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Title: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 17, 2008, 11:27:38 PM
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My hopes: Please don't be anything like Persona 3. Persona 3's my favorite Persona and favorite SMT, but it would be overkill if we get another in the Persona 3 formula. I want a traditional Persona with Kaneko designs, modern setting, return of guns as main weapons instead of stupid traditional weaspons, and less cute-syfied Persona overall.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on March 17, 2008, 11:32:22 PM
cant wait to get all the achievements on 360
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 17, 2008, 11:33:21 PM
Isn't Persona 4 going to be for PS2 as well?

I bet it uses the Persona 3 engine and everything and is done on the cheap.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on March 17, 2008, 11:51:39 PM
Wait.  So this is PS2 only or is there a PS3 game as well?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: y2kev on March 18, 2008, 12:21:02 AM
I think it's gonna be PS2 and wii....

But Atlus can be successful with low budgets on ps3 and 360 if they have to be I bet. Disgaea was pretty successful on ps3 considering how cheaply it was made.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: pilonv1 on March 18, 2008, 12:29:51 AM
Wait.  So this is PS2 only or is there a PS3 game as well?

Since next gen is a non event in Japan and Wii only moves Nintendo games anything outside of PS2/DS would be utterly amazing.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 18, 2008, 12:38:27 AM
Where is this information coming from? Famitsu?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 04:51:56 AM
FUCK. NO KANEKO. IT LOOKS JUST LIKE PERSONA 3 ALDFJAS;DLFJ;
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 04:58:31 AM
YOU JUST SAID PERSONA 3 WAS YOUR FAVORITE IN THE SERIES

YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY NOT HIMUROWNED
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 05:07:05 AM
YOU JUST SAID PERSONA 3 WAS YOUR FAVORITE IN THE SERIES

YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY NOT HIMUROWNED

I've explored 200 floors in Persona 3. Persona 3: FES has 200 extra floors. I have managed 15 + social links.

Persona 3's idea was great, but it's not something that yields itself to multiple games. It's the type of thing that'd get old fast. Plus, no Kazuma Kaneko designs, and if it's like P3, that means it wont' be as dark as past games. I just wanted something different is all.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 18, 2008, 05:09:17 AM
As I predicted, the incredibly shitty P3 ruined the SMT series.  Congrats, Himu, you japafag cuntrag.  You ruined the only good JRPG series.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 05:09:56 AM
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FUCK LJADSFLAJFL;SJF  FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK LDSFJA;
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 18, 2008, 05:11:21 AM
Persona 4 = Shenmue 2 confirmed.  Ban Himuro.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on March 18, 2008, 05:12:42 AM
i never liked this shitty series anyway.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: MCD on March 18, 2008, 06:26:12 AM
i never liked this shitty series anyway.
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Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 06:38:01 AM
- The game takes place in the country side away from the cities, which is interesting for SMT
- the theme is mystery suspense (:o P2-esque please)
- Supposed to be a mystery full of twists and turns
- There is a weather system and whenever there's fog, a murder happens
- 1.5 x the size of P3
- multiple endings
- 60-70 hours
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: MCD on March 18, 2008, 06:49:50 AM
garbage.

tvc is right.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 07:35:00 AM


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Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: MCD on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 AM
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Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Rman on March 18, 2008, 09:53:29 AM
Isn't it ironic that for such a technologically advanced country--higher hd penetration, faster networks, better cell phones--Japanese game developers are still clinging to SD.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 18, 2008, 10:08:13 AM
- The game takes place in the country side away from the cities, which is interesting for SMT
- the theme is mystery suspense (:o P2-esque please)
- Supposed to be a mystery full of twists and turns
- There is a weather system and whenever there's fog, a murder happens
- 1.5 x the size of P3
- multiple endings
- 60-70 hours


:lol At least the last one looked cute because PS2 games were still acceptable back then.

