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Title: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:14:17 PM
http://blog.gamersweb.it/post/786717/FINAL+FANTASY+13+TO+BE+RELASED+IN+2010
http://www.traders.co.jp/domestic_stocks/domestic_market/wadai.asp

"According to Traders Web, a Japanese business financial news website, Square Enix is going to push back the release of Final Fantasy XIII for Playstation 3 till March 2010. This will allow the PS3 user base to grow."

"Square Enix is going to push back the release of Final Fantasy XIII for Playstation 3 till March 2010."

"Final Fantasy XIII...March 2010."

March 2010

2010

:japancry (placeholder)
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Eric P on February 27, 2008, 07:14:50 PM
are you fucking kidding me?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Powerslave on February 27, 2008, 07:15:17 PM
Epic Fail.

Fuck FF anyway, shitty franchise.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 07:15:37 PM
:japancry
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
FFXIII is such a cluster

DEAR JAPAN: THIS IS WHY YOU LICENSE TOOLS
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 27, 2008, 07:15:50 PM
Fuck that.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Oblivion on February 27, 2008, 07:17:37 PM
Is this shit for real?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:17:44 PM
"Oh, yeah, FFXIII...totally done...finished...we just, want to give Dragon Quest IX, you know...time to breathe. Dragon Quest is an extremely popular franchise, so...two years ought to be enough."
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Rman on February 27, 2008, 07:19:25 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 07:20:12 PM
Can someone find the original info in JP so we can confirm?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Beezy on February 27, 2008, 07:23:56 PM
They're waiting for Nintendo's next system to come out so that they can release FFXIII on it.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: pilonv1 on February 27, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
(http://www.gardenofeden.net/lil/failboat.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: hyp on February 27, 2008, 07:27:50 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 07:33:29 PM
Quote
some gamers on 2channel have already started to compare FF13 to the vapor game king: Gran Turismo for PSP...
:rofl
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2008, 07:35:29 PM
AHUAHUAHUAHUA

:bow :piss Square Enix :piss2 :bow2
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
The reluctance of Japanese Companies to develop for the 360 is going to be the death of them.  It doesn't even make sense financially for Square to release their 3rd rate properties for the 360 while keeping the top titles PS3 exclusive.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:43:38 PM
yeah I just commented to jojo on MSN

the whole renaming the tools/engine seems ominous at this "late" (lol) stage of development

"we are looking into making a version for Wii" is setting the stage for "so I hope you weren't too attached to the idea of FFXIII on PS3, lol"
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:44:53 PM
and so the future that Bebpo predicted 18 months ago has come to pass

NEXT GEN NEVER HAPPENS IN JAPAN
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 07:46:58 PM
no one cares about japan.

what we care about is japanese developers support, as long as they make money in US/EU, then it's all good.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2008, 07:47:21 PM
conversation from 2015:

"why do they call it Final Fantasy when they keep making new ones lol"

"actually, FFXIII was the last one they ever made"

"...oh."
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Oblivion on February 27, 2008, 07:47:39 PM
The reluctance of Japanese Companies to develop for the 360 is going to be the death of them.  It doesn't even make sense financially for Square to release their 3rd rate properties for the 360 while keeping the top titles PS3 exclusive.

Well, realistically speaking, I don't think porting something like FFXIII to the 360 would help much. JRPGs are different beasts on 360 than something like DMC4, RE5, VF5 and whatever else was ported to it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
MGS4
[close]

Also, maybe I'm not getting it, but why does this mean there could be a Wii port involved?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Oblivion on February 27, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
Ah, okay. That makes sense.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 07:52:05 PM
Well...FF13 started life on the PS2...maybe they can port it to the Wii after all.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
conversation from 2015:

"why do they call it Final Fantasy when they keep making new ones lol"

"actually, FFXIII was the last one they ever made"

"...oh."

:rofl
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 08:00:00 PM
The reluctance of Japanese Companies to develop for the 360 is going to be the death of them.  It doesn't even make sense financially for Square to release their 3rd rate properties for the 360 while keeping the top titles PS3 exclusive.

Well, realistically speaking, I don't think porting something like FFXIII to the 360 would help much. JRPGs are different beasts on 360 than something like DMC4, RE5, VF5 and whatever else was ported to it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
MGS4
[close]

Also, maybe I'm not getting it, but why does this mean there could be a Wii port involved?

