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Title: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: GilloD on March 17, 2008, 09:27:11 AM
I've been considering the purchase of a Flash Cart for the DS. Frankly, I'm terrified of losing those little carts. But other Q's: Is it possible to run emulators on them? Could I put a GBA emulator on there or SNES9x or whatever?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: GilloD on March 17, 2008, 09:27:11 AM
I've been considering the purchase of a Flash Cart for the DS. Frankly, I'm terrified of losing those little carts. But other Q's: Is it possible to run emulators on them? Could I put a GBA emulator on there or SNES9x or whatever?

Yes

You need a GBA cart to play GBA games

Yes to SNES

Get an M3 Real (w/ GBA Expansion Pack) -- this allows you to pir8 DS games, and it comes with the GBA cart to let you pir8 GBA games. You can also run emulators. Its very limited compared to the PSP, but you can play NES, GAmeBoy (Color), SNES, and Genesis. Only the NES and GB/C emulators are pretty good, the DS is really weak and cant even emulate SNES and Genesis as good as PSP
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 17, 2008, 03:08:16 PM
CycloDS is the best one, right? I need to buy a new one for a friend.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 03:11:11 PM
arguably, yes
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: trh on March 17, 2008, 03:33:53 PM
The Snes emulation is in my opinion completely worthless, it's so flawed it's hardly worth bothering with, you have to calibrate loads of shit with no proper way of knowing what's the best (although there's wikis where people list the best options) and even after that there's loads of issues left like the framerate is all wonky or there's missing lines or text appears behind speech bubbles etc etc. I haven't bothered with it in several months but I can't imagine it's gotten much better. Nes emulation on the other hand seems to be a whole lot smoother, I've played through Mega Man 2 a couple of times with no issues, but that's really all I've tried.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on March 17, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
Can CycloDS play GBA games?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 04:53:29 PM
no DS cart can play GBA games, you need a GBA expansion pack in conjunction with the DS cart
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on March 17, 2008, 04:58:01 PM
Fuck GBA games then. >:(
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 05:00:14 PM
Just get the M3 Real... it comes with it
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 17, 2008, 06:19:44 PM
I have an M3 Simply (without the GBA cart), and it's great.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 06:24:28 PM
yeah i had the simply too, but i wanted a GBA cart for the eventual Mother 3 translation, and any other GBA games. so i just got the Real, cause its basically the next step. it supports SDHC, the GBA (and rumble if you got that as well), and better support (it doesnt get the MOOGLE SCREEN that has been plaguging crystal chronicles, while the simply does - which has since been fixed)
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: gibletsngravy on March 19, 2008, 01:56:59 AM
Is the M3 better or worse than an R4?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 19, 2008, 01:58:27 AM
The M3 Simply and R4 are pretty much identical

The M3 Real and CycloDS among others are better
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Vizzys on March 19, 2008, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: gibletsngravy on March 19, 2008, 01:56:59 AM
Is the M3 better or worse than an R4?

r4 is updated quicker

same company makes  both

get cyclo ds, real time saving rox

edit;fux
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on March 19, 2008, 02:03:58 AM
gbatemp.net
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Vizzys on March 19, 2008, 02:04:24 AM
just buy one
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 06:09:48 PM
Sorry to bump this thread, but I've finally decided to get the M3 Real w/ the GBA Expansion Pack. Problem is I don't know where to buy it. Anyone know of any good online retailers that sells it?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Vizzys on April 02, 2008, 06:13:22 PM
divineo is OK, ive ordered from them, they have their site split into different countries however and the us one might not offer romcarts

I hear good things about real hot stuff
http://www.realhotstuff.com/
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Mondain on April 02, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
I just use a laptop with all the coolest emulators an an Hori 360 controller via USB
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 06:19:00 PM
i ordered my Real from Divineo
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: Viz on April 02, 2008, 06:13:22 PM
divineo is OK, ive ordered from them, they have their site split into different countries however and the us one might not offer romcarts

I hear good things about real hot stuff
http://www.realhotstuff.com/
Thanks, but they don't have one with the M3 Real and the GBA expansion pack only. There is one with the M3 Real, gba pack and a rumble pack for $60, but I don't give a fuck about rumble.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 06:21:25 PM
Yea thats the one I got, Perfect Bundle

If you can't find the GBA Bundle, just bite the bullet and go Perfect
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 06:24:16 PM
Alright, thanks.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 06:43:47 PM
So the consensus is M3 Perfect? I was looking at R4, but now I hear nice things about M3.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 06:50:11 PM
I'd go for M3, R4 is starting to show its age - it doesnt even support SDHC
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 06:53:17 PM
About how big are most DS games? I'm trying to figure out if I should get a 2GB or 4GB miniSD card.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
2GB will suit you fine, i've fit up to 20 games on mine, depending on size. some of the higher-sized games recently are Ninja Gaiden, FF Ring of Fates, and Luminous Arc (games with voices, as you can tell)
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 08:07:39 PM
I picked up an M3 Real Perfect about a month ago. I have both a 2GB and 4GB card, but I've only used the 2GB so far. If I could do it all over again, I would get a CycloDS and an EZ-Flash 3-in-1 slot 2 card, simply because I believe the CycloDS has better features. The M3 Real is just fine, though. I'm loving it!
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
What are these features?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
What are these features?

