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Title: FF6 is the only RPG without a completely distinguished mentally-challenged story.
Post by: GilloD on March 11, 2008, 12:28:11 PM: Discuss.

It's got imperialism, culture wars, betrayal, plausible tragedy, genuinely evil villains, realistic love stories, a healthy dose of humor and an epic battle. It was the last RPG I've played that felt like the story wasn't written by some Japan-obsessed 14 year old
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 12:29:25 PM: no.

play xenogears or the epic xenosaga series.
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Post by: y2kev on March 11, 2008, 12:31:32 PM: no.

play only chrono cross.
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Post by: Eric P on March 11, 2008, 12:32:11 PM: no.

play fall out
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Post by: GilloD on March 11, 2008, 12:32:32 PM: Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
no.

play xenogears or the epic xenosaga series.

MAGIC ROBOTS BLAH BLAH GOD. Snoozer, man.

Oh, Fallout is a good call. But it's PC. I should have said console
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Post by: Mupepe on March 11, 2008, 12:38:11 PM: Quote from: GilloD on March 11, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
Discuss.

It's got imperialism, culture wars, betrayal, plausible tragedy, genuinely evil villains, realistic love stories, a healthy dose of humor and an epic battle. It was the last RPG I've played that felt like the story wasn't written by some Japan-obsessed 14 year old
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
no.

play xenogears or the epic xenosaga series.
:yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
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Post by: tiesto on March 11, 2008, 12:41:47 PM: I'd argue Phantasy Star 2 and many of the Dragon Quest games fall into this category (not completely distinguished mentally-challenged stories). I quite like Lost Odyssey's, at least the 1000 Years Of Dreams.
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 12:44:09 PM: sarcasm....
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2008, 12:49:30 PM: Final Fantasy VI is up there, but Final Fantasy VIII is up there for me too, along with Suikoden I-III and Chrono Trigger.

The Dragon Quest series is pretty good too, especially VII.

If we're talking about rpgs as a whole, I'd also include Planescape: Torment and Baldurs Gate II and the Fallout games.

But yeah um...aside from these games, I can't think of any rpgs that have good stories. I'm not too sure about Lost Odyssey yet because I haven't beaten it, but I think the game would be on this list if they had the story written by the dude who wrote the 1000 years of dreams.
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 12:52:53 PM: as much as i like suikoden, the story is usually the same.

shota kid gets out of town, find castle, get strategy guy, defeat evil empire.

some betrayal here and there blah blah blah shota loli, done.

though suiko3 was kinda different thanks to the 3 POVs.
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2008, 01:00:40 PM: Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 12:52:53 PM
as much as i like suikoden, the story is usually the same.

shota kid gets out of town, find castle, get strategy guy, defeat evil empire.

some betrayal here and there blah blah blah shota loli, done.

though suiko3 was kinda different thanks to the 3 POVs.

well it's different from other jrpgs. I like the war shit and fucking people up. And the people you fight are rarely evil! They're just people fighting for things they believe in. What I like about Suikoden is that it's not so black and white.

Throw Panzer Dragoon Saga into the list of good jrpg stories.
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 01:04:26 PM: agreed.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 01:08:48 PM: JRPGs without entirely distinguished mentally-challenged stories:

- SMT games
- Dragon Quarter
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Post by: Eric P on March 11, 2008, 01:09:07 PM: SHADOW HEARTS COMING TO AMERICA
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2008, 01:16:02 PM: SMT :bow
Dragon Quarter :bow

minimalist jrpg stories :bow
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 01:29:02 PM: :piss Lost Odyssey :piss2
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Post by: Candyflip on March 11, 2008, 01:31:16 PM: Quote from: GilloD on March 11, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
Discuss.

It's got imperialism, culture wars, betrayal, plausible tragedy, genuinely evil villains, realistic love stories, a healthy dose of humor and an epic battle. It was the last RPG I've played that felt like the story wasn't written by some Japan-obsessed 14 year old
Still my favorite game of all time.

