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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 03:34:49 AM

Title: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 03:34:49 AM

bought on 25th October last year, got a solid 3 MONTHS of gameplaying in, now the fucker RRODed while I was watching a DVD

any chance this is a one-off flip out (it is really warm weather-wise atm) or is my unit fucked? Havent tried turning it on again

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 03:39:06 AM

:(

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: drew on February 03, 2008, 03:39:34 AM

Ouch, so close to DMC4.  Chances are you're fucked.

BTW, where in the hell do you live that it's warm right now?!?

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: demi on February 03, 2008, 03:41:50 AM

maybe next time you'll listen to me

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2008, 03:42:27 AM

I think new zealand is in the southern hemisphere so it should be the hot season right now.

for whether it's fucked or not, an RRoD means it might come back to life (especially with the towel trick) but you'll only have a while before it dies again.  you'll have to send it to MS.  sorry man.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 03:42:58 AM

the southern hemisphere  :D  edit: beaten lolz, yeah were having a super hot humid summer atm

but yeah Im gutted as fuck, I was having tons of fun with Rez and Omega V

I shelled out for an extended warranty at the store I bought it from, so Im keen for a straight up replacement... hopefully the shop will deliver.. DMC4 comes out Friday, hopefully shit will be sorted by then  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( too hopeful I know

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2008, 03:45:44 AM

well store replacements should be instant.  but how do you keep your saves and such?  and don't arcade games get tied to a specific system?

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 03:47:54 AM

its all on the HD, I should be able to keep it, right? (it is removable?)

I dunno I'll give the machine a go in an hour or two

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 03, 2008, 03:49:29 AM

YEAH HD WILL WORK

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 03:51:55 AM

Wont the new machine want to format a new HDD volume attached to it ASAP?

Dont you need some kind of transfer kit or just get XBLA support to give you all of your points back so you can re-download and DRM all of your games to the new machine?

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2008, 03:56:11 AM

I thought the game was DRM'd to that specific console but I never tried it.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 03, 2008, 03:57:07 AM

I was going to trade up for a falcon punch system while mine still worked, but my friend got a new 360 from this past Christmas time and it RRoD'd as well. I think when my 360 dies again, it's over. I'm not putting up with this crap again. I have my PC gaming rig so stuff like Bioshock runs superior on, and the only thing I think i'll be upset missing out on if it doesn't hit pc as well would probably be Fable 2 and perhaps NG2. Small price to pay for not playing the free game installed on the 360 which is when you press the power button will it RRoD or not.

I love the game selection on the 360 up until this point, but there's not much for me to look forward to so far in 08 for it. Also multiplatform games don't usually interest me, but the games that do luckily haven't been a disaster on the PS3. CoD4 runs superior online with the PS3 compared to the 360, and Burnout is better overall. DMC4 is a toss up besides that I like the DS3 for it's gameplay better, plus Uncompressed Audio is a massive selling point for me.

I suggest if it's not under warranty, just upgrade your PC to handle the games if it can't already, and pick up a PS3. And, if this is "another death", if you get it back under warranty, trade it in while it still works. This is going to be the only way MS learns not to screw over their consumers.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: demi on February 03, 2008, 03:58:01 AM

If you recover your gamertag, all your saves are useless. KEEP THAT HARD DRIVE

alternative option: buy memory card and transfer saves and gamercard

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:01:13 AM

Quote from: demi on February 03, 2008, 03:58:01 AM

If you recover your gamertag, all your saves are useless.

 :kylielaff

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2008, 04:01:52 AM

well MS is supposed to switch to 65 nm "jasper" GPU's to lower heat output from the GPU and that's supposedly what causes the console to break down.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 04:02:40 AM

fuck Im scared/confused, I dont want to fuck up and lose all my saved games/achievements

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2008, 04:04:04 AM

I've never RROD

When I had disc drive issues I went to several Best Buys until they let me keep HDD

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 04:08:12 AM

this is my 2nd, my 1st 360 rroded straight out of the box lol

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 04:08:53 AM

hmmm might give the box another go, see If I can get me in some Omega 5

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 03, 2008, 04:10:06 AM

Quote from: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:01:13 AM

Quote from: demi on February 03, 2008, 03:58:01 AM

If you recover your gamertag, all your saves are useless.

 :kylielaff

Did you have a problem with your 360 before putting it away? 

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:10:50 AM

I never RROD. What region and model did you have?

I had North American Pro and then a launch Elite - no problems with either.

