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Post by: Borys on April 17, 2008, 04:00:28 AM
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Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Robo on April 17, 2008, 04:02:12 AM
Gears, without question. 
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 04:04:35 AM
The whole lineup of PS3 exclusives.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 17, 2008, 04:06:11 AM
Uncharted. 2007 graphics with 1997 gameplay.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: calcifer on April 17, 2008, 04:06:34 AM
call of duty 4 and halo 3

"The whole lineup of PS3 exclusives."

wow bitter xfag at it again

what ps3 exclusive except the only good one (uncharted) is highly rated?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: The Sceneman on April 17, 2008, 04:10:43 AM
they all got 8's, and they were all hyped to absolute high heaven by sfags

most overhyped and overrated lineup ever

nothing else this gen can top that

Halo hype was quite bad also
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 04:11:22 AM
Bitter?   :lol

You care 10x times more than I do.  Try again.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: calcifer on April 17, 2008, 04:12:09 AM
Bitter?   :lol

You care 10x times more than I do.  Try again.

so that why you mention it ALL THE TIME?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 04:15:22 AM
Seems like you just can't get my posts out of your mind.  It's been a long while since I've partcipated in PS3 hate threads.

Stop caring so much. 
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 17, 2008, 04:32:48 AM
The Uncharted hype and then the love after release is something I will never understand.

R&C is fucking rehash, but at least it A.) Looks Better B.) Plays better.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 04:41:55 AM
TBH, Call of Duty 4 is overrated as well.  I liked it very much, especially its fantastic engine which is capable of high framerates even at 1920x1200 w/max settings. 

However, COD4 is far from the revolutionary game that many in the press hyped it up to be.  I think they were probably too enamored of the stats building to notice that the gameplay is still basically the same. 
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2008, 04:42:29 AM
Gears, without question. 

+1.  Gears would have gotten 7s if the media didn't have a hardon for it.  Maybe less.  At least Uncharted is enjoyable in SP, even if it has some pretty glaring issues.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: trippingmartian on April 17, 2008, 04:53:36 AM
This generation has been very familiar with a few notable, fresh exceptions: Portal, HL2:E2, Lost Odyssey, and Bioshock.  Almost everything else released for consoles this gen is overrated in my opinion and I don't really care to get into what is the "most" overrated.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: drohne on April 17, 2008, 05:51:13 AM
:elephant :elephant :elephant
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: evilol on April 17, 2008, 06:59:34 AM
:elephant :elephant :elephant
why did you edit that post? :-\
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2008, 07:09:51 AM
KETSUI KETSUI KETSUI

WE GET IT ALREADY
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Rman on April 17, 2008, 09:38:58 AM
Bioshock.  Excellent game but not an OMG experience.  It was a solid 8 for me.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eric P on April 17, 2008, 09:47:20 AM
Bioshock.  Excellent game but not an OMG experience.  It was a solid 8 for me.

really?  i liked everything BUT the "game" parts

Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Beezy on April 17, 2008, 09:59:24 AM
COD4 ain't overrated. It's the most fun console FPS I've played (I haven't played R6:V yet so shutup about it).
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Darunia on April 17, 2008, 10:05:58 AM
On impulse I'd say Uncharted. I played through a chunk of the game at a friend's and even though I enjoyed it, I didn't see how it deserved all the 'buy uncharted!!'s. I'd have to experience the whole thing to pass final judgement, but that's my stance so far.

Otherwise I'd have to say CoD4. Pretty good campaign with a few remarkable highlights mission wise, but not something I'd throw goty awards at. The multiplayer also didn't grab me like millions of other people. I spent an entire day doing nothing but matches, but the next day I didn't feel like coming back at all. I'm really more of a co-op/sp kinda guy, but games like TF2 and Halo 3 managed to draw me into their mp a lot longer.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Crushed on April 17, 2008, 10:08:51 AM
The popular games arrrrrrrrrgh I hate popular things.


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BioShock (for its later half) or Uncharted. Maybe No More Heroes?
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Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Powerslave on April 17, 2008, 10:10:51 AM
Final Fantasy 7.