I've always believed that the gamers will come if you give them what they want.  The "XBOX gamers don't like JRPGS" is kinda a self-fulfilling prophecy, imo.  Japanese devs don't give the Xbox FF therefore the FF fans don't buy a Xbox.  The fact that their far less popular franchises sold or will sell poorly on the Xbox isn't indicative that FF won't sell on a Xbox.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 08:04:36 PM
The problem isn't that FF wouldn't sell on the xbox.  The problem is that FF won't sell xboxes, IMO.  Also, I suspect that moving the lead SKU of one of Japan's most famous franchises to a console made by a non-Japanese company would be a pretty large PR hit and would piss off a looooooot of stockholders.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Mupepe on February 27, 2008, 08:09:08 PM
The problem isn't that FF wouldn't sell on the xbox.  The problem is that FF won't sell xboxes, IMO. 
I think it's quite the opposite.  This market has made so many transitions between leaders each generation that I think it's a very flexible market.  Gamers will go where the games are.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 08:13:47 PM
The problem isn't that FF wouldn't sell on the xbox.  The problem is that FF won't sell xboxes, IMO. 
I think it's quite the opposite.  This market has made so many transitions between leaders each generation that I think it's a very flexible market.  Gamers will go where the games are.

In America they will.  In Japan?  When was the last time a non-Japanese made console was even within striking distance?  Oh yeah, never. :)

As for my earlier comment, I don't doubt that release of FFXIII on 360 would cause the sale of a lot of consoles there... possible 300-400k of them the month the game comes out.  Even with those extra sales and an assumed very high purchase rate among the currently installed user base that would be like, what... 1 million copies sold in Japan over the lifetime of the generation on the lead SKU?  They'd still have to port it to another console to make any sort of financial sense.

Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 08:16:26 PM
Ugh, I just noticed that my point STILL isn't clear.  Basically what I'm trying to say is that I think you could sell more copies of this game on PS3 in Japan if you released it today than 360, if you released it today.  Even this game is not enough to push the JP 360 user base high enough to where it would outsell a PS3 version of the same game.

That said, I agree completely that a multiplatform release is sensible and agreeable to all.  Unfortunately I suspect (as pretty much everyone else does) that SE has some kind of agreement with Sony to prevent this.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 08:17:32 PM
Final Fantasy makes its money outside of Japan  ;)

Indeed it does, but like literally half of it's sales are domestic.  You don't throw away numbers like that.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MrSingh on February 27, 2008, 08:23:59 PM
I bet what happened is that Wada played Bioshock on 360 and went "Oh sh1t!" and sent his entire FFXIII team back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 08:24:43 PM
Of course it would sell more on the ps3 in Japan, no one is doubting that.  Fact is though Japan is a dead territory this gen, and 360 would more than make up for sales in other territories.

Yup, I've said many times before that it didn't matter if PS3 ended up beating the 360 in both Japan and Europe.  Because of how demographics work, their game sales will continue to be crap.  The days of Playstation dominance are over.  
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Mupepe on February 27, 2008, 08:25:30 PM
Of course it would sell more on the ps3 in Japan, no one is doubting that.  Fact is though Japan is a dead territory this gen, and 360 would more than make up for sales in other territories.
Pretty much.  No one is saying make it exclusive and no one in their right mind believes that's even remotely possible.  Just port it.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Valcrist on February 27, 2008, 08:30:44 PM
decade of the PS3 :bow
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 27, 2008, 08:35:26 PM
:gloomy rsx budget gpu :gloomy
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 08:44:11 PM
 :gloomy Cell budget processor for microwaves :gloomy
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on February 27, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Yeah, not sure how we got embroiled in 'real talk'.  The point of this thread is :lol and :japancry
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
uncharted, gt5 and killzone 2 have the best graphics on any console ever.

 :gloomy xenos budget gpu  :gloomy
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
Toshiba owned twice by sony

HD DVD pwnt
and
lol these idiots bought Cell off us

Toshiba : the soon to be proud owners of the PS brand.
not to mention the vapor ware SED tv hahaha.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Oblivion on February 27, 2008, 08:49:46 PM
Looks like it's up to Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2 and LBP to make up for the slack.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 27, 2008, 08:53:53 PM
motorstorm 2 multiplatform

you heard it here first
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 27, 2008, 08:57:08 PM
nothing to see here
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
Don't forget Killzone 2, the next Ratchet game, HOME, Blu-Rays.

Hey, that's my job!   :lol

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=14619.msg347619#msg347619
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 27, 2008, 09:15:26 PM
LO is the 13th Final Fantasy.