Sometimes i would worry as when XBL is laggy, the blade menues use to freeze a bit....but it was just latency or XBL tech issues not my unit.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:18:47 AM

I also didnt do anything special with mine - I treated them as nice as you feel like you need to treat say a VCR.....I sometimes had it on all weekend or for LONG stretches of time with no overheating etc....I watched movies or played games or did whatever with no failures.....

I HATE how people tiptoe around because they wanna prevent RROD - fuck that - unless yer jizzin in the vents you should be able to run it like a PC WITHOUT worry.

I had this kind of experience with X360.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:20:52 AM

In fact - as soon as you get your new one - burn it in by leaving it on for at least 24-48 hours..........

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: drew on February 03, 2008, 04:32:33 AM

Quote from: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:18:47 AM

I HATE how people tiptoe around because they wanna prevent RROD - fuck that - unless yer jizzin in the vents you should be able to run it like a PC WITHOUT worry.

I had this kind of experience with X360.

Once it happens to you once at a completely random time, you'll never trust it again.  I was the same way before mine red ringed.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 04:43:15 AM

well I just did a full playthrough of Omega 5, no probs whatsoever... maybe I rang the alarm early on this one... only time will tell

maybe the machine just had an adverse reaction to having an extremely grubby rental copy of 'The Aviator' inside it? (thats what was playing when it flipped out, had super smudges all over the DVD)

Might try some CoD2 now...

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: abrader on February 03, 2008, 04:51:11 AM

Do you smoke cigarettes? Around the machine?

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 06:14:25 AM

I do smoke, but not inside the house

just played an hour or two worth of Call of Duty 2... machine was running fine...  ??? weird

hopefully I dont see the red rings agian for a while

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2008, 06:32:56 AM

When mine RROD'ed (once, but continued working after that), i asked the customer service guy if i should send it in right away or wait for it to die totally. He said 'it'll die sooner or later, it's inevitable, send it in'. I figured the man knows what he's talking about, and did so. Got it back within a week. 

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2008, 06:33:16 AM

do falcons RROD?

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: demi on February 03, 2008, 06:34:33 AM

yes, but they arent as common

but it's microsoft, you're fucked

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2008, 06:49:05 AM

I didn't buy anew extended for my Falcon.

lol, it's a one-shot replacement. some extended warranty!

if my Falcon RRODs, not sure what I'll do.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2008, 07:14:44 AM

i have faith my 360 won't die on me!

if my 360 dies on me before gta4 i will shit a gasket and go ps3

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2008, 07:19:02 AM

Quote from: Himuro on February 03, 2008, 07:14:44 AM

i have faith my 360 won't die on me!

if my 360 dies on me before gta4 i will shit a gasket and go ps3

playing on SD tv probably won't kill it fast.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2008, 07:19:52 AM

whut? what does the type of tv have to do with anything

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2008, 07:24:43 AM

Quote from: Himuro on February 03, 2008, 07:19:52 AM

whut? what does the type of tv have to do with anything

HD = bigger res, more heat, more processing...etc...you get the picture.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2008, 07:28:05 AM

AHAHAHAHAH

HD OWNERS OWNED

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2008, 07:31:53 AM

 :lol

not saying it won't die, just saying it may live longer.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2008, 07:32:25 AM

THEY STILL GOT OWNED

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2008, 08:24:55 AM

nah, most 360 games render in HD and then scale it to whatever res you have the console set at.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2008, 11:24:15 AM

I'm on my third 360.  Lost over 100 hours of Oblivion on the last warranty trade-in  :(

If this one dies, I guess I'll send it int to MS, as I didn't spring for an extended warranty at Best Buy this last time (I was told they don't do in-store replacements on video game hardware at BB anymore on new warranties, they send it in for repair first) and I have too much invested in games/HD DVDs - but I'm pretty tired of it, to be honest.  If third parties get their shit together on ports and they aren't atrocious, I'll probably start buying all multiplatform games on PS3.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Rman on February 03, 2008, 11:35:58 AM

Honestly, the 360 hardware situation has been a disaster in so many fronts.  If this system was another 3DO no one would care.  But MS has been doing with great job with system--games, online-needs to be free, though--xbla, achievements, and such.  It's frustrating when MS seems to be applying a bandage approach to fixing their system.  At least fix the DRM to accommodate easy migration of gamercard and arcade games.  If mine dies, I'm waiting for a new definitive revision.  I'm not too excited of using the PS3 as a primary system, though.  Online is not comparable to the 360 imho.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2008, 11:38:23 AM

hopefully ps3 devs will steal the online implementation that burnout paradise uses

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 03, 2008, 11:45:12 AM

I got RROD once.  I unplugged the 360 and let it sit for a week, and it works just fine.  This was like a year and a half ago and its a launch unit. 