It's been eleven fucking years. The game isn't any good, so shut the fuck up about it, remakes, spin offs, and that shitty fan-fiction you write on your deviantart page.

Better than any game you have ever played or will play.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: tiesto on April 17, 2008, 10:11:45 AM
Seems like every other game is overrated to high heavens nowadays... especially in the genres I don't care about. The Halo 3 hype was pretty intense, and although I liked it more than Halo 1 and 2, the backlash for the game was EXTREMELY heavy.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Grecco on April 17, 2008, 10:26:59 AM
Assassins Creed and Bioshock for sure.  Uncharted wasnt really overrated since it got 8.0s on average. Only hyper Sbots overrated it.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2008, 10:35:44 AM
yaris
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mondain on April 17, 2008, 11:12:32 AM
either Oblivion, Bioshit or Portal... probably Portal
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
:elephant :elephant :elephant

I read what you posted before drohne. You posted truth but: I don't like Xbox very much and I like Playstation very much. I have only problem with the vocal part of sfags. And nowadays gaf is 75% sfags, 20% nintenthings, 4% xbots and 1% pc ellitists.

Owned.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 11:19:21 AM
I can't just name one... here are several instead, the ones that stood out to me highly

* Portal
* Mass Effect
* Oblivion
* Probably any Nintard game, we get it already, grow up

Gears isn't that overrated, it has co-op, which is the shit

I wouldnt even say Uncharted is overrated, it's good and I actually liked it

RESISTANCE I would say is the overrated one, with tards still jerking off over it like it still has any merit

Assassin's Creed is very split 50/50, you have your haters and your lovers, so that can't be an overrated game
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
well said demi.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 12:11:58 PM
seems there's an oblivion backlash

i've noticed on messboards that some of the people who spent dozens or hundreds of hours playing it and posting about it now say it's overrated and awful

"this game sucks, lemme go play it for another forty hours"

gamers are such

(http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/14560000/14565143.JPG)s

Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 12:14:51 PM
Uncharted or Mass Effect no doubt.

Uncharted seemed great until I played it for an extended period of time.  Mass Effect was great until I drove the vehicle and did the side quests
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:15:55 PM
seems there's an oblivion backlash

i've noticed on messboards that some of the people who spent dozens or hundreds of hours playing it and posting about it now say it's overrated and awful

"this game sucks, lemme go play it for another forty hours"

gamers are such

(http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/14560000/14565143.JPG)s



I ran through, due to oblivions SHIT leveling system that only made the game WORSE as you got stronger, and did nothing but the achievements -- etiolate is the one you should be making fun of, having played WoW for upwards to 100 hours or so, only to say it's "not good"

For the record I will be buying Fallout 3, and I will probably hate that too - having never played an Elder Scrolls or Fallout previously
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 12:21:29 PM
either Oblivion, Bioshit or Portal... probably Portal
I hate your irrational hate of Bioshock.  I want to fuck you in your fucking ass every time you mention it being overrated.  in fact, i'm going to fucking skull fuck you.  grab you by your fucking ears and shove my shaft down your throat and fill it with sweet fucking cream.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2008, 12:24:04 PM
bioshock was overhyped perhaps, not overrated.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 12:26:11 PM
demi, why does Oblivion's leveling system make things worse as you go on?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:28:17 PM
Because everyone else around you gets stronger, while your equipment sucks balls

So if you grind and boost your skills early on, you're only fucking yourself

I beat the game at I think Level 13, and you get stronger equipment just by doing the main quests alone, no need to grind or boost at all
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 12:28:25 PM
bioshock was overhyped perhaps, not overrated.

How was it not overrated?

Bioshock has no fewer than 4 fetch quests, an escort mission, 4 enemy types, sucky gunplay, and the Life o Matic tube thing that totally breaks gameplay balance (yes, I realize you can remove this with a patch).

This is what happened with Bioshock:

Ken Levine: blah blah blah blah blah MISE EN SCENE
Gaming press: omg omg omg omg :bow

Nobody asked any questions afterwards, like, "Do you think the game is about 5-6 hours longer than it should be?" or "Why do you build up the little sister as some precious creature and then destroy this in the end?" or "Why do you have a ridiculously bad final boss?" or "Did you run out of ideas and thus put in yet another fetch quest?"

