THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: hyp on January 16, 2008, 06:43:05 PM
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http://www.destructoid.com/goichi-suda-third-party-wii-games-aren-t-cutting-it-65104.phtml
Goichi Suda, the game developer behind GameCube indie offering Killer 7 and the upcoming Wii title No More Heroes, recently commented on the state of the Wii and the games coming out for it, saying that third-party games weren't doing well. Suda was quoted as saying:
“I am very surprised about the reality about Wii, because before I was making this game, I wasn't expecting that Wii would be a console targeted only for non-gamers. I expected more games for hardcore gamers. The reality is different to what I expected."
Suda is not the only major developer to voice such an opinion. It is commonly believed by many people that the biggest benefits of the Wii all go directly to Nintendo. As Nintendo do make good games, some people may not be phased by this, but for gamers who look forward to the offerings of third party publishers, it sounds a death knell for the future of third party contribution.
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Poor guy
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Didn't Killer 7 sell like 5000 copies worldwide on the PS2? He ought to be used to it by now.
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stop making jappy looking niche games if you want sales.
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^^ serious. shit like this will make you the BIG monies:
(http://img.hexus.net/v2/gaming/screenshots_wii/carnival/carnival12.jpg)
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on the wii? yes it will.
he has only himself to blame, or maybe he wants to blame god.
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IN all honesty do you really think he could forsee this being the case a year or so ago when he started work on it?
I STILL can't get over the fact that Galaxy kind of tanked in Japan. Zelda too, it's kind of gross.
on the wii? yes it will.
he has only himself to blame.
BS.
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At least Galaxy is close to 1 million now.
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doesn't do much to help the 3rd party situation though.
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that's what you get for making games on the Wii.
and Suda games were always like this, shit sales regardless of the quality.
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the thing about NMH is that it is hardly niche at all, compared to something like K7.
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gameplay wise, maybe not as much as K7. but style wise, i don't expect parents and casuals to be flocking to it.
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The story is FUCK EVERYONE I'M GOING TO BE THE BEST ASSASSIN AND MAKE IT TO THE TOP. How does that not appeal to casuals? It's nothing but fucking balls against the wall action.
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All his games bomb, and for good justice. Nothing new you wanna-be Tarantino ass nicca
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I'm going to do my part and buy from WalMart, don't support NPD on this stuff
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that's what you get for making games on the Wii.
and Suda games were always like this, shit sales regardless of the quality.
Pretty much. Even K7 on PS2 did horrible (even worse than the GC version).
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it still find it unbelievable how many Wii's get sold and how games sell like shit on it
:piss Non gamers
edit: just read PD's post, you couldnt be more wrong, Suda shits all over Tarantino in terms of creativity
Tarantino makes fun movies, but its all his later shit is just copy and paste mish mashes of 50 other movies. Suda's works are truly original texts
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I'm going to do my part and buy from WalMart, don't support NPD on this stuff
:lol fuckin' demi man.
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Who keeps funding his games?
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All his games bomb, and for good justice. Nothing new you wanna-be Tarantino ass nicca
omg pd :bow
Loller7 is awful. but i do wanna try NMH...looks a bit more gamey and less shitty.
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Killer 7 WAS fuck awesome.
I hope this does well. I am looking forward to it.
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Publisher: Ubisoft
huh, if only they can market it like Red Steel :yuck
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Killer7 was fuck awesome. 8)
yeah, when I finally got around to playing it, I wanted to punch all the haters in the face for keeping me away from it for so long :maf
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It will do terrible. :'(
Terrible in the market or terrible on my TV?
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All his games bomb, and for good justice. Nothing new you wanna-be Tarantino ass nicca
omg pd :bow
Loller7 is awful. but i do wanna try NMH...looks a bit more gamey and less shitty.
you astound me
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You call Team ICO's stuff dreck, but actually K7 suffers from a lot of the same issues...namely controls and such.
And, say what you will, his games are often cobbled together without any polish because the games have small budgets. Which is fine, but it leads to some annoying issues...especially concerning the PS2 version of K7.
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I like Team ICO and Killer 7 both. I am artfag gamer mcfaggot
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You call Team ICO's stuff dreck, but actually K7 suffers from a lot of the same issues...namely controls and such.
