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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: drohne on January 03, 2008, 09:37:28 AM

Title: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: drohne on January 03, 2008, 09:37:28 AM
(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/laytone.jpg)

it's like having the back of a box of sugary cereal on your nintendo ds! only $29.99! yes, it's all the puzzles you remember from 'fun' moments of elementary school, only they've been dumbed down a little, because school was a gradually unfolding revelation of your mental inferiority, and nintendo ds is about feeling GOOD. it comes with j-gaf's highest recommendations -- and hey, if you'll play phoenix wright, your dumb ass will probably play anything!
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 03, 2008, 10:13:32 AM
I still can't believe I bought and played Phoenix Wright due to GAF. :-\
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 03, 2008, 10:28:20 AM
guh the stupid river puzzle.  I hate that one.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: y2kev on January 03, 2008, 10:52:15 AM
i hate phoenix shit
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Beezy on January 03, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
Phoenix Wright haters can choke on a dick.

Anyway, this is the next big DS game:

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/Ausentao/awdor.jpg)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 11:21:38 AM
uh wow i think that single screenshot got completely disinterested with layton. thanks, drohne!
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 03, 2008, 12:22:55 PM
yuck plus
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 03, 2008, 12:36:28 PM
at last, Sam Loyd's Cyclopedia has been given bad Euro artwork

fortunately I've been playing Bioware games so I'm ready for anything!!
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 03, 2008, 01:10:30 PM
I actually am looking forward to P. Layton.  I love puzzle games and this will be one, one with super-high production values and a shitload of nifty puzzles.
Yes please.  If it helps, consider it the anti-Hotel Dusk.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 01:25:44 PM
how is it the anti-hotel dusk

i am anti-hotel dusk and will support anything that is anti-hotel dusk
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 03, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
god, hotel fucking dust
worst game purchase of 2007
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on January 03, 2008, 01:28:55 PM
buy a flashcart
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 03, 2008, 01:31:46 PM
That's what Layton is?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 03, 2008, 01:33:51 PM
Hotel Dusk = Nada Puzzles, Too Much Text
Professor Layton = Puzzles Aplenty, Less Obtrusive Story
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on January 03, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
i hope they get harder than "circle the village"
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 01:50:28 PM
Hotel Dusk = Nada Puzzles, Too Much Text
Professor Layton = Puzzles Aplenty, Less Obtrusive Story

the bad thing about hotel dusk is that there was so much text but the STORY WAS SHIT

i can't believe the gaffers defending that game. someone said that hotel dusk's story is on par with THE AVERAGE BOOK
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 03, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
I'm thinking that Mazes of Fate DS remake will be the hot shit for 2008.

I also predict that the usual butthurt nerds will continue to have a chaffed ass over every move Ninty makes. What's up, Evilbore?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 01:59:01 PM
what the fuck is corny TALKING about? This thread has nothing to do with Nintendo hate. GOD
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 03, 2008, 02:02:06 PM
what the fuck is corny TALKING about? This thread has nothing to do with Nintendo hate. GOD

Do you have any sort of reading comprehension whatsoever, Habib?

it's like having the back of a box of sugary cereal on your nintendo ds! only $29.99! yes, it's all the puzzles you remember from 'fun' moments of elementary school, only they've been dumbed down a little, because school was a gradually unfolding revelation of your mental inferiority, and nintendo ds is about feeling GOOD. it comes with j-gaf's highest recommendations -- and hey, if you'll play phoenix wright, your dumb ass will probably play anything!

That sounds like a pro-Nintendo statement if I've ever read one.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: drohne on January 03, 2008, 02:48:16 PM
actually corny, that's more of an anti you statement than an anti nintendo statement. 'you' plural, indicating ds fans generally, lest you take this as an invitation au e-beouf. ok, that was kind of an anti 'you' singular statement

i can't even blame gaf for my purchase of hotel dusk -- the thing is that i liked trace memory. at least for its first enjoyably puzzly two-thirds. at the end it turns into hotel dusk. IT WAS A WARNING, AND I HEEDED IT NOT
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 03, 2008, 03:20:01 PM
actually corny, that's more of an anti you statement than an anti nintendo statement. 'you' plural, indicating ds fans generally, lest you take this as an invitation au e-beouf. ok, that was kind of an anti 'you' singular statement


Ah, at least your insults are somewhat clever.

I still say that all the anti-nintendo statements and sentiments make certain individuals look rather insecure.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
don't just blame gaf for hotel dusk. the game got ridiculously high reviews as well. EGM said it was the best ds adventure game. Holy fuck.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 03, 2008, 03:42:33 PM
The last game I bought on GAF's recommendation was Hotel Dusk.

