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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on February 20, 2008, 05:12:42 AM

Title: FEZ
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2008, 05:12:42 AM
This game Fez looks absolutely badass. It's for pc, has Cave Story art design, and Crush-esque gameplay. Check out the vid.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17594

(http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/040/1/d/fez_screenshot_2_by_phishy.jpg)
(http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/040/d/4/fez_screenshot_3_by_phishy.jpg)
(http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/040/9/d/9d69f4bc91230b7b.jpg)
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 20, 2008, 06:52:39 AM
and the Persona fans get a little more angry.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 20, 2008, 11:48:03 AM
Yeah, the link is for a different game.  Here's the right one...

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17594 (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17594)


Looks nice.  Kinda reminds me of Echochrome in a way.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 20, 2008, 12:21:28 PM
I guess I'm unfamiliar with Crush.  Where can I find that?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
it's on psp, hitler check out this review

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4161.html
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 20, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
This game looks super hot.  The bad loc helps too!
Title: Rise From Your Grave
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2012, 11:48:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_FAOiX7kw

Finally comes out Friday. 800 points


Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2012, 11:50:25 AM
Nope. Fish aint seeing a cent from me.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Timber on April 09, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
It's for pc,

I got all excited/confused when I read this. Then I shed a dainty little tear.  :bawl
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
Nope. Fish aint seeing a cent from me.

I'll buy two to make up for you.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 09, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
Nope. Fish aint seeing a cent from me.

I'll buy two to make up for you.

Gift the extra one to me on Steam. If it's not on Steam, then fuck it.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 09, 2012, 01:08:05 PM
Nope. Fish aint seeing a cent from me.

I'll buy two to make up for you.

I'm not buying a copy either. Maybe I'll pirate a PC version that's about it. Hipster loser ain't seeing a cent from me.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
I forgot i even made this thread :rofl
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 09, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Jesus Christ :lol
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 09, 2012, 01:26:43 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 01:28:43 PM
February 20, 2008

April 9, 2012

:lol
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 09, 2012, 01:33:14 PM
I'd be more interested in this game if it hadn't taken an eternity to be released and the dev wasn't such an asshole.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Robo on April 09, 2012, 01:37:55 PM
I'll be waiting for impressions to hear whether or not it's the very toothless Crush-a-like it appears to be.

This, but I'll probably buy it regardless.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 02:23:26 PM
Four years, wow.  Uh...hope it's good!


Not buying it full price because the guy has come off as a total douche and I have a huge backlog.  If it's good will play it in a year.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 09, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
I'll be waiting for impressions to hear whether or not it's the very toothless Crush-a-like it appears to be.

partly this

partly because these XBLA/PSN eventually come to PC, despite what the developers say.

and Crush came out a second time since this game was in development
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 09, 2012, 03:01:50 PM
it's not confirmed for pc? thought it was canonized that xbla is barely a spitball of money compared to the bukkake steam provides
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 09, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
I got excited for the PC mention as well. I don't have a 360 right now, but if I did, I'd buy it. I mean, 800pts is totally cray-cheap.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 09, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
You know what, I'll buy it off xbox.com just to piss off the weeaboos.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2012, 05:53:59 PM
You know what, I'll buy it off xbox.com just to piss off the weeaboos.

I honestly don't care about a bunch of dudes who are upset he said something dumb or off the cuff about Japan. People on forums say dumb stuff all the time. If I was going to start grudges I'd have thousands of them.

I'm curious to try out the game. I wasn't somebody who's anxiously been waiting for it for years so I don't have incredibly high expectations. I'm just looking for a decent to good $10 XBLA title hopefully.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2012, 06:06:14 PM
Him being a douche would have been a dilemma had I intended to purchase Fez, but honestly, I was never going to buy this game anyway. Fish being a douche just makes it easier.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 09, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
not buying because it looks shitty

the designer being a douche is just icing on the cake
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 09, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
You know what, I'll buy it off xbox.com just to piss off the weeaboos.

I'd say I would counter you by doing something to piss off westaboos, but I don't even need to bother anymore. Apparently there's a whole company name Bioware that exists just to do that. :P

I was slightly interested at this when it was first announced, when indie games with retro graphics was still a novelty and before I played Crush and Super Paper Mario... but the game being stuck so long in dev hell made me stop caring, and the dev being a dick (a friend of mine is friends with the guy too and says he really is a dick, it's not an act/cry for attention :P ) is the icing on the cake. Much better indie titles out there to spend my money on.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: magus on April 09, 2012, 08:53:20 PM
You know what, I'll buy it off xbox.com just to piss off the weeaboos.

