THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: FancyFeast on April 11, 2008, 05:16:15 PM
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http://www.gametab.com/news/2562712/
He must have gotten word about the 360 timed exclusive, why else would he be digging up 9 month old whiner articles?
Plagaristo, someone should tell him homies at Newsweek that his deep thoughts are nothing more that stolen goods scrapped off message boards and unknown gaming blogs.
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It's his duty as a Sony shill to shit on a multiplatform game.
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Big deal. Japs have been making racially insensitive games for years.
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oh, look, it's another passive-aggressive racist thread from FancyFeast
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His name is Ngay and he's fat. PWNED
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wait, timed 360 exclusive? did i miss something?
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He just likes Sony because they used him as a character in Loco Roco
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2006/06/mojacorps-thumb.png)
Seriously though. I think Loco Roco had more racism than the RE 5 trailer.
And what about this great Sony goof?
(http://money.cnn.com/blogs/browser/uploaded_images/sony-724850.jpg)
I think Capcom should up the ante and instead of using zombies just make all the enemies in RE 5 crazy Africans suffering from AIDS dementia.
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That white chick in the psp ad looks like the 80's white haired rocker that used to play with michael jackson. she's in the dirty diana video!
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she looks like that actress in narnia and michael clayton
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He just likes Sony because they used him as a character in Loco Roco
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2006/06/mojacorps-thumb.png)
Seriously though. I think Loco Roco had more racism than the RE 5 trailer.
And what about this great Sony goof?
(http://money.cnn.com/blogs/browser/uploaded_images/sony-724850.jpg)
I think Capcom should up the ante and instead of using zombies just make all the enemies in RE 5 crazy Africans suffering from AIDS dementia.
n'gai pwned
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If you can't see at least poor racial politics in RE5, if not outright racism, you need to get you're critical faculties checked.
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wait, timed 360 exclusive? did i miss something?
I doubt that it'll be a timed exclusive. Capcom haven't done anything like that recently, which is probably why they're making more money with next-gen than most Japanese companies.
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N'Gai N'Gai N'Gai Gai Gai Gai Gai Gai N'Gai Gai Gai N'Gai N'Gai Gai Gai Gai
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wait, timed 360 exclusive? did i miss something?
I doubt that it'll be a timed exclusive. Capcom haven't done anything like that recently, which is probably why they're making more money with next-gen than most Japanese companies.
so did fancy just pull that out of his ass?
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N'Gai N'Gai N'Gai Gai Gai Gai Gai Gai N'Gai Gai Gai N'Gai N'Gai Gai Gai Gai
you must suck at patapon mondain, your rhythm is way off.
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If you can't see at least poor racial politics in RE5, if not outright racism, you need to get you're critical faculties checked.
Agreed.
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and people think americans are racist. ::)
:piss :japancry :piss2
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Japanese are flaming racists.
World's ugliest Nazis.
I don't hate N'Gai because he is black, it is because he is a fat cocksucking idiot. :o
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If you can't see at least poor racial politics in RE5, if not outright racism, you need to get you're critical faculties checked.
i've been saying this since day one and people have called me too sensitive.
but it really looks kind of fucked up
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If you can't see at least poor racial politics in RE5, if not outright racism, you need to get you're critical faculties checked.
i've been saying this since day one and people have called me too sensitive.
but it really looks kind of fucked up
Yet you accept Gears of Wars as family fun for everyone.....
Racist.
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i don't think i've ever mentioned gears of war ever.
like the preceding sentence is the first time i can think of.
i don't have an xbox360
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With respect to RE5, I agree Croal that the imagery in the game does indeed have a history that cannot be denied or ignored. I would content to those who say the game is "racist" that the intent of the setting is not to stir controversy, and it's indeed sad that we're even having the discussion. There's also a history with respect to the setting of RE4, yet I don't remember hearing any complaints about a white man killing a bunch of spanish people for instance.
Many Japanese people don't have much personal interaction or experience dealing with people of different races, especially compared to Americans or other nations with mixed populations. What's racially unacceptable or divisive to us may just be something funny they saw on television, or on a jar. With that in mind, I'm not offended. Intent is important in these discussions, and I'm simply not convinced the game is "being racist" or whatever simple explanation Sharpton will give it.
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yet I don't remember hearing any complaints about a white man killing a bunch of spanish people for instance.
That's because SPanish people are white
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Ok
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nerds are just taking up the mantle of anti-PC because they're afraid this furor will cause the game to be delayed or "censored" -- they don't want to have any sort of dialogue whatsoever.
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There's also anger and apprehension there whenever an issue like this is brought up. People don't want to talk about it, and they certainly don't want to be accused of anything
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With respect to RE5, I agree Croal that the imagery in the game does indeed have a history that cannot be denied or ignored. I would content to those who say the game is "racist" that the intent of the setting is not to stir controversy, and it's indeed sad that we're even having the discussion. There's also a history with respect to the setting of RE4, yet I don't remember hearing any complaints about a white man killing a bunch of spanish people for instance.
