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Title: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 02:05:11 PM: [youtube=425,350]69upsC3rf2s[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69upsC3rf2s

Cajole :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Tauntaun on March 28, 2008, 02:15:19 PM: Muse :rock Tracks 4-6 on that album are pure awesome! :rock
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: T234 on March 28, 2008, 02:20:16 PM: EXPLAIN CAJOLE

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10397203&postcount=73 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10397203&postcount=73)

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING BUT THE SECOND PICTURE
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 02:29:52 PM: how could you fall asleep listening to origin of symmetry?
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 02:32:04 PM: The first song is good I guess, but eventually the melodies get so damn repetitive and generic I kinda dose off. Then the second song does the same thing (piano-BIG RIFF-mumbling wailing-BIG RIFF). I fell asleep and woke up at the beginning of Hyper Music, then fell asleep after track 6.

So right now I'm listening to the full album. It's better now that I'm not sleepy
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: lordmaji on March 28, 2008, 02:33:01 PM: Absolution!
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 02:35:45 PM: OoS > Absolution
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 02:37:57 PM: omg omg omg track 10

:bow
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Candyflip on March 28, 2008, 03:32:14 PM: <3 Showbiz and Absolution. I either love or hate every song on Origin of Symmetry.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 03:48:15 PM: I forgot which album Cajole suggested I listen to first so I just picked their first album
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 03:57:22 PM: But you didn't. Showbiz is their first. I suggested either Absolution or OoS first. I started with Absolution first, which is still my favorite.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: T234 on March 28, 2008, 04:14:03 PM: EXPLAIN
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 04:15:07 PM: YOU KNOW WHY
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 04:16:20 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 03:57:22 PM
But you didn't. Showbiz is their first. I suggested either Absolution or OoS first. I started with Absolution first, which is still my favorite.

I thought OoS was their first SMH. Is Showbiz a good pick to check out next?
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 04:17:19 PM: It's as good as any, yeah.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: elektrikluv on March 28, 2008, 04:25:41 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 03:57:22 PM
But you didn't. Showbiz is their first. I suggested either Absolution or OoS first. I started with Absolution first, which is still my favorite.

Mine tooo :bow

I also started with it, with Time is Running out to be exact.

And whoever said OoS > Absolution, wtf??
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 04:28:49 PM: Most people on here think OoS > Absolution, actually. I've grown to like OoS quite a bit, but yeah, I still like Absolution more.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 04:30:35 PM: Ok, after my first coherent listen through: the album seems to be a mix of awesome songs and average songs, with the latter being more prominent. There are no "bad" songs on here
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 04:59:55 PM: Showbiz is a weak debut imo. I'm not too fond of it. OoS is my fave because it was my first. If Aboslution were my first it'd probably be my fave as well.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 04:30:35 PM
Ok, after my first coherent listen through: the album seems to be a mix of awesome songs and average songs, with the latter being more prominent. There are no "bad" songs on here

and what average songs are these? i think the entire album is a banger, myself.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:01:43 PM: Himu we are discussing a rock album, not jungle bunny noise; this is not a "banger", it's kick ass
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: HotByCold on March 28, 2008, 05:02:47 PM: Pretty good, might pick the rest up.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 05:05:02 PM: It seems that people in the OoS > Absolution camp thinks Showbiz is weak, while the others like it.

You know what, just listen to Absolution next, PD.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 05:10:37 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Himu we are discussing a rock album, not jungle bunny noise; this is not a "banger", it's kick ass

well then what are these so called average songs?
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: TVC15 on March 28, 2008, 05:11:23 PM: I agree with PD. Muse has some good songs and some djhjjhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 05:13:20 PM: Proof that Muse is godly. Just made PD and TVC agree.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 05:13:52 PM: oh they have no doubt some average songs, I'm just curious what he thinks is average on OoS. There are some songs I'm not as fond of as others, but nothing screams average to me.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:22:03 PM: Quote from: Himuro on March 28, 2008, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Himu we are discussing a rock album, not jungle bunny noise; this is not a "banger", it's kick ass

well then what are these so called average songs?

