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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: demi on January 17, 2008, 07:56:59 PM

Title: December NPD
Post by: demi on January 17, 2008, 07:56:59 PM
HW Sales
System December 2007 Annual 2007
PlayStation 2 1.1 million 3.97 million
PlayStation 3 797.6 K 2.56 million
PlayStation Portable 1.06 million 3.82 million
Xbox 360 1.26 million 4.62 million
Wii 1.35 million 6.29 million
Nintendo DS 2.47 million 8.50 million


Top 10 SW Sales
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *1 1.47 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 1.40 million
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) *3 1.25 million
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 4 1.08 million
360 ASSASSIN'S CREED UBISOFT NOV 2007 MATURE (M) *5 893.7 K
360 HALO 3 MICROSOFT (CORP) SEP 2007 MATURE (M) *6 742.7 K
NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A NINTENDO OF AMERICA AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 7 659.5 K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS AUG 2007 EVERYONE (E) 8 655.2 K
360 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 9 624.6 K
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES SEGA OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 10 613.0 K

*Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, Bundles (Guitars) Editions
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 08:00:57 PM
go mario and sonic!

 :-\

what happened to the wii version of GH3?
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 17, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
Still, not bad Wii had quite a few top 10, where am ps3 rite lol
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: demi on January 17, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
go mario and sonic!

 :-\

what happened to the wii version of GH3?

They all got put on eBay :lol
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
wait i'm confused.  i thought sony said something about 1.2 million units (PS3) during the holidays.  ???
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 17, 2008, 08:04:30 PM
they meant sony game hardware combined lol
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 08:04:57 PM
they meant sony game hardware combined lol

oh snap.

in other news... :bow PSP
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Powerslave on January 17, 2008, 08:06:36 PM
holy fuck @ COD4
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: FancyFeast on January 17, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
 :o :P :o
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 08:08:27 PM
COD4 :rock :rock :rock

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 08:09:22 PM
the wii number isn't very impressive next to the 360 number.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: drew on January 17, 2008, 08:12:57 PM
COD4 :rock :rock :rock

:bow :bow :bow

Quoted for (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/Drewsy_photobucket/jam.gif)
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2008, 08:23:11 PM
Holy fucking shit.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 17, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
i am so going to enjoy reading gaf tonight

i will feed on the most bitter of fanboy tears
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 09:11:37 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9366506&postcount=293

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PS3 sales are quite strong. The numbers for the entire month of all hardware (sans the DS) look a bit low, however.

360, in its third Christmas season and with Halo 3 and other exclusives, only managed to outsell the PS3 by 460k with the lowest price point of entry being significantly lower than the PS3, and the PS3's most adopted model being the $499 version. Looking at it in terms of revenue, the PS3 outsold the Wii.

Pretty impressive numbers for the PS3, that's definitely sure. Now, given the sales gap in the US, it's pretty much guaranteed that worldwide the PS3 is outselling the 360. 2008 is where, in North America, PS3 starts outselling the 360 (especially as we get closer to the fall), barring any significant pricedrops by Microsoft.

Wow. I can't bring myself to read that thread after like 2 pages. Post more distinguished mentally-challenged, ridiculous shit in here plz.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Beezy on January 17, 2008, 09:16:33 PM
Why the fuck is Wii Play the #2 highest selling game of the year? :-\
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 09:17:25 PM
wtf?  the guy who wrote that acts as if 460k is some low number or something. 
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
go mario and sonic!

 :-\

what happened to the wii version of GH3?

#11 ~500k according to Matt @ IGN

i am so going to enjoy reading gaf tonight

i will feed on the most bitter of fanboy tears

Link plz when done
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 09:18:52 PM
I like how he downplays the possibility of a 360 pricedrop, too. :lol
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: FancyFeast on January 17, 2008, 09:19:30 PM
Why no creative thread title SonyCowboy?   :-*
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: FancyFeast on January 17, 2008, 09:21:08 PM
wtf?  the guy who wrote that acts as if 460k is some low number or something. 

