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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: TVC15 on December 14, 2007, 11:07:53 PM

Title: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: TVC15 on December 14, 2007, 11:07:53 PM
Well, an additional owning, aside from the everpresent owning of his modern career:

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“They say that money changes you/but money don't change you/It just make you more of what you already are,” raps Phonte on “That Ain’t Love” off the new Little Brother CD Getback. If that’s the case then Kevin Spacey was Robin fucking Williams all along. It just took superstardom, money and fame to unleash his inner hack. In K-Pax he played the Robin Williams role of an impish man-sprite who may or not be from outer space. It’s easy to imagine Robin Williams in restrained character-actor mode playing Spacey’s role here. Here’s a list of Spacey’s post-American Beauty films: K-Pax, The Shipping News, Ordinary Decent Criminal, Pay It Forward, The United States of Leland, Edison Force, Beyond The Sea, The Life Of David Gale and Fred Claus. Superstardom sure fucked up a promising career. When your most impressive post-second-Oscar role is the bad guy in Bryan Singer’s ferociously adequate Superman Returns you might want to consider getting a new agent.

I stand by my original assessment:  he was never a good actor in the first place.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2007, 11:12:03 PM
What about when he threw dinner on the wall then jacked off in the shower...or was it the other way around
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 14, 2007, 11:12:14 PM
Cliff Clavinesque Trivia:

Chevy Chase was offered that role in American Beauty.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: TVC15 on December 14, 2007, 11:13:16 PM
No way!  No fucking way!
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 14, 2007, 11:19:56 PM
yes way

Seriously, I think he'd have done a better job, and I like Spacey okay
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: The Sceneman on December 14, 2007, 11:22:20 PM
fuck american beauty would have been 2 x better if Chevy Chase was in it, and no Mena Suvari and whoever the dumpy bitch was, Thora Birch I think her name was. Both ugly as sin
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: etiolate on December 15, 2007, 05:41:10 AM
I enjoyed The Shipping News. but the rest on that list is pretty bad
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: TVC15 on December 15, 2007, 05:44:50 AM
I enjoyed The Shipping News. but the rest on that list is pretty bad

I have to admit that I am not familiar with The Shipping News.

I want to like Kevin Spacey, I really do. He tries ever so hard.  His acting is just generally so stagey, and so obviously acting.  He's meant to be a theatre actor, not a movie actor where more realistic, method-y acting comes across better.  Spacey's acting stands out simply because it is a contrast to what we are generally useful.  For years I didn't know whether I liked it or I didn't, but one thing is clear, he's gotten kinda hammy post-American Beauty.  Or maybe even post-Usual Suspects.  Who knows.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Mandark on December 15, 2007, 06:40:09 AM
Spacey's style was perfect for the Jack Vincennes character in L.A. Confidential.

I do sort of want to watch Beyond the Sea.  I generally don't like biopics (same thing as my gangster movie aversion), but he seems like a good fit for the role.  He'd get to act old-time showbiz smarmy and stuff.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Gay Boy on December 15, 2007, 09:11:53 AM
Cliff Clavinesque Trivia:

Chevy Chase was offered that role in American Beauty.
Woah. That would have been awesome. Despite Chevy's horrible career in the 90's was damn good in the 80's.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Barry Egan on December 15, 2007, 09:57:47 AM
did Chevy Chase ever take on a dramatic role?  he kinda sucks imo.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Solo on December 15, 2007, 10:06:49 AM
Spacey has always sucked.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 15, 2007, 10:11:17 AM
did Chevy Chase ever take on a dramatic role?  he kinda sucks imo.

Not unless that one episode of Law & Order where he played the anti-semite counts.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Barry Egan on December 15, 2007, 10:20:17 AM
did Chevy Chase ever take on a dramatic role?  he kinda sucks imo.

Not unless that one episode of Law & Order where he played the anti-semite counts.

