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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 09:50:13 PM

Title: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 09:50:13 PM: So, I finally broke down and got a DS Lite. Paranoid about the state of my replacement DS screen and hopped up on the knowledge that I'd be getting my 600$ security deposit back, I broke down and just got a new one. The Lite isn't a huge jump over the classic DS, but it looks less like a toy and, hence, I'm less embarassed to be rocking it in public.

Anyhow, I've had Etrian Odyssey sitting around for three weeks, waiting for that stupid screen to show up. I finally popped it in today and it's a dream. Anyone who insists it's too difficult is a total weakling. It's challenging- Not difficult for difficulty's sake, but difficult because it maintains interest. I'm a little paranoid about party layout, it seems like the kind of game where you could fuck it up early on and not find out until it's too late. I like how valuable cash is and the map system is bar none the best touch screen integration yet. Keeping a map is a pain in the ass on paper, even when it's a private joy. Using the touch screen to mimic that otherwise miserable experience is a great idea, to the point where to me it's a cartography sim with classic RPG elements tacked on.

I adore the idea that the kinds of things you sell back to the shop keeper effect the sorts of things she'll sell to you. This is perhaps the purest distillation of everything good and kind about portable gaming available.

Anyway, let's chat EO: I'm not even done mapping the first floor yet. I thought I completed the first "quest", but it doesn't seem to have registered. Maybe I missed a room. I like the way my characters "feel" like they're getting stronger. But here's my layout

Landsckencht-Survivalist
Bard-Healer-Alchemist

I'm thinking about booting the Bard for a first row Darkhunter. The bard is sort of slow and so her effects rarely hit the party on the first round, making it pointless to keep her around. I figure I could use a better tank. A healer seems like a must and the Alchemist is really useful. Any tips?
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 09:50:41 PM: Oh! And I fucking lovelovelove the Choose Your Adventure events that pop up. Holy fuck those are great.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2007, 09:51:28 PM: WANT
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 09:54:48 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 21, 2007, 09:51:28 PM
WANT

I got mine for 23.99 from Gamefly.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2007, 09:57:04 PM: tips: chuck your bard, put your survialist in the back row, and bring in a protector for font line defense, while your survivalist and alchemist hit from the back row. try and maximise your medics Immunise and salve skills 1st, Immunise will win you any boss fight almost

there are really good party structure/ class build tips on the gamefaqs board for this game, some very thorough stuff there.

and congrats on finally playing the GOTY
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2007, 09:57:41 PM: Quote from: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 09:54:48 PM
Quote from: Himuro on December 21, 2007, 09:51:28 PM
WANT

I got mine for 23.99 from Gamefly.

thats a fucking steal, I got mine for $35 US, I wouldve paid 70
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 10:01:31 PM: Quote from: Scenester on December 21, 2007, 09:57:04 PM
tips: chuck your bard, put your survialist in the back row, and bring in a protector for font line defense, while your survivalist and alchemist hit from the back row. try and maximise your medics Immunise and salve skills 1st, Immunise will win you any boss fight almost

there are really good party structure/ class build tips on the gamefaqs board for this game, some very thorough stuff there.

and congrats on finally playing the GOTY

Good idea. That Bard is fucking useless and there's something weird about having an 11 year old black girl in a skimpy bikini running around with manly men. Protector it is.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on December 21, 2007, 10:24:14 PM: troubadours are good, i switched out my survivalist for one of them on recommendation here and id say they are much more handy

I think my current party is (I only play this on long trips):

protector, landsknecht, ronin (unlockable class later on)
alchemist, medic

Originally I had a dark hunter but they are pretty useless imo until you get all the binds maxxed
survivalist has a handy speed up spell and some powerful bow attacks but I wanted to experiment with the ronin

I think you should have a protector, alchemist and medic in your party at all times
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 21, 2007, 10:27:40 PM: So it seems like Protector is a must?
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on December 21, 2007, 10:41:28 PM: yes, they can block damage, and absorb elemental attacks at higher levels

I *really* suggest you read a guide or something for the characters because you can fuck up pretty easily when choosing skills
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2007, 10:45:37 PM: the 'rest' option can save your ass if you fuck up your points tho ;)
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on December 21, 2007, 10:47:45 PM: thats true its not the end of the world, but you can save some time by reading up a little first
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: y2kev on December 21, 2007, 11:32:12 PM: Um, bards are fucking nuts. What are you talking about?