Here are the parts of the checklist you forgot to write:

- 480i
- 4:3
- stereo
- etc etc

how about you suck my dick and stop it with that idiotic lol last gen rabble?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 10:24:56 AM
Groo's just trolling.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 10:48:26 AM
Sorry you're getting owned by next-gen, dcharlie.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 10:57:15 AM
Ha ha!
















































spoiler (click to show/hide)


And I'm not even really sorry.
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Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: ananus on March 18, 2008, 11:53:56 AM
this is going to be awesome :elephant :elephant :elephant

:piss haters :piss2
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: calcifer on March 18, 2008, 02:28:48 PM
 :bow sony taking us out of this gaming ghetto called next gen :bow2
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: y2kev on March 18, 2008, 02:39:38 PM
i really dont believe wagglestation 2 :\
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Enl on March 18, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
Meh, doesn't bother me. I just started SMT:Nocturne for the first time after just playing Lost Odyssey and I'm still enjoying the hell out of it. It's been awhile since I've played an jRPG with quick random battles and a hard as nails difficulty.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 18, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
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this isn't trolling, this is actually starting to get worrying.
I am at the point where i really do think next gen is not going to happen.

Smart people (such as myself) don't buy consoles until they drop below $150.  Presumably that'll happen eventually with PS3/360, so I'm sure in the long run you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 09:31:53 PM
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sony taking us out of this gaming ghetto called next gen


news at 10 : massive sfag admits Ps3 is shit.

good man.


I think he was talking about the console with the built-in self-destruct device, the XBox three-shitsty.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on March 18, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
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this isn't trolling, this is actually starting to get worrying.
I am at the point where i really do think next gen is not going to happen.

Smart people (such as myself) don't buy consoles until they drop below $150.  Presumably that'll happen eventually with PS3/360, so I'm sure in the long run you have nothing to worry about.

And the people with money who buy these consoles (such as myself) are covered in pussy and have the time of our lives

Just look at you and Ichirou

My case... as they say... is rested
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2008, 09:50:49 PM
Actually, the phrase is usually "case closed" or "the prosecution rests."  Besides, the only reason you have so much money is because all you do is pirate, choggler.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 18, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
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And the people with money who buy these consoles (such as myself) are covered in pussy and have the time of our lives

Sorry to say but having a high credit limit is not actually the same thing as having money.  You'll come to regret all those underage console and hooker purchases in time.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 18, 2008, 11:10:02 PM
Yes, Japan spends all its lolicon energies on inappropriate fetishization of actual underage girls, so there's none left over for PS3 and its ilk.  In the west we've learned not to indulge in those vices, and divert our lolicon to the loliconsoles.

(for me, it's immature programming languages)
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: calcifer on March 19, 2008, 05:45:21 AM
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sony taking us out of this gaming ghetto called next gen


news at 10 : massive sfag admits Ps3 is shit.

good man.


I think he was talking about the console with the built-in self-destruct device, the XBox three-shitsty.

well and the ps3 too now since the 360 will be tainting the ps3 factories

ps2 + pc + psp :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 08:16:20 PM
changes from p3

1. No moon cycle. This is a very big change for SMT, because the moon cycles have been important in pretty much every one, right?

This, however, is GREAT for Persona 4 for a few reasons. This means that since things are entirely based on weather, things won't be predictable. This is just a guess, but you won't be able to prepare for the monthly boss by just going to the dungeon one night before the event and say fuck it the rest of the month.

2. There's no Shadow Time. In one part they show the crew in a dungeon "after school", in one part they're there at "daytime" which was during summer break since it was during July 29. What does this mean for the formula? Will it be possible to skip school in P4?

3. There's more than one dungeon and they're all unique to each other. Here's hoping there's meat to them. I'm talkin, puzzles and TRAPS SMTN style. My buddy noticed an underground lab, a strip club, and a castle mansion.

