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Title: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 03, 2008, 05:10:37 AM
(http://www.shopncsx.com/images/products/detail/muso_orochi_mao.jpg)

The game just hit stores today in Japan, but people playing via other means (yarrr) have had it for a few days now, so there's already lots of information and Youtube footage available.  Good job, Koei...the PC version of the original Musou Orochi is still unreleased and the PSP version has yet to hit Europe...but bring on the sequel!  :lol

This second Orochi offering feels a bit like a recyclefest-- art, menu screens, and music have all been reused from the original game.  There also seems to be less stages than before, too, since Koei dropped all of the gaiden stages. 

-You get five main story modes (Wu, Wei, Shu, Sengoku, and now Orochi), each with eight stages each. 

-A new dramatic story mode has also been added, putting premade teams into different situations.  This looks to take the place of the missing gaiden levels.

-There's also a new versus mode and a survival mode, where teams of three characters face off. 

-New Characters:

Fu Xi
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-fuxi.gif)
Nu Wa
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-nuwa.gif)
Maeda Toshiie
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-toshiie.gif)
Shibata Katsuie
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-katsuie.gif)
Sasaki Kojiro
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-kojiro.gif)
Gracia
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-gracia.gif)
Chousokabe Motochika
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-motochika.gif)
Taigong Wang
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-taigongwang.gif)
Taira no Kiyomori
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-kiyomori.gif)
Minamoto no Yoshitsune
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-yoshi.gif)
Sun Wukong
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-sunwukong.gif)
Himiko
(http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/downloads/avatars/wordl/ava-himiko.gif)

-New Stages:

Itsukushima
Mt. Wu Xing
Han Shui
Shikoku
Ji Castle
Yan Zhou
Okehazama
Mt. Qi
Shi Zhou
Shi Ting
Chang Sha
Nan Zhong
Ru Xu Kou
Mai Castle
Yang Ping Gate
Lousang Village
Mt. Kunlun
Jia Meng Gate
Yamatai
Fire River

-You can find CRAPLOADS of info at Koeiwarriors.

I'm about to dive into the game and see what's changed and what's new...anyone else getting this?  It's nice to see more modes of play added into the game, since the original felt pretty bare bones in this regard.

Movies:

Opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDpAqtmW1Sg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDpAqtmW1Sg)
[youtube=425,350]nDpAqtmW1Sg[/youtube]
Shin Orochi (boss)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB1xoUbCqaM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB1xoUbCqaM)
[youtube=425,350]KB1xoUbCqaM[/youtube]

Sun Wu-Kong (Better known as the Monkey King, Son Goku!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofRH36JJfA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofRH36JJfA)
[youtube=425,350]oofRH36JJfA[/youtube]

New Characters #1 (older footage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELy3bCev21I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELy3bCev21I)
[youtube=425,350]ELy3bCev21I[/youtube]

New Characters #2 (older footage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcz-g13GoNE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcz-g13GoNE&feature=related)
[youtube=425,350]wcz-g13GoNE[/youtube]

Versus Mode (seems pretty cool, actually)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV8eynLhO28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV8eynLhO28)
[youtube=425,350]wV8eynLhO28[/youtube]

Survival Mode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFhwbS0e5E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFhwbS0e5E)
[youtube=425,350]pOFhwbS0e5E[/youtube]
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 05:12:57 AM
I'd rather play the 360 FPS PC version of Orochi 1. 
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 03, 2008, 05:18:25 AM
I'd rather play the 360 FPS PC version of Orochi 1. 

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, MORAN.  :maf
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 05:23:57 AM
That's what Koei's benchmark tells me.  I didn't pull that number out of my ass.  360 FPS means I can finish the game 6x time faster than the PS2 version. 
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 03, 2008, 05:29:42 AM
Versus mode and Survival mode use fighting game-style play mechanics instead of the usual Musou beat-em-up style.   :o  It's like a tribute to the original Dynasty Warriors, which was a 3D fighter.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 03, 2008, 05:30:46 AM
How's Dynasty Warriors 6?  I'm actually kinda interested in getting the PS3 or 360 version after reading about the upgraded visuals at Eurogamer. 
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 03, 2008, 05:56:36 AM
So it seems easier than the original game (on normal difficulty) so far.  I cleaned up on the first stage in Wu pretty damn fast, and unlike the original, wasn't getting juggled or bludgeoned to death by normal enemies.  Might have to bump it up to hard, because it was TOO easy.  Then again, that was just the first stage!

How's Dynasty Warriors 6?  I'm actually kinda interested in getting the PS3 or 360 version after reading about the upgraded visuals at Eurogamer. 

Don't bother with it.  Wait for Dynasty Warriors 7 or if they "fix" things with an XL version, get that instead.  If you want one of these kinds of games with superior visuals, try DW Gundam or one of the 360 ports of Samurai Warriors 2 or Warriors Orochi.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 03, 2008, 11:37:34 AM
6 blows, they fucked up all the characters.