I'd say I would counter you by doing something to piss off westaboos, but I don't even need to bother anymore. Apparently there's a whole company name Bioware that exists just to do that. :P

fuck yeah!

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/2011-09-04-animefrat_small.gif?t=1334019168)
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on April 09, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
what exactly has the creator of this game done to be branded as to be a champion of assholerly?

and since I made my original comment, Persona 3:FES has been released three times (counting tomorrow's PSN drop).
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 09, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
oh, and he's french-canadian.

Goddammit. It's like a giant fly took a dip in my favorite hipster, weeaboo-oppressing soup
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 09, 2012, 11:27:39 PM
People have recently uncovered his GAF profile as well. His post history, mostly dating back to 3-4 years ago, is very incriminating. It reinforces the idea that he's been a huge douche bag from the very beginning, and that the douchiness  is not a product of his newly found popularity or sudden pein-growth.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 09, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Will wait until it is 99 cents in a Steam sale...and then not even bothering to buy it then.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 09, 2012, 11:37:29 PM
I dunno asshole or not a good game is a good game, I'll try FEZ out
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 09, 2012, 11:38:18 PM
People have recently uncovered his GAF profile as well. His post history, mostly dating back to 3-4 years ago, is very incriminating. It reinforces the idea that he's been a huge douche bag from the very beginning, and that the douchiness  is not a product of his newly found popularity or sudden pein-growth.

Is he kittonwy?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 09, 2012, 11:54:24 PM
You guys would've never guessed the name. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=13227)
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 10, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
the most famous dickery he's done is telling that japanese developer at the gdc conference that japanese games just suck, then apologizing by saying 'sorry if i was harsh but man your games are shit', then doubling down more, then finally apologizing to the guy.

he also took advantage of his game's rather lengthy development process to resubmit his game for another indie award even though he had already won before.  he's very good friends with the top guy of the group that gives the award so that's kind of fishy (lullllz).  phil fish even admitted he was pulling a dick move by entering again, but if it was allowed, it was allowed.  then when he won the award (again) he told everyone to suck his dick.

he said there was no pc version of fez because his vision is that you should be playing fez on a saturday morning with a controller in hand on your comfy couch.

he's deflected comparisons to crush by saying the game has shitty art (which it kinda does but doesn't really address the gameplay comparison, which is more what people are getting at here i'd think)

in general, he's been one of those super-arrogant indie "stars" without even finishing his game.

oh, and he's french-canadian.

There's another one about how he voted against Super Meat Boy for that indie game award thing because it was being published by MS on XBLA (and therefore not indie enough).  Naturally Fez is being published by MS on XBLA.  This info is from the not-Ed-McMillan Team Meat guy, who Fish actually told this to because he has no shame.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 10, 2012, 12:09:09 AM
I grew up with a mother who is bi-polar.  Knowing that he's bi-polar does make his behavior understandable - but doesn't engender sympathy, honestly.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 10, 2012, 01:29:23 AM
FUCK PHIL FISH, AND FUCK BIG RED
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 10, 2012, 02:44:16 AM
he also took advantage of his game's rather lengthy development process to resubmit his game for another indie award even though he had already won before.  he's very good friends with the top guy of the group that gives the award so that's kind of fishy (lullllz).  phil fish even admitted he was pulling a dick move by entering again, but if it was allowed, it was allowed.  then when he won the award (again) he told everyone to suck his dick.

this is the one thing that's actually shitty since the winner gets a cash prize (iirc) so it comes off as scammy, robbing other nominees, etc.  but it's more on the IGF.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 10, 2012, 08:48:39 AM
in his gaf post history (which is mostly full of him mentioning where he worked and bashing the shit out of them, along with a ton of name-dropping andsome Fez promotion towards the end), he mentions he's bipolar... that would explain quite a bit, actually.

