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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: FatalT on February 20, 2008, 09:30:42 PM

Title: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: FatalT on February 20, 2008, 09:30:42 PM
At the start of their GDC conference MS played the GoldenEye Bond music and now X Box World is slowly releasing parts of a surprise game release:

(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2856/itcouldbegoldeneye800pxpr4.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sionyboy/randomshop/moargoldeneyez.jpg)

NOM NOM NOM!

Or...

Overrated trash.

YOU DECIDE!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Sceneman on February 20, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Overrated trash.   :-X

I agree

game is dogshit except for the amazing midi music
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 20, 2008, 09:35:22 PM
Overrated trash.   :-X

.

Nostalgia FTL
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: drew on February 20, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
This is a huge disappointment.

I thought this was going to be Cool Boarders 5  :'(
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TVC15 on February 20, 2008, 09:38:36 PM
"We have the best lineup of FPSes in console history, lets muddy that up by porting a subpar one that would be forgotten by now except it appeared on one of, if not the worst, mainstream consoles in history"

Stop exaggerating.  The GC is significantly worse than the N64.  At least the N64 had a few good games for the time.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2008, 09:40:20 PM
:bow Xbox 360 :bow

Proving something for everyone since 2005
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: drew on February 20, 2008, 09:40:39 PM
N64 was incredible if you were a kid.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and had friends  8)
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Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2008, 09:43:24 PM
N64 was pretty cool for multiplayer games.  I even got a female cousin and my little sister to play this Descent-like game with me.  I forgot what it's called though.  
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 20, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
G :-X ldenEye

I had a roommate who paid $70 for an imported N64 controller that was metallic gold. So it could be the "Golden Gun" for GoldenEye. ::)
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 20, 2008, 09:49:36 PM
The GC is significantly worse than the N64.  At least the N64 had a few good games for the time.

:bow
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 20, 2008, 09:51:52 PM
You're either lying or a fool if you say you didn't like multiplayer Goldeneye back in 1997.

However, I wouldn't buy it now.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TVC15 on February 20, 2008, 09:53:39 PM
You're either lying or a fool if you say you didn't like multiplayer Goldeneye back in 1997.

However, I wouldn't buy it now.

Either lying, a fool, or had a decent PC.  Quake 2 shit all over Goldeneye.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2008, 09:54:14 PM
You're either lying or a fool if you say you didn't like multiplayer Goldeneye back in 1997.


Or you could have been gaming on a PC.  Even at launch, Goldeneye was considered primitive by PC FPS standards of that era.  

edit: damn, beaten by TVC!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Solo on February 20, 2008, 09:54:17 PM
Game rocked my socks from 97-99. Most fun offline MP game ever. Sadly, it doesnt hold up even remotely.

Whitey, vanilla Q2 MP sucked balls. MODS, however, make your statement true. Action Quake 2 = simply the greatest mod ever made.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: bork on February 20, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
LOL N64.  Almost (all but like two) all my friends were smart enough to see that the Playstation and Saturn were superior.  But the N64 was good for Goldeneye multiplayer back then.  That was fun for like six months.

The store I worked made a killing off game-starved N64 fans.  I remember we Japanese Mario Kart 64 games with a special black and grey controller ( :o :o :o ::)) that sold for around $250.  TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS FOR A FUCKING N64 GAME AND CONTROLLER.  I think we got like 20 copies...we sold out of every one within a few days.   :lol
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 20, 2008, 09:58:49 PM
oh man I found one of those used in Japan for 2000 yen and flipped it for $150 even in like 2002
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 20, 2008, 09:59:53 PM
I don't like FPSs, but I remember seeing a ton of people in high school, people who otherwise didn't care for the N64 get one for GE. Possibly even a bigger system seller than Mario 64 in some ways.

"We have the best lineup of FPSes in console history, lets muddy that up by porting a subpar one that would be forgotten by now except it appeared on one of, if not the worst, mainstream consoles in history"

Stop exaggerating.  The GC is significantly worse than the N64.  At least the N64 had a few good games for the time.

:bow :bow

Though, I don't think GC would be considered a mainstream console.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: drohne on February 20, 2008, 10:02:54 PM
nom nom nom! goldeneye's style is still somewhat unique, and pd0's few good moments convinced me that it would still be fun. it's worth saving from the oblivion of first-gen 3d
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 20, 2008, 10:03:43 PM
Golden Eye is good times.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2008, 10:04:46 PM
Any of you remember that N64 game that was very much like Descent?  I think it was from Acclaim. 
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 20, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
Any of you remember that N64 game that was very much like Descent?  I think it was from Acclaim. 