Mainly a better interface (supposedly) and real-time saving with DS games. Say you're playing Contra and you just got to the boss of the level, save the game so if you die you can just load from that same spot instead of having to do the mission all over again. I LOVE me some save states on PC Emulators. The M3 has real-time saves on every game but DS games, but it's very possible that it could be released in a future update for it. The M3 team seems to be good about releasing updates. I haven't really seen anything about the CycloDS' update system.

The M3 Real is just so awesome because everything comes in the Perfect package. You don't have to worry about buying a separate slot 2 card or having to get firmware or whatever to get it to work. Everything just works out of the box.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 08:12:52 PM
M3 is making a brand new firmware

look up "m3 sakura" on youtube
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
I see. I'm sticking with the M3 Real since it comes with everything like you said.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 08:17:35 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_f4ESbGH3CM

preview beta of m3 sakura

looks faggy pink but it will be skinnable
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: demi on April 02, 2008, 08:12:52 PM
M3 is making a brand new firmware

look up "m3 sakura" on youtube

Interesting. I hope it has real-time saves. :D
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 08:22:28 PM
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/hb-ds-m3realp.html

this is it? bookmarked.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 08:27:26 PM
That's the one McDragon. Great card!
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 08:34:37 PM
http://www.linfoxdomain.com/nintendo/ds/

firmwares  :P

thanks FatalT.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?dlcategory=70

Demi showed me gbatemp. Site is great!
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: Vizzys on April 02, 2008, 10:06:32 PM
its a good site,sure

abgx.net is better and faster in reporting releases, plus its not just DS games

also if you lurk in the chatrooms on the day of release you might get stuff early
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 10:31:33 PM
I just bought a CycloDS with a 4 giger for my friend. I am thinking of selling my Simply and getting one for myself too. :lol
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 10:55:01 PM
So wait. Someone tell me what I should get if I'm a total tard who just wants an easy solution.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 10:55:01 PM
So wait. Someone tell me what I should get if I'm a total tard who just wants an easy solution.

M3 Real Perfect.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 10:55:01 PM
So wait. Someone tell me what I should get if I'm a total tard who just wants an easy solution.
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/hb-ds-m3realp.html
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 11:09:25 PM
Why not CycloDS? Because it doesn't come pre-packed with Slot 2?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 10:55:01 PM
So wait. Someone tell me what I should get if I'm a total tard who just wants an easy solution.

If you want to play GBA games along with DS titles: M3 Real

DS games only: CycloDS (http://www.cyclopsds.com)
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:14:34 PM
GBAtemp.net's CycloDS review: Gold

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=53450

GBAtemp.net's M3 Real review: Silver

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=68277



Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
Wow Curse, one got a Silver and one got a Gold

Can -you- tell me what makes one better than the other?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
Wow Curse, one got a Silver and one got a Gold

Can -you- tell me what makes one better than the other?
better packaging!
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:21:38 PM
Gold is shinier than silver.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just posted the verdict just in case he didn't feel like reading the whole review. The CycloDS from what I understand has real-time saving and the best support in terms of updates. Sorry for getting sand into your vagina.
[close]
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:24:47 PM
RTS saving is useless, and M3 gets updated just as much as the Cyclo

Go for the M3 Real, I just showed you that they were making an entire new firmware, did you ignore that?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: drew on April 02, 2008, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?dlcategory=70

Demi showed me gbatemp. Site is great!

Anyone know of of a good site for a clueless asshole like myself?  I need a good FAQ or something.

edit: doye, I just found something in the boards over there.  Fuck me, I don't have time to learn all this stuff!
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:24:47 PM
RTS saving is useless, and M3 gets updated just as much as the Cyclo

Go for the M3 Real, I just showed you that they were making an entire new firmware, did you ignore that?

How is it useless? I would literally beat someone to death for RTS in Etrian Odyssey.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: Drewsy on April 02, 2008, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?dlcategory=70

Demi showed me gbatemp. Site is great!

Anyone know of of a good site for a clueless asshole like myself?  I need a good FAQ or something.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showforum=69

like this?
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 02, 2008, 11:33:44 PM
Quote from: Drewsy on April 02, 2008, 11:29:34 PM
Anyone know of of a good site for a clueless asshole like myself?  I need a good FAQ or something.

edit: doye, I just found something in the boards over there.  Fuck me, I don't have time to learn all this stuff!

I got most of my information from the DS Homebrew thread on Something Awful.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: drew on April 02, 2008, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: McDragon on April 02, 2008, 11:32:58 PM
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showforum=69

like this?

yeah, I found that like 20 seconds later.  :dur

I'll check SA too then
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:42:45 PM
Quote from: GilloD on April 02, 2008, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:24:47 PM
RTS saving is useless, and M3 gets updated just as much as the Cyclo

Go for the M3 Real, I just showed you that they were making an entire new firmware, did you ignore that?

How is it useless? I would literally beat someone to death for RTS in Etrian Odyssey.

Some people might have more use for it than others I guess. For me, I would have used it all the time in FFIII if I had the thing.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: FatalT on April 03, 2008, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: Drewsy on April 02, 2008, 11:34:52 PM
yeah, I found that like 20 seconds later.  :dur

I'll check SA too then

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2758611

Awesome thread.
Title: Re: DS Rom Cart Question
Post by: tehjaybo on April 03, 2008, 12:50:08 AM
I knew it was possible, but I didn't know how to go about it.  God, why must I learn these things when I'm broke?