It's Hans, he went viral a little over a year ago.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 09:23:04 PM
I think my favorite post in the thread (of what I read) was the plaintive "I'm glad 2007 is over" from someone around page 2 or 3. It just made me laugh for some reason, as if December -> January is some magical terminus and all indicators to this point are in the muck.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 09:25:55 PM
PS3 is garbage. Like I said on GAF, it could sell like garbage on its own and it would be annoying but fine, but the fact that there is no hardcore base buying software like demons like there was early in the 360s life makes the console completely worthless to developers.

Unless port costs are 10% like Ubi says, I probably wouldn't bother.

Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 09:36:21 PM
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Sony is: getting a box sitting under the television so that they can put forward other profitable initiatives.

i love this.

To date the "playstation" brand is about  2-3 billion $ in the red.

The PS3 has a great gateway setup for selling other Sony products (movies, music etc)
but let's face it - they are NEVER going to get around to it.

They talk a good game, but they have failed to execute their online plan on the PS2, the PS3 is a mess, and the less said about the PSX the better.

S

Sony as a company is a complete mess. They have SO MUCH in the way of entertainment properties that they could really take a giant shit on Microsoft's entertainment ventures if they just fucking tried. I think I saw MGM is now providing content to the XBLVM...and yet it isn't to Sony's own goddamn system!

Their inability to leverage their brands is perplexing and stupid, not to mention disappointing.

If Stringer can't get Japanese Lackey #1 to talk to Japanese Lackey #2, then he needs to fire them both.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: drohne on January 17, 2008, 09:40:52 PM
mgm isn't associated with sony anymore -- fox distributes their stuff now. this is probably the only thing i've learned reading gaf's appalling clusterfuck of a bd/hd-dvd thread
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Fucking ridiculous sales for SMG, Halo 3, and CoD4. All 3 managed to surpass what most expected.

Do we have Uncharted numbers?
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
Mass Effect (Xbox 360) 401,000
Mario Party DS (DS) 385,700
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Wii) 147,600
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS) 117,200
Half-Life 2: The Orange Box (PS3) 56,500
Nights: Journey of Dreams (Wii) 60,800
TimeShift (PS3) 25,000

Good work for the Wii and DS games I think.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
I dunno, the FFXII sales on DS have to be disappointing. Only 117k? I wonder if piracy is really affecting some of those games. Not that any pirate would pirate Mario Party DS.

mgm isn't associated with sony anymore -- fox distributes their stuff now. this is probably the only thing i've learned reading gaf's appalling clusterfuck of a bd/hd-dvd thread

Doesn't Sony own 20% of the company? Weird.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 09:53:02 PM
nights selling 60k :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 09:53:36 PM
I dunno, the FFXII sales on DS have to be disappointing. Only 117k? I wonder if piracy is really affecting some of those games. Not that any pirate would pirate Mario Party DS.

Yea, that's the only one that seems low to me, but I have no idea what to expect from DS RTSes.

ME is obviously awesome, what did it do in Nov?
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: hyp on January 17, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
november npd:

6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 09:57:51 PM
november npd:

6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000

Holy shit, that's a blowout.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Mupepe on January 17, 2008, 09:59:22 PM
Hans really is crazy
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 10:01:45 PM
Quote
If Stringer can't get Japanese Lackey #1 to talk to Japanese Lackey #2, then he needs to fire them both.

i believed that that is why STringer (a non Japanese) was brought in - because he would fire these ass hats.

but they are STILL having the same problems. Sony as a company are just crazy.

Quote
"Resident Evil in 2008? :O"

lol - well, if you own an X360 , all signs point to "yes".


Initially I thought HOHHHH JAPANIECE ONAH TOO STRONG TO WOK TOGEDA was a stereotype or a joke, but it's apparently not. Just like Kutaragi letting the PS3's design spin out of control before he went to some other engineers and asked for help or something.