Turok?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TVC15 on February 20, 2008, 10:06:45 PM
Forsaken.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 20, 2008, 10:09:40 PM
Forsaken.

Yeah, that's it.  It had a pretty fun multiplayer mode. 
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 20, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
Forsaken.

Forsaken had a great ad
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 20, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
N64 :bow :bow

But Goldeneye is nigh unplayable now.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 20, 2008, 10:22:19 PM
I wonder if they're using the PDZ engine for the game.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 20, 2008, 10:29:23 PM
I might check this out if they do some cool shit to it.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2008, 02:24:12 PM
The whole thing is bogus, Xbox 360 World is just doing a report on how its cancelled.  It's not coming out.  Dreams crushed.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 02:25:21 PM
Goldeneye sux lol

and GC > N64

Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 02:37:04 PM
Horrible boring game
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 02:38:07 PM
The GC is significantly worse than the N64.  At least the N64 had a few good games for the time.

:bow

Thats a load of shit, gamecube was a much better system and had better games than the Nshitty4
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2008, 02:38:56 PM
I totally disagree.  GameCube was a wasteland.  The N64 had some great games and local multiplayer.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 02:39:57 PM
N64 had Rare.

enough said.

if it wasn't for capcom's support, gamecube would have been a total, absolute failure.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2008, 02:40:58 PM
The above two posts are correct.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2008, 02:45:25 PM
Also, almost anything EAD pumped out during the 64-bit era was ahead of the curve, extremely well polished for the time period and usually a great deal of fun.  EAD really regressed with the GameCube.  It's hard to think of any Nintendo property that was more interesting and/or entertaining on the GameCube than it was on the N64 (save for maybe the non-existant Metroid Prime).

I think MAF digs the GameCube because he doesn't really care for Nintendo's first-party offerings.  If you're a fan of Nintendo, you probably dug the hell out of the N64.  If you weren't - well, it really didn't have much to offer.  I could see how the GameCube might be more appealing.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 02:46:38 PM
I think I dug the gamecube CAUSE I FUCKING LIKE THE 14 GAMES I OWN FOR IT MORE THAN WARGODS GOD DAMNIT STUPID FUCKS

Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
Rare sucks. They've only made one good game and that's Viva Pinata.

N64 had Mario 64, OoT, Majora's Mask, Sin and Punishment, and...Mischief Makers. lol Wargods

GC had Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, F-zero GX, and a slew of Dreamcast ports

Mario Sunshine > Mario 64
Wind Waker > OoT
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
Who even liked Wargods?

You like the GameCube because you don't like Nintendo, and at least the GameCube had some decent third-party support.  I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that the games Nintendo churned out during the purple handled era were better than any of their N64 offerings.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 21, 2008, 02:49:50 PM
I think I dug the gamecube CAUSE I FUCKING LIKE THE 14 GAMES I OWN FOR IT MORE THAN WARGODS GOD DAMNIT STUPID FUCKS



What about Mace?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2008, 02:50:05 PM
DOOM SIXTY-FOUR!!!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 02:51:53 PM
Who even liked Wargods?

You like the GameCube because you don't like Nintendo, and at least the GameCube had some decent third-party support.  I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that the games Nintendo churned out during the purple handled era were better than any of their N64 offerings.

I liked Sunshine more than Mario 64 and Wind Waker was a lot funner than OoT to me
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
sunshine  :yuck
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 21, 2008, 02:53:07 PM
n64 was awesome simply because every N64 title was something 64 just like every SNES game was Super something.  
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TVC15 on February 21, 2008, 02:57:48 PM
WarGods >>> Smash Bros
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 03:02:30 PM
Gamecube > N64
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 21, 2008, 03:03:31 PM
Tvc, did you like Mace?


(http://n64media.ign.com/media/images/previews/mace16_640w.jpg)

Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Bloodwake on February 21, 2008, 03:05:50 PM
I'm excited about the Goldeneye XBLA release, but seriously, this is what needs to happen:

If this game is to be released, the controls HAVE TO BE REVAMPED. Absolutely have to. Goldeneye was good for its time but it will fail immediately in today. I can't even get it to control right with an emulator and a PS2 controller.