I'd give it a high 8.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 12:29:18 PM
demi, why does Oblivion's leveling system make things worse as you go on?
The fact that the same rats you were slaughtering at the beginning of the game are still formidable foes is kind of obnoxious.  it's tedious as fuck

and he's right about the equipment.  the equipment and leveling systems are incredibly broken.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2008, 12:30:16 PM
bioshock was overhyped perhaps, not overrated.

How was it not overrated?

Bioshock has no fewer than 4 fetch quests, an escort mission, 4 enemy types, sucky gunplay, and the Life o Matic tube thing that totally breaks gameplay balance (yes, I realize you can remove this with a patch).

This is what happened with Bioshock:

Ken Levine: blah blah blah blah blah MISE EN SCENE
Gaming press: omg omg omg omg :bow

Nobody asked any questions afterwards, like, "Do you think the game is about 5-6 hours longer than it should be?" or "Why do you build up the little sister as some precious creature and then destroy this in the end?" or "Why do you have a ridiculously bad final boss?" or "Did you run out of ideas and thus put in yet another fetch quest?"

I'd give it a high 8.
i dunno lol.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 12:30:21 PM
pretty sure the guy that came up with the level scaling idea is not at bethesda anymore  :lol
edit: Uncharted averages a high 8, but I'm not surprised to see more EB trolling of people that don't even post here.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:30:53 PM
I hate to defend PC owners, but if it takes the fanbase to fix what you shipped, then it's clearly a broken and shit game
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 12:33:07 PM
I don't understand how the life tubes in Bioshock are any different from quicksaves. The enemies are still damaged, but your ammo is still used up too so who cares? All you gain is like a third of a health bar from the whole process.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:34:21 PM
The lifetubes are distinguished mentally-challenged because there's no danger of dying, there's no sense of urgency, there's no game over. I can just whack every enemy with a wrench, die, pop out of the tube, whack again, die, repeat repeat
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 12:35:11 PM
I guess if you only used the wrench then there's truly no penalty, but who would do that?

I just used quicksaves anyway, I didn't bother with the tubes.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 12:35:18 PM
I don't understand how the life tubes in Bioshock are any different from quicksaves. The enemies are still damaged, but your ammo is still used up too so who cares? All you gain is like a third of a health bar from the whole process.

Quicksaves don't keep the enemy damaged, though. And ammo isn't a penalty really (you don't lose it all, by the way) when you can use the plasmids to build up a super charged wrench and just whack your way through the game with really no penalty. I would have liked the game way more if you came back to life and the enemies regained their health too.

I guess if you only used the wrench then there's truly no penalty, but who would do that?

I just used quicksaves anyway, I didn't bother with the tubes.
Me, after I ran out of creative plasmid combinations and relied on the basic ones that allow you to build a crazy powerful wrench.

Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eric P on April 17, 2008, 12:35:34 PM
The lifetubes are distinguished mentally-challenged because there's no danger of dying, there's no sense of urgency, there's no game over. I can just whack every enemy with a wrench, die, pop out of the tube, whack again, die, repeat repeat

yes.  i also found it damn near impossible to die with the right "upgrades" or whatever
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
I don't understand how the life tubes in Bioshock are any different from quicksaves. The enemies are still damaged, but your ammo is still used up too so who cares? All you gain is like a third of a health bar from the whole process.

Quicksaves don't keep the enemy damaged, though. And ammo isn't a penalty really (you don't lose it all, by the way) when you can use the plasmids to build up a super charged wrench and just whack your way through the game with really no penalty. I would have liked the game way more if you came back to life and the enemies regained their health too.



Quicksaves don't keep the enemy damaged, but you also have whoamg all your ammo from before you fucked up!

But if the life tubes are giving you bonus ammo too then there's definitely a problem.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
i wasn't talking about you, demi, i know you never liked oblivion

i just noticed all the reversals of opinion i've been seeing around

the leveling never bothered me because of the way i played it
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
i never used the lifetubes.  they were the one thing i hated about the game.  I just loaded my last save when i died.

also, i don't mind fetch quests and the same enemies when I still find the battles engaging and I find the atmosphere engaging.  I guess that explains why i love bioshock and assassins creed so much.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 12:39:37 PM
I don't understand how the life tubes in Bioshock are any different from quicksaves. The enemies are still damaged, but your ammo is still used up too so who cares? All you gain is like a third of a health bar from the whole process.

