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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 07:50:47 PM

Title: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 07:50:47 PM: Hardware

PlayStation 2 351.8K
PlayStation 3 280.8K
PlayStation Portable 243.1K
Xbox 360 254.6K
Nintendo DS 587.6K
Wii 432K

Top 10 SW
Top-Selling VG Software - February 2008
RELEASE TOTAL U.S. RANK
TITLE PUBLISHER DATE UNITS

360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE* ACTIVISION 7-Nov 296.2K 1
360 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 295.2K 2
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 7-Feb 289.7K 3
PS3 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 233.5K 4
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK* ACTIVISION 7-Oct 222.9K 5
NDS MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES SEGA OF AMERICA 8-Jan 205.6K 6
360 LOST ODYSSEY MICROSOFT 8-Feb 203.6K 7
360 TUROK TOUCHSTONE 8-Jan 197.7K 8
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK* ACTIVISION 7-Oct 183.8K 9
360 ROCK BAND* MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS 7-Nov 161.8K 10
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2008, 07:54:23 PM: year of the PS3 continues!

Excellent figures for Lost Odyssey, will hopefully keep selling well due to word of mouth
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 07:55:24 PM: My God at the DS and Wii.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2008, 07:55:52 PM: PS3's up 11k from January. Blu-Ray Bump! Sony wins, Sony wins! :bow
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Oblivion on March 13, 2008, 08:00:41 PM: You would think the gap would be bigger given MS's PR yesterday.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 08:01:00 PM: "damage control mode"

5 360 games on the list, HA!
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:01:58 PM: 360 software tie ratios are insane.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 13, 2008, 08:02:35 PM: Seriously tho, Bluray wins and PS3 sales increase? Ill give a nod when I see more than two titles on the top 10 :/

I better see MLB The Show 08 on that fucking list next month or Sony fans are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2008, 08:04:44 PM: So Sony fans arent distinguished mentally-challenged fellows until next NPD? lol
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:07:03 PM: Where's Halo 3?
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2008, 08:07:38 PM: its a pretty good game...

Medals of Duty 6 is going to be awesome
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 13, 2008, 08:07:57 PM: Quote from: Scenester on March 13, 2008, 08:04:44 PM
So Sony fans arent distinguished mentally-challenged fellows until next NPD? lol

They have one month!
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Fragamemnon on March 13, 2008, 08:13:00 PM: My wife and I talked last night about getting a PS3 for high def DVD videos. I said that the cheapest/best value would probably be a PS3 and she was like "really? what a waste".

I love my wife. :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat

I suppose I could get a separate drive for my HTPC but I'd rather not deal with the fruitiness of whatever DRM monster lives in those drives/playback software mixed with my non-HDMI TV.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 08:14:56 PM: NR Frontlines: Fuel of War (Xbox 360) 99,900
Professor Layton and the Mysterious Village (DS) 91,000
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin (DS) 50,300
No More Heroes (Wii) 37,000

http://www.thesimexchange.com/blogpost.php?post_id=482
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 13, 2008, 08:15:10 PM: Wow at LO numbers, very nice compared to Blue Dragon.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:15:58 PM: 360 LOST ODYSSEY MICROSOFT 8-Feb 203.6K 7

:FISTPUMP

360 the software beast, as usual. gogogo blu-ray!
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 08:16:47 PM: Quote from: demi on March 13, 2008, 08:15:10 PM
Wow at LO numbers, very nice compared to Blue Dragon.
marketing + decent reviews helped.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 13, 2008, 08:20:41 PM: Quote from: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:07:03 PM
Where's Halo 3?

in the garbage
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 08:22:02 PM: MS to Bungie: ever watched independence day?
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:24:04 PM: so when's the 360 US price drop hitting?
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:24:22 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 13, 2008, 08:23:01 PM
Call of Duty fps of the generation? Seems so.

wait for killzone 2 and resistance 2.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:26:08 PM: and HOME.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 13, 2008, 08:26:24 PM: Looks like Mass Effect bomba'd

Yay!
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:30:05 PM: Mass Effect dropped off, but it didn't bomba.