Work needs to be done.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 03:07:49 PM
Gamecube > N64
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2lj6h68.jpg)
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f286/enzom21/medium_2281185497_34b4e61808_o.jpg)
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 21, 2008, 03:18:01 PM
I'm excited about the Goldeneye XBLA release, but seriously, this is what needs to happen:

If this game is to be released, the controls HAVE TO BE REVAMPED. Absolutely have to. Goldeneye was good for its time but it will fail immediately in today. I can't even get it to control right with an emulator and a PS2 controller.

Work needs to be done.
it controlled perfectly using the N64 controller.  There's absolutely no reason to buy this though if you have the original game and an N64 or if you have it on an emulator.  It would obviously have online play but what's the point of 4 player deathmatch?  any more players than that and it'll get too crowded.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 03:24:37 PM
n64 was the worst console i have had the opportunity to own
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Robo on February 21, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
it controlled perfectly using the N64 controller.  There's absolutely no reason to buy this though if you have the original game and an N64 or if you have it on an emulator.  It would obviously have online play but what's the point of 4 player deathmatch?  any more players than that and it'll get too crowded.

 :dizzy
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: tiesto on February 21, 2008, 03:31:56 PM
Yeah, I definitely preferred the GC to N64... GC at least had some good RPGs and 3rd party offerings, even if its first party stuff wasn't quite up to snuff. N64 was a third party wasteland, and the best N64 game never came to the states until the VC.

Goldeneye wasn't that great back then (especially since I played a number PC FPSes before), I could imagine it being nigh unplayable today.

I still reckon the worst console I own is Xbox 1.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 03:33:49 PM
how is xbox 1 the worst console you own? it had lot more to offer than n64!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 21, 2008, 03:35:51 PM
Who even liked Wargods?

You like the GameCube because you don't like Nintendo, and at least the GameCube had some decent third-party support.  I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that the games Nintendo churned out during the purple handled era were better than any of their N64 offerings.

Yeah, seriously. The way I always thought about it, was that I could get whatever third party games on the Sony machine. Nintendo distinguished itself by its awesome first party games. And what's a Nintendo system without any good first party games?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Gamecube lolz
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Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 03:36:57 PM
Who even liked Wargods?

You like the GameCube because you don't like Nintendo, and at least the GameCube had some decent third-party support.  I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that the games Nintendo churned out during the purple handled era were better than any of their N64 offerings.

Yeah, seriously. The way I always thought about it, was that I could get whatever third party games on the Sony machine. Nintendo distinguished itself by its awesome first party games. And what's a Nintendo system without any good first party games?

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Gamecube lolz
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excatly.

himu and tiesto are just silly rpg whores.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 21, 2008, 03:38:21 PM
it controlled perfectly using the N64 controller.  There's absolutely no reason to buy this though if you have the original game and an N64 or if you have it on an emulator.  It would obviously have online play but what's the point of 4 player deathmatch?  any more players than that and it'll get too crowded.

 :dizzy
*shrug* I loved it for that game.  The levels and AI were designed around it.  I can go through a couple of the levels with everything turned up (except for enemy health) all the way on 007 difficulty and not get hit a single time.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: y2kev on February 21, 2008, 03:41:08 PM
N64 > GC :D

AIDYN CHRONICLES: THE FIRST MAGE > TALES OF SYMPHONIA ANIMU GARBAGE
SM64 > SMS
OCARINA > WIND WAKER
NO METROID > METROID PRIME

Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 21, 2008, 03:51:51 PM
the Mario Sunshine hate baffles me to this day.  It was one of the very few top-tier platform games to come out last gen, heck, maybe even the best one.  There were a lot of GCN games that could be safely considered a wash, Mario Sunshine I wouldn't place in that category.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: T234 on February 21, 2008, 03:54:54 PM
Yeah, I definitely preferred the GC to N64... GC at least had some good RPGs and 3rd party offerings, even if its first party stuff wasn't quite up to snuff. N64 was a third party wasteland, and the best N64 game never came to the states until the VC.

Goldeneye wasn't that great back then (especially since I played a number PC FPSes before), I could imagine it being nigh unplayable today.