Well, now I don't feel so bad.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 03, 2008, 03:50:20 PM
yeah, someone at EGM gave it a TEN

out of TEN
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: y2kev on January 03, 2008, 03:54:16 PM
yeah, someone at EGM gave it a TEN

out of TEN

yet another reason why michael donahoe is a MORAN
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 03, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
Isn't your avatar from Hotel Dusk?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: y2kev on January 03, 2008, 04:04:43 PM
Isn't your avatar from Hotel Dusk?
well the art is good

...shut up
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Rman on January 03, 2008, 04:06:35 PM
yeah, someone at EGM gave it a TEN

out of TEN



Whaaaat? Seriously?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 03, 2008, 04:08:18 PM
Isn't your avatar from Hotel Dusk?
well the art is good

...shut up

lol owned
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: y2kev on January 03, 2008, 04:09:36 PM
Isn't your avatar from Hotel Dusk?
well the art is good

...shut up

lol owned

for real :(
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: tiesto on January 03, 2008, 04:28:12 PM
I kind of expected Layton to have slightly more clever puzzles than the old get the animals across the river... but if that's the level of the game, then I don't think I'm nearly as interested, even if I'm somewhat of a Level-5 fan.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 03, 2008, 04:30:31 PM
I am watching Die Hard With a Vengeance in anticipation of this awesome game!!
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 05:18:02 PM
yeah, someone at EGM gave it a TEN

out of TEN

yeah uh i was thinking with a score like that it must had been at least a really good game

IT WAS BARELY AVERAGE

WTF
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2008, 05:24:35 PM
Phoenix Wright haters can choke on a dick.

Anyway, this is the next big DS game:

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/Ausentao/awdor.jpg)

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Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: bluemax on January 03, 2008, 05:38:01 PM
I kinda like PW although I'm afraid its gonna get stale somewhere in the middle of the second game.

Those puzzles though, they remind me of the stupid logic questions you get asked in job interviews. Is the egg drop question going to be on there?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Yeti on January 03, 2008, 07:57:46 PM
I loved Phoenix Wright, all 3 of them. The gameplay was kind of linear, what there was of it, but I love my courtroom dramas like law and order, and I thought the characters all had enough likable personality to make it through.

It probably would have better been suited to a tv show, or comic book or something, but I don't know if I would have enjoyed it as much then.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2008, 09:35:32 PM
i love PW
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Beezy on January 04, 2008, 10:24:11 AM
I just started the final case of PW3 last night. I already consider it to be the best of the 3. :D

Edit: PW1 had the best music though.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 04, 2008, 06:20:21 PM
I read this thread this morning, Hotel Dusk hate and all, and what do I do?  I go out and buy Trace Memory, a game that's easily 10 times worse than Hotel Dusk.  Don't know why I got it exactly.  I certainly wasn't looking for it.  It was just sitting there in the used bin for 7 bucks.   I played it for about 15 minutes before getting totally bored with it all.

Bah.  Time to try out Phantom Hourglass.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Yeti on January 04, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
I thought Hotel Dusk was supposed to be good? What happened?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 04, 2008, 11:28:30 PM
Hotel Dusk sounds more interesting in concept and on the forums than it is in practice.  Playing the game will literally put you to sleep.  Boring as hell.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Yeti on January 05, 2008, 12:11:58 AM
bummer total.

How is Phantom Hourglass then?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 05, 2008, 01:22:03 AM
I'm not too far into it but so far it feels VERY simple.  Maybe too much so.  I've been pretty much out of the loop when it came to Phantom Hourglass so I knew next to nothing about it before going in so I was a little surprised to find that all the controls were done with the stylis.  Because of that and the way the world is designed, if feels incredibly casual and not really like a normal Zelda game at all....which, in a way, is a good thing 'cause after Twilight Princess I think I got my fill of the normal Zelda templet for the next 15 years.  No desire to go back there.

Phantom Hourglass is like a Zelda game for your mother.  That's probably the best way to describe it so far.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Vizzys on January 05, 2008, 01:27:25 AM
phoenix wright is a good series

DONT HATE

i can understand the hotel dusk hate tho
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2008, 02:04:25 AM
pw haters die
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 09, 2008, 08:05:37 PM
DS #2002 - Professor Layton and the Curious Village (USA)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 09, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
This game is so cute and gay. I've solved two puzzles.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 09, 2008, 09:03:37 PM
I hope I can find this ROM before my big flight tomorrow
I love rearranging matchsticks
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: cognititivemonster on February 09, 2008, 10:06:59 PM
People keep telling me to play these adventure games on the DS but I can't get into them.