And Demi, Turok seems to have sold better than expected.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:30:35 PM: smh @ TUROK
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:31:29 PM: smh @ those who bought turok at full price.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 13, 2008, 08:31:39 PM: Quote from: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:30:05 PM
Mass Effect dropped off, but it didn't bomba.

And Demi, Turok seems to have sold better than expected.

It will taper off, it's a bomba
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2008, 08:32:57 PM: LOST ODYSSEY OUTSELLING TUROK :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

Surprised an RPG outsells an FPS on the 360... and rock on Wii/DS.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: bud on March 13, 2008, 08:33:19 PM: :bow :bow :bow PS2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 08:34:31 PM: Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2008, 08:32:57 PM
LOST ODYSSEY OUTSELLING TUROK :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

Hopefully, MS will learn that competent JRPGs can sell the on 360 if they are marketed well.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:36:03 PM: blue dragon had shit for marketing. fucking assholes.

what happened to super mario galaxy? ??? must be suffering from the halo 3 syndrome.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2008, 08:36:22 PM: 360 LOST ODYSSEY MICROSOFT 8-Feb 203.6K 7

YES YES YES YE SYESYES YES YES YES YES YE SYES YES YES YESY ES
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 08:39:45 PM: US bought more LO than Japan and what did they get? a shit case! hahaha
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 09:04:34 PM: more:

Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii) 15,000
WipEout Pulse (PSP) 10,000
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 09:13:54 PM: Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on March 13, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
whoa....really low #s for DQSwords and Wipeout. When did they release?
let's see..

Wipeout Pulse: February 12, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wipeout_Pulse

Dragon Quest Swords: February 19, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_Swords
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 13, 2008, 09:15:25 PM: dont blame me, i didnt even download it! and i bought DQ Swords! which i kinda regret.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 09:24:24 PM: cod6 = 2009, bigger install base and cheaper console prices.

hype will be bigger.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: drew on March 13, 2008, 09:24:50 PM: Quote from: hyp on March 13, 2008, 08:30:35 PM
smh @ TUROK

Turok is a goddamn abomination.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I have no idea what these numbers mean
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Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2008, 09:33:36 PM: basically you think of 100K people playing a shitty game, and feel grossed out by it

I think this is how is works
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM: Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 09:43:43 PM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.
for it's budget? nope, it isn't.

but it's great for a jrpg game on a us console in the us.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:47:56 PM: I guess MS might just keep funding JRPGS even if they lose money. They have to make the 360 more viable for gamers that still think of Xboxes as having nothing but shooters, racers and sports games.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2008, 09:49:19 PM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.

for a non-FF jrpg on an MS console that came out halfway through the month? YES
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 09:50:08 PM: i think it's a long term project just like rare.

mistwalker: rpgs
rare: family games

they are not the best sellers (on the xbox anyway) but they are a must.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: thekavorka on March 13, 2008, 09:52:56 PM: CoD4 :gun
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2008, 09:54:13 PM: Is calcifer gonna suck some dick on LO?

360's increased sales rate proves the shortage last month, March should put it back where it belongs. Or prove some PS3 momentum, it's certainly doing better this year than it was in Nov/Dec last year.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2008, 10:00:42 PM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.

It's better than Dragon Quest 8 did on the PS2 in the US, IIRC.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2008, 10:05:44 PM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.

It's better than Dragon Quest 8 did on the PS2 in the US, IIRC.

And that game came out in the fall, didn't it?

edit: November 05, 85k units sold.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 10:30:32 PM: japan probably bought lot more, relax nicca.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Powerslave on March 13, 2008, 10:34:46 PM: Quote from: ParticleReality on March 13, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
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360 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 295.2K 2
PS3 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 233.5K 4

B-B-BUT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE DMC TO THE PLAYSTATION NAME! IT'LL NEVER SELL MORE ON THE 360!

People are going to be real hurt come GTA4.

Considering how big the difference between the user installed base from the 360 and PS3 is, those numbers really aren't bad. It's only 60k ahead. Of course GTA4 will sell more on the 360, but don't expect the difference to be huge, just like you saw here.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2008, 10:41:44 PM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.

It's better than Dragon Quest 8 did on the PS2 in the US, IIRC.