And, say what you will, his games are often cobbled together without any polish because the games have small budgets. Which is fine, but it leads to some annoying issues...especially concerning the PS2 version of K7.
PS2 shit to develop for confirmed
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You call Team ICO's stuff dreck, but actually K7 suffers from a lot of the same issues...namely controls and such.
And, say what you will, his games are often cobbled together without any polish because the games have small budgets. Which is fine, but it leads to some annoying issues...especially concerning the PS2 version of K7.
the GC version is super smooth, looks, controls and plays great. there is nothing wrong with the controls. The story is mind blowing and extremely complex.
Ico and SotC are all grey and ugly, and have no stories
Guy drags around some bitch
Guy rides a horse and fights big beasties
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ico and sotc res. were like what? 300x200? lol
along with massive tearing and frame drops.
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You call Team ICO's stuff dreck, but actually K7 suffers from a lot of the same issues...namely controls and such.
And, say what you will, his games are often cobbled together without any polish because the games have small budgets. Which is fine, but it leads to some annoying issues...especially concerning the PS2 version of K7.
the GC version is super smooth, looks, controls and plays great. there is nothing wrong with the controls. The story is mind blowing and extremely complex.
Ico and SotC are all grey and ugly, and have no stories
Guy drags around some bitch
Guy rides a horse and fights big beasties
:lol okay
and wtf at whining about ICO's framerate? ICO's biggest problem is the bizarrely low resolution (probably because the game was a ps1 game at one point). but calling it gray and or framey is stupid. the game's usage of color is stunning-- the windmill scene is incredibly memorable and bursting with color.
I honestly thought this was going to be a "taste" thing but then you say stupid shit like "ICO has no story." Lolz media shits on killer 7 and it bombs, i'll deal.
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yeah and Killer 7 looks fucking fantastic in comparison, (thanks to the power of the cube) and has a perfectly decent level (I would actually call it high) of polish
oh yeah I didnt mention the soundtrack, which shits all over any orchestrated garbage
and one colourful faget windmill scene doesnt make a good game, sorry
sorry kev, owned again
do you have a 360? Lets play online sometime
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thats a good point,
Im sorry Kev, lets be friends on Xbox live
my tag is Sceneman
we can play Ico online co-op once it hits xbla
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yeah and Killer 7 looks fucking fantastic in comparison, (thanks to the power of the cube) and has a perfectly decent level (I would actually call it high) of polish
oh yeah I didnt mention the soundtrack, which shits all over any orchestrated garbage
and one colourful faget windmill scene doesnt make a good game, sorry
sorry kev, owned again
do you have a 360? Lets play online sometime
Are we talking about ICO or SOTC here? ICO's soundtrack is incredibly minimalist, there's hardly anything there (except towards the end). And SOTC's OST is award winning. You're one of those "orchestrated is bad" people, aren't you? "Orchestrated garbage" for one of the most varied, dynamic soundtracks in recent memory = no.
"colorful faget windmill scene"
Okay dude I think you've made your point.
edit: I like shenmue :(
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I was just trolling, I do enjoy orchestrated soundtracks, like the Baten Kaitos music omg :bow
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what 360 games do you like to play
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(http://home.comcast.net/~erickson.doug/catdance.gif) trolling (http://home.comcast.net/~erickson.doug/catdance.gif)
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what 360 games do you like to play
anything good
Doom mainly
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Killer 7 owned goddamit.
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Killer 7 owned goddamit.
(http://www.catanzareti.com/images/Kevin/jurnee2.jpg)
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You call Team ICO's stuff dreck, but actually K7 suffers from a lot of the same issues...namely controls and such.
And, say what you will, his games are often cobbled together without any polish because the games have small budgets. Which is fine, but it leads to some annoying issues...especially concerning the PS2 version of K7.
the GC version is super smooth, looks, controls and plays great. there is nothing wrong with the controls. The story is mind blowing and extremely complex.
Ico and SotC are all grey and ugly, and have no stories
Guy drags around some bitch
Guy rides a horse and fights big beasties
Um. Ico and SotC have plenty of story. wtf.
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ive said it once and I'll say it again, I was trolling, not stating facts