Phoenix Wright - boring
Hotel Dusk - Boring
Professor Layton (had the chance to play the Japanese version with someone translating) - BORING (pick right hate?  WTF.)

I mean, if I was 29 and still living with my mother, I might find this kind of fiction interesting - but I don't live with my mother (go jobs) and this fiction seems to be aimed at a 10-12 yr old.

Give me something with a strong sense of humor (and I know some might argue with me that PW does have that... but it doesn't) or something that actually tries to appeal to someone in their late teens - at the least. 

Fuck, just give Full Throttle on the DS.  Is that so much to ask?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 09, 2008, 10:13:54 PM
This hat puzzle is weird. I don't really understand the question.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 09, 2008, 10:15:14 PM
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Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on February 09, 2008, 11:08:15 PM
People keep telling me to play these adventure games on the DS but I can't get into them.

Phoenix Wright - boring
Hotel Dusk - Boring
Professor Layton (had the chance to play the Japanese version with someone translating) - BORING (pick right hate?  WTF.)

I mean, if I was 29 and still living with my mother, I might find this kind of fiction interesting - but I don't live with my mother (go jobs) and this fiction seems to be aimed at a 10-12 yr old.

Give me something with a strong sense of humor (and I know some might argue with me that PW does have that... but it doesn't) or something that actually tries to appeal to someone in their late teens - at the least. 

Fuck, just give Full Throttle on the DS.  Is that so much to ask?

I will admit PW isn't that funny. However, it's still fun to me because of the cases. It's not that great of an adventure game.

I'd honestly take Sam and Max or Grim Fandango but it'd never happen.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 09, 2008, 11:11:16 PM
There's a downloadable puzzle on Wi-Fi already. Guess what? It's the classic "make 5 squares into 4" matchbook puzzle :lol
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Eric P on February 09, 2008, 11:11:27 PM
i couldnt' find a single game worth keeping in a year and half of DS ownership

none of the games really appeal to me.

Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 10, 2008, 01:58:01 AM
Quote
I mean, if I was 29 and still living with my mother, I might find this kind of fiction interesting - but I don't live with my mother (go jobs)

I've had jobs.  They suck.  Living with your mother and reading cutting edge research papers all day >>>>> living by yourself and writing boring code to interface with old broken technology all day
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: cognititivemonster on February 10, 2008, 05:59:02 PM
Working with broken tech all day is boring....

Implementing what you've gathered from the research papers is far better than reading them  ;)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2008, 06:11:52 PM
i couldnt' find a single game worth keeping in a year and half of DS ownership

none of the games really appeal to me.



i'm in the same bag. 90% of all the ds games i've played were meh
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 10, 2008, 06:13:02 PM
This game is one big puzzle book. You can get the same enjoyment from a $3 magazine - the puzzles are probably harder too. Whatever, I'll play through it on a flight or trip. Once you beat it, that's it. The downloadable puzzles are one-time things that dont affect anything in the main game.

The hints they give you (cost 1 coin each) suck fucking ass too.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2008, 06:15:14 PM
i was completely disinterested with layton with the screenshot that was posted in the op. glad to hear it sucks.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2008, 06:16:48 PM
OMG, it's back in print

http://www.amazon.com/Cyclopedia-Puzzles-tricks-Conundrums-Answers/dp/0923891781/

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512biEp0fnL._SS500_.jpg)

$5 more than Layton, for 50 times the puzzles, plus added racism

Sam Loyd wins again
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 10, 2008, 06:18:13 PM
They make you -find- puzzles as a bonus, as if I have an incentive to solve the ones that are mandatory as it is.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: The Sceneman on February 10, 2008, 11:32:27 PM
sound like Layton suxxors, good thing Ace Attourney 4 comes out this month ;)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2008, 03:55:46 PM
(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080213.jpg)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 13, 2008, 03:56:48 PM
Pretty much, yeah, lol. His puzzle wasn't matchbook related though.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2008, 04:56:41 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: bork on February 14, 2008, 01:57:18 AM
So I pretty much ignored this game until now.  And I click on this thread to find that Layton is a puzzle game, and not a graphic adventure?  YUCK.  Thanks for saving me $30+ guys.   :-*  Apollo Justice comes out next week anyway.

Also you guys are saying that GAF is all over this game?  I remember a few J-Gaffers blowing their wads last year.  Hard to believe it was over a bunch of mini-puzzle games taken from kids' books and cereal boxes.  I too bought into the Hotel Dusk hype and don't want to repeat that mistake.  Hotel Dusk was like Phoenix Wright without the fun.

