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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: abrader on March 14, 2008, 09:19:54 PM

Title: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 14, 2008, 09:19:54 PM
Its hasn't ben formally announced in the media - but check the current value of gold.

1.) How long till we pull out?

2.) what will happen and what markets will transform to survive?





Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: bud on March 14, 2008, 09:21:21 PM
 :usacry

(why isn't there one with ron paul, anway. i know he's a nobody, but still...)
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 14, 2008, 09:21:57 PM
We are not.

"Officially" has a meaning.  It's not verbal garnish.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 14, 2008, 09:22:31 PM
Its hasn't ben formally announced in the media - but check the current value of gold.

1.) How long till we pull out?

2.) what will happen and what markets will transform to survive?







:duh
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 14, 2008, 09:27:09 PM
umm I cite the technical criteria in the OP.


Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 14, 2008, 09:28:03 PM
Maybe tomorrow when I come back to the forum you all wont be acting like such fegs.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Candyflip on March 14, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 14, 2008, 09:29:26 PM
Yeah... what?
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 14, 2008, 09:29:58 PM
I just know that doctors don't make as much as they did 10 yrs ago. :'(  
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 09:32:10 PM
I just know that doctors don't make as much as they did 10 yrs ago. :'(  
they do in lot of countries, like the middle east ones.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 15, 2008, 05:21:58 AM
sorry - i had to step out for a bit.

value of usd vs price of gold is the metric i am using to call recession.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: TVC15 on March 15, 2008, 05:52:32 AM
Because gold has anything to do with the US economy? 

Right now we're just dealing with the fallout of the housing bubble busting.  It could very likely end up being a recession, but it's a bit preemptive to say it is one.  If the government weren't spread too thin having darkie killing adventures, I think federal intervention could have prevented any nastiness. 

Let's also not forget that the economy has been terrible all decade, and the only thing that's kept it looking good was the Weekend at Bernies-esque stock market success of the past decade.  For the common people, the economy has only gotten more harsh this decade.  If it is a recession, we've probably basically been in it for a bit less than a decade.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 15, 2008, 06:27:02 AM
value of usd vs price of gold is the metric i am using to call recession.



That sentence is so short, but so wrong.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: pilonv1 on March 15, 2008, 06:27:41 AM
the AUS$ is great now, please keep your recession going
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Kyle on March 15, 2008, 06:37:47 AM
abrader, change thread title to
Al-Qaeda Officially Wins

:rofl
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 15, 2008, 06:49:44 AM
value of usd vs price of gold is the metric i am using to call recession.



That sentence is so short, but so wrong.

ok add the mortgage foreclosure thing.

EDIT: also - watch automation flourish

We will be the NU-INDIA

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 15, 2008, 07:18:08 AM
Genghis - I thought a recession IS defined in relative terms. The typical metric is 2 straight quarters of negative GDP growth...so it's always relative to how the economy has been in the year-earlier period.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: cloudwalking on March 15, 2008, 07:35:39 AM
swiss franc is worth more than the US dollar now

:bow :swiss :swiss :swiss :bow2
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: elektrikluv on March 15, 2008, 07:50:21 AM
British pound (sterling) is soaring in comparison to the US dollar, I need to get my ass to America and do some shopping!
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: lordmaji on March 15, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
We are living in the "End times" people.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 15, 2008, 01:59:05 PM
A recession hasn't been announced because it is not a relative term.  It has to meet a certain criteria to be formalized.

What Mandark said.

.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 16, 2008, 07:27:54 PM
this is a total collapse of the entire US economy.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 16, 2008, 07:33:31 PM
I'm going to Korea tomorrow, just in time to enjoy a record high of the Won against the dollar, just like I enjoyed a record high of the Euro against the dollar last month in Paris.

:usacry
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 16, 2008, 07:56:11 PM
The low dollar's meant to be the one positive factor in all this, since it's boosting the export sector.  Sucks to be an American traveler right now, though.