Quicksaves don't keep the enemy damaged, though. And ammo isn't a penalty really (you don't lose it all, by the way) when you can use the plasmids to build up a super charged wrench and just whack your way through the game with really no penalty. I would have liked the game way more if you came back to life and the enemies regained their health too.



Quicksaves don't keep the enemy damaged, but you also have whoamg all your ammo from before you fucked up!

But if the life tubes are giving you bonus ammo too then there's definitely a problem.

I'm not totally clear on this, but I was told (or read) before the game shipped that there was a significant ammo penalty for dying...and that's not really the case.

And loading quicksaves seems kinda slow for how frequently you could potentially die in the game.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 12:42:30 PM
It doesn't take that long to load the saves and you shouldn't die THAT much in the game.  It's not that heavily populated with enemies.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 12:43:22 PM
i used the lifetubes frequently

i just wanted to see how the story ended and be taken for a ride

too bad the cart derailed and someone threw up on the seat at the end
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:44:44 PM
the saves were useful when doing the Brass Balls achievement... don't use any lifetubes? ok, i will just constantly save!
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: demi on April 17, 2008, 12:57:06 PM
I hate to defend PC owners, but if it takes the fanbase to fix what you shipped, then it's clearly a broken and shit game

Haha bow down before us you achievement whore.

Bow down before us, you mean. Your precious Steam has even adopted achievements.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mondain on April 17, 2008, 01:10:09 PM
bioshock was overhyped perhaps, not overrated.

How was it not overrated?

Bioshock has no fewer than 4 fetch quests, an escort mission, 4 enemy types, sucky gunplay, and the Life o Matic tube thing that totally breaks gameplay balance (yes, I realize you can remove this with a patch).

This is what happened with Bioshock:

Ken Levine: blah blah blah blah blah MISE EN SCENE
Gaming press: omg omg omg omg :bow

Nobody asked any questions afterwards, like, "Do you think the game is about 5-6 hours longer than it should be?" or "Why do you build up the little sister as some precious creature and then destroy this in the end?" or "Why do you have a ridiculously bad final boss?" or "Did you run out of ideas and thus put in yet another fetch quest?"

I'd give it a high 8.

good argumentation that tells how Bioshit truly is

recently it was unveiled that 2K games refused to allow any coverage of the game to press outlets that wouldn't give it their highest level of prominence possible, and that thus the reviews were some of the "best ones ever"... that explains the ridiculously inflated review scores, they basically cheated

what you don't mention however is that it's ridiculously SCRIPTED, you can't walk for five seconds without having an enemy, an NPC, an in-game cutscene or something in the environment harassing you, it's like LEAVE ME ALONE AND LET ME ENJOY THE ATMOSPHERE, DON'T TRY TO START A FLOWERY CONVERSATION WITH ME AT EVERY 10 SECONDS

I just wanted them all to SHUT THE FUCK UP, how are you supposed to be spooked when there's always someone that tells you what's going on, THANK YOU I'M NOT distinguished mentally-challenged I'M ABLE TO FIGURE OUT ON MY OWN WITHOUT ANNOYING NPCS SAYING IT ALOUD

they really fucked the whole System Shock 2 system so that distinguished mentally-challenged casuals could breeze through it, the regeneration tubes that ruin any feeling of tension are further proof of that

the levels are really small and cramped too, that's another disappointment, it's almost Deux Ex IW levels of bad

6/10 at MOST
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: drew on April 17, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
Uncharted, it's Tomb Raider: Douchebag edition.

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It's those Uncharted fans on gaf really, I hate them more than anything in the world
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Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
mondain: flowery conversation??  they have flowery conversations with you?  what version were you playing????
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mondain on April 17, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
they try to tell you pretentious things and talk about philosophy or stuff like that
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 17, 2008, 01:21:15 PM
either Oblivion, Bioshit or Portal... probably Portal
I hate your irrational hate of Bioshock.  I want to fuck you in your fucking ass every time you mention it being overrated.  in fact, i'm going to fucking skull fuck you.  grab you by your fucking ears and shove my shaft down your throat and fill it with sweet fucking cream.