Your buff order should be immunize/relaxing/bravery. Period. I don't even know how you would do this game without a medic and troubador.

Protectors are the less useful class (can serve with two lands).
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM: Oh fuck. You get a little ways in, thinking "I'm starting to feel the groove" and it's still tough, but you're holding up. And then you hit the first FOE. And the game is like, "Nah, bitch, you ain't seen shit!" and you get totally fucking shut up.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Beezy on December 22, 2007, 01:06:40 AM: Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
Oh fuck. You get a little ways in, thinking "I'm starting to feel the groove" and it's still tough, but you're holding up. And then you hit the first FOE. And the game is like, "Nah, bitch, you ain't seen shit!" and you get totally fucking shut up.

Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
And then you hit the first FOE.

Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
FOE

Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
FOE

Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
FOE!!!

:drudge :drudge :drudge

[youtube=425,350]WM5MMqNgUzM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: FatalT on December 22, 2007, 02:19:45 AM: FOE's beat my ass but my alchemist takes them down. I'm only up to B3F
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: y2kev on December 22, 2007, 02:32:06 AM: The first two strata are pretty straight forward if you have an alchemist with poison. After that you have to respec though.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: tiesto on December 22, 2007, 02:42:18 AM: I'm not using a Troubadour at all... shit. Currently on floor 5. I have a Landschnect (concentrating on Axes), Survivalist (going for 2-hit and the speed up spells), Protector (raising shields for now), Medic (just got the Revive spell, gonna try for Immunize now), and Alchemist (have a few Fire spells, and just started working on getting some Poison levels up). Good plan for now, or did I fuck up?
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on December 22, 2007, 02:52:35 AM: my survivalist is level 37 so im guessing I switched him out for a troub in the late 20s/early thirties dunno

the rest of my party is in mid 50s though
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: y2kev on December 22, 2007, 03:06:06 AM: Quote from: tiesto on December 22, 2007, 02:42:18 AM
I'm not using a Troubadour at all... shit. Currently on floor 5. I have a Landschnect (concentrating on Axes), Survivalist (going for 2-hit and the speed up spells), Protector (raising shields for now), Medic (just got the Revive spell, gonna try for Immunize now), and Alchemist (have a few Fire spells, and just started working on getting some Poison levels up). Good plan for now, or did I fuck up?

Axes (I've heard from good sources) are a trap. The Japanese name for the class is Swordsman. The game was meant to be played with a sword. Go for Defender with the Protector and poison is critical early with the Alchemist. Also max immunize in the future.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2007, 06:42:53 AM: Quote from: tiesto on December 22, 2007, 02:42:18 AM
I'm not using a Troubadour at all... shit. Currently on floor 5. I have a Landschnect (concentrating on Axes), Survivalist (going for 2-hit and the speed up spells), Protector (raising shields for now), Medic (just got the Revive spell, gonna try for Immunize now), and Alchemist (have a few Fire spells, and just started working on getting some Poison levels up). Good plan for now, or did I fuck up?

dont think you fucked up, that was my party (my Landswhatsit focused on axes too, it aint a trap, dont listen to what Kev said) The party served me good up until the postgame, then I just tweaked my party a little, viola
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 11:24:01 AM: Quote from: Scenester on December 22, 2007, 06:42:53 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 22, 2007, 02:42:18 AM
I'm not using a Troubadour at all... shit. Currently on floor 5. I have a Landschnect (concentrating on Axes), Survivalist (going for 2-hit and the speed up spells), Protector (raising shields for now), Medic (just got the Revive spell, gonna try for Immunize now), and Alchemist (have a few Fire spells, and just started working on getting some Poison levels up). Good plan for now, or did I fuck up?

dont think you fucked up, that was my party (my Landswhatsit focused on axes too, it aint a trap, dont listen to what Kev said) The party served me good up until the postgame, then I just tweaked my party a little, viola

How do you get to Revive and Immunize? I've got Heal at 4 and I have Cure 2, but it's useless. 2 regular Cures=8tp and 60 hp. Or 1 Cure II=10tp and 50hp. Bleh. I'm sure it'll come in handy later.