FA:  I'm sure the economists have their reasons, and they might even be good ones.  I'd just as soon let them keep the term, and use something colloquial like "shitty" to describe stuff like the current situation.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: BlackMage on March 16, 2008, 08:04:59 PM
the AUS$ is great now, please keep your recession going

if we go down, we're taking you with us mutha fugga!!!!!
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 16, 2008, 08:40:31 PM
If you believe some gaffers, it's going to skip the recession part and go right to a depression.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 16, 2008, 08:54:45 PM
Yeah, those gaffers. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8110250&postcount=7)  What a larf. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4367364&postcount=5)
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 16, 2008, 09:55:16 PM
Because gold has anything to do with the US economy? 

Right now we're just dealing with the fallout of the housing bubble busting.  It could very likely end up being a recession, but it's a bit preemptive to say it is one.  If the government weren't spread too thin having darkie killing adventures, I think federal intervention could have prevented any nastiness. 

Let's also not forget that the economy has been terrible all decade, and the only thing that's kept it looking good was the Weekend at Bernies-esque stock market success of the past decade.  For the common people, the economy has only gotten more harsh this decade.  If it is a recession, we've probably basically been in it for a bit less than a decade.

I agree with this 100%

Since 2000 or so, the cost of living is shooting upwards and the earnings, adjusting inflation, is either stagnating or sinking for many industries.  It is just that the top 1-2% is seeing the lion's share of the wealth.  I know they usually do but this decade, it is definitely more disproportioned towards the upper echelon.  When food lines are getting longer at shelters but companies make record profits, something is not going right with the trickle down economy that is supposed to be the backbone of Reaganomics.  (For the record, I know Reaganomics is a joke)

Nobody really wants to touch these industry captains either because they have people so scared that if they get investigated, we will see Great Depression x 100.  We're seeing the return of, what Theodore Roosevelt accurately called them, the wealthy criminal class.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Tauntaun on March 17, 2008, 12:07:01 AM
this is a total collapse of the entire US economy.

If so I'm gonna form an army and take NY. :gun
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: drozmight on March 17, 2008, 12:24:02 AM
this is a total collapse of the entire US economy.

If so I'm gonna form an army and take NY. :gun

I'll take the Seattle-Portland-Tacoma-Vancouver Megopolis and open up trade with you.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Tauntaun on March 17, 2008, 12:41:12 AM
this is a total collapse of the entire US economy.

If so I'm gonna form an army and take NY. :gun

I'll take the Seattle-Portland-Tacoma-Vancouver Megopolis and open up trade with you.

SWEET!  Our plans unfold, WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE!
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 17, 2008, 12:56:17 AM
Because gold has anything to do with the US economy? 

Right now we're just dealing with the fallout of the housing bubble busting.  It could very likely end up being a recession, but it's a bit preemptive to say it is one.  If the government weren't spread too thin having darkie killing adventures, I think federal intervention could have prevented any nastiness. 

Let's also not forget that the economy has been terrible all decade, and the only thing that's kept it looking good was the Weekend at Bernies-esque stock market success of the past decade.  For the common people, the economy has only gotten more harsh this decade.  If it is a recession, we've probably basically been in it for a bit less than a decade.

Ron Paul addressed all these issues.

I agree with this 100%

Since 2000 or so, the cost of living is shooting upwards and the earnings, adjusting inflation, is either stagnating or sinking for many industries.  It is just that the top 1-2% is seeing the lion's share of the wealth.  I know they usually do but this decade, it is definitely more disproportioned towards the upper echelon.  When food lines are getting longer at shelters but companies make record profits, something is not going right with the trickle down economy that is supposed to be the backbone of Reaganomics.  (For the record, I know Reaganomics is a joke)

Nobody really wants to touch these industry captains either because they have people so scared that if they get investigated, we will see Great Depression x 100.  We're seeing the return of, what Theodore Roosevelt accurately called them, the wealthy criminal class.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on March 17, 2008, 12:56:32 AM
Ron Paul addressed all those issues.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: lordmaji on March 17, 2008, 11:46:38 AM
Ron Paul addressed all those issues.