Many Japanese people don't have much personal interaction or experience dealing with people of different races, especially compared to Americans or other nations with mixed populations. What's racially unacceptable or divisive to us may just be something funny they saw on television, or on a jar. With that in mind, I'm not offended. Intent is important in these discussions, and I'm simply not convinced the game is "being racist" or whatever simple explanation Sharpton will give it.
i don't think that ignorance or a lack of interaction on the part of the creator can excuse a work for being racist.
that said i am just troubled by what i've seen so far but am willing to give the work the benefit of the doubt
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The problem is that it's not "racist". If anything it's culturally insensitive, and like I said it's not particularly shocking to me considering the creators
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it's racist in that capcom is more than willing to make the antagonists exclusively black but not require the player assume a heroic black avatar, and all because the japanese audience doesn't think too highly of dem scary darkies, preferring to shoot at them rather than be them
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What the fuck? How is that racist? It's called business, ask Hollywood. The vast majority of their target audience is asian/white, of course they want to represent them. And considering we don't know much of anything about the game, lets not assume there are no good black characters in the game; I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "Louis" type black dude.
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how is that NOT racist? business and hollywood are more than happy to be racist for money, but profiteering is hardly -- or ever -- mutually exclusive with racism, homeschoolie d
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Your point is very weak. Products are always aimed at a target audience, which can be either broad or quite specific. Countries with very high percentages of ingenious populations always cater to the majority - there's nothing revolutionary or shocking about that. The Japanese audience doesn't play FPS games, so developers don't make those games for instance. With respect to race, it's not surprising that developers often create characters that reflect what their audience wants to see - ie big eyed gaijins with rainbow colored hair.
In the US Hollywood focuses on white actors because the audience they're aiming it is predominantly white. It's not rocket science, it's basic market principle: supply and demand
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and their audience doesn't want to play as a darkie, but rather a porcelain superman slaughtering the savage black-skinned hordes
this is what we call potentially racist imagery, easily mitigated by making the main character black -- but they won't, because the audience is racist and would rather have an avatar of any other skin color than black
don't play contrarian; you're still very bad at it
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They should make the bad guys blonde nazis. THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE!
sighleftistsigh
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I'm not playing contrarian, and name calling won't help your argument. You are assuming far too much stuff, most of which we don't know.
Do you think the game would bomb in Japan if the main character was black?
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This is why the bad guys in Law and Order tend to be educated rich white criminals.
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I'm not playing contrarian, and name calling won't help your argument. You are assuming far too much stuff, most of which we don't know.
Do you think the game would bomb in Japan if the main character was black?
:gun :japancry :piss2
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I could understand being miffed at RE5 if you're a black person, but why do white people have to rush to the cause of being PC all the time? You don't like the racial politics, just don't buy it.
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white guilt ftl
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Some people are just overly sensitive. As the reaction in the US to that Sony ad shows. No one had any problems with it here in the Netherlands, where it was actually used, and goddamn there are tons of black Dutchies too. You think the black model that was used in the ad thought it was racist? Not a chance, she would have refused the job if she thought it was racis don't you think?
Not the greatest example considering the racial histories of both countries are so different. There may be black Dutchies in your country but their racial experiences are vastly different than blacks in the US
But overall I agree with you, and love the avatar :bow
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this is what we call potentially racist imagery, easily mitigated by making the main character black -- but they won't, because the audience is racist and would rather have an avatar of any other skin color than black
I think they just decided that Chris Redfield (who is a white dude) should have a game next and then they picked a random poor part of the world near America (Not-Haiti) to replace RE4's European location (Not-Spain).
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The Dutch incidentally where also the first to start slave trade to Northern America
"Incidentally" is right.
"Whoops, we were trying to hit Mexico, ended up in Virginia. Sooooo... we got some Negroes here. Want 'em?"
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The Dutch incidentally where also the first to start slave trade to Northern America
"Incidentally" is right.
"Whoops, we were trying to hit Mexico, ended up in Virginia. Sooooo... we got some Negroes here. Want 'em?"
sonofabitch :lol :lol :lol
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Japanese are flaming racists.
World's ugliest Nazis.
I don't hate N'Gai because he is black, it is because he is a fat cocksucking idiot. :o
OK, I take back that previous post, he was great on 1UP yours. Hardly any 'R2' PR.
But he is still a fat cocksucker. :o
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[youtube=425,350]ttk2yyBoJjk[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttk2yyBoJjk
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I find the Sony ad hilariously great. I'm not sure if I can justify that reaction to myself or not.
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If only we had some kind of government agency to tell us what games we can and cannot play based on content. Then we cold be protected from all the racist ideas or violent stuff!!!
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I still dont see the "Racism" your shooting zombies. Just happens to be in Africa
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I still dont see the "Racism" your shooting zombies. Just happens to be in Africa
Black people come from africa. How can you be so insensitive? :maf
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/5mlgxy.jpg)
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It has lots of scary black imagery though, those black people are TERRIFYING!