Also he mentions his dream collab is with Takahashi (I assume Keita not Tetsuya)... "hey your peoples' games are fucking horrible, but I still want to work with you!"
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 10, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
Occupation:
    level designer by day, art-game designer extraordinaire by night.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 10, 2012, 05:31:27 PM
You guys would've never guessed the name. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=13227)
uh...
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You have been banned for the following reason:
Account suicide? Well, whatever.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Linking doesn't help everyone here. :P
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 10, 2012, 05:42:48 PM
Phil Fish's GAF username is...phil_fish.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Robo on April 10, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
Linking doesn't help everyone here. :P

Clear yr cookies, ya dummy.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Momo on April 10, 2012, 05:54:47 PM
Linking doesn't help everyone here. :P

Clear yr cookies, ya dummy.
You need to be logged in and a member to see someones profile
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Robo on April 10, 2012, 05:58:05 PM
Oh, duh.  :dur
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 10, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Oh, duh.  :dur
Yeah, wouldn't have had a problem if I didn't have to log in. :P
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: chronovore on April 11, 2012, 01:57:08 AM
Didn't Fish also make a huge stink about Super Meat Boy being up for that indie award since Team Meat had an XBLA partnership and got it removed from the running?
Ah, right you are. 

There really are too many instances of Phil Fish being a dick to list in any one post.

Yeah, that's pretty slimy.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 11, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2oZteKKJI

looks quite good

review are mostly in the 8 to 9 range, depending on the artsyfartsytude of the reviewer.  sounds like it has some major technical problems, crashes, memory leaks making load times longer the more you play, stuttering, and all that.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 11, 2012, 09:45:25 PM
That's weird. I thought MS was pretty anal and strict about their approval. How did progress-impending technical problems like that fall through the cracks?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 10:40:49 PM
That's weird. I thought MS was pretty anal and strict about their approval. How did progress-impending technical problems like that fall through the cracks?

C'mon now. Shitloads of games get through as retail games and xbla games that are buggy as shit and crash worthy as shit. Relatively speaking of course.

Glad the game seems to be getting good reviews. Makes my purchase easier. I'll be glad when the game comes out so we can actually talk about the game and not about the cult of personality around a dev of a game. Although I have a feeling that will always color the conversations.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 11, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
Castle Crashers had some horrific bugs when it was released, and took many months to get patched. For instance the game decided to throw all my progress down the toilet when I was 2/3 through the game.

Didn't stop the game being one of the most successful XBLA games! It's still sitting in the top 5, 4 years after it's release. Must have made a trillion dollars
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 11, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
I'm aware of buggy retail releases, but I thought the situation was tighter when it came to XBLA games due the costs and restrictions of game patches. Smaller devs usually try to avoid that.

My experience with the XBLA games I own has been positive enough to assume it was the rule, I guess.

Though I *do* remember CC's debacle now that you've mentioned it.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 11, 2012, 11:11:11 PM
Castle Crasher's online was totally broken.  A patch came out long after I stopped caring.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 02:51:33 AM
This looks SO GOOD.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 13, 2012, 08:02:45 AM
Played it for about an hour this morning. It's solid. I mean whether you think its 10/10 or 9 out 10 excellent is debatable but I certainly like it in the realm of xbla titles. If it wasn't this dude attached to it, it would probably be this neat little xbla game with none of the drama attached where people feel they have a take a stand on the game. Its exactly what it looks like even if you knew relatively little about it going in. It's puzzle platform game where you use the 3-D perspective shifting mechanic to find hidden collectibles in the environment. I never played the crush game that people were mentioning earlier in the thread but then I'm a person who believes no game is 100% original so that doesn't bother me at all.

The most cloying aspect I would say is that it feels specifically like another of those indie games that revels in its indie-ness which is getting a bit annoying but then there are tons of titles with this attitude on PC released all the time and that doesn't seem to bother anyone. And in that regard at least its less pretentious than something like Braid. The performance hitches sometimes which is annoying but since its mostly a puzzle game where the platforming doesn't need to be amazingly tight like Super Meat Boy or something its not a huge issue for me. Music is really enjoyable. Art is done in that retro style but its solid in what its going for. I like it.

Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: demi on April 13, 2012, 02:30:44 PM
so... is it good? i mean, the guy isn't doing tai chi in his living room so he can't be all bad.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 13, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
demo was nice.  really clever how it always looks like a 2D game unless you're changing perspective.  all around nice presentation.  don't know if the game pans out but seems a lot less complex than Crush, but seems more exploration-y than puzzle-y.

now I'm playing the sniper elite demo and my bullet went through nazi's testicles and then hit the grenade of the guy behind him.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 13, 2012, 05:46:46 PM
Watching the Giantbomb quicklook it thoroughly reminds me of Knytt. I guess I'll replay Knytt stories or something until this comes out on pc. 
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 13, 2012, 05:52:28 PM
Fuck Phil Fish and fuck Fez. Oh and fuck all the Indies who shuffled uncomfortably and simply piped in with "well... he's just telling the truth about japanese gaming" instead of condemning his huge fucking mouth/ego.

that is all.