4. Characters can now help each other up if they are knocked down.

5. You can now control more than just the main character. In one part of the trailer, I showed you in control of the red head dude. Either that was the red lights shining on the main's hair, or you can control them.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: hyp on March 19, 2008, 08:21:03 PM
changes from p3

5. You can now control more than just the main character. In one part of the trailer, I showed you in control of the red head dude. Either that was the red lights shining on the main's hair, or you can control them.

praise the lord!
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 08:32:16 PM
This enshittening and dumbing down of the gameplay had better not spread to other SMT games.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 19, 2008, 08:33:07 PM
i.e. the "himurozation"
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 08:43:15 PM
i will gladly take this himurozation. you don't like black cock in your ass prole? smh :(

:( prole
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 08:48:07 PM
buy persona 3 fes FA.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 08:51:51 PM
There's no reason to "work up the chain". The series is not connected.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
SMT is the main series. There are 4 entries: Shin Megami Tensei 1, 2, ...If, and 3.

All the other seires are there to compliment the main series and help add new features to it. The most popular side series are:

Devil Summoner - Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers, Devil Summoner 3
Persona - Persona 1, Persona 2: Innocent Sin, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, Persona 3
Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2

These series are not connected at all aside from things the hardcare fans would notice.  aside from the two Persona 2's and DDS', which ARE connected.

Starting with P3 is the best way because 1. it is completely different and enough to interest someone in the SMT series 2. it's not nearly as rare as SMT3 or DDS. 3. It's more story based than a traditional SMT so it'll be easier for someone used to other jrpgs to get into, thus, making the transition easier.

SMT games are like Final Fantasy's. They're like, never connected. There are things that universal in all of the games, like certain themes, certain gameplay elements (the moon cycles), but they are never connected story wise, aside from P2 and DDS1+2.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:02:42 PM
I think you'd like P3, FA. It's by far one of the most unique jrpg experiences I've ever had and I've played lots. It has a certain "one more day" element, similar to Civ fan's "one more turn" thing. It's not for everyone, but at the price of 30 dollars, I think it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:06:01 PM
Alot of the "one more day" component comes from hack design decisions that disallow action for days on end.  smh.

Yup.  What the fuck is with only being able to go into the dungeon once or twice a week?  More dungeon crawling, less shitty high school interaction.


Also, the dungeon crawling kind of sucked ass.  Not much variety at all.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
That's why you do things in P3 in order of importance.

You can go into the dungeon more than once or twice a week.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:09:02 PM
You can go into the dungeon more than once or twice a week.

Not if you were playing the game effectively.  Your terribly designed cigarillo friends (and you, iirc) need to rest and shit.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:13:25 PM
At the very beginning of the game, your guys need to rest a lot. But once you hit level 5, they rarely ever get tired and you can mostly grind to your hearts content. Once I hit level 5, my guys got tired maybe once or twice to the point I forgot they could get tired unless someone at the beginning of the game was bitching about it. I played 100 + hours of P3 and I only had trouble with that in the first 5hours.

Genghis: it means that it's not exactly bad design. It's a trait of sim games. You do one thing at a time during a specific period, and you have to choose what you do in order of importance. It's not bad design because it requires you to think about a schedule, instead of doing things randomly. Maybe it just isn't your type of play style.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:21:50 PM
So going by the trailer, I'm going to assume that P4's main can't use multiple Persona like P3's main. That's good and bad to me. I love having to equip a Persona for a few reasons. This keeps you on your toes, and makes things more strategic. If you got jumped by a Shadow that used ice magic and you had a Persona weak to ice equipped at the time, you'd be fucked in P3. That was awesome.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
You know what's bad about Persona 4?  It's a sequel to Persona 3 and not Persona 2.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
It's really not even a dating sim. You just hang out with people to strengthen your Persona. Near end game, it's pretty much nothing but grinding because you've got over 50-100 floors to cover. If you like a persona, up its rank. That's all there is to it.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:34:52 PM
We don't need that in our games.  Some of us have friends in real life.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:36:08 PM
Then why not have no characters at all? Period. In fact, it's not even about having friends. It's about using people for your own selfish reasons.

You want to run away from home little girl? Go ahead and do it, I won't cry, I just leveled up my Persona.