Anyway, any suggestions for Alchemist builds? I'm sort of angry I sunk pts into Fire. Volt seems to outclass it everywhere, especially on the FOE FOE FOE Ragelopes. I just got Poison, but I can't understand quite where to use it when Volt seems to have so much punch.

Also: Suggestions for Protector? I'm mostly jacking Defense and Shield so far. Back Guard is great for those FOE Ragelopes. Just use Cleaver/Back Guard on the front row. Trueshot in the back, have a Medic on Defense if she doesn't need to heal and have the Alchemist spam VOLT. It's mostly dumb luck that someone useful doesn't get fucked with Scream, but. It's worked so far.

As for Axe- I hear it's good to sink about 3-5pts into Axes just because they have a higher natural attack power. Good for bosses and FOE FOE FOE encounters. Is there a skill tree anywhere I can look at?

I finally got high enough to take on some FOE encounters, but that little video above is right on point. It seems like every time I turn a corner into some unexplored corner of the map OH FUCK RAGELOPE FUCK OH GOD. Anyway, good stuff so far. I wish some things weren't so expensive and that it was a little easier to make $$$. Especially with Inn stays getting more expensive.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Beezy on December 22, 2007, 11:54:09 AM: I really need to start playing this game again...
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2007, 04:18:40 PM: Quote from: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 11:24:01 AM
Quote from: Scenester on December 22, 2007, 06:42:53 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 22, 2007, 02:42:18 AM
I'm not using a Troubadour at all... shit. Currently on floor 5. I have a Landschnect (concentrating on Axes), Survivalist (going for 2-hit and the speed up spells), Protector (raising shields for now), Medic (just got the Revive spell, gonna try for Immunize now), and Alchemist (have a few Fire spells, and just started working on getting some Poison levels up). Good plan for now, or did I fuck up?

dont think you fucked up, that was my party (my Landswhatsit focused on axes too, it aint a trap, dont listen to what Kev said) The party served me good up until the postgame, then I just tweaked my party a little, viola

How do you get to Revive and Immunize? I've got Heal at 4 and I have Cure 2, but it's useless. 2 regular Cures=8tp and 60 hp. Or 1 Cure II=10tp and 50hp. Bleh. I'm sure it'll come in handy later.

Anyway, any suggestions for Alchemist builds? I'm sort of angry I sunk pts into Fire. Volt seems to outclass it everywhere, especially on the FOE FOE FOE Ragelopes. I just got Poison, but I can't understand quite where to use it when Volt seems to have so much punch.

Also: Suggestions for Protector? I'm mostly jacking Defense and Shield so far. Back Guard is great for those FOE Ragelopes. Just use Cleaver/Back Guard on the front row. Trueshot in the back, have a Medic on Defense if she doesn't need to heal and have the Alchemist spam VOLT. It's mostly dumb luck that someone useful doesn't get fucked with Scream, but. It's worked so far.

As for Axe- I hear it's good to sink about 3-5pts into Axes just because they have a higher natural attack power. Good for bosses and FOE FOE FOE encounters. Is there a skill tree anywhere I can look at?

I finally got high enough to take on some FOE encounters, but that little video above is right on point. It seems like every time I turn a corner into some unexplored corner of the map OH FUCK RAGELOPE FUCK OH GOD. Anyway, good stuff so far. I wish some things weren't so expensive and that it was a little easier to make $$$. Especially with Inn stays getting more expensive.

okay, to see what the prerequisite is for a certain skill, simply 'try' to add skillpoints to an unavailable skill.... the game will then prompt you with what skills need to at what level for the skill to unlock
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2007, 04:19:42 PM: Quote from: Beezy on December 22, 2007, 11:54:09 AM
I really need to start playing this game again...

yeah I sohuld get back into it too.... Im up to B28F... kinda stopped playing
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 22, 2007, 09:53:18 PM: I like how B3F is all about running the fuck away from FoEs who are going to kick the shit out of you.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 23, 2007, 03:29:04 AM: Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on December 22, 2007, 06:56:33 PM
Quote from: Scenester on December 22, 2007, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: Beezy on December 22, 2007, 11:54:09 AM
I really need to start playing this game again...

yeah I sohuld get back into it too.... Im up to B28F... kinda stopped playing

Now that I quit WoW it might be a good idea to dig deep into the final stratum again. I just hope the sequel comes here.