I still reckon the worst console I own is Xbox 1.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE OTHER CONSOLE YOU OWNED, A SEGA PICO?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 04:03:44 PM
the Mario Sunshine hate baffles me to this day.  It was one of the very few top-tier platform games to come out last gen, heck, maybe even the best one.  There were a lot of GCN games that could be safely considered a wash, Mario Sunshine I wouldn't place in that category.
it was fine on it's own but trash when compared to 64.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Beezy on February 21, 2008, 04:13:37 PM
Rare sucks. They've only made one good game and that's Viva Pinata.

N64 had Mario 64, OoT, Majora's Mask, Sin and Punishment, and...Mischief Makers. lol Wargods

GC had Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, F-zero GX, and a slew of Dreamcast ports

Mario Sunshine > Mario 64
Wind Waker > OoT
Majora's Mask + OoT> Wind Waker
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 04:17:25 PM
VP is good but it's not the only good rare game.

DK1+2+ maybe 3 lol, banjo 1 (didn't like 2 much), conker, jet force gemini, PD, goldeneye, kameo and whatever i missed.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: tiesto on February 21, 2008, 04:22:04 PM
Yeah, I definitely preferred the GC to N64... GC at least had some good RPGs and 3rd party offerings, even if its first party stuff wasn't quite up to snuff. N64 was a third party wasteland, and the best N64 game never came to the states until the VC.

Goldeneye wasn't that great back then (especially since I played a number PC FPSes before), I could imagine it being nigh unplayable today.

I still reckon the worst console I own is Xbox 1.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE OTHER CONSOLE YOU OWNED, A SEGA PICO?

I own nearly all of the famous consoles (apart from SEGA CD and PS3), I just didn't really find much to like on Xbox 1 outside of the SEGA games, Halo series, the online-enabled 2D fighters, and a couple of the superior multiplatform titles. I didn't like any of the Xbox 1 RPGs either :(
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Sceneman on February 21, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
ahhh its another one of these N64 vs GC threads

how anyone can argue that N64 beats GC is totally beyond me

Gamecube has some awesome games on it

RE4, Killer 7, Pikmin, REmake, F-Zero GX, Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Baten Kaitos, BATEN KAITOS ORIGINS, Paper Mario 2

all fucking fantastic

N64 has... F-Zero X, Mischief Makers, Conker..... ummmm.... uhhhhh.... Buck Bumble

GC>>>>>>N64
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 21, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
That's a fucking horrible N64 list.  At least mention, you know, the GOOD games.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Rman on February 21, 2008, 04:40:56 PM
I think the GC was stronger due to capcom goodness.  I had fun times with local multiplayer on the n64, though. 
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Sceneman on February 21, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
That's a fucking horrible N64 list.  At least mention, you know, the GOOD games.

enlighten me as to what these games are bro (and I wont accept Macarena of Time and Majoras Mask, becuase theyre shit)
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 21, 2008, 05:21:43 PM
If I had to go back right now and replay the games on the N64 vs the Gamecube, I'd probably side with the GC 'cause the games were definitely more polished and there's a lot more of 'em BUT if I based my decision purely off of nostalgia I'd say the N64 was the better system 'cause I just had a shit ton of fun with that thing.  I was genuinely excited everytime I bought a new game for it...or at least for the first couple of years and seriously, those nights in the dorm drinking beer after beer with all my friends while playing Goldeneye is probably some of the best times I've ever had playing videogames.  I hardly ever touched my GC.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 05:39:55 PM

himu and tiesto are just silly rpg whores.

i dont' own any rpgs for gc except skies of arcadia and i already own that on the dc wtf
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
the Mario Sunshine hate baffles me to this day.  It was one of the very few top-tier platform games to come out last gen, heck, maybe even the best one.  There were a lot of GCN games that could be safely considered a wash, Mario Sunshine I wouldn't place in that category.

The difference is that Mario used to be - without question - the best in platorming.  Sonic kids muddy that up a little bit, but they're full of shit.

Mario64 was the undisputed king of 32/64 bit platforming.  All SMS could muster was becoming "arguably" the best platformer of last gen.

