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Title: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 06:30:35 AM

So I just got a new MacBook and I'm looking to buy a copy of Windows for dual booting.  There's only a few things I really will need Windows for, and the rest is just for some light gaming (mainly emulators).  I'd really just like to stick with XP, but would Vista also be adequate for this purpose?  I've heard so many vomit-inducing stories about Vista that I don't know what to do.  A friend told me that my computer is probably powerful enough to handle Vista without any real headaches, but I don't know.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 09, 2008, 06:35:20 AM

XP XP XP

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 07:29:06 AM

march 20, vista sp1.

time to move on.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 08:38:07 AM

XP is still the champ, then?

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 07:29:06 AM

march 20, vista sp1.

time to move on.

But I would only be using Windows sparingly.  Move on?  I did that...I moved right onto the better Mac OS X.   :D

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 08:47:42 AM

 :maf

lol, it's your call, i still hate XP sp2 because every time i reformat i have to let it download updates.

which is why i am waiting for vista sp1, and with my new pc and lcd monitor, it will look goooood.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 08:49:24 AM

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 08:47:42 AM

:maf

lol, it's your call, i still hate XP sp2 because every time i reformat i have to let it download updates.

which is why i am waiting for vista sp1, and with my new pc and lcd monitor, it will look goooood.

Is Vista a big resource hog?  Would my 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gb RAM MacBook run it just fine?  And are most of the issues worked out with SP1?  I'm still undecided, but I mean Patel did say "XP" three times, so that's gotta mean XP is still the shit.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 08:58:40 AM

well, here are the system requirements:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/systemrequirements.mspx

i figure it would run fine and here is sp1 changelog:

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071208/vista-sp1-changelog/

maf can tell you more from here.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 10:02:15 AM

Am I reading that MS page wrong, or does Vista take 15gb of space to install?  That's a bit much since I only want to give Windows around 32gb or so of space.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 10:05:17 AM

yes it does.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 11:41:08 AM

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 10:05:17 AM

yes it does.

XP it is!

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 09, 2008, 12:56:44 PM

vista is fine, if you have issues with 15 gigs of space you need a bigger drive, honestly lulz. I use both vista and XP at work, and going back to XP feels so ghetto

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: pilonv1 on March 09, 2008, 08:05:07 PM

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 07:29:06 AM

march 20, vista sp1.

Really? Can't wait, I love Vista :bow2

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 08:45:01 PM

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 09, 2008, 08:05:07 PM

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 07:29:06 AM

march 20, vista sp1.

Really? Can't wait, I love Vista :bow2

yeah unless things change lol.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 09:05:25 PM

Quote from: Blanka Face on March 09, 2008, 12:56:44 PM

vista is fine, if you have issues with 15 gigs of space you need a bigger drive, honestly lulz.

In case you missed it, ME AM HAVE MACBOOK.  I want to give Windows only a little space; I don't need it for much.  Plus I believe I can only have 32gb of space max if I want to use a FAT32 style partition and transfer data back and forth between Windows and OSX easily.

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I use both vista and XP at work, and going back to XP feels so ghetto

Now that I'm back with OSX, going back to anything Windows feels ultra-crunk broken-down ass ghetto lolz lolz

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 09:16:56 PM

Quote from: lyte edge on March 09, 2008, 09:05:25 PM

Quote from: Blanka Face on March 09, 2008, 12:56:44 PM

vista is fine, if you have issues with 15 gigs of space you need a bigger drive, honestly lulz.

In case you missed it, ME AM HAVE MACBOOK.  I want to give Windows only a little space; I don't need it for much.  Plus I believe I can only have 32gb of space max if I want to use a FAT32 style partition and transfer data back and forth between Windows and OSX easily.