Im fairly sure it'll get translated, Atlus created salivating demand for the 1st game (or so Ive assessed) and It wouldve taken them a week tops to translate it...

worst case scenario we can import the Japanese game, will still be awesome, Mother 3 was still the greatest handeheld emotional journey of all time
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 23, 2007, 03:30:13 PM: Etrian Odyssey giveth, Etrian Odyssey taketh away. I mapped the WHOLE 3rd floor. Everyone put on 2 levels, I had a ton of shit to sell. Before I wired out, I saw one last room to check. I went in, got a treasure and came out.

PROTIP: You cannot "Escape" if you have a wall behind you. WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME? 40 minutes of awesomely productive work DOWN THE DRAIN. FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING MANTIS ASS FUCK FACE
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: y2kev on December 23, 2007, 03:49:15 PM: Quote from: GilloD on December 23, 2007, 03:30:13 PM
Etrian Odyssey giveth, Etrian Odyssey taketh away. I mapped the WHOLE 3rd floor. Everyone put on 2 levels, I had a ton of shit to sell. Before I wired out, I saw one last room to check. I went in, got a treasure and came out.

PROTIP: You cannot "Escape" if you have a wall behind you. WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME? 40 minutes of awesomely productive work DOWN THE DRAIN. FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING MANTIS ASS FUCK FACE
You can save map data even if you die.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 23, 2007, 05:33:07 PM: yeah the last stratum is ridiculous, Im probably going to go back to EO soon as I finished the other handheld rpgs I was playing (Luminous Arc and Mother 3)
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 25, 2007, 07:29:32 PM: started playing this again during the lowpoints on xmas day.... kinda forgot how awesome the game really is :O

Actually making some decent progress into the 6th stratum, got a pimped out party that can handle the baddies and still keep going thanks to tp regeneration (relaxing :bow)

So I might hopefully get around to finishing the game proper
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 25, 2007, 09:37:27 PM: Just got to the floor with the wolves. I FREAKED OUT when there were like 12 FOEs on the map. But they're not so bad an the XP is good, especially with the insta-heal on the floor before. I may hang around and grind for a bit. The Protector is great, he takes the guesswork out of who to heal. For instance:

Turn order is Wolf->Party, with Healer probably 3rd or 4th in Party order. So if someone gets nailed in the first round, I won't have a chance to heal them until they get nailed for a 2nd time. Using the Protector's FGuard, I always know to heal the Protector. I like those little stratgies the game allows.

I can't imagine playing without an Alchemist. I'm pumping Volt at the moment. I've never got a Poison to stick, so I stopped using it altogether and Fire has never seemed as useful. So I'll probably push Volt until Thor and then just pump TP and maybe a 2nd rank Fire spell.

My Medic is pushing towards Immunize even though it's not quite useful yet. After that I'll push TP Up. Salve isn't so usful yet. Patch Up could be helpful, but it seems like you'd need a lot of points to make it useful.

Protector is pretty useful. Not sure where to push his skills yet. The enemy encounter reduction skill is useful for schlepping down floors pre-teleport. Parry is great for a front line jerk off. But the rest of his skills are really specific.

Landskencht is all purpose. I'm pushing Axes at the moment even though I don't own one. I want 2-Hit. And it may help to have 5 pts in Axes just because they have higher natural attack and may eb useful for bosses. Not sure how a Ronin will fit in.

Survivalist I'm really "Eh" about. His damage is okay and Multi Hit is alright, but it takes too much TP to be frequently useful. I'm been thinking about swapping it out for a Troubador again, since I hear they'r good with Bows and generally more useful.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 27, 2007, 12:04:01 AM: Axe Landscknecjkt ftw, glad you seem to enjoying the game GilloD

and ETRIAN ODYSSEY IS BACK ON MY PLAYLIST, and Im sooooo happy about it :-[ Im making some real progress in the 6th Stratum finally, my party can piss all over any FOE no sweat. Im so pleased with my party, had to draft in a bard for tp regeneration level 10 relaxing omg :bow, so yeah... your dudes can last forever if you can regenerate tp! You can can use all your buffs every fight!
So I should hopefully have finshed the game proper soon... yay. Okay Ive maxed out the bard's Relaxing and Bravery... what other skills are worth going for?

