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Title: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 01:07:10 AM
1)  Alan Moore:

(http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Alanportrait-1.article_0.jpg)

Practising magician and occultist; worships a Roman snake-deity named Glycon.

2) Grant Morrison:

(http://www.wackyjac.com/boudoir/gallery/grant/grant%20nood.jpg)

Practitioner of Erisian chaos magic.

Of course, Morrison is the better comics writer, but who's the better magician?  I vote for Grant since he actually used chaos magic to save The Invisibles from cancellation.  Plus check out the dong.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Eric P on March 08, 2008, 01:09:42 AM
i had never seen that picture of him

it's kind of scary

did you ever see the speech he gave at the disinfo conference?

[youtube=425,350]5gHOh4Cgkn0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 01:12:42 AM
Man I wish I did as many drugs as Grant :(
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Eric P on March 08, 2008, 01:14:00 AM
heh.

i need a career where that's a benefit instead of a hindrance to productivity
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 08, 2008, 01:30:46 AM
did that bald dude have a C-section or something?

I choose Alan Moore, because I am genuinely afraid of him.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 08, 2008, 01:54:02 AM
Alan Moore looks like he would just flat out fucking kill you if crossed him. With his beard.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2008, 02:06:07 AM
Grant Morrison has great overall concepts, but he often mars them with a sloppy execution.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 02:10:32 AM
I disagree.  I could probably count the number of times Grant has fucked something up on one hand.  Not so for Mr. Moore.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Powerslave on March 08, 2008, 02:16:24 AM
What's wrong with that guy's torso
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2008, 02:37:26 AM
I disagree.  I could probably count the number of times Grant has fucked something up on one hand.  Not so for Mr. Moore.

Have you read his Justice League run?  That's a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.  It feels very sloppy.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 02:51:53 AM
I thought people liked that?  I am no judge on that since I have never read Justice League.  I'm not terribly huge on gay superhero shit.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2008, 03:16:10 AM
People do like it and I'm not saying it's bad, just sloppy.  Like he blew his load coming up with an awesome idea and basic plot and then was on auto-pilot for the rest of the storytelling process.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 03:30:42 AM
And for every misstep he's made, Alan Moore has probably made one even more egregious.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2008, 03:36:57 AM
Except when Alan Moore is "on," he's far better than Morrison could ever hope to be.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 08, 2008, 04:10:25 AM
Moore and Morrison are both great. There's no reason to fight, children.

I'd argue that We3 is as good as Watchmen, though not as influencial.

I'd also argue that Moore is way, way better at fucking shit up. Promethea? Tom Strong? Hell, even Black Dossier sucked.

Morrison hits at least a solid triple almost every at bat. He's the better comics writer.

But Moore's the better magician. FACT.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 04:12:52 AM
But Moore's the better magician. FACT.

Has Moore ever used magic to SAVE A COMIC?
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 08, 2008, 04:13:43 AM
no, but he's probably used it to get laid on more than one occasion
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: TVC15 on March 08, 2008, 04:16:00 AM
no, but he's probably used it to get laid on more than one occasion

Yes, but Grant has apparently used magick to increase the size of his scottish member.
Title: Re: Best magician/evil pagan in the realm of comics?
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2008, 04:53:07 AM
I loved Tom Strong, and Moore's work on Supreme is amazing.  Anytime Moore does Superman-type characters, he knocks it outta the park.