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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:22:57 PM

Title: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:22:57 PM: Should I just get that cheap PC that Crytek suggests for running Crysis? I want a machine that will last me some years, like this one has.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:24:13 PM: What's your budget?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:25:45 PM: I'll just buy the parts as I see fit
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 02, 2008, 11:27:06 PM: lol
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 02, 2008, 11:54:16 PM: I was going to make a similar topic today but the sale was canceled out from under me :'(
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 11:55:38 PM: I'll wait until this bonus comes in, then I will start hunting and pecking parts
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 12:03:45 AM: It's hard to recommend anything if you don't know your budget.

Approximately, if you want a PC that'll last a few years, prepare to spend about $600 for the PC & Videocard and about $400-500 for everything else.

I can go into more detail when you know how much you'll be spending.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 12:06:00 AM: $600 for a card? I thought they released those small cheap ones?

Let's say upwards to $1000, but I'm not looking to buy it all in one bundle. Maybe one or two parts here and there.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: trh on April 03, 2008, 12:08:30 AM: high end for gaming with most shit on max, mid for gaming with everything high and some mid, or low for surfing and general computer using?

I'll just throw some shit out there since I just built a PC and I've still got it all in my head:
Graphic cards:
High end: 8800gts 512mb, there are a lot of more expensive options but I don't think they're very good looking at price/performance
Mid: 8800gt 512mb
Low: 9600gt 512mb or Sapphire Radeon HD3870
the "best" brand as far as I know is EVGA, but they're usually a bit more expensive

Case:
High: Antec p182
Mid: Antec Sonata III case with 500w power supply

Power supply if you did not go with the Sonata case:
Any corsair brand power supply from their HX/VX series, the 450w is a good choice if you don't want to spend too much money; 520w is a good choice if you're looking for a modular power supply so you don't have to clutter up the case with cables; and the 620w is a good choice if you plan on having 4 or more hard drives for something like a raid system. They seem sort of expensive when I look at the price in USA stores though. ???

Processor:
Intel E8400 is what I would go with, don't know much about the quad cores and the budget ones though.

Mobo:
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, DS3R if you want raid.

Memory: 2x1gb 800 (6400) memory of your choice, I like the Corsair brand the best, don't really know to be honest.

Hard drive: 500gb seems to be the sweet spot for money per gigabyte. Western Digital is a good brand but I don't know really.

And a DVD burner of your choice.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: MCD on April 03, 2008, 12:09:06 AM: you can find decent graphic cards ranging from 140 to 200$.

smooth, demi isn't gonna play pc games.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 12:10:15 AM: Those 8800GTs were basically the video card to get right? Didnt they release the cooler chipset models of those? Malek made a thread a while back, cant be bothered to look it up
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Error Macro on April 03, 2008, 12:16:03 AM: core 2 duo 8400
8800 gts 512MB
2GB cheapo DDR2 RAM

are you reusing components from your current pc?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 12:19:01 AM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 12:06:00 AM
$600 for a card? I thought they released those small cheap ones?

Let's say upwards to $1000, but I'm not looking to buy it all in one bundle. Maybe one or two parts here and there.

I meant about $300 for a videocard and about $300 for a CPU. Malek's 8800 GT is not bad but its performance is kinda limited in high resolutions. You can get a better card for not much more than what he paid back then.

The older 8800 GTX is probably the best bargain right now. You can find one on newegg at $289 after rebate. The other option is the 8800 GTS 512mb (not the older 8800 GTS). It's about $240 after rebate.

For CPU, you should wait for the new quad-core Intel CPUs which should arrive pretty soon. They run cooler and have some new SSE extensions. You should be able to get a decent one for $300.