Oh sure dude, you want to go to kendo practice on a torn hamstring at the risk of not being able to play sports? Sure dude go ahead. As long as I up my Persona level!
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Even if you find the social stuff tolerable, you have to deal with the lame dungeon crawling, level after level with little variety.  Shit loot.  Empty mazes with monsters to fight or dodge.  Persona 3 is basically the worst Mysterious Dungeon clone ever.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2008, 09:40:04 PM
I'm just happy it's coming out for PS2 lol
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on March 19, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
himuro left out the bit where you had to buy the game again just to see the real ending
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 09:45:36 PM
Even if you find the social stuff tolerable, you have to deal with the lame dungeon crawling, level after level with little variety.  Shit loot.  Empty mazes with monsters to fight or dodge.  Persona 3 is basically the worst Mysterious Dungeon clone ever.

I don't think it is a Mystery Dungeon clone. It's all about making it to the top and fighting bosses. Some of the bosses can be REAL tough.

I agree that the dungeons are primitive, because they are. They're bare bones. But when the fighting is as good as P3's, I really don't care. Sometimes I would challenge myself on purpose, by splitting my team up, and fighitng tough enemies all by myself. I think it has a lot going for it, primitive dungeons and all and I'm glad that P4 is spicing things up by giving us more than one dungeon.

Plus, the game's dungeon has a lot going for it even if the you're just clearing floor after floor. There's Death, who you can tackle. There's the red Shadows which make fights more interesting because they're MUCH stronger enemies compared to everyone else. There's Gold Shadows which drop TONS of loot but are extremely hard to hit and rare, to boot. There's Elizabeth's quests, which give you awesome stuff, and even allow you to make new powerful Persona.

So even if the dungeons themselves are barebones, there's enough to like.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:46:56 PM

So even if the dungeons themselves are barebones, there's enough to like.

Not really, it's a crude Mysterious Dungeon clone without any of the interesting dungeon crawling elements.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Vizzys on March 19, 2008, 09:49:58 PM
looks interesting from the trailer, p3 battle system+flashyness

yellow instead of blue as the dominant color is cool, good music

s links look to be back in some form and persona fusion

thats cool as well
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 19, 2008, 09:50:51 PM
I haven't played Persona 3, but I wanna lash out at Cohen on general FUCK YOU GAMES ARE ABOUT LIMITATIONS AND CONSTRAINTS, GO PLAY WITH LEGOS IF YOU WANT TOTAL FREEDOM OF ACTION principles.  That and his avatar makes me wanna shoot myself in the head
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 19, 2008, 09:52:58 PM
Oh god, it has the same shitty music stylings of P3, too.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2008, 10:11:55 PM
Someone came into my store today looking to pre-order Persona 4.  At first I thought it was Himuro pulling a joke on me, but her vagina wasn't big enough to be Himuro.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 10:19:44 PM
Someone came into my store today looking to pre-order Persona 4.  At first I thought it was Himuro pulling a joke on me, but her vagina wasn't big enough to be Himuro.

Every time you post about me it's in disgust. Why do you hate me so, Willco?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 10:21:26 PM
I don't understand how P3 is linear to a fault either. Its structure is MUCH more open ended compared to other jrpgs.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 10:39:50 PM
Did you like drawing circles in Okami? Around trees?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: y2kev on March 19, 2008, 10:40:24 PM
I prefer not controlling my characters....battles were superfast and they could heal midturn.

Himu, they don't like Persona 3. Don't keep going. :)
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 10:41:49 PM
I prefer not controlling my characters....battles were superfast and they could heal midturn.

word

they always did what i wanted them to do anyways
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 11:09:11 PM
it's on ps2 dude wtf :lol
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2008, 11:19:23 PM
what?

but we both love dragon quest

how can you do this to one of your dq love buddies

HOW
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 01:55:49 AM
i am so in love with the country setting

i need p4 now
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 20, 2008, 02:01:50 AM
The high school I teach at is in a little town that's kind of country.  You should visit me and pretend you're playing Persona 4. :D
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Error2k4 on March 20, 2008, 02:09:03 AM
I dont know why TVC defends P2 so much, the dungoen design in that game is fucking terrible. I'd take P3 random dungeons over that trash any day.