I kind of feel bad for Sony. They were a really good benevolent dictator over the past 10 years or so. They just 'gon crazy!

Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 10:03:02 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/Wonder_Leone/Games/gamecubevsps3saleslol.png)
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 10:04:01 PM
I think it'd look even worse if that went through 13 months to include GCN's second Christmas season.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: LJ11 on January 17, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
mgm isn't associated with sony anymore -- fox distributes their stuff now. this is probably the only thing i've learned reading gaf's appalling clusterfuck of a bd/hd-dvd thread

Actually, Sony still owns MGM along with a bunch of other folks (a Private Equity firm, Comcast and a few others).  It's a messy deal, and you're right that Fox handles the Blu-Ray distribution of MGM films, but I'm not sure what other role (if any) they have with MGM.

Disappointing for the PS3, software especially. 
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 17, 2008, 10:05:39 PM
so that's why gaf got shithammered this afternoon
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 10:06:31 PM
I feel as though 360 should be performing a little higher too. I guess it's a price thing. By comparison, PS2 moved 2.7 million in its third Christmas.


That's probably what wii will move next year.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 10:07:51 PM
2.7M in December alone? Damn.

360 definitely underperformed versus its November, but PS3 did so even worse.

Oblivion pointed out on GAF that the week being moved back this year by NPD subtracts from December's potential and adds to November's, and if you do Nov+Dec 06 vs Nov+Dec 07 it's a 25% increase.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Assassin's Creed  :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: LJ11 on January 17, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
I feel as though 360 should be performing a little higher too. I guess it's a price thing. By comparison, PS2 moved 2.7 million in its third Christmas.


That's probably what wii will move next year.

Are you sure about that number? I think it (PS2 ) did just under 2m Nov. + Dec. 
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 10:12:26 PM
I feel as though 360 should be performing a little higher too. I guess it's a price thing. By comparison, PS2 moved 2.7 million in its third Christmas.


That's probably what wii will move next year.

Are you sure about that number? I think it (PS2 ) did just under 2m Nov. + Dec. 

No, December 2002 - 2.7 mil

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=11067
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 10:13:51 PM
I think it'd look even worse if that went through 13 months to include GCN's second Christmas season.

The best part being some people in one thread talking about the biggest fuckup this generation thought PS3's position wasn't as bad as people were making it out to be. If going from the undisputed ruler of hardware and software to sub Gamecube levels isn't a failure, well, what more can be said?
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: LJ11 on January 17, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
Sorry Kev, I should have re-read your post. 
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 10:14:48 PM
WII RESIDENT EVIL: UMBRELLA CHRONICLES - 147,600
WII NIGHTS: JOURNEY OF DREAMS - 60,800

NDS MARIO PARTY DS - 385,700
NDS FINAL FANTASY XII: REVENANT WINGS - 117,200

PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE - 206,000
PS3 ROCK BAND - 174,000
PS3 THE ORANGE BOX - 56,500
PS3 TIMESHIFT - 25,000

360 MASS EFFECT - 401,000
360 ROCK BAND - 463,000

-----

Rough LTDs:

WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK - ~1.2 million
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES - ~940K
WII RESIDENT EVIL: UMBRELLA CHRONICLES - ~270K

NDS FINAL FANTASY XII: REVENANT WINGS - ~170K

360 MASS EFFECT - ~875K
360 ROCK BAND - ~775K
360 HD-DVD ADD ON - ~315K

PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE - ~325K
360 ROCK BAND - ~245K
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 10:15:38 PM
Ratchet in a PS3 bundle near you SOON!
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 10:15:39 PM
HOLY FUCK at Rock band

:rofl @ 360 HD-DVD. Made damn decent headway against PS3 sales, really. edit: Oh wait, LTD. I thought something was fishy about that

I feel as though 360 should be performing a little higher too. I guess it's a price thing. By comparison, PS2 moved 2.7 million in its third Christmas.