Cant wait for the freaking sequel
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on December 27, 2007, 12:32:24 AM: my alchemist started with fire, it seemed handy at the time

my landsknecht uses axes as well, they are just more powerful then swords multi hit or not.
I do have most of the sword skills however, as I used them first
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on December 27, 2007, 11:40:32 AM: Quote from: Scenester on December 27, 2007, 12:04:01 AM
Axe Landscknecjkt ftw, glad you seem to enjoying the game GilloD

and ETRIAN ODYSSEY IS BACK ON MY PLAYLIST, and Im sooooo happy about it :-[ Im making some real progress in the 6th Stratum finally, my party can piss all over any FOE no sweat. Im so pleased with my party, had to draft in a bard for tp regeneration level 10 relaxing omg :bow, so yeah... your dudes can last forever if you can regenerate tp! You can can use all your buffs every fight!
So I should hopefully have finshed the game proper soon... yay. Okay Ive maxed out the bard's Relaxing and Bravery... what other skills are worth going for?

Cant wait for the freaking sequel

Should I swap in a Troubador for the Survivalist, then?
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 27, 2007, 04:01:28 PM: Quote from: GilloD on December 27, 2007, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: Scenester on December 27, 2007, 12:04:01 AM
Axe Landscknecjkt ftw, glad you seem to enjoying the game GilloD

and ETRIAN ODYSSEY IS BACK ON MY PLAYLIST, and Im sooooo happy about it :-[ Im making some real progress in the 6th Stratum finally, my party can piss all over any FOE no sweat. Im so pleased with my party, had to draft in a bard for tp regeneration level 10 relaxing omg :bow, so yeah... your dudes can last forever if you can regenerate tp! You can can use all your buffs every fight!
So I should hopefully have finshed the game proper soon... yay. Okay Ive maxed out the bard's Relaxing and Bravery... what other skills are worth going for?

Cant wait for the freaking sequel

Should I swap in a Troubador for the Survivalist, then?

hmm, Im honestly not sure, I used a Survivalist for the 1st 25 floors and he did me fine, speedy attacks came in handy and boosted appolons were wonderful against FOEs and bosses.... however troub is essential for the postgame I believe.... I would say stick with a survivalist but experimentation couldnt hurt! Late in the game you train dudes up super quick anyways (my troub went from lvl1 - 40 in a couple of hours)
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on December 27, 2007, 09:49:39 PM: bout halfway through b27-28 now (they are pretty much combined into one super floor) taking forever due to all the freaking pot-holes and backtracking aarrrgh

oh well Im getting there. Hopefully my posse can defecate on the last boss when I find his poof ass
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: GilloD on January 26, 2008, 08:09:00 AM: I just made it to the 2nd Stratum and I am, as always, astounded at the game's willingness to punish. It's like 40 times harder than floor 5 and it's difficult to make a trip economically sensible once I pay for sleeping and healing. But it does give me more to do with my party and that's nice. I really like this game.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: tiesto on January 26, 2008, 01:30:06 PM: Quote from: GilloD on January 26, 2008, 08:09:00 AM
I just made it to the 2nd Stratum and I am, as always, astounded at the game's willingness to punish. It's like 40 times harder than floor 5 and it's difficult to make a trip economically sensible once I pay for sleeping and healing. But it does give me more to do with my party and that's nice. I really like this game.

Yeah, I just hit the 8th floor, after doing this annoying mission:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
survive in the 8th floor for 5 days straight
[close]
Took me a trip from Penn to Ronkonkoma and then some, to finish... almost 2 hours in total. But I hear the difficulty kind of plateaus after the 2nd stratum.
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on January 26, 2008, 04:34:12 PM: you think the games hard now? wait until you get to the fucking 6th stratum :( I still havent completed it
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: Vizzys on January 26, 2008, 05:07:54 PM: Im still on the level where you have to kill like 10 FOEs before fighting the boss otherwise it respawns
Title: Re: Holy Jeezum- Etrian Odyssey GOTY
Post by: The Sceneman on January 26, 2008, 05:08:54 PM: that was a bitch, that level