(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2074/highfivefi1.jpg)

Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
no.

play xenogears or the epic xenosaga series.
SURELY YOU JEST
Title: Re: FF6 is the only RPG without a completely distinguished mentally-challenged story.
Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 01:47:55 PM: FF6 is one of the worst Final Fantasies though. A good trade-off? Not really.
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2008, 02:02:13 PM: Quote from: demi on March 11, 2008, 01:47:55 PM
FF6 is one of the worst Final Fantasies though. A good trade-off? Not really.

:-\
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Post by: Candyflip on March 11, 2008, 03:05:26 PM: Quote from: demi on March 11, 2008, 01:47:55 PM
FF6 is one of the worst Final Fantasies though. A good trade-off? Not really.
You have no soul
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 11, 2008, 04:28:13 PM: Best RPG story ever:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:o OMG NSFW!!! http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/JoeMolotov/sksrpg.jpg OMG NSFW!!! :o
[close]
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 04:31:51 PM: WHY ARE PEOPLE SO distinguished mentally-challenged
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 04:34:01 PM: we need a mod here that isn't as busy as lyte edge and not as lazy as maf.
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 04:45:22 PM: molotov, you are on the fast track to not being hot.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 04:47:30 PM: molotov, you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, don't spoiler tag the image, spoiler tag a LINK to the image

this is not fucking hard, you goddamned moron
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 04:58:21 PM: ff6 is one of the more distinguished mentally-challenged ff titles: evil clown uses powers of magic and technology to destroy the world just 'cuz! throw in some underdeveloped characters, manufactured maudlin moments, and goonball animu convention, and you have a pretty embarrassing entry.

also, plz make a link in the spoiler tag, i nearly just got busted due to the mouse over :'(
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Post by: Mupepe on March 11, 2008, 05:01:18 PM: You guys are pretty harsh to Joe. He didn't mean anything by it. And it's his first offense.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 05:03:10 PM: sorry to yell, but what's so hard about Not Posting Dumb Shit
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 05:04:57 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on March 11, 2008, 04:58:21 PM
ff6 is one of the more distinguished mentally-challenged ff titles: evil clown uses powers of magic and technology to destroy the world just 'cuz! throw in some underdeveloped characters, manufactured maudlin moments, and goonball animu convention, and you have a pretty embarrassing entry.

also, plz make a link in the spoiler tag, i nearly just got busted due to the mouse over :'(

glad someone agrees with me. one of the worst.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 05:06:41 PM: you're just mad because the game demonizes juggalos

well, animu-style demonizes juggalos; i suspect "demonization" is part of the juggalo credo
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 05:08:25 PM: dunno, ff6 never came up during my travels as a wicked clown
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Post by: MoxManiac on March 11, 2008, 06:55:19 PM: Kefka was warped by magitek shit, it fucked him up that's why he went apeshit on the world.

And demi sucks
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 07:09:50 PM: u mad?
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Post by: MCD on March 11, 2008, 07:13:36 PM: demi rox
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Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2008, 10:20:43 PM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 11, 2008, 05:03:10 PM
sorry to yell, but what's so hard about Not Posting Dumb Shit

I'm glad I missed this. Last week Junpei PM'ed me a huge gaping vagina.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on March 11, 2008, 11:26:35 PM: Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
we need a mod here that isn't as busy as lyte edge and not as lazy as maf.

Guess what distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, I cant look at that shit from work either. Hard to moderate.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2008, 11:31:12 PM: Neither can lyte, since he shares an office with the rest of the teaching staff. It's sort of the same situation when someone PMs me NSFW stuff - I basically lose access to PMs altogether until I can get home and delete it.
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Post by: Candyflip on March 11, 2008, 11:32:30 PM: I still remember the Game Genie code to play as General Leo from like 7 years ago.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2008, 11:33:50 PM: Man, I remember thinking that scene just before General Leo gets killed was the end of the game.

"Welp, this is pretty good stuff. I'm guessing now they'll haul Kefka off in chains and everyone'll go home and live happily ever aft - WHOA WTF"
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 11, 2008, 11:36:24 PM: Hello, idiots.

First off, there aren't any "unwritten" rules. We've stated time and time before that any NSFW images must be linked to in spoiler tags. If one numbskull gets away with it, it doesn't mean you have free reign to fuck over folks at work.

