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Title: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Christopher on November 02, 2006, 12:39:25 PM
topic

Gettng the forum back on track.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 12:40:30 PM
Lame. Any console that decides to focus on them will be getting the boot from me. I can easily stop playing games if the cost gets too high.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 12:41:44 PM
I hope they die in a fire.  >:(

I love the prospect of online content and shit, but it still gives devs an incentive to half ass it and charge us.

And when this shit has taken over gaming I quit.  >:(
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 12:42:14 PM
GRAN TURISMO: BUY TRACKS AND SHIT EDITION
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 12:42:36 PM
The news of developers toying with the idea of CONSUMABLE microtransaction items almost put me in a coma.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Christopher on November 02, 2006, 12:42:46 PM
I have no problem with downloadable content via PSU or what not, but charging for pieces to the game...that's so bullshit.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 12:43:15 PM
GT sucks ass anyways. It's all about Forza. I've never got the hype for GT. Boring ass series. Driving a car around a track for 3 hours. zzz
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 02, 2006, 12:43:26 PM
Stolen wholesale from a GAF post re: Need for SPeed Carbon 360:

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Posted by Mike GED:

Guess what: if you bought Need for Speed: Carbon today, you already have premium content waiting for you on Xbox Live Marketplace! Not only is there day one content available, but it's still on the disc waiting to be unlocked. But that's not all. You want to own all of this wonderful content that's already sitting on the very game disc you purchased? It's going to cost you an additional $50 in microtransactions. That's right, fifty ****ing dollars to UNLOCK game data.

Heres a list of the parts and items you can 'download' on Marketplace:

The Collectors Edition Upgrade - 800 Points
Performance Drivetrain Bundle - 400 Points
Performance Engine Boost Bundle - 400 Points
Performance Handling Bundle - 400 Points
Ultimate Performance Bundle - 800 Points
Muscle Car Autosculpt Body Kit - 300 Points
Autosculpt Tuner Body Kit - 300 Points
Autosculpt Exotic Body Kit - 300 Points
1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 - 80 Points
2004 Lamborghini Murcielago - 80 Points
2006 Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 80 Points

If you even THINK of buying this shit, I will bitch slap you.

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That $100 for the COMPLETE racer. $100 for shit that's ON THE FUCKING DISC!!!

mind is blown
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 02, 2006, 12:43:41 PM
The same way I feel about cigs and lotto tickets. It's a tax on the weak and stupid. Economic Darwinism.

Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 12:44:35 PM
Well its like Chromehounds. They sell additional weapons, some of which may give an edge in play. That is a situation of Rich vs Poor, Haves vs Have Nots. In my opinion thats a horrible way to build a level playing field, or a gaming community for that matter.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 12:46:11 PM
Dude. Whoever buys this bullshit needs to lose their gamer card.  >:( That bs only gives devs more incentive to do more of that idiocy.

I think I remember one post at gaf where someone said an MS employee suggested that one day you could play an rpg, and like, instead of using in game money you use fucking MS  points to buy shit like items and weapons. God how lame is that? When that happens I'm done with gaming.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Christopher on November 02, 2006, 12:46:19 PM
This is a dark time in gaming.  Microtransactions and the Wii?  :(
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 12:47:36 PM
Hey, you have to give Nintendo props for keeping it simple. Even if their microtransaction is virtual console, atleast it's not VITAL game parts you need to buy in order to enjoy the game in it's entirety.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2006, 12:54:08 PM
Everyone on GAF is lambasting EA for the NFS Carbon shit, but I've noticed all of them plan on getting GT5 for the PS3. And if anyone compares the games, BAM omg you're trolling stop it.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 12:54:33 PM
What is the theory behind microtransactions as a viable part of the industry?
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2006, 01:06:12 PM
Well, in theory they're quite interesting. Offering the gamer extra content, that he can purchase without leaving his/her living room, is not a bad idea. It's meant to just give the player another purchase option. If you want this awesome horse armor, it's your for $1.99!

But on the other hand, gaming throughout the ages has been about earning rewards through gameplay. If I collect 100 hidden shells, I can earn a new magical sword. If I beat this game, I can unlock a new playable character. Etc. Microtransaction takes this out of the game, instead offering these things up for a real life price. In 5 years I can only hope that games continue to offer incentives to those who play the game, and not just those who buy extra content.

Perhaps the most disturbing part of microtransactions is the idea of buying entire game environments. Having the option to buy horse armor is rather tame compared to being forced to purchase entire racing tracks just to play the game. That's quite disturbing. I can only hope that gamers everywhere reject this new form of microtransactions, which should really be called macrotransactions, and tell pubishers that this form of hackery is unacceptable.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:13:02 PM
doesn't bother me, I like the idea of companies making extra downloads for games like Oblivion and I don't mind paying a few $ for them.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 01:14:18 PM
But the horse add on WAS UNECESSARY. God, Morphix please don't tell me you're one of those people buying this bs.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:15:23 PM
Fool and his money lolz
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Saint Cornelius on November 02, 2006, 01:19:39 PM
If games were cheaper to begin with, microtransactions wouldn't bother me... but since games are just getting more and more expensive, it's bullshit.