I am going to buy 10 copies.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 13, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
demo was nice.  really clever how it always looks like a 2D game unless you're changing perspective.  all around nice presentation.  don't know if the game pans out but seems a lot less complex than Crush, but seems more exploration-y than puzzle-y.

now I'm playing the sniper elite demo and my bullet went through nazi's testicles and then hit the grenade of the guy behind him.

There is nice exploration aspect. It is a puzzle on how you get some of the stuff so far but its less of a pure puzzle game than Braid or something. It's also more of a straight "game" than braid in that it has all sorts of traditional game bits in it that are similar to other games.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2012, 07:21:21 PM
Meh. It's full of personality, but the gameplay is so simple that I got bored even by the trial.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 13, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17359225&postcount=186

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that game has been in development in one form or another for seriously something like 5-6 years. it used to be for the original xbox.

lawl

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16225517&highlight=#post16225517

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i worked on this game in another life.
dont think anything i did is still in there.
that game has been in dev for a long time.

double lawl
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 14, 2012, 12:38:09 AM
Fuck Phil Fish and fuck Fez. Oh and fuck all the Indies who shuffled uncomfortably and simply piped in with "well... he's just telling the truth about japanese gaming" instead of condemning his huge fucking mouth/ego.

that is all.

I am going to buy 10 copies.

I love how westaboos like to throw their money away on stupid shit to try and prove a point. (buy 10 copies of a game from a guy who hates Japan, buy cupcakes to send to Bioware to get them to change the ME3 ending). Did ME3's crappy ending really make all you guys crazy or something?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 14, 2012, 01:12:48 AM
Is it actually like Crush where you really are walking along platforms in the foreground and background as if they were on the same level, or is it more like Super Paper Mario where it's more of a clever camera trick? (I haven't played SPM, that's just what it looked like)
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 14, 2012, 01:37:24 AM
Well, you know how in Crush you'll be on two planes at once? It's like that, but there's a lot less going on. For example, one part of a puzzle requires you to pull a crank that turns a platform around. The platform has a ladder but the ladder doesn't reach the top of the platform (your goal). So you turn the camera to see another ladder, that connects with the other ladder if you align them via the camera.

It's very simplistic and not nearly as interesting as Crush though they share similar ideas.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 14, 2012, 03:16:29 AM
Fuck Phil Fish and fuck Fez. Oh and fuck all the Indies who shuffled uncomfortably and simply piped in with "well... he's just telling the truth about japanese gaming" instead of condemning his huge fucking mouth/ego.

that is all.

I am going to buy 10 copies.

I love how westaboos like to throw their money away on stupid shit to try and prove a point. (buy 10 copies of a game from a guy who hates Japan, buy cupcakes to send to Bioware to get them to change the ME3 ending). Did ME3's crappy ending really make all you guys crazy or something?

(http://i.imgur.com/Wh4Wc.gif)

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I am going to buy 20 copies now
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I have never even played any of the mass effect games because they are disgusting western equivalences of Japanese so ronery dating sims. :smug
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Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 14, 2012, 07:00:06 AM

I love how westaboos like to throw their money away on stupid shit to try and prove a point. (buy 10 copies of a game from a guy who hates Japan, buy cupcakes to send to Bioware to get them to change the ME3 ending). Did ME3's crappy ending really make all you guys crazy or something?

come on breh, you're above this sort of thing.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Timber on April 14, 2012, 12:27:15 PM
(dislike Fish, dislike buggy games, dislike arty-farty games, this is too many things I dislike converging)

Don't forget French Canadians!
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 14, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
Hmm, I dislike Fish and artfaggy games generally, buuut I kinda like what I played of the demo?  :-[ At least I wanted to continue playing anyway. Maybe when it's on for 400 instead of 800 spacebucks.
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if i were really converted i would've ceased capitalizing and written every new sentence on a new line.
like so.
is fucker using a dreamcast browser or some shit?
i mean, seriously.
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Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 15, 2012, 12:50:21 PM
So should I bother with this shit or keep watching Game of Thrones on Blu-ray instead
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 15, 2012, 12:54:22 PM
game of thrones
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Robo on April 15, 2012, 03:09:47 PM
So should I bother with this shit or keep watching Game of Thrones on Blu-ray instead

That ain't even fair.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 15, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
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I won't be buying it (dislike Fish, dislike buggy games, dislike arty-farty games, this is too many things I dislike converging), but that's just me.