Or perhaps the 11th.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: The Sceneman on February 27, 2008, 09:18:12 PM
so when is Hard Target getting a bluray release?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 27, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=18040.msg436706#msg436706

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/Hoffgod/Icalledit.gif)

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 27, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
if they're two years off from now from a final product ever coming out, there's obviously much more going on with FFXIII then mere technical problems, they could be starting the game today and still have plenty enough time to get it all done.  The game has to be undergoing a major, major overhaul.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 09:41:04 PM
"oh so you think they rendered 3 different scenes at various quality? Lol - god you xfags are desperate - all realtime and in game. It even said so at the top of their last presentation"

lol - xfags right again! It's becoming too easy this gen. I almost wish i was a Nintendo fan so i'd have something challenging to get my teeth into.

Sonyfans kneel down facing the Sony/SE cock and swallow every drop of lie piss time after time after time after time...

will they EVER learn?

Can i ask - at GDC, did anyone see the white engine Crystal TOOLS demo? Did they show much? did they show ANYTHING that was running on any hardware??



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9896645&postcount=352
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 27, 2008, 09:44:10 PM
why does anyone give a fuck about final fantasy anyway
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 27, 2008, 09:46:46 PM
now i have to go wash my eyes out with lesbian porn and bleach
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 27, 2008, 09:47:11 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://www.ffshrine.org/ffxii/vaan.jpg)
[close]
:omg
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 09:59:40 PM
:bow Xbot Fud Factory :bow2

:american
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 10:12:08 PM
Right  :american


:piss (http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/94477/ps3-grill_qjgenth.jpg) :piss2
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 27, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
why does anyone give a fuck about final fantasy anyway

the lulz, mostly
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2008, 12:18:43 AM
I hope this game ends up on Wii just for the utter shitstorm it'll cause all over the Internets. I could care less about the FF series at this point... it's all about Mistwalker.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: drohne on February 28, 2008, 01:57:55 AM
a. is this just speculation from 'trader's web,' or did squenix say something to this effect?

b. gaf this
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
Himuro, GAF this
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 28, 2008, 02:43:40 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242224&highlight=2010

locked? hmm...
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 28, 2008, 02:58:03 AM
Wait, is Evilbore the banned site he's talking about? 
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 28, 2008, 03:00:17 AM
Wait, is Evilbore the banned site he's talking about? 
the thread is old so no, it's not EB.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: pilonv1 on February 28, 2008, 03:18:19 AM
Wait, is Evilbore the banned site he's talking about? 

Kotaku used to be banned I think.

:lol Groo
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 28, 2008, 04:14:16 AM
lol analysts
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 28, 2008, 11:24:21 AM
Square-Enix just knows it cant compete in sales during the same year as this awesome ps3 release.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517DV9%2BVceL._AA280_.jpg)

Probably the only awesome PS3 release. MGS games are crapbuckets.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
Himuro, GAF this

Why the fuck should I gaf it? You told me not gaf shit. Fuck you.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 28, 2008, 12:31:08 PM
ha ha reverse psychology
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2008, 01:38:10 PM
Himuro, GAF this

Why the fuck should I gaf it? You told me not gaf shit. Fuck you.

Seems like MAF gets the joke amirite
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: muckson on February 28, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
http://blog.gamersweb.it/post/786717/FINAL+FANTASY+13+TO+BE+RELASED+IN+2010
http://www.traders.co.jp/domestic_stocks/domestic_market/wadai.asp

"According to Traders Web, a Japanese business financial news website, Square Enix is going to push back the release of Final Fantasy XIII for Playstation 3 till March 2010. This will allow the PS3 user base to grow."
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well actually, there is no mention on the traders website of ff13 or sony or ps3 as far as i can tell and i'm searching all over.  maybe i can look around later but i don't think this rumor is real; at least not yet. 

besides, who fucking cares.  it's final fantasy.  it will be good stuff and people will hate it for the sake of hating although a team of hundreds will put thier heart and soul into the making the game.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: muckson on February 28, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
i searched through japanese google and found nothing either.  i think this might be fake. 

does anyone have a japanese link?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 28, 2008, 02:19:27 PM
would SE admit to themselves (never mind anyone else) that the game is two years away even if it were?  in my (limited) working experience, all large software projects are about two months from release at all times.  are there companies with less delusional project management?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: muckson on February 28, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
well until i see something other than heresay i believe this shit is a prank.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: T234 on February 28, 2008, 02:59:35 PM
Yes, you are confusing software development with game development, of which the largest chunk has little to do with programming and everything to do with art assets.
Was that bit in edge true ("it takes weeks to model one car (PGR4)")?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: T234 on February 28, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
Damn. I couldn't imagine going into work for days at a time just modelling goddamn tailights. So much work goes into games nowadays.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 28, 2008, 08:43:37 PM
T234 -

I talked to this animator guy who worked on S.W.A.T once about his daily work. He spent days on end just fiddling with eyebrow movements in in-engine cutscenes. Days.