(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080213.jpg)

 :rofl
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 14, 2008, 11:44:04 AM
professor layton just made me do the 8-queens puzzle

WITH THREE QUEENS ALREADY PLACED

what the fuck

I totally googled the answer, I figure if they are getting their bullshit puzzles off the Internet, I can get my answers there, too.

towers of hanoi and 8-queens are the last refuge of puzzling scoundrels
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 14, 2008, 11:45:56 AM
also I discovered the French book version of Professor Layton

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DGD0YBXGL._SS500_.jpg)

it asked me to cut a tarte in 8 pieces with 3 slices. I guess that's localization.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 14, 2008, 01:47:22 PM

it asked me to cut a tarte in 8 pieces with 3 slices. I guess that's localization.

th' fuck? you can't do more than seven if the tart is circular.

f(n) = n + f(n-1)

where n is number of line cuts
f(0) = 1
f(1) = 1 + 1 = 2
f(2) = 2 + 2 = 4
f(3) = 3 + 4 = 7

FRENCHIE MATH LIES

unless the cuts are curved, and we all know there's nothing straight about the french
   
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 26, 2008, 04:39:38 AM
So I took advantage of Gamestop's 20% + trade in offer on Layton and I'm about five hours in.  I really dig it, the art is great, the music is robo-great, the localization has a unforced charm that's really endearing.  I'm having a great time with it.

I also got a big kick out of finally solving Die Hard 3's water puzzle.  I never got it until the onus was put on me.

It really, really is much more of a puzzle game then a graphic adventure.  Yes, there's a story, and characters you interact with, but its all a blatant delivery system for more puzzles.  Hell, the game doesn't even have any shame about its puzzle pushing. 
Quote from: actual in game dialog, pretty much
"Oh hey, its you Layton, I gots a puzzle for ya."
Its a DS game that I'm not embarrassed to play in public, which along with Contra 4, brings my shame-free DS catalog up to an astounding two titles.  I like it a lot, but most of you people aren't me.  I recommend it only to people who figured out that riddle in Labyrinth way before Jennifer Conally did.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 26, 2008, 01:07:12 PM

it asked me to cut a tarte in 8 pieces with 3 slices. I guess that's localization.

th' fuck? you can't do more than seven if the tart is circular.


why are you such an r-tard

cut the cake into quarters

then cut the cake HORIZONTALLY through the middle

two stacks of four pieces

smh

(http://dspace.mit.edu/html/1721.1/35896/18-S34Fall-2002/NR/rdonlyres/Mathematics/18-S34Problem-Solving-SeminarFall2002/ECF15EA9-B540-44F9-9B50-F8FA5299D313/0/cheeseProj.jpg)(http://dspace.mit.edu/html/1721.1/35896/18-S34Fall-2002/NR/rdonlyres/Mathematics/18-S34Problem-Solving-SeminarFall2002/ECF15EA9-B540-44F9-9B50-F8FA5299D313/0/cheeseProj.jpg)(http://dspace.mit.edu/html/1721.1/35896/18-S34Fall-2002/NR/rdonlyres/Mathematics/18-S34Problem-Solving-SeminarFall2002/ECF15EA9-B540-44F9-9B50-F8FA5299D313/0/cheeseProj.jpg)
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 26, 2008, 01:12:29 PM
prole stumped by a nintendo game... epic ownage
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 26, 2008, 01:16:19 PM
only in france do they cut a cake horizontally

smh at nintendo's cultural insensitivity
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Rman on February 26, 2008, 01:19:19 PM
Wow, prole, you're playing this?  I'm surprised.

Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Beezy on February 26, 2008, 04:04:28 PM
prole stumped by a nintendo game... epic ownage
Isn't this by Level 5?
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Rman on February 26, 2008, 05:09:28 PM
Published by Nintendo.  Developed by Level 5.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 26, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
Miyamoto does it again with Professor Layton and the Mysterious Township!
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: pilonv1 on February 26, 2008, 07:51:54 PM
Despite being burnt out with Phoenix Wright by case 5 of the first game, stupidly buying the second game thinking I'd play it and almost buying into the Hotel Dusk hype train before playing 5 minutes and coming to my senses, I have a strange desire to play this. Someone talk me out of it.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: demi on February 26, 2008, 07:55:56 PM
It's gay. Go buy a puzzle book.
Title: Re: the next big ds game: professor layton
Post by: Oblivion on February 26, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
Published by Nintendo.  Developed by Level 5.

Co-published by Nintendo, I believe.