If you can't wait, then go for the q6600. The clockspeed is a bit low but quad-core should be more important than clockspeed in a few years.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Vizzys on April 03, 2008, 12:21:48 AM: get an amd phenom over pentium craps
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 03, 2008, 12:25:51 AM: i thought the phenoms sucked, with the B9900 barely beating out an E8400?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2008, 12:30:28 AM: *bookmarks thread for later this year*
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Vizzys on April 03, 2008, 12:31:52 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on April 03, 2008, 12:25:51 AM
i thought the phenoms sucked, with the B9900 barely beating out an E8400?

but the amd fanboy in me disagrees with the facts that I have purposely avoided
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 03, 2008, 12:34:57 AM: ah, yes, i too enjoy cognitive dissonance in certain matters
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 12:37:56 AM: Quote from: Error Macro on April 03, 2008, 12:16:03 AM
core 2 duo 8400
8800 gts 512MB
2GB cheapo DDR2 RAM

are you reusing components from your current pc?

Probably not, I made this one back in 04

I could just go buy a Gateway or something since I dont really plan on doing any gaming really, but I want to be cool and make my own :'(
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 03, 2008, 12:43:11 AM: demi, check this out:

http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=617239CA-97C8-486A-AB00F0118E16939D-1847976

It even comes with a monitor if you don't have one already.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 12:47:11 AM: Get this, Demi, if you don't care about gaming.

(http://www.hothardware.com/newsimages/item6450/big_eeebox1.jpg)

or build your own XPC

(http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/56-101-044-02.jpg)
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 01:37:31 AM: Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on April 03, 2008, 01:29:58 AM
I have an 8400 / 8800gts 512 and I don't have any complaints so far. Then again, I'm worthless at PC gaming so I haven't done much with this machine at all.

What do you want to play? We got quite a few people here with extensive knowledge of PC gaming. Drinky, Frag, TVC, MAF, etc.. Tell us what you want to play and I'm sure we can guide you in the right direction.

Lost Planet is actually a pretty cool game to check out if you want to see what makes your PC better than a console. You can find it for $10 online.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: MCD on April 03, 2008, 01:45:01 AM: better wait for colonies edition though. (late may)
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2008, 02:14:12 AM: demi if you are in the market for parts then I may have some to sell you on the cheap.

All these parts are practically brand new (as in only a few weeks old):

EVGA 8800GT

4 1GB sticks of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 RAM

Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620 Watt modular Power Supply

Lian Li V1000B case

aBit IP35 Pro LGA 775 motherboard <---I won't sell this, however, as it is a piece of fucking shit mobo.

Intel C2D E8400 Wolfsdale

Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 MCE TV Tuner Card.

If you are interested in any of this stuff, let me know. I will part with any, or all, pretty cheap.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: T234 on April 03, 2008, 02:26:16 AM: How cheap we talkin?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2008, 02:32:30 AM: I dunno.....much less than what I paid. I am fucking done with building and maintaining computers.

I will sell the RAM for $50

The Lian Li case $100 (paid 200 for it)

The Hauppauge TV tuner card for $40

Corsair power supply for $50

....dunno about the 8800GT or the E8400...would have to think about that.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2008, 02:57:25 AM: I will sell the the 8800GT for $150 (paid 240).

The E8400 for $125 since i don't have the original cpu fan.

Also, I have a Western Digital Raptor 150gb 10,000 rpm hdd that I wll sell for $90.

All this stuff is legit...I am not a criminal, and not trying to scam anyone. I just don't play games on my pc anymore....and this whole aBit mobo shit support for the E8400 has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: T234 on April 03, 2008, 03:00:03 AM: I wish I made real money :(
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 03, 2008, 04:19:32 AM: Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on April 03, 2008, 01:29:58 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2008, 12:30:28 AM
*bookmarks thread for later this year*

You might as well just ask later this year.

I have an 8400 / 8800gts 512 and I don't have any complaints so far. Then again, I'm worthless at PC gaming so I haven't done much with this machine at all.