I found this on Youtube

[youtube=425,350]AwDJw2ObHdY[/youtube]

 :lol
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Gay Boy on December 15, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
Does it matter? Comedians can make the transition. Steve Martin is a good example. His role in Shopgirl where he played it completely serious and cold. And it was probably his best role in the last 15+ years.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: bud on December 15, 2007, 11:20:33 AM
steve martin, lol.

robin williams was amazing in good will hunting, but he keeps choosing these distinguished mentally-challenged roles in distinguished mentally-challenged comedy movies no one wants to watch. fuck you, robin.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Barry Egan on December 15, 2007, 11:21:09 AM
yea well, Steve Martin has a lot more talent than Chevy Chase.  Chevy Chase was a good physical comedian on SNL but was lacking in every other sense. 
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Gay Boy on December 15, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
Steve Martin can pull off solid acting if he wants to. It's just that he phones it in for ages now. Shopgirl showed he can fucking act if he didn't keep doing pink panther or whatever the hell he does.

Chase wasn't necceraly lacking post-SNL. The first few vacation movies are classics, as is caddyshack.

 It's just he never transitioned it past the 80's boom of SNL stars. Murrary to be honest is the only one who did. Belushi died and Akyrod and Chase's careers both died.


Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Barry Egan on December 15, 2007, 11:36:51 AM
well, Akroyd at least made fat bank off of Ghostbuster's, which was his baby.  Do you really think Chevy Chase is on the same level as those other three?
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 15, 2007, 02:12:24 PM
Swimming with Sharks is my textbook example of a great performance carrying a shite movie.  90's Kevin Spacey was not bad at all, 00's Kevin Spacey needs a better manager desperately.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Eric P on December 15, 2007, 02:26:59 PM
yea well, Steve Martin has a lot more talent than Chevy Chase.  Chevy Chase was a good physical comedian on SNL but was lacking in every other sense. 

i found him enjoyable in the fletch movies as well as national lampoon's vaction
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2007, 03:08:28 PM
well, Akroyd at least made fat bank off of Ghostbuster's, which was his baby.  Do you really think Chevy Chase is on the same level as those other three?
Vacation and Christmas Vacation are two of the greatest comedies ever made.  So yes.

Chevy suffers from some of the same problems as others.  He got desperate and chose horrible scripts.  He kept doing the vacation movies even though the scripts were crap.  He took anything that came at him.  :'(
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 15, 2007, 07:12:02 PM
Funny Farm is Chevy's finest moment, its an overlooked near-classic from the late 80's.  I can't be the only one here who loves this movie, right?
Its also the last film George Roy Hill (The Sting, Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid, Slap Shot) directed before he got fed up with Hollywood's BS and retired.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 15, 2007, 08:36:26 PM
Funny Farm is great.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 15, 2007, 08:38:21 PM
did Chevy Chase ever take on a dramatic role?  he kinda sucks imo.

Not unless that one episode of Law & Order where he played the anti-semite counts.

I found this on Youtube

[youtube=425,350]AwDJw2ObHdY[/youtube]

 :lol

That was after the whole Mel Gibson thing, right? :lol
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 15, 2007, 08:39:46 PM
 Martin's New Yorker bits were pretty hilarious
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Mandark on December 16, 2007, 03:37:52 AM
Martin's New Yorker bits were pretty hilarious

I've got the book of those, but I haven't read it in years.  If you liked that, get the old Woody Allen collections: Getting Even and Without Feathers.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: TVC15 on December 16, 2007, 03:50:07 AM
Funny Farm is Chevy's finest moment, its an overlooked near-classic from the late 80's.  I can't be the only one here who loves this movie, right?

That is a pretty great movie.  I haven't seen it in years.  I should hunt that down the next time I am in a comedy movie mood. 

Martin's New Yorker bits were pretty hilarious

I've got the book of those, but I haven't read it in years.  If you liked that, get the old Woody Allen collections: Getting Even and Without Feathers.

I like those Allen collections, but only in small doses.  If you read too much at once, his stuff starts to come off as hyper-wacky madlibs or something.  His physical comedy style is famous for being neurotic, somewhat intellectual, and refined, but often, in writing, his comedy is very different:  entropic, overt, and barely restrained.  Still generally intellectual, but Woody Allen the Comedian is a straight man compared to Woody Allen the Writer, who more resembles the slapsticky fat funny man.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: Mandark on December 16, 2007, 03:56:21 AM
For no reason, I'm getting a real kick out of your keyboard issues.
Title: Re: Kevin Spacey: Ownzored
Post by: TVC15 on December 16, 2007, 03:59:33 AM
For no reason, I'm getting a real kick out of your keyboard issues.

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