Songs that are omg awesome:
-Hyper Music
-Plug in Baby
-Dark Shines
-Feeling Good
-Citizen Erased

Average songs:
-New Born
-Bliss
-Space Dementia
-Screenager
-Megalomania

Remember "average" doesn't mean "bad". I mean sure, there's bad average I guess, like say Karen Page
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 05:25:37 PM: Really? I could settle for Space Dementia and Screenager but New Born, Bliss, and Megalomania?
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 05:27:06 PM: He listened to live versions I sent him first.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:29:03 PM: Quote from: Himuro on March 28, 2008, 05:25:37 PM
Really? I could settle for Space Dementia and Screenager but New Born, Bliss, and Megalomania?

I really don't like New Born's riff. The piano opening is somewhat cryptic and majestic, then this modern Green Day esque riff comes out of nowhere and kinda kills the mood. Same with Bliss in terms of the riff.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Candyflip on March 28, 2008, 05:38:33 PM: Quote from: Himuro on March 28, 2008, 04:59:55 PM
Showbiz is a weak debut imo. I'm not too fond of it. OoS is my fave because it was my first. If Aboslution were my first it'd probably be my fave as well.
I duno. OoS was recommended to me as their best when I had never heard Muse and it made me think "meh" for some time. PD's list is pretty much spot on except that I like megalomania.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 05:42:06 PM: Sorry to post a long AIM convo, but I am speechless

(4:15:22 PM) PhoenixDark0: i really like Feeling Good
(4:16:23 PM) CajoleJuice: well feeling good is a cover :P
(4:16:38 PM) PhoenixDark0: wtf
(4:16:41 PM) PhoenixDark0: of who
(4:16:47 PM) CajoleJuice: of like tons of people
(4:17:10 PM) CajoleJuice: you mean to tell me you've never heard that song before?
(4:17:58 PM) CajoleJuice: they have this cool song called house of the rising sun
(4:18:03 PM) CajoleJuice: you should check that out too
(4:18:24 PM) PhoenixDark0: .......
(4:18:37 PM) PhoenixDark0: i might have heard feeling good before
(4:19:00 PM) PhoenixDark0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBy4QXAAil8
(4:19:08 PM) PhoenixDark0: i've heard this before. just didn't make the connection
(4:19:17 PM) CajoleJuice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeling_Good
(4:19:47 PM) PhoenixDark0: SMH
(4:20:13 PM) CajoleJuice: you shake your head at yourself?
(4:20:33 PM) CajoleJuice: here, let me send you house of the rising sun, though
(4:20:36 PM) CajoleJuice: not a cover at all
(4:20:57 PM) PhoenixDark0: mother fucker i know who the kinks are
(4:21:19 PM) CajoleJuice: it was by the animals.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2008, 05:42:52 PM: :-\
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 28, 2008, 05:44:17 PM: Just to be clear, I know the Animals version is a cover itself, but I knew what PD was thinking of. :lol
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2008, 05:46:33 PM: You didn't realize that was a cover...?
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: HotByCold on March 28, 2008, 06:29:32 PM: So SMH stands for Shaking My Head?
Thanks, now I know that as well.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 28, 2008, 10:24:22 PM: In my opinion, Origin of Symmetry >>>>> Black Holes and Revelations >>> Absolution > Hullabaloo >>>>> Showbiz.

I got into Muse by OoS. :rock
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Darunia on March 28, 2008, 11:32:20 PM: Muscle Museum is one of the only really good Muse songs

I also like plug in baby
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2008, 01:00:37 PM: Quote from: Himuro on March 28, 2008, 05:25:37 PM
Really? I could settle for Space Dementia and Screenager but New Born, Bliss, and Megalomania?

I'm really liking Megalomania now :bow
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 29, 2008, 07:12:56 PM: Every song on Origin of Symmetry is great, and Megalomania is a fucking fantastic way to end the album. It's Muse's 2nd best outro (after Knights of Cydonia).
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 29, 2008, 07:14:03 PM: The thing is, Knights feels more like an intro. Probably why they start concerts with it.
Title: Re: I fell asleep through Origin of Symmetry until this song
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 29, 2008, 07:21:41 PM: Yeah, it can work both ways. I think it has more to do with the fact that Black Holes had some sketchy track ordering in the first place.