FA needs a MMO detox regiment to get him out of the notion that time playing pc games but not playing WoW is a "waste". I suggest Titan Quest+expansion, you can do all sorts of nerdlinger character building ( titancalc.com ) and loot/stat mongering, just like you would with a level 70 WoW character but without the huge time sink involved.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:20:42 AM: Someone tell me how good that EVGA card of Arde0's is and I might buy it right now
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:21:37 AM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:20:42 AM
Someone tell me how good that EVGA card of Arde0's is and I might buy it right now

It's good as long as you don't care that much about anti-aliasing or higher than 1280x1024 resolutions.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:23:41 AM: Why do you say AA? Does it suck with AA?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:26:55 AM: It doesn't suck with AA but the performance is slower since the 8800GT's biggest weakness is a relatively low memory bandwidth.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 03, 2008, 04:27:40 AM: 8800GT is good for 1280x1024 or 1680x1050, you'll be able to get some light AA and AF on some games with that card before getting capped on VRAM/bandwidth, and it'll look very pretty.

Anything higher or more than that, you'll need more firepower.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:30:40 AM: Well what it does already is more firepower than I'm looking for

I'll buy the 8800GT off you, Arde0, sent you PM
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:31:36 AM: The problem with a low memory bandwidth card like the 8800 GT is that the minimum framerate can get really low. So, the game can be running at 60fps for most of the level but drop to 10fps or less in a memory intensive area. Benchmarks don't really depict those issues that well. Hardocp is the best in terms of showing real world performance.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:32:06 AM: So what's a better alternative then?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:43:08 AM: For less than $300, the 8800 GTX is the best all around performer. It has 768 mb of ram and a higher memory bandwidth than all Geforce 9 cards. At high resolutions w/AA, it's even faster than the supposedly new top of the line 9800 GTX.

At $50 less than the 8800 GTX, the 8800 GTS 512 is the next best option. It's got better shader performance and more memory bandwidth than the 8800 GT.

Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on April 03, 2008, 04:41:47 AM
Quote from: Fragamemnon on April 03, 2008, 04:19:32 AM
Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on April 03, 2008, 01:29:58 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2008, 12:30:28 AM
*bookmarks thread for later this year*

You might as well just ask later this year.

I have an 8400 / 8800gts 512 and I don't have any complaints so far. Then again, I'm worthless at PC gaming so I haven't done much with this machine at all.

FA needs a MMO detox regiment to get him out of the notion that time playing pc games but not playing WoW is a "waste". I suggest Titan Quest+expansion, you can do all sorts of nerdlinger character building ( titancalc.com ) and loot/stat mongering, just like you would with a level 70 WoW character but without the huge time sink involved.

Basically, yup. Titan Quest + Expansion eh? I think I saw this on steam...not sure. I need something. I'm craving an RPG but I couldn't get into the Witcher and I tried playing Oblivion (my first Elder Scrolls) but kinda felt overwhelmed...though that was partly due to me not having a manual.

Maybe TQ will be a good cure. TVC's recommendation and subsequent thread about Hellgate probably won't work (Hellgate looked like generic butt crack in the shape of a Diablo/Wow clone from the screens).

3 times this week I went halfway through copying the WoW folder from my bro's computer onto mine...and each time I cancelled. I don't know how much longer I can remain strong. I'm trying!

Marvel:Ultimate Alliance looks sweet in high res and your PC should be able to run it at a much better framerate than the 360. Also, the PC version automatically detects a 360 controller so that you can just play it like a 360 game.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:44:55 AM: Link to a good 8800 GTX? If I'm gonna make a new PC I might as well put the most into the video card for the next 4 or so years
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:49:06 AM: This is the best price I've seen.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130072

It's $289.99 after rebate and there's no tax for Ohio residents. EVGA and Newegg are good with rebates.

Also, if for whatever reason you don't like the 8800 GTX, you have 3 months to upgrade to a Geforce 9 card.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 03, 2008, 04:54:18 AM: FA, I'm sort of an MMO junkie too and would recommend it for someone looking to quit. I'd also suggest any of the following, all are engrossing games that will suck you in for hours and not tempt you to play WoW again.