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2008, 12:17:52 PM

Blame Ati and their superior GPU, that shit melts everything.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: muckson on February 03, 2008, 12:19:25 PM

my 360 died on me and i got a new one but used the old hard drive.  since i had two accounts the harddrive shifted all my saves between the two depending on where i bought my stuff from xbox live.  while i was living in japan i bought almost all of my arcade games on my japanese account and with the new system it shifted the full versions to the japanese account and erased all my saves.  

for oblivion i bought knights of the something or other on the japanese account and with the new system it took away all the armor and goodies i earned from that quest.  the dark dungeon add-on that i bought with the america account stayed, and since i saved the game on my american account the dungeon existed in that game.

crackdown fuzzed up because it said the data was corrupted, but that's ok.

i didn't lose anything in the transfer so i didn't sweat it.  i just don't want this shit to happen again because i like my japanese system and if it dies and i have to send it to japan then i'm going to be pissed off.  last time i sent it in to texas and they sent me back a refurbished american one like a bunch of cocksuckers.  i wouldn't have gotten a new one if it weren't for my wife buying me one for my birthday.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 05:52:41 PM

fuck Im not sure wether or not I should send my box in to get repaired now, or If I should keep playing it and send it in once it decides to not turn on at all?

I mean I could get lucky and it could be a one-off rrod like father mike had, or the fucker could be on the way out... DMC4 comes out Friday! Im playing with fire here...

would there be a chance that the machine flipped out becuase it was trying to play a fucked up/scratched DVD and interpreted it as a hardware failure?

Should I call M$ for advice?

I dont know why but Im anxious as hell about this

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: demi on February 03, 2008, 06:16:10 PM

Just keep playing

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 06:25:27 PM

demi right as usual  ;)

I think if it stops working altogether its time to upgrade to PS3, look at the lineup

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 06:51:57 PM

last night the box just turned off and displayed the RROD, when I was watching a crusty rental DVD

left it for an hour then played 2 hours worth of Call of Duty 2, no probs.... but this shit has still left me anxious, my machine needs to hold out for DMC4

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 07:07:34 PM

yep 3 rings

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: demi on February 03, 2008, 07:09:55 PM

It could have just overheated. If you don't see graphical glitches (the checkerboard pattern) then chances are you are still good.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 07:13:20 PM

*fingers crossed*

It was a fucking humid night last night, had an awful sleep

fuck this sub-tropical shit

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2008, 07:50:18 PM

I have a slight twinge of fear every time I turn on my 360. I feel like I'm walking the razor's edge just playing a few rounds of Uno.  :-\

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 07:56:41 PM

we should try and spin it positively, now our gaming experience will have loads more tension and excitement!

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2008, 08:18:02 PM

Quote from: Scenester on February 03, 2008, 07:56:41 PM

we should try and spin it positively, now our gaming experience will have loads more tension and excitement!

It's a metagame. If you make it to 2010-11 with a working 360, you win! If your Xbox dies before then, but it's still under warranty, it's like when you lose your ball really quick in pinball and  it gives you a free ball, so that's okay. If it's not under warranty and you have to buy another one, it's like inserting more money to buy a continue. If you a buy a Falcon, it's like playing on Easy mode, launch model is Hard mode. Poorly ventilated launch model is Insane mode. I think Microsoft should make achievements for this.

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2008, 08:33:06 PM

Secret Stash 200G - take a shit inside your console before you send it off for repairs

hahahahaha

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: Mupepe on February 04, 2008, 02:41:04 PM

they let you keep your HDD if you send it to MS.  So you will still have your saves.

my 360 froze up the other night like 3 times in a row, but it's working like a champ.

When it really dies, you'll know.  You'll see it checker pattern on startup or on the dash.

Just keep playing til it dies

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: y2kev on February 04, 2008, 02:42:02 PM

trash team ico -> rrod

100% fact looks like

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: hyp on February 04, 2008, 03:01:53 PM

get a ps3

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and return it once you get your 360 back

[close]

Title: Re: wow my 360 bit the dust
Post by: The Sceneman on February 04, 2008, 04:39:29 PM

played me some Omega V, Rez and CoD2 last night.... no probs.... Im guessing this shit was a false alarm... what a relief


DMC4 :rock