Er

DQVIII did 500k+ in North America didn't it? Are you talking about DQVIII's first month? If so, yeah
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: BamYouHaveAids on March 13, 2008, 10:45:28 PM: sales faggotry

(http://www.bgol.us/board/images/smilies/smh.gif)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: calcifer on March 13, 2008, 10:45:53 PM: interesting that lost odyssey did in usa what blue dragon did in japan and blue dragon did in usa what lost odyssey did in japan

going by chart position they did about the same in europe. blue dragon only dropped from 5 to 9, though, and was released during a busier time so actual sales numbers might be higher for blue dragon

200k is good for a jrpg in america on xbox but that's about it

i doubt square will rush to port ff13 to 360 (if they aren't already) over 200k though

also cutsie jrpgs (aka 90% of jrpgs) have yet to do "ok" on 360 in usa
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 10:48:02 PM: wtf

this isn't calcifer!
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: calcifer on March 13, 2008, 10:51:44 PM: Quote from: McDragon on March 13, 2008, 10:48:02 PM
wtf

this isn't calcifer!

every 248th post i make somewhat serious post, taco :-*
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 13, 2008, 10:52:30 PM: :-[
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Mupepe on March 13, 2008, 11:24:29 PM: Quote from: calcifer on March 13, 2008, 10:45:53 PM
interesting that lost odyssey did in usa what blue dragon did in japan and blue dragon did in usa what lost odyssey did in japan

going by chart position they did about the same in europe. blue dragon only dropped from 5 to 9, though, and was released during a busier time so actual sales numbers might be higher for blue dragon

200k is good for a jrpg in america on xbox but that's about it

i doubt square will rush to port ff13 to 360 (if they aren't already) over 200k though

also cutsie jrpgs (aka 90% of jrpgs) have yet to do "ok" on 360 in usa
I like more of these kinds of posts :-*
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: drohne on March 13, 2008, 11:41:35 PM: dmc4 :bow

wipeout pulse :'( -- i think i'm going to pity buy it

sales threads = SUICIDAL FAGGOTRY
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 13, 2008, 11:46:14 PM: (http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z262/littlemaths/Tails_and_Cream_with_baby_Wisp.jpg)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 11:46:27 PM: 2008- Last year of the PSP
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 13, 2008, 11:47:08 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 13, 2008, 08:23:01 PM
Call of Duty fps of the generation? Seems so.

:rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Rman on March 13, 2008, 11:54:13 PM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 11:46:27 PM
2008- Last year of the PSP

NOOOOO!!!

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Freakin pirates. Poor Wipeout :'(
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Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2008, 11:58:18 PM: Quietly, the story of the year has been the PS2. 8 years out and it is still an incredible sales beast.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2008, 12:06:11 AM: Quote from: Himuro on March 13, 2008, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 13, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Are LO's numbers really that good? I can't see MS giving Mistwalker a FF-like budget for their next game if LO doesn't sell at least a million worldwide.

It's better than Dragon Quest 8 did on the PS2 in the US, IIRC.

Er

DQVIII did 500k+ in North America didn't it? Are you talking about DQVIII's first month? If so, yeah

I just meant first month sales. I wasn't sure what it did LTD.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2008, 12:09:15 AM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2008, 11:58:18 PM
Quietly, the story of the year has been the PS2. 8 years out and it is still an incredible sales beast.

True but are people just buying PS2s as replacements? PS2's software sales are really low for a system that is still selling so many units per month.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2008, 12:10:14 AM: (http://i25.tinypic.com/24z92e9.png)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2008, 12:11:27 AM: :(

wha?
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: calcifer on March 14, 2008, 12:13:37 AM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2008, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 13, 2008, 11:58:18 PM
Quietly, the story of the year has been the PS2. 8 years out and it is still an incredible sales beast.