Space Rangers 2
Galciv2 w/ expansion
Company of Heroes
Civ4+Beyond the Sword
Heroes of Might and Magic 5
Neverwinter Nights 2+expansion

That's just a short list of games I played last year coming off of a very long WoW binge along with the already suggest TQ+IT.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:56:59 AM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 04:49:06 AM
This is the best price I've seen.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130072

It's $289.99 after rebate and there's no tax for Ohio residents. EVGA and Newegg are good with rebates.

Also, if for whatever reason you don't like the 8800 GTX, you have 3 months to upgrade to a Geforce 9 card.

Bookmarked, I'll probably order this in the next week or so
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 05:08:27 AM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:56:59 AM

Bookmarked, I'll probably order this in the next week or so

Cool.

For CPU, Arde0's E8400 is pretty good although games in the future would take more advantage of extra cores than faster clockspeed. The cheapest quad-core right now is Q6600, which costs about $225 to 250.

For most games now, a faster dual-core will usually deliver better performance so you might just want to get the E8400.

Quote from: Fragamemnon on April 03, 2008, 04:54:18 AM
FA, I'm sort of an MMO junkie too and would recommend it for someone looking to quit. I'd also suggest any of the following, all are engrossing games that will suck you in for hours and not tempt you to play WoW again.

Space Rangers 2
Galciv2 w/ expansion
Company of Heroes
Civ4+Beyond the Sword
Heroes of Might and Magic 5
Neverwinter Nights 2+expansion

That's just a short list of games I played last year coming off of a very long WoW binge along with the already suggest TQ+IT.

:bow Frag :bow2

The extra benefit from playing those games is that you'll be smarter from all the brain exercise.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 05:26:06 AM: FA, what state are you from?

Late night studying is mostly pointless as your brain is functioning at a really low level. It's better just to wake up early.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 09:31:04 AM: Ooooooooo

Yes yes I need to play Games for Windows, I want to play Halo 2 and Geaaaahs

How about that, I want a PC that can run Halo 2 and Gears - will that card run these? That would mean I'd need Vista then, huh
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 11:35:16 AM: Mmmmm, PC talk, makes my penis stiff. KEEP TALKING ABOUT CPU's and GPU's! :heartbeat

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Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: trh on April 03, 2008, 11:49:56 AM: Honestly man, while the 8800gtx is more powerful, I'm pretty certain the 8800gt will do everything you want and a bit more. I've got a 8800gt and an E8400 and everything I throw at it is running smooth - not counting Crysis although it's still very playable - so I don't see why you'd want to spend an extra $100 for a minimal gain in performance.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 11:57:43 AM: Can it run Gears PC? That's my benchmark. Fuck boring Crysis, it doesnt even have achieves. Can I run Gears decently- that is the benchmark.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: trh on April 03, 2008, 12:10:18 PM: Yeah definitely, a friend of mine has pretty much the same rig as me and it was running smoothly at all times, I never really saw any heavy firefights but from what he told me it ran fine throughout the entire game. To be honest Arde0's offer seems like a steal, you'd just need to get a better mobo.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 12:18:15 PM: Ok, offer retracted on Smooth Groove, I'll go with Arde0's card again
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 12:59:17 PM: Demi, it all depends on what you consider to be acceptable performance. Like I said, the GTX will allow you to have better performance w/ anti-aliasing in higher resolutions.

Also, the extra 256 mb of ram seems to make a difference with quite a few new games. If you're thinking of getting something long term, the extra ram might be worth the money.

The article below describes how these 2 cards would play Gears of War.

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxNiwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The only video card in DX10 mode that had enough performance to enable 4X AA (DX10 On/Antialiasing) at 1600x1200 was the GeForce 8800 GTX. It maintained an average of 40 FPS. It did drop below 30 FPS for an extended amount of time, but this was during the most intense fight scenes and the game still felt very playable at these levels on the GeForce 8800 GTX. If this is utterly unacceptable to you, disabling AA will bring the framerates way up.

Unfortunately we cannot force 2X AA in this game which would have been a better compromise of performance and image quality. The GeForce 8800 GTX video card will also let you play easily at 1920x1200 with DX10 “On” but no AA. This was also the only video card that allowed us to play at 2560x1600 with all settings at their highest and DX10 “On”, sans AA.