Quote

I use both vista and XP at work, and going back to XP feels so ghetto

Now that I'm back with OSX, going back to anything Windows feels ultra-crunk broken-down ass ghetto lolz lolz

ban the traitor.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 09:28:32 PM

I have re-joined the superior Cult Of Jobs.  My PC is almost completely cleaned off and ready to be TOSSED ASIDE. 

One advantage of getting Vista would be that I could buy a Japanese copy.  XP doesn't contain multiple languages, but Vista does.  But in the end I think XP will serve my needs fine.  Plus I think some of the smaller apps I want to use don't support Vista yet anyway.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 09, 2008, 09:30:53 PM

xp doesn't? really?

then what this: http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/Language/asianlanguageinstallation_XP.html
(http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/Language/images/xp-install2.jpg)
 ???

i do that with every fresh install of xp.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: T234 on March 09, 2008, 09:33:27 PM

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15470.msg369066#msg369066 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15470.msg369066#msg369066)

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=8261.msg198315#msg198315 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=8261.msg198315#msg198315)


My thoughts on macs.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: bork on March 09, 2008, 11:41:04 PM

Quote from: McDragon on March 09, 2008, 09:30:53 PM

xp doesn't? really?

then what this: http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/Language/asianlanguageinstallation_XP.html
(http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/Language/images/xp-install2.jpg)
 ???

No, not the Asian language support.  Of course I know about that!  I'm talking about the language on the OS itself.  The OEM copy of Windows XP I got with my PC has multiple languages for example, but standard copies of Windows XP sold in Japan are in Japanese language ONLY.  I know I can get by, but if I had to do anything slightly complicated, it would be a real pain in the ass trying to figure out what does what.

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i do that with every fresh install of xp.

Just having to do multiple reinstalls of Windows should be enough of a reason to want to switch!   :lol

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 10, 2008, 07:38:24 AM

nah, it was a problem with my 4 year old pc.

my new pc is rock solid.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 11:19:25 AM

I'm about to Downconvert

Vista keeps disconnecting my Seagate External HDD and when it does that it removes the shell link to my Music folder, which fucks with itunes which causes a big headache

 :-\

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 10, 2008, 12:46:04 PM

Quote from: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 11:19:25 AM

I'm about to Downconvert

Vista keeps disconnecting my Seagate External HDD and when it does that it removes the shell link to my Music folder, which fucks with itunes which causes a big headache

 :-\

update bios, drivers and vista (SP1?).

did you do all of that?

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 01:14:01 PM

THe BIOS should be fine and drivers but I didn't install Vista SP1. Vista SP1 RTM is already out?

Even then, I'm going to stick with XP until I upgrade to a Dual Core Intel Mainboard

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 10, 2008, 01:25:26 PM

well, it should be out on 20 of march.

but since you are already a vista user maybe the sp1 upgrade is offered via windows update already? dunno lol.

another thing you can try is to use another usb cable or another port, and if you are using a multi usb hub then try not using it.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 01:34:33 PM

Went through all the diagnostic stuff for USB stuff, it was always the same thing :-\

It seems like Vista has issues with certain Ethernet devices and USB connectors for certain mainboards. I know its not the External HDD because it works flawlessly with Windows XP (Vista keeps asking me to scan the harddrive, format it, then it works and then it automatically disconnects). Blargh

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 10, 2008, 01:40:31 PM

what's your motherboard name/model?

if it ain't a desktop pc then what laptop are you using?

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 01:42:29 PM

Asrock 939Dual SATA2

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: MCD on March 10, 2008, 01:53:19 PM

http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.asp?Model=939Dual-SATA2&s=

weird, no vista support here and the latest bios is 2.30, install it if you haven't already.

better to stick with xp i guess, if only xp sp3 was out already.

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 10, 2008, 02:15:08 PM

Windows XP + IE7 = UNF UNF UNF

Title: Re: Windows XP Vs. Vista
Post by: Tauntaun on March 10, 2008, 02:38:05 PM

:bow XP Pro :bow2

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:piss IE7 :piss2

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