Ron Paul wont be president.  :P
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2008, 11:48:20 AM
Ron Paul addressed all those issues.

Ron Paul wont be president.  :P

sounds like big business is trying to keep the maverick out of the white house
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 17, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
Ron Paul should team up with Ben Stein to fight crime.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2008, 11:51:35 AM
Ron Paul should team up with Ben Stein to fight crime.

or to fight evolution
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mupepe on March 17, 2008, 11:52:42 AM
Ron Paul should let me smell his dick.
Agreed.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 17, 2008, 11:53:35 AM
it's 5 AM and paper money's worthless
let me smell yo dick
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2008, 11:53:41 AM
Ron Paul should let me smell his dick.
Agreed.

it would probably smell like auric goldfinger's ass
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 17, 2008, 11:55:18 AM
Ron Paul should let me smell his dick.
Agreed.

it would probably smell like auric goldfinger's ass

I have this great idea for a movie about a man who poos gold, I call it Goldpsphincter.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mupepe on March 17, 2008, 11:56:16 AM
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Eric P on March 17, 2008, 12:00:12 PM
Ron Paul should let me smell his dick.
Agreed.

it would probably smell like auric goldfinger's ass

I have this great idea for a movie about a man who poos gold, I call it Goldpsphincter.

i understand that ron paul's first order of business in the white house would be the purchasing, planting and cultivating of magic beans to gain access to the goose that lays golden eggs providing solvency.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 07:53:05 PM
For those who say its not technically a recession - what are your credentials?


Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: lordmaji on March 17, 2008, 08:07:11 PM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



End times... ...end fucking times man.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 08:09:37 PM
All you need are about 4 .50 cal rifles and gear/supplies to live 20 years in a glacier....

the .50 cal rifles will make sure no vehicle made by man on this planet will get near ya.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 08:10:29 PM
I had a dream a few weeks ago that I was camped up in the north pole - I kept shooting heli's out of the sky with my .50's to keep them away from me.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 08:13:27 PM
I think one of the most exciting things someone else in this thread mentioned is that with the falling US dollar - other countries get quite a deal outsourcing projects to the US now.

ALL HAIL NU INDIA!

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 17, 2008, 08:20:52 PM
India will still be cheaper than America despite the dollar. Maybe you'll finally get people to buy those god awful cars you make.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 09:11:30 PM
haha I dont make the shitbox GM cars.

I dont buy them either.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 17, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
I'm not sure
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 17, 2008, 09:16:27 PM
How to feel about this
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 09:17:21 PM
You like GM vehicles - tell us how it is ;)

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 17, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
abrader, let your embarrassing thread die please. :(
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/33vj4hc.gif)
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 17, 2008, 10:26:15 PM
I like good vehicles.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 10:26:31 PM
abrader, let your embarrassing thread die please. :(

Here is a fun game - why dont you try to make one OT post?

Reread the original post and respond to #1, #2 or both.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: lordmaji on March 17, 2008, 10:30:02 PM
Yep. It's time to invest in guns!
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 17, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
I like good vehicles.

Noone is denying that - but tell us how it is out at GM.

How do they fare in the global auto market? I have no idea.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 17, 2008, 11:36:51 PM
I like good vehicles.

Noone is denying that - but tell us how it is out at GM.

How do they fare in the global auto market? I have no idea.



Posting gains in every market but the US, big enough ones to provide a net gain including the US. Posting gains in the US too for the last 6 months or so.
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: drozmight on March 18, 2008, 02:23:57 AM
Guys, it won't be an official recession until AFTER the elections...
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 18, 2008, 02:38:32 AM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



End times... ...end fucking times man.

this is bizarrely apropros, i lol'ed
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Mandark on March 18, 2008, 03:30:59 AM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.

Why do you keep using terms like "officially" and "technically"?  Are you the NBER?
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 18, 2008, 07:01:44 AM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



Ab, I love ya, but the "official" term for recession is pretty commonly known to anyone who's paid attention to the economy for the last 10-20 years (or past few months).  I first learned what the official term of recession meant post 9/11 when we were last in danger of it happening.  This isn't some skimming of wikipedia - this  is official terminology.