Mario 64 isn't the best platformer of 32/64 bit gaming. Klonoa is better, Abe's Odyssee is better, Rayman 1 and 2 are better. Mario 64 is overrated garbage.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
boobobob nostalgia me retardo like m64 no reason good OMG OMG *thumb goes up butt*
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Sceneman on February 21, 2008, 06:04:58 PM
nah MAfs post was more on point
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 06:05:30 PM
That game has some of the most boring level design in a highly praised game I've ever seen. Then again I played the like 8 years after it came out.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
That game has some of the most boring level design in a highly praised game I've ever seen. Then again I played the like 8 years after it came out.
Mario 64 level variety is enough to kill sunshine. 
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 21, 2008, 06:10:51 PM
nah MAfs post was more on point

The nostalgia argument only works when the system you're arguing against DOESN'T have better games than the one you're supporting.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 06:10:59 PM
What level variety? GO GET THIS COIN! Level is so small it will take 2-3 minutes to complete. Rinse repeat.

Sunshine has brushing a giant eel's teeth, and amputating a giant squid. 64's level variety sucks. You essentially do the same thing every level and the level designs suck balls aside from like the last 3-4 levels (clock level, giant mountain level, flying carpet level)

mario 64 ruined platformers forever. go get this, go get that zzz
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 06:16:54 PM
i was talking about the different "look" of the levels, not the missions themselves.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 06:32:25 PM
sunshine's gameplay? sure about that?

fludd was like the only power you had and cleaning levels sure doesn't get boring!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 06:45:12 PM
i was talking about the different "look" of the levels, not the missions themselves.

I don't understand why nintendo fans always bring this excuse up. Every single mario ever has the sand level, the ice level, the water level, the fire level, the sky level. What is wrong with variety? Oh wait, nintendo fans want the same game over and over.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 21, 2008, 06:46:08 PM
they all have asperger's and are proud of it
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 06:47:50 PM
Sunshine was a fantastic game...but that being so doesn't mean Mario 64 is garbage.

Mario 64 isn't garbage, but I don't think it's all that either. I just trash it this much because I always get weird looks and CRIES OF BLASPHEMY when i say i think Sunshine > 64.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 21, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
i was talking about the different "look" of the levels, not the missions themselves.

I don't understand why nintendo fans always bring this excuse up. Every single mario ever has the sand level, the ice level, the water level, the fire level, the sky level. What is wrong with variety? Oh wait, nintendo fans want the same game over and over.


Wait, what?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
himu, you will never learn.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
i was talking about the different "look" of the levels, not the missions themselves.

I don't understand why nintendo fans always bring this excuse up. Every single mario ever has the sand level, the ice level, the water level, the fire level, the sky level. What is wrong with variety? Oh wait, nintendo fans want the same game over and over.


Wait, what?

you heard me
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 21, 2008, 07:17:13 PM
i was talking about the different "look" of the levels, not the missions themselves.

I don't understand why nintendo fans always bring this excuse up. Every single mario ever has the sand level, the ice level, the water level, the fire level, the sky level. What is wrong with variety? Oh wait, nintendo fans want the same game over and over.


Wait, what?

you heard me

Yes, but I didn't understand.

It sounds like you're implying that Sunshine had a variety of levels, but then you're criticizing for wanting the same thing over and over...which is what it seems like you implied Sunshine was doing. *boggle*
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 07:22:43 PM
it had variety in the things you do in the levels; gameplay variety. However, the levels all shared a common thing. You misunderstood me, when I said variety, I mean what's wrong with having a mario that isnt' the same formula we've had for the past 2 decades
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 21, 2008, 08:43:01 PM
N64 > GC :D
AIDYN CHRONICLES: THE FIRST MAGE > TALES OF SYMPHONIA ANIMU GARBAGE
SM64 > SMS
OCARINA > WIND WAKER
NO METROID > METROID PRIME
Windwaker was far funner (not as "innovative" though) than OoT.  I played OoT after finishing windwaker and while it's still playable, it's nowhere near as well designed.  And Metroid Prime is my favorite game ever so I'll leave it at that.
GC was worse than N64 though.

VP is good but it's not the only good rare game.
DK1+2+ maybe 3 lol, banjo 1 (didn't like 2 much), conker, jet force gemini, PD, goldeneye, kameo and whatever i missed.
DK was apparently just a tech demo.  miyamoto actually said it proved that western gamers were willing to play a mediocre collectathon if it looked pretty.  I loved it back when I played it but I'm sure I'd hate it today.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
he said that? what a dick.

because your games ain't the same AMIRITE?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 08:55:44 PM

DK was apparently just a tech demo.  miyamoto actually said it proved that western gamers were willing to play a mediocre collectathon if it looked pretty.  I loved it back when I played it but I'm sure I'd hate it today.