It's also the reason I'm on the fence about in-game advertising - if it made the games cheaper, that would be GREAT. But to pay $60 for a game and still get Red Bull ads? Fuck that. Gaming is outta control.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Thee Reverend Gary Davis on November 02, 2006, 01:21:59 PM
90% of microtransactions should be free. I want a whole new game for my money.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:23:11 PM
I like how people bitch about WoW being 'expensive' but pony up lots of money for usesless microtransaction features in 360 games.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Disposable White Guy on November 02, 2006, 01:26:26 PM
Isn't that how microtransactions got started in the first place?  People saw the amount of money people were willing to cough up every month for some MMO or another, and decided to try applying it to every game everywhere until it just became rediculous?

If I was playing Shadowkeep back in the day and the screen said "You come across a door.  Please insert $.25 into your NES to open it" I'd be pretty turned off to gaming too.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 01:27:46 PM
You open the door and there's nothing inside but a picture of a fat guy jerking it.  How angry would you be?
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:28:33 PM
But the horse add on WAS UNECESSARY. God, Morphix please don't tell me you're one of those people buying this bs.

you don't have to buy any of it.  

I'd take a horse armor in Oblivion over spending the money on a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Disposable White Guy on November 02, 2006, 01:28:37 PM
Actually, I'd call that money well spent  :-*
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:29:52 PM
I love starbux, have fun imagining having something alive to ride morphix lol.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 01:30:39 PM
I am going to make a MICROTRANSACTION game, where you have to go through doors and spend 25 cents to open each door.  Inside could be goodies, another door, the secret to life or fat guys jerkin' it.  Maybe on each other.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Thee Reverend Gary Davis on November 02, 2006, 01:34:42 PM
god...Imagine halo 3  :-\
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 01:35:10 PM
Halo 3: Fat Guys Jerkin' It Edition
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: cubicle47b on November 02, 2006, 01:36:09 PM
Well, I've pretty much vowed to not buy EA games and I passed up Lumines Live so it's safe to say I really hate the idea.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Christopher on November 02, 2006, 01:36:18 PM
You better believe Nintendo is going to be on this, the already did this shit with the e-reader and the GBA-GC link, and on inferior hardware without proper controls. ugh
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:37:30 PM
WoW players have no right to criticize others on how they spend their gaming $


At least Oblivion is playable without forking out any extra money, MMOs like WoW are useless without their monthly fee and even if you cough up the money they are still only glorified 3d chat rooms.  They should be free + monthly fee, paying $50 + $13 a month there after to is like being socked in the gut with an additional shot to the nuts every 30 days.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:38:57 PM
Dude, your taste in everything sucks. You have no right to say anything about anything.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 01:39:53 PM
I'd pay for WoW if there was a way to make my character a fat guy Tauren jerkin' it.  I'd rub one out at the auction house all over newbs.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: cubicle47b on November 02, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: MAF
Dude, your taste in everything sucks. You have no right to say anything about anything.

Agreed.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Disposable White Guy on November 02, 2006, 01:42:34 PM
As opposed to spending gaming $ on a new chrome muffler or The Zweihander of Love and Lost Horsemastery Werewolfing Slaying?  Give me a break.

The dynamic for a WoW subscription is the same as the old Xbox Live subscriptions, only instead of forking over even more cash for something you want, you just get it when the content is ready to go live.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
Dude, your taste in everything sucks. You have no right to say anything about anything.

I like what I like  :-[

GOD HAND sucks!
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:43:36 PM
People who complain about WoW dont have a full grasp of what we have got for our money WITHOUT an expansion. The amount of content is a FIRST in MMORPG gaming.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:46:53 PM
Playing a MMORPG makes you worse than Hitler
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 02, 2006, 01:47:39 PM
the difference between PSU and an MMORPG is that the MMORPG actually has more than 5 hours worth of content
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2006, 01:48:14 PM
you jerkin it??
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 02, 2006, 01:48:43 PM
lol jerkin it

"No sir, im checkin sports scores"
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 01:49:05 PM
WORLD of WARCRAFT: YOU JERKIN IT?
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Disposable White Guy on November 02, 2006, 01:49:30 PM
Microtransations for self-satisfaction.  That'll be the day!

"You open your pants and find a penis.  Please insert $.25 into your asscrack to touch it"
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: cubicle47b on November 02, 2006, 01:51:08 PM
Quote
Microtransations for self-satisfaction.  That'll be the day!

"You open your pants and find a penis.  Please insert $.25 into your asscrack to touch it"

Girls paying for "consumables" was the first thing that popped into my head for some reason.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 01:51:22 PM
Is F.E.A.R. any good MAF?  Just got it for the X360 but I have such horrible tastes in game I am afraid to play it without a preconceived idea of if I should like it or not.


Help me out  ;)
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 02, 2006, 02:39:22 PM
m0rphix, it lacks a generic anime license. you'll probably hate it.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 02:39:36 PM
Also, it sucks.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 02, 2006, 02:41:02 PM
well, if it sucks, he might LIKE it

Pros:
+ it sucks.

Cons:
- lacks shonen animu license.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 02, 2006, 02:42:54 PM
Is it me, or does it feel like a lot of charm is no longer in PC game development? 

I guess there was all this new, fun stuff coming out because it was relatively easy to break into the PC scene and the whole online thing was pretty AWESOME when it first started to hit.  Everything seems so overhyped these days, F.E.A.R. included, but Doom 3 really comes to mind.
Title: Re: So where does evilbore stand on this whole "Microtransactions" idea?
Post by: morphix on November 02, 2006, 03:18:31 PM
you are just getting old, games suck as much now as they did back in the day ;)