my biggest complaint with P2 is how annoyingly grindy the whole thing was. want cards? how bout talking to the same monster like 10x times and once you figured out the correct answers for a given conversation, the whole conversation aspect becomes a tedious affair of just finding that particular monster in a battle. you couldnt pass skills from a parent Persona to its child Persona either. not only that but once you summoned a Persona you had to spam the shit out of Fusion Spells for that Persona to grow and get decent in battles. P3 does away with all that crap and if you played your cards right in a fusion, you could have a kickass Persona from the get go, thanks to the boost in EXP it gets from S.Link and the abilities it inherits from its Parents in the fusion.

the dungeon in P2 are 'head scratching' bad, they remind me of Tales of Destiny dungeons, long tedious and not fun unlike SMT3 dungeons or heck even DDS. the underwater lab particularly was a fucking nightmare that almost made gave up on the game the first time.

and after the first full moon battle, you characters rarely get tired from dungeon crawling so it becomes a non-issue. I liked the fact that you could pace yourself and do a lot of sim or go dungeon crawling. it wasnt always talk to NPC #14 trigger cutscenes, go to dungeon rinse/repeat for the whole game. even tho P3 world is pretty damn small I felt it allowed for more freedom, than say DQ8.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:10:57 AM
I agree completely. The only thing I prefer P2 in is the story.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:18:09 AM
P3 is pretty much my perfect Jrpg. I can't really come up with a major flaw for that game.

- Mature themes
- Minimalist story
- Non linear game structure
- Dual side gameplay makes the game have enough variety to stay interesting even 90 fucking hours in.
- Hard difficulty.
- Memorable characters.
- LOOT
- Battle system was nearly perfection on a dvd. Absolute balanced and more interesting than SMTN and DDS1+2's press turns. Genius effort because it wasn't about turns anymore, it was just about weaknesses.
- Unique premise.
- JUNPEI

and much more. If Persona 3 were my last jrpg, I wouldn't even fucking care.

EB can blacklist me for all I care, Persona 3 was the most enjoyable jrpg experience I've had since the PSX FF days.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: y2kev on March 20, 2008, 02:20:23 AM
JUNPEI :bow2
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:21:46 AM
God that game has so many small things that make it a classic.

like DAH DAH DAHHHHHHHH  JUNPEI HAS LEVELED UP

when i first heard that i was in heaven
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 20, 2008, 02:23:17 AM
EB blacklists anyone who doesn't agree with the majority, Himu.  Don't let it get you down.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: y2kev on March 20, 2008, 02:25:27 AM
:bow JUNPEI :bow2
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: MCD on March 20, 2008, 02:27:18 AM
major flaw: shit animu highschool design, here you go himumu.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:32:23 AM
How is that a flaw? To me it's just an evolution of talking to people in towns and stuff. Just making talking to npcs actually apart of the game and not an after thought. What's wrong the setting? Prefer more shitty fantasy and sci fi trappings?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:35:33 AM
WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT NOT BEING ON PSP :lol
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:42:11 AM
What is wrong with the ps2?
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on March 20, 2008, 02:43:11 AM
What is wrong with the ps2?

we've kinda moved on... and we all own HDTVs... and 480i is grotesque
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 02:53:34 AM
On topic:

Error what do you think about the LOL GLASSES thing? I think it seems pretty neat, but a bit unnecessary. I mean, why can't they just cards?

Also, the premise sounds very vintage Megami Tensei-ish. Entering another world through the TV? Fuck yes dude. Good replacement for the traditional internet scheme they've used.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Error2k4 on March 20, 2008, 02:59:28 AM
the TV bit reminds of Soul Hackers' VR premise. I dont know what the glasses are for  ???
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 03:02:31 AM
It seems to me the Persona is shown on the tarot and only they can see it with the glasses. Then they use the card to summon a persona.

Oh right, I forgot about Soul Hackers!
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on March 20, 2008, 03:30:21 AM
I liked Devil Summoner on PS2 a whole ton, too.  I didn't come close to beating it though, since it was extremely grindy and repetitive.