His hobby was carpentry, which he considered massively fast-paced and exhilarating compared to game design, which he despised and only did for the paycheck. 
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 28, 2008, 08:51:59 PM
Yes, you are confusing software development with game development, of which the largest chunk has little to do with programming and everything to do with art assets.
Was that bit in edge true ("it takes weeks to model one car (PGR4)")?

That's weeks for SEVERAL artists, possibly.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: T234 on February 28, 2008, 09:10:25 PM
Would there be jobs in the games industry for young, talented network engineers?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 28, 2008, 09:25:43 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9987135&postcount=100
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9987178&postcount=114

50 gigs and no dual audio support.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: T234 on February 28, 2008, 09:30:17 PM
Christ almighty good online infrastructure guys are some of the most difficult positions to fill.  You'd be working harder than almost anyone on the team though.
Any advice as far as what to do to prepare for such a job?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: T234 on February 28, 2008, 09:42:16 PM
Christ almighty good online infrastructure guys are some of the most difficult positions to fill.  You'd be working harder than almost anyone on the team though.
Any advice as far as what to do to prepare for such a job?
Don't sleep for several weeks while trying to decipher poorly written bugs that you can reproduce maybe 5 percent of the time.
I meant the qualifications. I already got the dedication and work ethic.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 28, 2008, 09:54:38 PM
I've always believed that the gamers will come if you give them what they want.  The "XBOX gamers don't like JRPGS" is kinda a self-fulfilling prophecy, imo.  Japanese devs don't give the Xbox FF therefore the FF fans don't buy a Xbox.  The fact that their far less popular franchises sold or will sell poorly on the Xbox isn't indicative that FF won't sell on a Xbox.
Samsung recently stopped selling TV's in Japan because nobody in japan would buy them.  Every other manufacturer had better sales than them.

and is there another source for this?  the english site has pretty obvious spelling errors and I had no success trying the japanese site through babelfish.

edit: thank you muckson.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: muckson on February 29, 2008, 12:06:40 AM
b  :) d

you're welcome. 

my wife is home so i'm gonna have her do a search through the internet, which being japanese and speaking the language perfectly, she also has a gift for finding stuff on the internet that most people wouldn't be able to locate.  so let's wait and see.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: CHOW CHOW on February 29, 2008, 04:24:59 AM
So is this basically Xbot Central version 2.0?  This article is bunk.  It's just a random analyst guessing, it's not from Square.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: MCD on February 29, 2008, 04:28:48 AM
So is this basically Xbot Central version 2.0?  This article is bunk.  It's just a random analyst guessing, it's not from Square.
yeah, the article is false.

and you are right, we are mostly xfags here but we welcome all.
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 29, 2008, 04:30:35 AM
Evilbore:No Country for Sfags
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 29, 2008, 04:47:36 AM
So is this basically Xbot Central version 2.0?  This article is bunk.  It's just a random analyst guessing, it's not from Square.

Everybody loves a winner, baby!
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 29, 2008, 04:52:42 AM
FF13 Cancelled?  Aren't they just porting it to another system?
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 29, 2008, 07:02:41 AM
oh that reminds me, that GAF thread about the supposed DQ9-induced FF13 delay was bullshit.  they somehow translated "it doesn't matter whether we release FF13 and DQ9 in the same year or not, because we bought Taito to give us a steady source of income" to "we can't release FF13 and DQ9 in the same year"
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 29, 2008, 04:02:15 PM
This game has a dev cost of millions of dollars lol, for what? Pretty movies and graphics? Why not scrap the entire project and release the game on the Wii. SE could squeeze decent graphics out of the Wii, and it's not like the gameplay will suffer: now you can point your gambits and go get a drink

i bet they'd make a bunch of profit off that
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: y2kev on February 29, 2008, 04:06:05 PM
Who gives a shit about SE

give me HD prettiness

fuck cheap companies. dcharlie knows the pain of capcom cheaping out (MH3).
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 29, 2008, 06:41:28 PM
Quote
This game has a dev cost of millions of dollars lol

drevil_onemillion.gif
Title: Re: 2010 = Year of the PS3
Post by: Trent Dole on February 29, 2008, 10:37:23 PM
all games have a dev cost of millions of dollars now.  smh.

Crusin wii had the dev costs of about 2 million.

Shit is expensive

Are you serious?  :lol