The GeForce 8800 GT performed well in this game, but it just didn’t have what it takes to enable 4X AA in Gears of War at 1600x1200. Though without AA, as you can see, performance is very high beating the 640 MB GeForce 8800 GTS. If you really want AA you can drop the resolution to 1280x1024 and then enable DX10 “On/Antialiasing” for 4X AA. The GeForce 8800 GT also allowed smooth gameplay at 1920x1200 without AA, in DX10. At 2560x1600 in DX10 mode though he GeForce 8800 GT did struggle at the highest game settings. If you lower some of the in-game settings, such as Texture Quality, Shadows and Post Processing then it would be playable at 2560x1600 with DX10 “On.”
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2008, 01:16:40 PM: I sent you a pm Demi.

Crysis is boring as fuck (beatiful game though). If you want the card I will throw in Crysis for free if you want it.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 01:23:16 PM: 4x AA @ 1600x1200 is definitely way out of my league - I play console anyway, I'm not concerned for graphics, just that it runs decent

I think this LCD I bought from Prole is only 1280 max anyway
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 01:32:25 PM: Only 1280? It must be a pretty old LCD. I guess it's not widescreen either? 8800 GT is definitely adequete if you aren't going to be buying a new monitor soon. You can find a nice 20-22" widescreen mon for $200 or less though.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:09:52 PM: I'll go with Arde's card since it is cheap. I can always dump it and get the GTX or higher if I see fit
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:34:10 PM: for boris:

1) you going to game on it or not? - not a priority
2) if yes then you gonna play old PC games or new, multiplatform (360) titles on it? - check out titles i may have missed maybe, not a priority
3) (which I doubt cause you are an achievement whore) - Gears and Halo 2 say hi, that is my priority
4) any reusable parts from your current PC (dvd, hdd, sound etc.) - probably this DVD Burner, i only have a 80GB drive on here, and 512 ram, onboard sound
5) how much you're willing to spend max - dont care, just not overkill... "medium-high" range?
6) windows xp or vista? - if i am playing Gears and Halo 2, i will need Vista right?
7) you are from usa or canada? - US
8) 8800 GTX is not worth it, dawg - i think we have came to that conclusion
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: MCD on April 03, 2008, 02:36:07 PM: if i am not mistaken, games that require vista/dx10 can be hacked to play under xp/dx9.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:37:21 PM: Easy to do? I won't go to Vista unless it's absolute necessary
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 02:39:57 PM: Quote from: Arde0 on April 03, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
I sent you a pm Demi.

Crysis is boring as fuck (beatiful game though). If you want the card I will throw in Crysis for free if you want it.

I always see your name as oreo. You mind if I eat you? :-*
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: MCD on April 03, 2008, 02:40:21 PM: no idea, perhaps borys knows.

Vista is not necessary now, SP1 is great but you can always wait for SP2.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 02:46:44 PM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
Easy to do? I won't go to Vista unless it's absolute necessary

You can trick some games into doing DX10 stuff in XP but that doesn't work with every game and not every effect can be duplicated. Most games still have DX9 modes so you'd still be able to play it.

Halo 2 and Shadowrun are the only Vista exclusive games that I can think of. I've heard of hacks to play them in XP but I haven't seen those hacks around. Also, the hacks won't allow you to get achievements or play online.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:52:37 PM: Vista it is then
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Mupepe on April 03, 2008, 02:53:52 PM: i bet demi is going to be fucking midgets with his new PC! :lol :-\
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 02:57:42 PM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:52:37 PM
Vista it is then

I find dual booting to be the best option. It's easy to do. Install XP first, then Vista.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 03:03:08 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on April 03, 2008, 02:53:52 PM
i bet demi is going to be fucking midgets with his new PC! :lol :-\

Why do you keep putting a :lol & :-\ at the end of whatever you're saying? Are you trying to confuse us?