True but are people just buying PS2s as replacements? PS2's software sales are really low for a system that is still selling so many units per month.

no

ps2 software sales is overall far and beyond everything else

when nothing new gets released you wont see software at the very top though
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2008, 12:18:21 AM: (http://i30.tinypic.com/wuqczr.gif)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2008, 12:22:02 AM: (http://www.artswom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sonic_youth.png)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2008, 12:25:36 AM: for you, pd

(http://www.gamesetwatch.com/sonicomic1.jpg)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2008, 12:31:41 AM: :rofl
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2008, 12:35:07 AM: (http://i26.tinypic.com/2nbedg7.jpg)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: demi on March 14, 2008, 05:47:13 AM: Airborne is trash, you got it completely twisted

COD4 shits on it from afar in Single Player -and- multiplayer
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Kyle on March 14, 2008, 05:47:42 AM: CoD4 is awesome :bow cool SP mode + amazing MP mode :o

also, MoH Airborne was kinda cool, never had the chance to beat the game. :-\
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: huckleberry on March 14, 2008, 09:04:09 AM: CoD4 multiplayer rocks.....now, if I can drag my friends list away from friggin Halo 3 to actually play it.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Darunia on March 14, 2008, 09:04:56 AM: I liked CoD4, but it pales in comparison to all the fps greatness released in the second half of 07 (just talking about sp now)

I couldn't get into the mp at all tbh
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on March 14, 2008, 12:55:24 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on March 13, 2008, 11:46:14 PM
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z262/littlemaths/Tails_and_Cream_with_baby_Wisp.jpg)

[youtube=425,350]FJHjl8atGfk[/youtube]
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 01:31:53 PM: (http://i31.tinypic.com/102o8bd.jpg)(http://i31.tinypic.com/102o8bd.jpg)(http://i31.tinypic.com/102o8bd.jpg)
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: drew on March 14, 2008, 02:30:59 PM: Quote from: Borys on March 14, 2008, 05:38:45 AM
God what is wrong with people around the world?

I tried the COD4 demo on my machine, beaten it and it was SAME OLD, SAME OLD only in current setting. Same old infinite respawns, "COVERING FIRE!" and everything made of obsidian (indestructible bulbs).

That and it looked 10 times worse than Medal of Honor: Airborne which seems WAY underappreciated.

What the hell... is the full game so much better or is there something wrong with me?

I LOVE MOH: AIRBORNE BTW

Something is wrong with you.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 14, 2008, 02:36:20 PM: Is it bad that I think the SY art is kinda cool? :-[
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: T234 on March 14, 2008, 03:40:22 PM: The only two shooters I play with any frequency are Halo 3 and Warsow.

Yeah, without that infinite respawn shit, I think COD4's SP would be alot better.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 14, 2008, 06:30:55 PM: Quote from: Borys on March 14, 2008, 05:38:45 AM
God what is wrong with people around the world?

I tried the COD4 demo on my machine, beaten it and it was SAME OLD, SAME OLD only in current setting. Same old infinite respawns, "COVERING FIRE!" and everything made of obsidian (indestructible bulbs).

That and it looked 10 times worse than Medal of Honor: Airborne which seems WAY underappreciated.

What the hell... is the full game so much better or is there something wrong with me?

I LOVE MOH: AIRBORNE BTW

People love COD4 because of the multiplayer. I don't know how people haven't realized this yet.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Robo on March 14, 2008, 07:02:41 PM: He's from Poland.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: y2kev on March 14, 2008, 07:29:58 PM: I was, like, disappointed to see Turok that high. It's not that good. It's actually bad.

But oh well.

Year of ps3 continues
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2008, 11:31:36 PM: No PS3 games in the top ten and Sony tards think this is a victory? I'm sure Cohen/TVC/Drinky can tell us that developers are wary about spending millions to produce games that won't sell.

And wasn't this supposed to be the PS3's comeout party, with the Blu Ray announcement and all? lawl
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: y2kev on March 14, 2008, 11:34:56 PM: #4 PS3 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 233.5K 4

SMH
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2008, 11:36:57 PM: That's not a game it's bullshit
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: drew on March 14, 2008, 11:40:37 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2008, 11:36:57 PM
That's not a game it's bullshit

::)

Why don't you just go and play wow or something.
Title: Re: February NPD numbers
Post by: pilonv1 on March 15, 2008, 05:42:44 AM: :lol @ Borys.

Wow with this sort of momentum Sony will overtake 360 in hardware around 20 years from now. It's only a matter of time till software follows suit.