haha another strike against miyamoto
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 21, 2008, 08:58:38 PM
he's not being a dick, he's kind of being honest.  the game was fun but it got a huge amount of sales due to it's graphics.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 09:01:25 PM
only the graphics? come on.

the music alone shits on everything mario related, OH YES I WENT THERE.

fuck it, i am with himu.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 21, 2008, 09:05:57 PM
He was only talking about DK country though.  That wasn't nearly as popular as miyamoto's original barrel jumping or whatever game.  It's easy to understand why he was upset that the main thing being hyped about a sequel/spinoff of his game was it's graphics.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Oblivion on February 21, 2008, 09:09:24 PM
Yeah, it was one of the few instances where I've heard about Miyamoto being pissed off at anyone. It makes it worse considering it was from an ally too. :lol

it had variety in the things you do in the levels; gameplay variety. However, the levels all shared a common thing. You misunderstood me, when I said variety, I mean what's wrong with having a mario that isnt' the same formula we've had for the past 2 decades

The problem with that is that what Sunshine did differently wasn't exactly a breath of fresh air. It took an environment that we've seen in one form or another in Mario games, and platformers in general, and just focused on that. So you have one continuously repetitive gimmick instead of a bunch of them.

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Windwaker was far funner (not as "innovative" though) than OoT.  I played OoT after finishing windwaker and while it's still playable, it's nowhere near as well designed.

Erm...
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 21, 2008, 09:10:22 PM
lol.

i'm not mad, shit is old to talk about anyway.

both Nintendo and Rare deserve credit for making the best platformers of our time.

the golden days, now we are stuck with ummm...ratshit and jax? whatever.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 21, 2008, 09:43:49 PM
I loved Rare's 3D platformers (except DK64), but the Donkey Kong Country series is absolute shit. They've aged horribly, and I can't imagine getting any enjoyment out of them without the influence of nostalgia. I bought DKC2 on VC the other day, and I couldn't believe that I actually liked the game back in the day.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: drew on February 21, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
Mario 64 isn't garbage, but I don't think it's all that either. I just trash it this much because I always get weird looks and CRIES OF BLASPHEMY when i say i think Sunshine > 64.

Let me guess, you didn't play mario 64 back in the day did you? 
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 21, 2008, 11:22:03 PM
Sunshine was a fantastic game...but that being so doesn't mean Mario 64 is garbage.

Mario 64 isn't garbage, but I don't think it's all that either. I just trash it this much because I always get weird looks and CRIES OF BLASPHEMY when i say i think Sunshine > 64.

Well, it is pretty crazy.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 21, 2008, 11:38:27 PM
the n64 is trash. none of its games are playable in this day and age 'cept maybe ogre battle 64. at least the ps2 had a good smattering of 2d and 2d/3d hybrid games to preserve a little of its legacy. the gamecube shouldn't even acknowledge the n64 -- the n64 is possibly lower than the 3do on the ol' "has games playable in 2007" scale.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2008, 11:57:51 PM
Mario 64 isn't garbage, but I don't think it's all that either. I just trash it this much because I always get weird looks and CRIES OF BLASPHEMY when i say i think Sunshine > 64.

Let me guess, you didn't play mario 64 back in the day did you? 

No
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 22, 2008, 12:34:06 AM
Judged based on the time the games were released, the N64 had better games than the GameCube. However 99% of the N64’s library is totally unplayable today. Even a game like Goldeneye, which I loved ten years ago, is unplayable.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Raban on February 22, 2008, 02:27:33 AM
Any more news on this? Has the whole screenshot been released?
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: y2kev on February 22, 2008, 03:35:08 PM
ya, twas released on xcox 360 woild
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 22, 2008, 06:50:39 PM
Judged based on the time the games were released, the N64 had better games than the GameCube. However 99% of the N64’s library is totally unplayable today. Even a game like Goldeneye, which I loved ten years ago, is unplayable.

Yea, really.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: FatalT on February 23, 2008, 12:12:07 AM
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1056/goldeneyesw9.jpg)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=183098&site=xbw
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 23, 2008, 12:14:18 AM
Oh shhiiiii...I changed my mind, I'm getting it now. Those mountains...:heartbeat
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 23, 2008, 01:05:20 AM
I'm pretty sure it isn't coming out.