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Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Mupepe on April 03, 2008, 03:04:16 PM: :lol I just can't believe demi is getting a new pc!

:-\
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 03:23:28 PM: So I just use XP primarily, and Vista for my optional gaming

Good enough, I've got my pirated XP right here - just need Vista
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 03:24:51 PM: You can't get Halo 2 achievements if you hack it.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 03:26:28 PM: I JUST SAID VISTA FOR OPTIONAL GAMING
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Mupepe on April 03, 2008, 03:26:57 PM: :lol Speaking of hacking, my pandora battery gets in today, demi! So you're gonna help me right?!

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Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: trh on April 03, 2008, 03:43:02 PM: Quote from: demi on April 03, 2008, 02:09:52 PM
I'll go with Arde's card since it is cheap. I can always dump it and get the GTX or higher if I see fit
Since it's EVGA you can use the step up program if the 8800gt isn't enough. It'll probably have to go through Arde0 though.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 03:44:17 PM: I have an EVGA 8600 :-[
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 03, 2008, 04:20:05 PM: Arde said he would include Crysis, so I can try it anyway and troll it (pending on if it is playable)
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: trh on April 03, 2008, 04:59:43 PM: It's gonna be playable, 25 fps during heavy firefights and ~20 during really intense firefights like tanks and choppers. There's also custom configs that changes settings around to optimize it further. Just make sure you turn on sunrays cause they're fucking gorgeous (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/features/hardware/crysis/001.jpg) and it's a part of the very high settings that Crytek hasn't unlocked yet. It's a fun game though.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 03, 2008, 05:30:08 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Arde0 on April 03, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
I sent you a pm Demi.

Crysis is boring as fuck (beatiful game though). If you want the card I will throw in Crysis for free if you want it.

I always see your name as oreo. You mind if I eat you? :-*

:-*
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 05:56:10 PM: Quote from: Arde0 on April 03, 2008, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Tauntaun on April 03, 2008, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Arde0 on April 03, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
I sent you a pm Demi.

Crysis is boring as fuck (beatiful game though). If you want the card I will throw in Crysis for free if you want it.

I always see your name as oreo. You mind if I eat you? :-*

:-*

:hyper
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 04:50:09 AM: ok, now that i am buying Arde's card, suggestions for the next heart of the PC - the mobo - are welcome

holla atcha boy with some hot ones
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 04, 2008, 05:58:32 AM: Are there any Fry's near you? They have some great CPU/MB bargains. Sometimes, it's almost like getting the MB for free.

If not, this is a good choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030

I use a 780I myself but I'm reluctant to recommend a Nvidia board. I went through motherboard and ram replacements three times already in less than 18 months.

I only stick with a NV motherboard because I use SLI. Since you're just going to use 1 videocard, it's best to stick with Intel.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 06:01:57 AM: No Fry's here, I have to order stuff through newegg, or zipzoomfly (both who i used when building this pc)
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 04, 2008, 06:04:58 AM: Stick with that Abit board then. It's gotten great reviews from many sites plus it has a good rep for being stable.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 06:06:04 AM: Wow it's only $170 too, that seems really cheap.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 04, 2008, 06:09:49 AM: There's a $30 rebate too. It's cheap because manufacturers are moving towards DDR3.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 06:13:52 AM: Oh well fuck that, I'll worry about the latest trends in 4 more years

I'll get these two parts and then bump this thread
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 08:14:01 AM: I haven't had any trouble with this Shuttle, has an nForce chipset... even using an ATI card with it

Using an AMD currently as well, it is like my new PC is totally opposite, lawl
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 08:22:16 AM: It is good to be me.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 08:22:56 AM: wait a minute, you dont get cancer when you are born

you gaywad
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 08:32:27 AM: It is good to be me.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 04, 2008, 11:54:07 AM: Quote from: demi on April 04, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
It is good to be me.

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/941/25537333zq0.jpg)
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 24, 2008, 01:50:11 PM: I just got Arde0's 8800GT and Crysis

I ordered a Q6600 from Outpost.com (~$200)

Is this motherboard still good? It is next on my list.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 24, 2008, 02:41:40 PM: Quote from: Borys on April 24, 2008, 02:37:27 PM
Crysis has no achievements, demi.

