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Title: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 12:25:33 AM
... he managed to seduce me with his silver tongue, turning me from a diehard anti-Whedon Buffy hater to someone who is now watching all of Season One.  I might even track down Season Three at GameStop next.  What is happening to me?!
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 12:27:32 AM
You have to find out about Angel, Will!
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 12:30:13 AM
I'd rather not.  He's the worst part of the show.  His introduction makes me hate him even more; the first season makes him pedophile, Dateline-esque creepy.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 12:30:49 AM
But you liked Bad Angel!
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Vizzys on April 04, 2008, 12:37:20 AM
Angel is an ok show
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 12:37:39 AM
Because he was such a dick that it was funny.  Like when he took Buffy's virginity and told her she sucked in bed. :lol
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: border on April 04, 2008, 12:38:21 AM
Season 1 is awful.  Some people try to excuse it as "campy" or something, but it's really just dreadful.  Not a very good place to start.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2008, 12:39:13 AM
season 1 >>>>>>>>>> season 6 & 7
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: border on April 04, 2008, 12:43:02 AM
Seasons 6 and 7 have plenty of redeeming episodes (well, 6 at least does).  I don't recall anything worthwhile in S1.

No point in having the debate when the entirety of Season 2 is up on Hulu.com.  Just start at someplace good.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 12:46:39 AM
Seasons 6 and 7 have plenty of redeeming episodes (well, 6 at least does).  I don't recall anything worthwhile in S1.

No point in having the debate when the entirety of Season 2 is up on Hulu.com.  Just start at someplace good.

I suggested watching season 1 for all the Master shit, and it also gives context to all the annointed one bullshit at the beginning of season 2 (which Willco has already watched).  I also pointed out that it is funny to see how Xander is portrayed as a skater-type in the first eps (it may actually just be the first ep), but he quickly devolves into a loser.  Plus, I think at least half or so of the eps are at least on par with season 2 filler quality.

I think season 1 is kinda fun because they clearly weren't sure what they were doing with the show. 
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2008, 12:48:06 AM
also julie benz in a schoolgirl costume and that hot hot mantis teacher

and there was an episode with an evil clown!
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 12:49:12 AM
Did Xander just try to rape Buffy?
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 12:51:14 AM
Yeah, I watched the She-Mantis episode earlier.  The show was so low budget that apparently they couldn't afford lights.  Half that episode is in the basement and you can't see a damn thing! :lol
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 12:53:38 AM
Alright, Will, if you want to skip season 1, so be it. I still say you should watch the Master shit, but if you want to skip the season, at least watch this, the unaired Buffy pilot, featuring FAKE WILLOW:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3887843767986853415&q=buffy+pilot&total=57&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: max_cool on April 04, 2008, 03:43:39 AM
Is that the pilot with Fat Willow? How weird would the show have been with a fat, nerdy, unattractive Willow?
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 03:57:56 AM
Versus the skinny, nerdy and unattractive Willow?
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: FatalT on April 04, 2008, 03:59:14 AM
Versus the skinny, nerdy and unattractive Willow?

Fat people aren't fit for television, unless they're funny.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 03:59:38 AM
Versus the skinny, nerdy and unattractive Willow?

fuck off jew
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 04:02:09 AM
I don't even know who you're talking about or the terminology thrown about, demi!  Nerd alert!
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 04:03:21 AM
Willco is definitely a power bottom.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 04:03:31 AM
fixed
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2008, 04:07:39 AM
You can't rewrite history.  I know you mentioned some thing called Gazunta.  I don't know what it is, but it sounds totally wild homo.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 04:08:02 AM
i used to write pornography screenplays, i can do whatever i want
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Bloodwake on April 04, 2008, 04:16:36 AM
So my dad has Buffy season one... I'm on spring break, should I watch it?
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 04:22:43 AM
If you only have access to season one, I might hold off until you have access to the better years.  If you are stuck with just that one season, you will probably wonder what people are talking about in regards to the show's overall quality.  Kinda like, I like season 1, but I'd only recommend it to people that are already fans.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Bloodwake on April 04, 2008, 04:23:57 AM
If you only have access to season one, I might hold off until you have access to the better years.  If you are stuck with just that one season, you will probably wonder what people are talking about in regards to the show's overall quality.  Kinda like, I like season 1, but I'd only recommend it to people that are already fans.

Well, I like Firefly. A lot. Does that help?
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 04:25:13 AM
You should just watch it anyway, you need something to fill the void until LOST starts later this month :hyper
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: TVC15 on April 04, 2008, 04:25:42 AM
Possibly.  Maybe if you go in knowing that everything that is good in season 1 improves in further seasons, you will be able to appreciate it on some level.  It's pretty rough. 

I dunno, I've always liked season 1.  The bad episodes are like terrible b-movies you'd see on USA Up All Night, and I find that kind of charming.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Bloodwake on April 04, 2008, 04:31:13 AM
Possibly.  Maybe if you go in knowing that everything that is good in season 1 improves in further seasons, you will be able to appreciate it on some level.  It's pretty rough. 

I dunno, I've always liked season 1.  The bad episodes are like terrible b-movies you'd see on USA Up All Night, and I find that kind of charming.

Well, there was that one time I watched 90210 because of this forum. Surely Buffy isn't worse than that.

I might watch some tomorrow.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Eric P on April 04, 2008, 08:49:35 AM
Season 1 is awful.  Some people try to excuse it as "campy" or something, but it's really just dreadful.  Not a very good place to start.

yes

i tried to re-watch it and just gave the hell up
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: Tauntaun on April 04, 2008, 10:53:51 AM
Have you seen Firefly?  :hyper
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 04, 2008, 11:41:29 AM
Angel :bow
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 04, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
Don't let the early Buffy seasons put you off watching Angel --- Angel on Angel is nothing like Angel on Buffy.  By Angel season two David Boreanaz has gotten about a hundred times better at...  "acting" may not be the right word, but he's settled into a much more palatable schtick.

Buffy season one is fine.  It's only half a season anyway.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 10:01:22 PM
i liked Angel then lost interest later.
Title: Re: I Hate TVC 15: I am now watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer w/o WoW...
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 04, 2008, 10:39:07 PM
also Prole and most of the fans be damned, Buffy Season 6 is one of the best years.  among other things it has the best balance of arc and standalone episodes, and the best thematic development.  only the finale is really disappointing.

the worst seasons are 4 followed by 7.  and Angel season 5.