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Title: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 04:46:38 PM
Whenever I see Creationists get all up in my junk it makes me soooo mad.

http://www.edmondsun.com/opinion/local_story_067125346.html

I think a good compromise is that a person is free to believe in Creationism, if they like, and in exchange they just have to give up any scientific or technical advances discovered after 1859 (the year Origin of Species was published).

God gets put back in the schools, and electricity and pencillin get taken out. No television or computers means more time for reading the Bible, and since you'll die at 45 of malnutrition and insufficient health care, you get to go live with God up in His big golden house sooner than the evil-lie-tionists. Praise Jesus!
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Eric P on March 11, 2008, 04:51:14 PM
[youtube=425,350]Ycbc4fHY1v8[/youtube]

my thoughts on the subject

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The bill requires public schools to guarantee students the right to express their religious viewpoints in a public forum, in class, in homework and in other ways without being penalized. If a student’s religious beliefs were in conflict with scientific theory, and the student chose to express those beliefs rather than explain the theory in response to an exam question, the student’s incorrect response would be deemed satisfactory, according to this bill.

[youtube=425,350]Ycbc4fHY1v8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Bloodwake on March 11, 2008, 05:47:57 PM
I bet Scientology exploits this for all its worth. This basically gives ANY belief the ability to say whatever the hell they want to in a school and get away with it.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: tiesto on March 11, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
Oh god, I got lectured on the gold standard by a friend when I went to happy hour last week :(
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Rman on March 11, 2008, 06:38:24 PM
The Gold Standard is distinguished mentally-challenged as hell.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 06:42:11 PM
How so? You want your money to be backed by nothing other than our governments approval? Also, what does the gold standard have to do with creationism.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 06:42:35 PM
Oh god, I got lectured on the gold standard by a friend when I went to happy hour last week :(

How did it go? Did you get owned?
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 11, 2008, 06:46:11 PM
How so? You want your money to be backed by nothing other than our governments approval? Also, what does the gold standard have to do with creationism.

God created gold, man created dollar. Gold > Dollars
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 06:48:16 PM
paper, fundamentally worth nothing, backed by government's approval but is lighter to carry

gold, fundamentally worth nothing, also backed by government's approval but allows me to carry large sacks filled with doubloons around in the trunk of my car, which i can paint to look like a 1580's spanish pirate galleon

paper means less muscle mass but less hernias

gold means i can pretend i'm a hedonistic nobleman from borgia-era italy but requires investment in oak or steel coffers

tough call

Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 06:54:59 PM

[quote author=Professor Prole link=topic=18571.msg451013#msg451013 date=120527569
gold, fundamentally worth nothing, also backed by government's approval but allows me to carry large sacks filled with doubloons around in the trunk of my car, which i can paint to look like a 1580's spanish pirate galleon

[/quote]

Your such a fucking idiot. Do you think people had to carry around sacks of gold to buy shit? No they carried around dollars that you could exchange for gold at any time with the government.

If your only argument against the gold standard is your arms are small and weak then I just owned you.

How is gold worth nothing? It's actually used to make shit. What are you going to do when the dollar literally isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 06:56:53 PM
Prole answer me this. Why do you think that the constitution says that only gold and silver can be used as currency? Why was it so important for them?
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 06:58:14 PM
in 1787?

me, i'm pushing the oil standard over the plutonium standard. or maybe the cpu standard. china seems to think cpus make better currency than oil these days. help!
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
I believe the constitution was written a few years later but yes your on the right track.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 06:59:40 PM
I want my money to be backed by God's holy word

EDIT: oh god I thought with Ron Paul dead we would be through with distinguished mentally-challenged thread derails
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 07:00:26 PM
Is free speech outdated too? What about separation of powers? We dont need those things right. Lets just be ruled by one executive branch that tells us everything.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 11, 2008, 07:01:08 PM
I'd like a dirt standard, we've got a lot of it, we could all be rich!
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 07:01:31 PM
I want my money to be backed by God's holy word

Thats what we pretty much have. The only difference is that liberals worship the government as their god instead of something being in heaven/space or whatever the fuck.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
god's notary public (and chief nespot) seems to think gold is right crap, and backs paper. leather-bound paper, in fact, and preferably written in english rather than in the original greek, although He'll accept the old form of currency as long as you make your stance on evils of general homosexuality VERY clear.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:02:57 PM
I want my money to be backed by God's holy word

Thats what we pretty much have. The only difference is that liberals worship the government as their god instead of something being in heaven/space or whatever the fuck.

is your God inside your ass? your head is always deep inside, presumably in contemplation of His wonders
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 07:03:11 PM
Is free speech outdated too? What about separation of powers? We dont need those things right. Lets just be ruled by one executive branch that tells us everything.