That's probably what wii will move next year.

Are you sure about that number? I think it (PS2 ) did just under 2m Nov. + Dec. 

No, December 2002 - 2.7 mil

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=11067


Holy shit.

And PS3 made some strong gains on Cube this month too!
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 10:17:38 PM
Sony's Per:

PlayStation® platforms had a great holiday season, based on NPD December 2007 sales data:

Hardware Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP) –

December 2007 was the biggest month for PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) since launch, with 798K hardware units sold in December; this represents an increase of 60% over December of last year. With upcoming titles like Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Devil May Cry 4, Burnout Paradise, and HAZE as well as current momentum for Blu-ray, there is a great deal of enthusiasm for the PS3 as we enter the new year.

PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) continues to experience strong sales momentum with a new sleek design and the availability of entertainment packs. In December, 1.1 million PSP hardware units were sold; this is an 87% increase in sales over the previous month. Also, with our new partnership with Skype™ and great new games around the corner, such as God of War: Chains of Olympus, Patapon and Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, consumer excitement will only continue to grow.

With a current library of nearly 1,500 games, the PlayStation®2 (PS2) also had an excellent month in December with hardware unit sales reaching 1.1 million units. Also, the PS2 sold more software units than any other console on the market.

PlayStation total hardware revenue was $714 million in December; surpassing the total hardware revenue of Microsoft and Nintendo.


Software Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP)

PS2 Guitar Hero III was the 3rd best-selling game this holiday season across all platforms with 2.7 million units sold from October through December. Also, the PS2 version of Guitar Hero III is the best-selling version since the launch of the title.

PlayStation total software revenue in December was $822 million, sales nearly doubled compared to last month's sales.

PlayStation platforms had three software titles in the top ten list across all consoles for the month of December: Guitar Hero III for PS2 sold 800K units, Madden NFL 08 for PS2 sold 655K units and Call of Duty 4 on PS3 sold 522K units.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 10:20:46 PM
COD4 and RB aren't doing poorly at all on PS3 relative to userbase.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2008, 10:22:15 PM
Holy fuck @ Rock Band. Rock Band costs that much and EVERYONE'S STILL BUYING IT
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 10:27:32 PM
Yeah, that's pretty insane for Rock Band.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 10:29:01 PM
harmonix :bow

RB3 will kill GH5


Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Oblivion on January 17, 2008, 10:33:40 PM
CoD4 will be PS3's first million seller. And here I thought it would have been Uncharted.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Well, actually I didn't.
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Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 10:35:46 PM
harmonix :bow

RB3 will kill GH5




Sounds about right. They should be able to make functioning instruments by then.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2008, 10:36:30 PM
WHERE IS MY HIP HOP HERO AND MY AMERICAN TAKE ON BEATMANIA
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 17, 2008, 10:56:18 PM
Hans really is crazy

He's doing what virals do best.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on January 17, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/Wonder_Leone/Games/gamecubevsps3saleslol.png
:lol :lol :lol bomba total
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 17, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
360 Software Sales tearin up the charts :bow
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
How can we be doing badly LOOK AT ALL THAT REVENUE

 :meeble :meeble :meeble

 :rofl
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 11:40:09 PM
I just noticed Snah is Hans backwards

Why haven't the mods noticed this
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2008, 11:43:29 PM
Who said they didn't notice?

he was called out hans and viral many times before on GAF.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2008, 11:44:41 PM
Then why is he still there?
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2008, 11:45:47 PM
Proof that he is indeed a viral? no idea really.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
He was never banned on GAF for his OA antics.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: drohne on January 17, 2008, 11:54:25 PM
good for uncha

smh @ ps3 owners who'd rather play cod4 or ass creed
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:09:52 AM
Everything looks about right from what I saw sold this holiday season.  I will say this about Sony as a manufacturer - although they were the only console manufacturer with any product left in my backroom after Christmas (both the PS2 and PS3 did not sellout), they've been better than Microsoft or Nintendo in replenishing PSP stock.  And the PSP has sold gangbusters.