Now, for all intents and purposes I agree we are in a recession.  But to say you have an MBA which makes you more credible than anyone else here on a topic that's pretty much "general knowledge" is silly.  I'll have my MBA within a couple of years, but I don't think that makes me an authority on such topics...at least, not moreso  than your average person who follows the economy. 

LOL - actually I think there is a direct correlation between the fact that you are a few hops/clicks away from having an MBA and the fact that you have something useful to add here.

The average person does NOT really follow the economy - the average person follows the tabloids and the reality TV.

Do you think this recession could lead to depression?

I dont think so this time - but its almost what this country really needs for a social adjustment.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: demi on March 18, 2008, 07:03:31 AM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



Ok, HANS
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 18, 2008, 07:53:58 AM
So like I asked for two easy perspectives in the OP and somehow thru much faggory this turned into "OMG YOU DONT KNOW WHAT RECESSION IS!!" - the usual wrist slitter EvilBore co-ops of course.

I think an upturn in economy is 12 months out - I think celebrity type entertainment industries will change alot in those 12 months.

Reality TV allowing and loving any redneck, camwhore idiot with tits coming onto broadcast TV for free and de-valuing the television actor combined with the ever amazing powers of the internet cutting into more and more more and more markets and slaying the value of other things will contribute to forced change. (music industry is next myspace/YouTube fegs)

ITs odd that I think most about this and I do not even work in entertainment.

The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are all reality TV actors.

Lordmaji is right.

Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 18, 2008, 07:55:29 AM

but we aren't the average people are we?


ITs easy to tell who has gotten laid or not sometimes. ;)

DEMI = not recently
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Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 18, 2008, 09:32:01 AM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



wkyd
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 18, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
Ok - well I have an MBA and my CFO has a finance degree from University of Chicago.

We both say its technically a recession.

Show some creds or stop sounding like an angry useless teen debating semantics on Wikipedia.



Ok, HANS

:lol
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 18, 2008, 02:21:12 PM
Quote
I think the average EB user is more informed than the average person.  Give folks a little credit...oh wait, that's a big part of what got us in this mess. Hurhur

As I said before, I'm no authority on this topic, but I don't remember a time in my coherent life where things looked more bleak - and I've pretty much been coherent about the news and economy since I was in 6th-7th grade.  Commodities are going through the roof, the dollar is going through the floor, the Fed is IMO getting too involved, wages are worse in relation to the cost of living than they've been in a long time, and the job market in many areas is utter shit.  Oh, and we're stuck in some perpetual occupation of some other countries that only serve as a money sink and haven for government/contractor corruption that's costing us billions while the government is doing whatever it can to reduce taxes.

I don't think the sky is falling (yet) but I understand why some people think so.  Our economy hasn't been "great" since the late 90's and most of that was just paper wealth.  The only thing that really propelled people's worth this decade has been real estate which was supposed to be immune to recessions.

On an upside, I just got hired for an internship at $17.25/hr

 :usacry
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: abrader on March 19, 2008, 08:23:44 AM

I think the average EB user is more informed than the average person.  Give folks a little credit...oh wait, that's a big part of what got us in this mess. Hurhur


I agree with everything you typed except for this bit - while there is a decent sized selection of GREAT posters on this forum - the average user is a shitstain little GAF leftover.

I can barely be bothered at times.



Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2008, 08:28:04 AM
Hold your nose up a little higher, abrader. :(
Title: Re: You guys know we are officially in a recession right?
Post by: Candyflip on March 19, 2008, 08:49:22 AM

I think the average EB user is more informed than the average person.  Give folks a little credit...oh wait, that's a big part of what got us in this mess. Hurhur


I agree with everything you typed except for this bit - while there is a decent sized selection of GREAT posters on this forum - the average user is a shitstain little GAF leftover.

I can barely be bothered at times.




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