This post gets a thumbs up. Hate on bioshock is usually just nitpicking or issues of taste. Wtf dont like shellfish dont eat shellfish gtfo my place!
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 17, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
they try to tell you pretentious things and talk about philosophy or stuff like that

You mean smart things? Sorry we're all too smart for you, you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2008, 01:23:33 PM
BioShock :bow
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 01:27:56 PM
they try to tell you pretentious things and talk about philosophy or stuff like that
it's not meant to be profound, most of it is meant to be crazy talk and creepy.  what the fuck, man?

either Oblivion, Bioshit or Portal... probably Portal
I hate your irrational hate of Bioshock.  I want to fuck you in your fucking ass every time you mention it being overrated.  in fact, i'm going to fucking skull fuck you.  grab you by your fucking ears and shove my shaft down your throat and fill it with sweet fucking cream.

This post gets a thumbs up. Hate on bioshock is usually just nitpicking or issues of taste. Wtf dont like shellfish dont eat shellfish gtfo my place!
:bow :bow
BioShock :bow
:bow
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 01:30:13 PM
the ending is pretty bad, though

i really enjoyed it up until then
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2008, 01:31:49 PM
It's not that bad.  I think it was jarring, because it's so old school ("Let's throw them a giant boss thing!") and definitely doesn't feel like there was too much thought put into it or into meshing it with the rest of the game.  But it's hardly a deal breaker.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
they try to tell you pretentious things and talk about philosophy or stuff like that

You mean smart things? Sorry we're all too smart for you, you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

:lol
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 01:33:37 PM
It's not that bad.  I think it was jarring, because it's so old school ("Let's throw them a giant boss thing!") and definitely doesn't feel like there was too much thought put into it or into meshing it with the rest of the game.  But it's hardly a deal breaker.

it didn't make me hate the game, but it did make me think of cheesy 80s scifi movies - and God of War, for some reason
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: hyp on April 17, 2008, 01:34:12 PM
they try to tell you pretentious things and talk about philosophy or stuff like that

You mean smart things? Sorry we're all too smart for you, you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

:bow

not surprised to hear him shit all over bioshock.  his game of the universe is hot shots golf.   :lol
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2008, 01:34:56 PM
If BioShock was a PS3 exclusive, Mondain would crap his adult diapers.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eric P on April 17, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
It's not that bad.  I think it was jarring, because it's so old school ("Let's throw them a giant boss thing!") and definitely doesn't feel like there was too much thought put into it or into meshing it with the rest of the game.  But it's hardly a deal breaker.

it didn't make me hate the game, but it did make me think of cheesy 80s scifi movies - and God of War, for some reason

i like that they made him look like the representation of atlas from the sculpture earlier in the game.

i think my favorite moment overall was "a slave obeys, a man chooses"

Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: drew on April 17, 2008, 01:36:49 PM
the ending is pretty bad, though

i really enjoyed it up until then

I barely even made it halfway.  Guess it's time to go look up the ending on youtube.

Bioshock was just depressing, it came out completely at the wrong time for me.  I probably would have been really into it if it came out during Winter, but during Summer all I really am in the mood to play is flowery shit like Forza 2.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
:bow Forza 2 :bow2

Is Forza 2 pretentious too, Mondain?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
the ending is pretty bad, though

i really enjoyed it up until then

I barely even made it halfway.  Guess it's time to go look up the ending on youtube.

Bioshock was just depressing, it came out completely at the wrong time for me.  I probably would have been really into it if it came out during Winter, but during Summer all I really am in the mood to play is flowery shit like Forza 2.

The ending is like 12 seconds long lol
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 02:01:58 PM
My favorite part of Bioshock IS the early game when they ARE spouting pretentious shit at you. The stuff with the doctor is BRILLIANT, and it never really does that again throughout the entire game. The only other part that is so explicitly well narrated is the Sander Cohen part, and that's just so obnoxiously referential that you almost need a guidebook to understand exactly what he was talking about.