Yeah, it would be a licensing nightmare. I don't think Microsoft will see it as being worth the trouble.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 23, 2008, 02:31:39 AM
I'm pretty sure it isn't coming out.

Dreams...crushed.  :(

At first when I saw the image, I thought it meant Goldeneye XBLA was going on sale February 27th.  :lol
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 04:32:57 AM
this just shit on my childhood.  it looks just weird now.  at least the old game had the 3D character with horrible faces and whatnot so it was funny.  this is just weird.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 23, 2008, 04:42:06 AM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: etiolate on February 23, 2008, 05:31:18 AM
overrated trash? It's got some of the greatest level design out there.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: GilloD on February 23, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
It looks like a Flash shooter. I hate those "Enhanced" XBLA games, they just look strange. But I would have loved to have ha dthis, if only to continune my reign of PROXIMITY MINE TERROR
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Beezy on February 23, 2008, 11:54:17 AM
It looks like a Flash shooter. I hate those "Enhanced" XBLA games, they just look strange. But I would have loved to have ha dthis, if only to continune my reign of PROXIMITY MINE TERROR
I always stacked proximity mines on top of each other like I'm stacking legos. :lol
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 23, 2008, 11:58:50 AM
If it does come out, it better still have the glitch were you could proxy mine an ammo box, then pick it up to make the mine invisible.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Solo on February 23, 2008, 04:06:32 PM
overrated trash? It's got some of the greatest level design out there.

Agreed.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 04:57:23 PM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Well why make an update to the game if the graphics still look sub-dreamcast?  I mean, fucking spot shadows?  it probably still runs at 30 fps.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 23, 2008, 05:00:13 PM
as long as the the graphics don't hurt the eyes then it's an update to me, considering 99% of N64 games are harmful to the human eyes now i say it's good.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: TVC15 on February 23, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
I think Goldeneye's important contributions to gaming are the great animation (for the time--no idea how it holds up today), it being one of the first games to introduce a fun skeletal damage model, and implementing fun mission objectives, which still wasn't very common at the time.  Outside of Facility in SP, the only levels I can recall are MP, making me think that level design wasn't better or worse than other FPSes at the time.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 23, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Well why make an update to the game if the graphics still look sub-dreamcast?  I mean, fucking spot shadows?  it probably still runs at 30 fps.

It runs at 60 supposedly. Look at the top left corner of the screenshot.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2008, 05:24:40 PM
Even if it did run at 30fps that'd be a massive improvement over the original.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 23, 2008, 05:28:44 PM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Well why make an update to the game if the graphics still look sub-dreamcast?  I mean, fucking spot shadows?  it probably still runs at 30 fps.

It's a XBLA game, not a real retail game.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 23, 2008, 05:51:12 PM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Well why make an update to the game if the graphics still look sub-dreamcast?  I mean, fucking spot shadows?  it probably still runs at 30 fps.

Yeah, why aren't these lazy-ass XBLA developers using the Crysis engine yet? I mean, come on!
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 06:26:08 PM
Dude, you're insane.  I really do wonder if like, you have a special nurse that assists you or something.
Well why make an update to the game if the graphics still look sub-dreamcast?  I mean, fucking spot shadows?  it probably still runs at 30 fps.

It's a XBLA game, not a real retail game.
well I think it would've made more sense if it was:
A. Cel-shaded or stylized in some way.
B. Packed in with Rare's next game or something.  Since most people would probably not buy this.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 23, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
You're stupid and wrong.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 06:43:18 PM
well let's see.  I bet you that if this game actually does get released, it'll bomb.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2008, 06:48:06 PM
You're stupid and wrong.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 08:23:12 PM
well the game will bomb.

badly.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2008, 08:24:05 PM
You're stupid and wrong.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: MCD on February 23, 2008, 08:37:37 PM
stupid and wrong.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Beezy on February 23, 2008, 08:39:58 PM
More nintenho nonsense...
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 23, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
How would GoldenEye bomb on XBLA? :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
wait and see.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 23, 2008, 09:56:07 PM
The original sold over eight million copies. If the remake sells a third as much, it would be considered far from a "bomb".
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 23, 2008, 10:48:04 PM
well the game will bomb.

badly.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what won't happen. At all.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: brawndolicious on February 24, 2008, 04:57:27 AM
you guys are square.  like final fantasy.
Title: Re: GoldenEye XBLA
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 24, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
you guys are square.  like final fantasy.
And I thought I was lame.