The big problem with the indie scene is there's not many people i look at in the scene and feel inspired by.

Minter i guess is up there but the rest just seem like a complete shower of c*nts. Blow's a c*nt, Fish is a c*nt, Notch is odd... if we then branch into iOS land we've got a whole hornets nest of c*ntage - Zynga, Zynga and not forgetting massive industry tw*ts Zynga.

<oldendaysvoice>When i were a lad</oldendaysvoice> we had Brabben, Bell (both c*nts apparently!), Crawford (apparently a c*nt), Stamper brothers (both c*nts) and Braybrook (really nice!)

... oh wait... well at least Braybrook was nice... oh now wait - he went into finance industry IT ... set mark down for "c*nt!"

For oldskool UK indie devs, Andy Davidson is pretty awesome... creator of my favorite long-running GAF thread.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 15, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
There are lots of great devs out there who makes lots of great stuff and never say a word. Its just that people tend to focus on the outrageous personalities.

Me personally I don't care. There are a few devs who I kinda support simply because I like them and have long standing attachments to them like Jeff Minter.

For the devs that sort of annoy me, I tend to focus on whether I like the game or not. How I "feel" about them doesn't really come into whether I'm going to buy their game. I don't need to like someone to enjoy their work. Sames goes for movies, books, or any entertainment product.

As far as the actual game, I'm about halfway through I would guess. Definitely I like the game. I don't think its 10 out of 10 material like Eurogamer and places like that are proclaiming unless it gets amazingly better in the second half. That being said I've enjoyed what I've played so far. There is a problem with game reviewers where they feel they have to over-score anything that is a bit original or different because they already overscore the mainstream stuff so much. I felt the way about Bastion which got wildly praised for what I thought was a good game but not an amazing one. Of course all this stuff is obviously subjective. Once I beat it, I'll kinda give my full breakdown of it. 
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 15, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Guys like Fish only really get attention cos they're dicks though - there are some good devs out there who just make good games and keep their heads down.  Konjak seems like an ok guy.

EDIT: beaten
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 15, 2012, 10:50:55 PM
I'm convinced the only reason Fish was a dick last month at GDC was to advertise his game. It's brilliant, really. Be a penis at GDC, attack Japanese games - this always makes headlines, win an award, release game next month, increase sales.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 15, 2012, 10:54:06 PM
Well, like I said, I am friends with a guy who is friends with Fish, and he said that yes, he's a bit of an ass in real life... so it wasn't just an act.

Saw my brother playing this, didn't look terribly exciting, though it could just be that he was on the early stages of the game. Crush was definitely a lot more interesting in terms of puzzles, I really dug the 3D spatial stuff in that game. Then I kicked him off to play some KOFXIII with my friend :bow Japanese gaming :bow2
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 16, 2012, 07:34:36 AM
should I give Crush a try? It sounds awesome

edit: shit it's by Kuju? I loved Battalion Wars. Will pir8
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 16, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
should I give Crush a try? It sounds awesome

edit: shit it's by Kuju? I loved Battalion Wars. Will pir8

You can probably find a copy of Crush for like $2 nowadays :P It's a lot of fun, just mute the volume when you play!
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 16, 2012, 08:50:07 AM
will try and find it in a bargain bin soon. If nothing comes up, pir8 time

You guys would not believe how poor I am  :( unemployment is a nightmare
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 16, 2012, 12:12:55 PM
Crush was $5 on PSN a month or so ago.  Don't know when it'll go on sale again.

Sega should really put Crush on XBLA/PSN/Steam or even iOS.  Same for a lot of PSP games like GTA Chinatown Wars.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 16, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Crush was $5 on PSN a month or so ago.  Don't know when it'll go on sale again.

Sega should really put Crush on XBLA/PSN/Steam or even iOS.  Same for a lot of PSP games like GTA Chinatown Wars.

I thought I heard something about Crush getting an XBLA release?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: demi on April 16, 2012, 01:25:14 PM
will try and find it in a bargain bin soon. If nothing comes up, pir8 time

You guys would not believe how poor I am  :( unemployment is a nightmare

It's ok if you pirate it. But you need to return the favor if you enjoy it.