The Iceman Fucking Cometh? kewl lol *pow pow*
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 17, 2008, 02:46:18 PM
i just messed with the difficulty setting until i found a balance i was happy with
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed Bioshock, it's one of the only SP FPSes that I actually played to the end.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 03:04:06 PM
Mondain has interesting tastes, to say the least.

Here is his review of Ratatouille:

Hooray, another cut & paste Pixar job with the same mix of "coming of age" themes and annoying animals that talk and make bad jokes! Aren't you tired of always seeing refinements of the same core film over and over again?

And don't go tell me that this had poignant emotional moments, there are countless old european cartoons who were placed in a similar Paris setting and did a MUCH better job at telling a good story. But oh, no one remembers them because either they've never been broadcasted in America, or no one cares because they're not 3D.

The only good thing about Pixar films are the character designs. Also, I'm happy that kiddy Disney films now feature guns and acknoledge terms like "killing", "afterfile" and "death".

I've never been this glad to send back a film through the mail
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Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 03:10:43 PM
mondain supporting my argument destroyed it  :'(
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 17, 2008, 03:14:06 PM
No More Heroes by far.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 03:15:48 PM
bioshock was overhyped perhaps, not overrated.

How was it not overrated?

Bioshock has no fewer than 4 fetch quests, an escort mission, 4 enemy types, sucky gunplay, and the Life o Matic tube thing that totally breaks gameplay balance (yes, I realize you can remove this with a patch).

This is what happened with Bioshock:

Ken Levine: blah blah blah blah blah MISE EN SCENE
Gaming press: omg omg omg omg :bow

Nobody asked any questions afterwards, like, "Do you think the game is about 5-6 hours longer than it should be?" or "Why do you build up the little sister as some precious creature and then destroy this in the end?" or "Why do you have a ridiculously bad final boss?" or "Did you run out of ideas and thus put in yet another fetch quest?"

I'd give it a high 8.

Just out of curiosity, what would you give Resistance since you think so highly of it?  

Personally, I liked Bioshock for the same reasons that I didn't like Resistance.  Bioshock had atmosphere and mechanics which feel unique for a FPS whereas Resistance was like every other well known FPS but a bit more bland and boring.  
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Rman on April 17, 2008, 03:24:53 PM
I thought NMH reviewed badly.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Darunia on April 17, 2008, 03:25:34 PM
Bioshock was too long, or rather: the content after the Ryan reveal wasn't as interesting as what preceded it. I'm not saying the game should have ended at that moment, but it was an important plot point and you kind of expect the game to go from there, but it didn't. The areas post-Ryan looked like they could've come from a dozen other games (gritty urban environment, hospital), in contrast to pretty fucked up areas like the Medical Pavillion, the gardens (forgot the name) en Fort Frolic.
After that came a fucking boss battle of all things, and a poor one at that, so I feel the game didn't end on a particularly good note.

I may come off as negative here, so let it be known that I thoroughly enjoyed BioShock up until that point and I was ready to sing its praises with little ifs and buts, but then the game overstayed its welcome.

That is why I welcome experiences like Portal, Gears of War and other shorter campaigns. Don't pad your game with content because you have to cater to the 'it's $€60 so I better get my money's worth' crowd.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Bloodwake on April 17, 2008, 03:37:04 PM
The most overrated game this gen was, without a doubt, Gears of War.

The multiplayer wasn't that great, and it quickly gets boring. The campaign is way too short, and the atmosphere that's praised to high heaven is ineffective because of the lack of diversity in the atmosphere. Seriously, I think every ingame environment in that game looked the same. One dark gray place after another.

The only interesting thing about the entire game was the final stage and the final boss. That was the only time I really enjoyed Gears. That was basically it.

Other than that, Perfect Dark Zero was rated pretty highly. OVERFUCKINGRATED AS SHIT. One of the worst games this gen.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 03:50:02 PM
don't mistake my defense of resistance from the horde as any infatuation with it-- it is only at times great. Cheddar gorge, angel's nest, some others...

Grade deflated score of 7.5
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Vizzys on April 17, 2008, 04:29:42 PM
COD4

so you haven't played it online?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: The Sceneman on April 17, 2008, 05:16:12 PM
Mondain has interesting tastes, to say the least.