SHIT/ BIN?

As long as you can headshot and t-bag people that's all that matters. :gun
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 24, 2008, 02:47:40 PM: Quote from: Borys on April 24, 2008, 02:37:27 PM
Crysis has no achievements, demi.

SHIT/ BIN?

When does your GAF ban end, again?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 24, 2008, 03:02:14 PM: This is SERIOUS thread, only serious replies allowed

I will play it
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Tauntaun on April 24, 2008, 03:03:42 PM: I've got Crysis but am waiting to build my new comp to play it properly (ie - not at craptastic frame rates).
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on April 28, 2008, 02:14:40 PM: My Q6600 arrived... this heatsink/fan is huge. They've sure come a long way.

I am buying this motherboard next... unless something else comes to mind

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
Title: TAUNTAUN'S SLOPPY SECONDS! HALP PLZ! (Smooth Groove that means you!)
Post by: Tauntaun on April 29, 2008, 12:09:07 PM: :-*

So here's the parts I've picked out so far. i remember you saying that Intel boards won't run SLI but they'll do crossfire so that's what's up with the radeon card, seems like a sick deal for $170. The one thing I'm missing is a hard drive. I want a retail HD not some OEM junk but Tigerdirect doesn't have any nice retail WD's right now. Could I just use a nice external with esata?

CPU:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574211&Sku=CP1-DUO-E8400 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3574211&Sku=CP1-DUO-E8400)
Motherboard:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3444881 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3444881)
RAM:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3135566&CatId=3433 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3135566&CatId=3433)
GPU:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3747342&CatId=3670 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3747342&CatId=3670)
Power supply:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2212308&CatId=2533 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2212308&CatId=2533)
Case:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3208108&Sku=A406-1082 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3208108&Sku=A406-1082)

The external I was looking at is this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3587148&CatId=136 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3587148&CatId=136)

Thanks to all my shnookums. :hump
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on April 29, 2008, 12:35:20 PM: Quote from: demi on April 28, 2008, 02:14:40 PM
My Q6600 arrived... this heatsink/fan is huge. They've sure come a long way.

I am buying this motherboard next... unless something else comes to mind

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030

It is great motherboard (the one I was using) as long as you dont use a Wolfsdale Core, which you obviously are not. aBit has a great tool from controlling fan speed and on-the-fly overclocking.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on May 16, 2008, 07:52:59 PM: I just ordered that motherboard, any deals on RAM? What's the ideal amount? Go for broke?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: Vizzys on May 16, 2008, 08:00:29 PM: MUSHKIN
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: huckleberry on May 16, 2008, 08:11:24 PM: Did you get the Abit IP35 Pro?

If so I have 4 gb of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 RAM that will make that mobo sing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565)

Will sell all 4 1gb sticks for 40.00.
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on May 16, 2008, 08:31:15 PM: Damn thats a killer deal compared to that Newegg link. Check PM
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on May 22, 2008, 02:00:25 PM: *BUMP*

Motherboard and RAM are in-house

I have:

* CPU
* Video Card
* Mobo
* RAM

Need:

* Hard Drive
* Case
* Extras (DVD/RW, couple fans)

Any suggestions for a case? Any deals on some Hard Drives? What's a good brand? I have a Western Digital right now, should I stick with what works?
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on June 01, 2008, 05:55:53 PM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164081

Look at that fan :lol
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: max_cool on June 01, 2008, 06:17:51 PM: Quote from: demi on June 01, 2008, 05:55:53 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164081

Look at that fan :lol
Oh god, it lights up too. :lol
Title: Re: I am looking to build a new PC
Post by: demi on June 04, 2008, 08:06:34 AM: How does this look...

Case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147083

PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

HDD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

DVD-RW:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018

Sounds good? It's about $300 total. I am looking to pull the trigger this week, unless other alternatives are brought up