Like you see in the scene nfo's - "If you enjoy this game, BUY IT"
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: chronovore on April 17, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
Didn't Fish also make a huge stink about Super Meat Boy being up for that indie award since Team Meat had an XBLA partnership and got it removed from the running?
Ah, right you are. 

There really are too many instances of Phil Fish being a dick to list in any one post.

Where is this documented? When I use my meager google powers, I don't see anything about it.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Bebpo on April 17, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
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I won't be buying it (dislike Fish, dislike buggy games, dislike arty-farty games, this is too many things I dislike converging), but that's just me.

The big problem with the indie scene is there's not many people i look at in the scene and feel inspired by.

Minter i guess is up there but the rest just seem like a complete shower of c*nts. Blow's a c*nt, Fish is a c*nt, Notch is odd... if we then branch into iOS land we've got a whole hornets nest of c*ntage - Zynga, Zynga and not forgetting massive industry tw*ts Zynga.

<oldendaysvoice>When i were a lad</oldendaysvoice> we had Brabben, Bell (both c*nts apparently!), Crawford (apparently a c*nt), Stamper brothers (both c*nts) and Braybrook (really nice!)

... oh wait... well at least Braybrook was nice... oh now wait - he went into finance industry IT ... set mark down for "c*nt!"

I've never understood Minter.  Sure he may be a cool guy and Tempest was a cool game, but I played his more recent XBLA stuff and his iOS stuff and the games really don't seem very good.  Psychedelic?  Sure.  But fun, deep games that you want to keep playing?  Ehhh....
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: demi on April 17, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
Incoming rabid Gazunta
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 17, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
Jeff Minter did Ancipital, he can make whatever the fuck he wants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLGsodeeW3c
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Momo on April 17, 2012, 02:01:48 PM
geoff crammond rips most other single person developed efforts a new asshole
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 17, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Agreed on Minter being able to do whatever the fuck he wants, I'll buy it
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Gazunta on April 17, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
I was going to post a rabid response but Oscar, Owl, Momo and ShoNuff have delivered so much truth already I need say nothing.

Oh wait damn it
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Bebpo on April 17, 2012, 05:40:58 PM
Explain GoatUp
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2012, 05:42:22 AM
GiantBomb just spend the last 35 mins talking about this game. I've never felt as disconnected to the show as today.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: The Sceneman on April 18, 2012, 05:50:11 AM
I was going to post a rabid response but Oscar, Owl, Momo and ShoNuff have delivered so much truth already I need say nothing.

Oh wait damn it

The Bore Tells It™
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: tiesto on April 18, 2012, 09:13:38 AM
Minter is amazing, he needs to make a game about boars next...

Had the pleasure of meeting Minter at E3 2006 and snapped a pic with him (unfortunately I don't have it anymore :( )
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 18, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
is this game good
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2012, 11:03:22 AM
no
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Robo on April 18, 2012, 11:22:34 AM
I like it.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 18, 2012, 11:31:40 AM
Yesterday's Giantbombcast makes me want to give FEZ a try but that demo.......soooo boring

I don't know if I'd have the patience to try to decipher this stuff anyway.  I've got plenty of real shit to do around here rather than trying to figure out some obscure biblical text from a cartoon marshmallow. 
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 18, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
Fez is #1 on XBLA

http://majornelson.com/2012/04/17/live-activity-for-week-of-april-9th/

:patel
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Timber on April 18, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
The top 4 indie games are Minecraft clones.  :-\

Minecraft's gonna make bank on XBOX.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Huff on April 18, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
Bombcast really makes me want to try it. Too bad I don't have a working 360 right now.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
no

Says the guy who thought it was brilliant based off a trailer.


It is what it is. It's not for everybody. It's not shit. It's kinda interesting.  It's probably not 10 out of 10. I could easily see someone really digging it or someone not being into it. But its pretty lame to make definitive calls like that. But then I guess everybody likes to knee jerk to extreme positions nowadays.

Jeff has a reasonable position on the game. I think he gave it like 4 out 5 in his review. But despite what he said on that bombcast I still think it comes down to whether you were interested after the trial. If you were then give it a go. It's only $10 which ain't a thing unless you are poor. IF you didn't like the trial then its reasonable to pass on it. Because despite whatever mysteries the game may hold its still ultimately a puzzle platformer where the gimmick is you can spin the world.

Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2012, 10:02:13 PM
The trailer looked cool, but actually playing it isn't that fun to me, but it could have been a bad demo?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
From what I understand, surface level the game is "puzzle/platformer collect cubes."  Then there's another dimension to it where solving riddles to get another set of collectibles, or something.  Like the stars in Braid SUPERCHARGED.

Both parts sound cool.  I'll get it eventually.

I couldn't listen to the bombcast because it reminded me of how most games media respond to these indie games (FEZFEZFEZFEZ).  Last year was all BASTIONBASTIONBASTION.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2012, 11:03:35 PM
The trailer looked cool, but actually playing it isn't that fun to me, but it could have been a bad demo?

Well everybody is different. I only really like to make definitive statements about games if I really have very strong and clear cut reasons about the dislike. I just kinda get tired of hate for hate sakes. Yeah the dude is an idiot and said some idiot things. That doesn't mean a person in turn has to be a childish dick and reflexively hate on something to be a cool kid. Not necessarily aimed at you but I'll be honest and say I think a lot of that goes on for lots of things.

I'm not trying to sell anyone on Fez. It's very feasible that someone could play it and have legit issues with it. I'd just prefer to hear that than a sort of let's be haters because he's a hater on something.

As Linkzg mentioned I thought Bastion was a bit over-rated last year. I didn't quite get all the praise even though I finished it. I mean I liked it and thought it was a good game but I didn't think it warranted the level of praise it got. I certainly could see somebody having that opinion toward FEZ. I do think reviewers tend to over-rate anything they think is different from the "mainstream". Something can be over-rated and still not be shit though.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 19, 2012, 12:50:03 AM
I finished CRUSH and this is so so so boring.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2012, 12:56:26 AM
I guess my expectations got in the way by even comparing it to Crush to begin with?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 19, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
So the verdict on this is 'not as good if you've played some other game that's been out for years' then. Not exactly a rave review from The Bore but at least it's the truth unlike what pretty much everyone else is saying. :tophat
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 19, 2012, 01:47:32 PM
Basically

Crush = Masterful level designs and puzzles that donkey punch your brain
Fez = Slow, quaint
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 19, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
crush is ugly tho. like anything in life, ugly=worthless.

Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 19, 2012, 02:16:17 PM
(http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/images/EleanorRoosevelt.jpg)

Oh, so?
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on April 19, 2012, 02:18:33 PM
made my point for me. thx.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Baiano19 on April 21, 2012, 11:48:33 AM
Didn't expected to enter in a fez thread and leave wanting to buy crush... I played the 3Ds demo and though it was just okish.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: T-Short on April 23, 2012, 07:49:19 AM
Spectrograph output from the Fez soundtrack:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/85a9hmfaiezis28/bSmFn3aZjs#/ (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/85a9hmfaiezis28/bSmFn3aZjs#/)
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: Trent Dole on April 23, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
Spectrograph output from the Fez soundtrack:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/85a9hmfaiezis28/bSmFn3aZjs#/ (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/85a9hmfaiezis28/bSmFn3aZjs#/)
That sort of thing's been done before but never for an entire collection of pieces I don't think. Most pretentious game ever? Seems so!
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2016, 09:51:49 AM
Always on the pulse of the hottest current events, I bought it today.

It's charming and relaxing. The primary goal (collect cubes) is not terribly hard so far though the jumping is sometimes a bit finicky for the small platforms but I'm only... I dunno ?.. A quarter of the game in ? The game hints at secrets and shit, with yet cryptic treasure maps. Nice, but will see if that holds my attention over several sessions. The hardest thing for me today with games is to care, I just can't be bothered by my toys anymore, I guess.
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: brob on August 15, 2016, 07:33:36 PM
fez is pretty chill throughout, it's nice. the cryptic shit stays cryptic tho, so u really gotta put on your carehat if u are gonna do anything there
Title: Re: FEZ
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2016, 10:05:40 PM
Always on the pulse of the hottest current events, I bought it today.

It's charming and relaxing. The primary goal (collect cubes) is not terribly hard so far though the jumping is sometimes a bit finicky for the small platforms but I'm only... I dunno ?.. A quarter of the game in ? The game hints at secrets and shit, with yet cryptic treasure maps. Nice, but will see if that holds my attention over several sessions. The hardest thing for me today with games is to care, I just can't be bothered by my toys anymore, I guess.
Now I can't even see the game without thinking of Phil Fish and feeling triggered, but I hope you enjoy your LTTP bliss-generator.