(pic of normal-looking black person in RE5)
Just deny that's racist, that man looks like he's about to dance hooba-dooba and eat me.
wait what do you mean that says more about me
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It has lots of scary black imagery though, those black people are TERRIFYING!
Sounds like the game is just being realistic.
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Why doesn't N'Gai go after "Resistance: The fight to take back America"?
(http://resistance.com/catalog/images/res27cover2.jpg)
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Ugh, I wish Croal would fuck off and find a new career.
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Ugh, I wish Croal would fuck off and find a new career.
racist avatar. Where are the dreadlocks?
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Heh, maybe I should go back to the skinhead:
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/Bildi777/Avatars/Avatar200703.gif)
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Heh, maybe I should go back to the skinhead:
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/Bildi777/Avatars/Avatar200703.gif)
omg ban this filth!
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I like how the game is already TEH RACIST when we know so very little about it. tsk tsk. Filthy PC dirt hippies can't wait to label things.
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Did you guys read the GAF thread? Sporks revealed that he is a "middle class white jew", lawl
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Did you guys read the GAF thread? Sporks revealed that he is a "middle class white jew", lawl
dcharlie told me like 2 years ago. I thought it was common knowledge.
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Maybe to a racist like you
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Did you guys read the GAF thread? Sporks revealed that he is a "middle class white jew", lawl
I loled when I read that too.
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Maybe to a racist like you
You are lucky you aren't on my list.
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So basically this continent is untouchable for game design?
Also, killing crackers are ok as long as it is a cracker that is holding the weapon?
I just need some clarification.
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The GAF thread was a clusterfuck and really showed how dumb people are with respect to race issues. Croal isn't calling anyone racist yet 70% of the posts in that thread were attacking him (with LOTS of venom) over that, and using the dumbest and oldest move in the book - "bububu if this was a black person _____ white people no one would care!"
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GAF thread was a clusterfuck
Oh?
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The GAF thread was a clusterfuck and really showed how dumb people are with respect to race issues. Croal isn't calling anyone racist yet 70% of the posts in that thread were attacking him (with LOTS of venom) over that, and using the dumbest and oldest move in the book - "bububu if this was a black person _____ white people no one would care!"
cigarillo status confirmed.
Yup, we've got a lock on him, he's gay.
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I'm playing Assassin's Creed right now, and never has it felt better to stab jews in their wicked hearts
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I'm playing Assassin's Creed right now, and never has it felt better to stab jews in their wicked hearts
Dat's a bit racialist, ain't it?
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I am just doing a little ethnic cleansing for the good of the world
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What the fuck? How is that racist? It's called business, ask Hollywood. The vast majority of their target audience is asian/white, of course they want to represent them. And considering we don't know much of anything about the game, lets not assume there are no good black characters in the game; I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "Louis" type black dude.
Louis died. Do you want another "the black character always dies first" situation in a movie/game?
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I'm expecting a black female partner.
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What the fuck? How is that racist? It's called business, ask Hollywood. The vast majority of their target audience is asian/white, of course they want to represent them. And considering we don't know much of anything about the game, lets not assume there are no good black characters in the game; I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "Louis" type black dude.
Louis died. Do you want another "the black character always dies first" situation in a movie/game?
The point being that a black partner would kinda lower calls of racism because it would show that all the black characters in the game were not antagonists. We'll see though
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IT'S LUIS
i'm sitting here going 'who the fuck is louie'
and yeah, re5's racial imagery is so fucking embarrassing that i'm not even looking forward to the game. it's weird how games desensitize us to their own stupidity -- i remember i was playing metal slug x in mame once when i had some friends over, and that was the first time i noticed that i was shooting ridiculous arab stereotypes
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PD never played RE4, you will have to forgive him
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They shouldn't be viewed as the antagonists. They're the true victims here and we should look at them like that. It isn't an evil cracker killing black people but a good cracker saving countless other Africans from the true evil cracker wearing sunglasses.
Just because he's saving people with bullets and sweet ass karate kicks doesn't mean he isn't saving them.
cracker robot, no less.
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that's gta
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so does that make himu a self hating black man like clarence thomas?!?!?!!?
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more distinguished black fellow shooting games please
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GTA: Cosby.
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i am so glad we all live in a cultural vacuum
in our little context-free utopia, let us all contemplate the real issue here: that gamers will adopt any stance, no matter how hateful, if the release date of a highly-anticipated franchise installment could potentially be delayed by an issue of slightly inflated cultural relevance
having a dialogue and discussing an issue of perception in a rational fashion is wholly unnecessary, given that we nerds dictate reality
now i must depart, to work shoulder-to-shoulder with a fellow of arbitrarily black skin color in the steely skybound steeples of our egalitarian, meritocratic dream world
god bless president ron paul
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god bless president ron paul
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