In regards to poor DS software sales, it's pretty simple when you look at the demographic at who is buying it.  The answer is on the NPD chart - Brain Age 2.  The vast majority of folks are going to buy Brain Age and another non-gamer title a year.  Maybe less.  The hardcore gamer demographic that buys a DS is relatively small in comparison.  Nintendo has really tapped into a new market with both the DS and Wii, but the problem for third-parties is that they're not regular gamers.  Piracy really hurts the PSP software sales; I'd say that more than half the folks that buy one freely admit that they're going to hack it.  People love the system, though.  I'm willing to bet it has a worse tie ratio than the PS3.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:24:00 AM
I'm probably going to buy a PS3 next price drop.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: demi on January 18, 2008, 01:16:53 AM
WHERE IS MY HIP HOP HERO AND MY AMERICAN TAKE ON BEATMANIA

(http://videogames.lovetoknow.com/wiki/images/VideoGames/thumb/a/a6/Getondamic_box.jpg/200px-Getondamic_box.jpg)
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 18, 2008, 01:35:48 AM
go mario and sonic!

 :-\

what happened to the wii version of GH3?

They all got put on eBay :lol

I eBayed my GH3 Wii. $96 + $18 shipping. :bow
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 18, 2008, 02:01:55 AM
good for uncha
smh @ ps3 owners who'd rather play cod4 or ass creed

You meant Uncharted?  Has there ever been a more aptly named title than Uncharted?  

Seriously though, 300000 is not bad for a PS3 game.  Uncharted should hit at least 1/2 a million eventually.  

After beating both games, I've to say that most PS3 gamers pick the right choice with COD4.  It's just a better shooter than Uncharted.  Uncharted would have been a better game if they had just kept the shooting at a minimum.  
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: FancyFeast on January 18, 2008, 02:35:34 AM
I just noticed Snah is Hans backwards

Why haven't the mods noticed this

Who do you think keeps unbanning him?


Pachter's butt boy has Hans' back.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: MCD on January 18, 2008, 02:59:53 AM
(http://i8.tinypic.com/73jui4p.jpg)
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
WHERE IS MY HIP HOP HERO

Yeah, what the fuck MTV Games? TARGET YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC! I DON'T EVEN GIVE A FUCK IF AY BAY BAY IS THE TOP SONG.

Huh? Fuck MTV. UNDERGROUND AND OLDSCHOOL HIP HOP ONLY.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2008, 09:27:05 AM
Huh? Fuck MTV. UNDERGROUND AND OLDSCHOOL HIP HOP ONLY.


 :lol :lol What game developer would honestly do that without throwing total shit in the game first? At least with MTV you're bound to get something decent.

Something decent? MAINSTREAM HIP HOP SUCKS.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 18, 2008, 09:53:54 AM
360 sales were the most disappointing.  From what I saw and what others reported, Premiums were not as readily available as a system in its third Christmas season should be.  All I saw during the holidays were plenty of Halo and Tard Plus (Arcade) packs.  That probably cost Microsoft a couple hundred thousand units.  360 software beat the shit out of the competition but that is standard fare.

PS3 didn't do all that bad on the hardware side.  Of course Sony PR lies, its what they've been doing since the mid 90s.  Only people that believe what they say are naive, shiny eyed Sony fanboy idealists with a short term memory.
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 18, 2008, 10:16:14 AM
I just noticed Snah is Hans backwards

Why haven't the mods noticed this

Jesus, I feel so dumb. :lol
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 18, 2008, 11:07:37 AM
Speaking of Hans......

Anyone remember this thread? (http://www.forgotten-gamer.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=105007&hl=hans)
Title: Re: December NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2008, 03:39:18 PM
revenue  :bow

 :lol

GAF failed business 101