what do those have to do with the gold standard

help me, my brain only moves in logical, reasoned steps as i was not raised with religion
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:04:01 PM
actually, aren't the streets of Heaven paved with gold?

sounds like gold is not very valuable in Heaven. and that God is a mediocre urban planner.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 07:05:11 PM
gold is heaven's concrete. hence it easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven, since gold is not accepted or backed there
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:06:05 PM
Jesus also threw out the moneylenders, presumably because he did not approve of their usurious, money-hoarding ways

only one conclusion possible

God hates gold
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2008, 07:06:50 PM
between the anti-religion sentiment, and weight/looks obsession, i'm about ready to declare evilbore the official forum of the fourth reich
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 07:07:19 PM
Is free speech outdated too? What about separation of powers? We dont need those things right. Lets just be ruled by one executive branch that tells us everything.

what do those have to do with the gold standard

help me, my brain only moves in logical, reasoned steps as i was not raised with religion

Your one word response of "1776?" implied that the constitution was outdated.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 11, 2008, 07:07:55 PM
Jesus also threw out the moneylenders, presumably because he did not approve of their usurious, money-hoarding ways

only one conclusion possible

God hates gold

Probably does who cares about god though.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
Jesus also turned five loaves and two fishes into enough to feed the multitudes

But was there a loaf and fish in a Heavenly vault to back each that Jesus so unthinkingly produced out of nothing?

NO!

God just prints off food for the hungry, never stopping to think about how much he devalues real loaves and fishes through his rash actions.

tsk tsk, God
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:10:12 PM
between the anti-religion sentiment, and weight/looks obsession, i'm about ready to declare evilbore the official forum of the fourth reich

but the Nazis loved gold!
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2008, 07:11:16 PM
maybe you guys could pry the gold fillings out of fat religious people's mouths after they stroke out
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: brawndolicious on March 11, 2008, 07:14:53 PM
foc, we don't have enough gold reserves for a gold standard.

the constitution was written by people who owned slaves and who would have formal duels with pistols, these are people we would consider disgusting and worth shit today so yes, the constitution is outdated.

I mean, things like the second amendment and the gold standard were made because the government back then LACKED enough control to govern properly so you can't say that just because they were in the constitution that they're as important as freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 11, 2008, 07:23:21 PM
Jesus also turned five loaves and two fishes into enough to feed the multitudes

But was there a loaf and fish in a Heavenly vault to back each that Jesus so unthinkingly produced out of nothing?

NO!

God just prints off food for the hungry, never stopping to think about how much he devalues real loaves and fishes through his rash actions.

tsk tsk, God

That was the hippie commie Jesus tho, Patel.  You need to ask yourself...  WWSSJD?

(http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/franken/p02.jpg)

That's right.  What Would Supply Side Jesus Do?
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
Supply Side Jesus definitely supports the Gold Standard
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 11, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
does this sound like anyone you know

(http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/franken/p04.jpg)
(http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/franken/p05.jpg)

Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Mandark on March 11, 2008, 07:38:05 PM
You laugh at the gold standard now, but just wait until you're dead, stranded on the banks of the river Styx.

You think Charon accepts paper money?  Please.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
how does one concept codified in 1787 being grossly outdated make others outdated as well despite them being wholly unrelated? perhaps your gold-plated reaganomics jesus has some holy writ on the matter,  'cuz I am missing the necessary leap of faith here :'(
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 08:28:52 PM
according to our minor prophet of supply-side jesus, foc, we should toss out "do unto others" on account of all of deuteronomy :'(
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Mandark on March 11, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
how does one concept codified in 1787 being grossly outdated make others outdated as well despite them being wholly unrelated? perhaps your gold-plated reaganomics jesus has some holy writ on the matter,  'cuz I am missing the necessary leap of faith here :'(

Cause the Constitution represents the Founding Fathers' ability to pluck timeless, universal truths from the ether and render them onto parchment.  Every word of the document comes from their revelations, so rejecting one part would break the hermeneutic circle, or something.

The practical result is that things like a bicameral legislature and the non-representation of Washington, DC are just as unassailable as freedom of speech and religion.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 10:43:08 PM
you know what emoticon we are missing? a confederate flag with a crying klansman, just for foc threads
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 11, 2008, 10:45:55 PM
hahahahaha

CLOUD OR PATEL MAKE IT SO
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2008, 11:01:37 PM
Or a Texas flag with a crying porkchop.

That one could be used with Himu and Mupepe as well.
Title: Re: Creationists should not be allowed to use the fruits of scientific labor
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 11, 2008, 11:04:07 PM
Or a Texas flag with a crying porkchop.

That one could be used with Himu and Mupepe as well.
Just replace the porkchop with a fired chicken leg or a taco.