I would give P3 another shot if it were on PSP.  The visuals dun look good on my HDTV.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 03:41:55 AM
P3 would actually make a damn fine portable game

you could just play a few days and then put it down
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: duckroll on March 20, 2008, 07:10:30 AM
I would actually have someone worthwhile to contribute here, but it seems that Himuro has let his agenda and loose baggage get in the way of hyping Persona 4 and has totally ruined any chance of this thread going anywhere nice. Unfortunate. :(
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: tiesto on March 20, 2008, 09:13:05 AM
Also, the premise sounds very vintage Megami Tensei-ish. Entering another world through the TV? Fuck yes dude. Good replacement for the traditional internet scheme they've used.

Wasn't there an Ultima game or some other classic PC RPG with this concept? Or am I hallucinating again...
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Ichirou on March 20, 2008, 09:52:45 AM
Captain N had the same concept, and so did Pleasantville. :lol
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: MCD on March 20, 2008, 09:54:42 AM
you can enter alternative (virtual) worlds via any electronics in Mega Man Battle Network (exe)
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 01:20:26 PM
The series has always had things like this:

Megami Tensei revolves around a dude who uses his computer to summon demons.

Soul Hackers has you step into a Virtual Reality world.

Digital Devil Saga is about a group of people stuck in a VR training module.

So on and so forth.

It's like this because of the source material. The book Digital Devil Story is about exactly what Megami Tensei entails, since it was apparently translated from book to game.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
I would actually have someone worthwhile to contribute here, but it seems that Himuro has let his agenda and loose baggage get in the way of hyping Persona 4 and has totally ruined any chance of this thread going anywhere nice. Unfortunate. :(

DON'T WORRY DUDE

PERSONA 4

PERSONA 4

Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 20, 2008, 05:23:31 PM
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How is that a flaw? To me it's just an evolution of talking to people in towns and stuff. Just making talking to npcs actually apart of the game and not an after thought.

People here probably hate towns too.  Towns are great though, without them RPGs just become either collections of battles with occasional cutscene intermissions or collections of cutscenes with occasional battle intermissions.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
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How is that a flaw? To me it's just an evolution of talking to people in towns and stuff. Just making talking to npcs actually apart of the game and not an after thought.

People here probably hate towns too.  Towns are great though, without them RPGs just become either collections of battles with occasional cutscene intermissions or collections of cutscenes with occasional battle intermissions.

I agree entirely. In P3, however, everything is tied together to form one cohesive whole that supports the game and its story: exploration, talking to npc's - who seemingly don't just tell you random shit either, but actual things that give the story more perspective, the relationship building itself helps support the game's title "Persona" since you're essentially a two faced person who changes his persona from person to person to fit your agenda. It's unique. There is no fluff. It's not typical jrpg fare we've been playing for 20 years, the whole go from town a get armor and weapons, go to dungeon, town b, go to dungeon, rinse, repeat and I think modern rpg fans should appreciate it. But no, you've got heavy traditionalists going ape shit because it's a little different.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 02:24:21 AM
In Golden, is it worth doing Marie's dungeon? I'm on the 4th floor and it is soooooooo fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 28, 2014, 10:20:21 AM
Marie's dungeon is terrible, but you must do it.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Do you know how many days you get? There's no clear indicator that I've seen.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Check calender.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 12:57:53 PM
Check calender.

It doesn't say :( There's a mix of weather on it.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2014, 01:29:20 PM
Post a screen
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
Post a screen

Actually, you can't leave the place.  When you try to leave, everyone just says "Cmon, we have to do this!"
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 02:09:40 PM
What really sucks is the "monsters don't drop money" thing.  I gain a bunch of SP after every battle from Rise, but with no money I can't fuse new Personas.
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2014, 02:15:07 PM
This dude is my ultimate male lover. Will probably use him as my primary until the end:

(http://i.imgur.com/EvXYb0f.jpg)
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2014, 02:19:10 PM
What a beast
Title: Re: Persona 4
Post by: demi on June 28, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
Do you know how many days you get? There's no clear indicator that I've seen.

Christmas Eve is the last day.