The DW 5 and SW 2 Empires on 360 are a lot of fun, I highly recommend them. Way more interesting than a straight up musou game.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 03, 2008, 12:09:52 PM
it looks like it would be fuck awesome but it's not worth the full price at this point.  i don't want to play it on the ps2 since it would be 4:3 and musou games benefit greatly from 16:9 because of the map position.  it gives more space to see.  also it looks like it won't be progressive scan either and without a ps2 i have no upscaling, which makes it look pretty crappy on a high def tv. 

i really want to try out the new characters and i'd love to see the new modes.  it also brings added challenge for me translating the storyline so i can understand it, but i think i'll wait for the 360 version.  at $65 i would like to get something a little more.  besides, i can't trade in any of my japanese games in the neighborhood so i have no way to get any extra money.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MoxManiac on April 03, 2008, 10:45:04 PM
Lyte's right, They nerfed the difficulty. I was able to handle a four star stage on hard with characters leveled 35-40 with minimal abilities equipped (like level 1-2 at most) I would have been raped on WO1 with those stats.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2008, 10:46:57 PM
sounds a bit fairer then  :P

Even on Normal you'd have a hard time with those stats
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 04, 2008, 02:06:34 AM
Mox, have you tried Dramatic mode yet?  I hear that's where the difficulty went to...play that and it's back to getting your ass kicked by footsoldiers. 

I didn't get to play much yesterday...need to get an extension cable to get my PS3 on my monitor first.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 04, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o

This game has TRIPLE MUSOU MOVES!!!

Let your life get in red, and then with a full Musou bar, hit L2 and R2...all three of your teammates will take turns unleashing fucking hell on everything that moves!
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 04, 2008, 10:41:12 AM
i saw that in the youtube video. 

there was something similar in musou orochi 1 but i NEVER used it.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 04, 2008, 11:24:13 AM
lowered difficullty compared to one means ill buy it. I love the PSP Orochi with its lowered difficulty
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 04, 2008, 11:24:45 AM
Yeah, dramatic mode is where the fuck hard difficulty is at.

I beat the shit out of Lu Bu in one of the earlier stages...he's nothing compared to Son Goku.  That bitch is SUPER FUCKING FAST (on his cloud) and just NASTY.  Took everything to take him out.

Gracia, who I thought was useless in SW2 XL, seems decent now.  I'm mainly sticking with Fu Xi (he's amazingly good) and Tokugawa Iesyu for every level, though. 

i saw that in the youtube video. 

there was something similar in musou orochi 1 but i NEVER used it.

Me too, eh?  


Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MoxManiac on April 04, 2008, 07:36:21 PM
I tried it a little, with fresh characters, and thought it was funny because not even generic generals would stagger from my hits. I was waiting to unlock more of them before trying it.

What unlocks them anyways? I've completed wei story and some levels of the other stories but i still only have like 5 dramatic mode stages.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MoxManiac on April 04, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
BTW, check out some of the alternate costumes if you haven't unlocked them:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/koeiwarriors/index.php?showtopic=11073&st=180


Kojiro looks human  :o

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/BaneWolfCT/Musou%20Orochi%20Maou%20Sairin/kojiro3p.jpg)

Ieyasu tries on his SW1 costume again, but sadly it seems to be too small for him:

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4669/ieyasualt3bm6.jpg)

Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 05, 2008, 10:04:00 AM
i'm not even sure why they make some of the costumes the way that they do.  why the hell would kojiro be a pale, sickly looking skinny kid?  when he was famous and when he fought musashi, he was an old, wisened, strong man that used a nodachi like it was a 3 ounce stick.  he was an amazing warrior.  then koei does him wrong by making him a goth bitch.  whatever.

and then taira tadanori (or whichever taira it is) is a monk and a demon?  what the fuck?
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: GilloD on April 05, 2008, 11:18:27 AM
Where is General Tso?
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 06, 2008, 03:37:01 AM
Kojiro looks human  :o

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/BaneWolfCT/Musou%20Orochi%20Maou%20Sairin/kojiro3p.jpg)


Haha, they totally ripped off Capcom's take on Kojiro from Sengoku Basara 2/Heroes with this design.   :lol

Nice to see alternate costumes back again.  How long has it been...like 5 years?
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 06, 2008, 03:42:55 AM
Another Sengoku Basara rip.  Nene looks like Kasuga.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/BaneWolfCT/Musou%20Orochi%20Maou%20Sairin/nene3p.jpg)

Musashi's alternate:

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/BaneWolfCT/Musou%20Orochi%20Maou%20Sairin/musashi3p.jpg)

WTF?
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/BaneWolfCT/Musou%20Orochi%20Maou%20Sairin/himiko3p.jpg)

Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 06, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
maybe someone can tell me why i want to kick every female musou character in the vagina.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: MoxManiac on April 08, 2008, 11:25:45 PM
Since this topic died, I would like to take this chance to post a hilarious Dian Wei video from the first Orochi:

[youtube=425,350]<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fHezbFQuHAg&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fHezbFQuHAg&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>[/youtube]
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 08, 2008, 11:27:13 PM
Haven't played it since the weekend...nothing new to say.  Plus I seem to be the only one playing it.   :-\
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 09, 2008, 02:04:30 AM
the only reason WE aren't the only ones playing it is because i can't afford it.  / :(\

if you get bored of it, send it to me in the mail.  i'll pay for postage.
Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: bork on April 09, 2008, 02:13:32 AM
the only reason WE aren't the only ones playing it is because i can't afford it.  / :(\

if you get bored of it, send it to me in the mail.  i'll pay for postage.

DAMN IT SELL SOME SHIT OR SOMETHING.  You know Play-Asia will buy back imports, right? 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or get your PS2 modded. YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Title: Re: Musou Orochi Rebirth Of The Demon Lord (A.K.A. Warriors Orochi *2*) Thread
Post by: muckson on April 09, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
i don't have anything to sell besides old dreamcast ports of kof.  besides, it would take more effort to put up stuff online, drive to a gamestore, or mod my ps2.  stop making excuses and being a lazy bitch.

DO YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF FRIEND LYTE EDGE IS GUYS

DO YOU SEE NOW