Second, I don't think Joe meant to destroy lives. I'll look into making NSFW image links easier to defend against, but - guess what - there has to be a degree of alertness to browsing at work. We cannot control everything that everyone posts at any given time. Even if someone did it on purpose to fuck with everyone (read: synbios), we can only react to the incident.
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2008, 11:36:49 PM: and then the distinguished mentally-challenged bit where they make you wait until the last minute to get Shadow back or you lose him forever, yeah that was cool huh huh huh huh

shit game
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Post by: Rman on March 11, 2008, 11:38:50 PM: FF6 is still my favorite Final Fantasy game. So awesome. Hopefully it get released on VC or something. Crappy TOSE ports don't count.

Dirty poor confession:

I played the game in high school for the SNES. I was a freshman or sophomore and couldn't work at the time, so I couldn't afford to buy a copy--at 70 bucks it was also very expensive for videogame. I actually rented the game from my local mom and pop rental video store. However, every time I would re-rent the game my old file would be erased. I must have played that game from the beginning over 10 times until I finally completed it.
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Post by: Himu on March 12, 2008, 12:15:26 AM: rman: when i frist got my psx I didn't have a memory card for a whole month or two.

I kept starting FFVII over and got further and further without a card. The furthest I got was the Shinra building.

When I finally got my memory card, I jet right through Midgar on to Kalm, and finally Junon in like a goddamn day.

I hadn't played a game that much at the time.
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Post by: Rman on March 12, 2008, 12:18:47 AM: I love hardcore stories like that. We are pretty pampered as gamers these days with endless tutorials, demos to actually check out games before we buy them--Simpson's NES game, I'm looking at you, turd--sleep modes for portable devices, and on and on.
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Post by: Himu on March 12, 2008, 12:24:35 AM: I didn't make use of my psp's sleep mode until recently tbh, and I only do it because I need to go somewhere and I want to continue playing later but can't save.

I guess I'm used to stuff like that because I didn't grow up with fucking saved games since NES and Genesis games rarely ever had save files.
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Post by: MCD on March 12, 2008, 06:35:25 AM: Quote from: Blanka Face on March 11, 2008, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
we need a mod here that isn't as busy as lyte edge and not as lazy as maf.

Guess what distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, I cant look at that shit from work either. Hard to moderate.
:maf
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Post by: muckson on March 12, 2008, 11:14:54 AM: i don't have time to read the thread right now but fuck you guys if you didn't mention vagrant story.
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Post by: Rman on March 12, 2008, 12:02:02 PM: Never played Vagrant Story sadly.
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Post by: bluemax on March 12, 2008, 02:55:40 PM: Quote from: McDragon on March 11, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
no.

play xenogears or the epic xenosaga series.

Xenogears story reads like it was written by a 22 year old American with a 14 year olds maturity level who has watched far too much fucking Mecha anime.

Is there a single cliche that story doesn't fucking invoke? They even ripped off Soylent green! Also the trite overdone "Western style organized religions are corrupt and evil" plot line.
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Post by: MCD on March 12, 2008, 02:58:39 PM: i was joking, i swear!
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Post by: y2kev on March 12, 2008, 03:00:13 PM: Quote from: Rman on March 12, 2008, 12:02:02 PM
Never played Vagrant Story sadly.
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Post by: Himu on March 12, 2008, 03:12:21 PM: okay vagrant story too

and tactics ogre
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Post by: MoxManiac on March 12, 2008, 11:26:47 PM: Haha charlie brown is giving you the finger himu
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Post by: Candyflip on March 13, 2008, 01:39:52 AM: Guise I downloaded Final Fantasy VII for PC and actually got it to work. Good old block hands.
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Post by: etiolate on March 13, 2008, 03:35:04 AM: FF6 had worthwhile characters. Then suddenly worthwhile characters vanished from future FF games. Stunning really.
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Post by: disgruntled_jojo on March 13, 2008, 08:42:35 PM: Panzer Dragoon
BoFV

All others are fail. FFXII had something good going for a bit there but totally self-destructs by the end