Here is his review of Ratatouille:

Hooray, another cut & paste Pixar job with the same mix of "coming of age" themes and annoying animals that talk and make bad jokes! Aren't you tired of always seeing refinements of the same core film over and over again?

And don't go tell me that this had poignant emotional moments, there are countless old european cartoons who were placed in a similar Paris setting and did a MUCH better job at telling a good story. But oh, no one remembers them because either they've never been broadcasted in America, or no one cares because they're not 3D.

The only good thing about Pixar films are the character designs. Also, I'm happy that kiddy Disney films now feature guns and acknoledge terms like "killing", "afterfile" and "death".

I've never been this glad to send back a film through the mail
.

wow what impeccable taste of the arts, what are these old european cartoons youre talking about? Care to name any?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: y2kev on April 17, 2008, 05:19:28 PM
COD4

omfg yes
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eric P on April 17, 2008, 05:20:42 PM
gay purr-ee, right?
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 17, 2008, 06:28:17 PM
Oblivion easily gets my vote. It's the cheap and nasty pizza buffet bar of gaming-tons of content, none of it interesting, and the actual digestion of the game's mechanics will make you feel ill.

PC modders sort of salvaged the game for that platform, but it's a big heaping POS if you play it on a console or aren't willing to go through the herculean effort to mod it to hell and back on the PC.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 17, 2008, 06:33:21 PM
Morrowind was more memorable for me
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Eric P on April 17, 2008, 06:34:15 PM
Morrowind was more memorable for me

goddamn i loved morrowind

i should buy that again

it can't be expensive
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 06:43:14 PM
What makes Morrowind better than Oblivion, other than the leveling system?  I never got too deep into Morrowind because it's so hard to keep track of objectives. 

Objectives tracking is probably the best thing about Oblivion. 
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
Did anyone here like the dialogues in Oblivion?

It was well done for a game of its type.  The minigame got boring fast though. 
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
The answer is SMG you dumbs.

smg is overrated, but it's not the MOST overrated. i'd go with uncharted, gears, or smash bros.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2008, 08:35:39 PM
but unlike uncharted/gears/smash, smg is actually good! not 10/10 good, but a sore sight better than those other three offerings
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Laramie on April 17, 2008, 09:50:49 PM
Easily "Drake's Schicksal"  (fuckin kittonwy).  It was supposed to be a fun adventure game but I just could not get over the amount of pirates.  It was like a Goddamn pirate nation out there.  That is ridiculous.  There are nowhere near that many pirates anywhere in the real world. 

Plus the boss was dumb.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 17, 2008, 11:35:40 PM
Gears.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Akala on April 18, 2008, 12:57:45 AM
COD4. Couldn't finish the SP due to boredom, and Couldn't get into MP. What makes it worse is that it's all my friends play. :punch
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 18, 2008, 10:38:49 AM
I borrowed it off my friend and I just can't get myself to play it. I did the first mission on my PS3, I've seen a later one at his house and a  middle one at another friend's house. None of those three parts were interesting. Just wait for the sequel.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Rman on April 18, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
I want to play Resistance 1. I think it looks interesting and I always liked shooting some kind of aliens more than humans (Halo, Doom etc.). Fuck Kittonwy, Resistance is probably really good.

I want to play R1 as well.  I liked the demo, but no way in hell am I paying 60 dollars for it.  I don't get why million sellers don't drop in price to at least 40 dollars after 9 months or so.  Gears is still $60 msrp.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 18, 2008, 10:57:38 AM
Yup. EB doesn't even stock any used copies, at least not on their site.
Title: Re: So what's the most overrated game of this gen?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2008, 10:58:06 AM
Yes, it's weird that Sony doesn't even cut the prices of games that didn't sell very well.  

I wanted to give Motorstorm a 2nd try but it's still $60.  I traded my copy with a friend after having only played it for 2 levels.  

The game wasn't bad but the long loading times drove me nuts.  $60 is simply too much for something that I didn't even like that much.  

I might as well wait for Motorstorm 2 which is coming out pretty soon.