THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: GilloD on April 20, 2008, 10:05:52 AM
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I kind of hated Bully for the first 2 hours. Gary was a prick, your choices were really restricted and the environment, while beautifully rendered, was sort of boring, like strolling through a museum. But once the town opens up, it becomes a ZOMG fest of pure joy. There's no mistaking it for anything other than a port (Oh! The things we take for granted!), btu I hope R* has taken some of the lessons of Bully to heart for GTA4. They've never done such a cohesive, realized environment before. Thematically, it's just so tight.
And the music is totally top notch. I'm glad to see they didn't just shoe horn in some radio stations and call it a day. I'm really liking this game, it's got something no other R* title has.
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Best Sandbox game from Rockstar imo
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How come when I praised Bully people shat all over me and this guy gets away scat-free?
What is this, high school?
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How come when I praised Bully people shat all over me and this guy gets away scat-free?
What is this, high school?
SHUT UP distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, I was praising this game as well HOLY SHIT
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I was amazed how the texture set changes per season :O
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I hit the wall early too, getting really annoyed at everything. But once you get past Halloween it's really damn good. There's not a lot of variety but it's quite well designed.
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Ill say this. Getting the 100 percent achievment is a bitch
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Persona 3 is fail because it's a Japanese HS simulator
but Bully is win for the same reasons
another quality opinion from Evilbore
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Persona 3 is fail because it's a Japanese HS simulator
but Bully is win for the same reasons
another quality opinion from Evilbore
i am repeating to myself that you are smarter than this
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I haven't played Persona. I thought it was along the lines of the Shin Megami games or something that I don't have time for.
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I played the shit out of Bully and loved it, and my wifey played the shit out of Persona 3 and seemed to have a good time. :elephant
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That's the answer I was looking for, Persona is for vaginas, Bully is for men with big dicks
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Persona 3 is fail because it's a Japanese HS simulator
but Bully is win for the same reasons
another quality opinion from Evilbore
:bow Patel :bow2
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Persona is for Japafags, Bully is for guys with good taste in games
(Am i doing it right)?
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Persona 3 is fail because it's a Japanese HS simulator
but Bully is win for the same reasons
another quality opinion from Evilbore
kill yourself. They're not even close to the same thing.
Ill say this. Getting the 100 percent achievment is a bitch
And getting 100% isn't hard. I did it on PS2, but I haven't had the time to go back and do it on 360, but I mean shit, man. Everything is mapped out in the 360 version because of the Geography class. Man up, sugar.
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That's the answer I was looking for, Persona is for vaginas, Bully is for men with big dicks
:rofl
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Ill say this. Getting the 100 percent achievment is a bitch
And getting 100% isn't hard. I did it on PS2, but I haven't had the time to go back and do it on 360, but I mean shit, man. Everything is mapped out in the 360 version because of the Geography class. Man up, sugar.
I got it days ago. Didnt stop it from being a bitch. Drink 500 sodas, pass all these classes (classes made for the wii mote that suck ass with a pad. ) finish all the races. Time consuming
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And getting 100% isn't hard. I did it on PS2, but I haven't had the time to go back and do it on 360, but I mean shit, man. Everything is mapped out in the 360 version because of the Geography class. Man up, sugar.
So Geography class shows you more on the map? :lol I was wondering why all those icons never appeared. I stopped doing classes after I got the achievements for them.
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Persona 3 is fail because it's a Japanese HS simulator
but Bully is win for the same reasons
another quality opinion from Evilbore
kill yourself. They're not even close to the same thing.
Ill say this. Getting the 100 percent achievment is a bitch
And getting 100% isn't hard. I did it on PS2, but I haven't had the time to go back and do it on 360, but I mean shit, man. Everything is mapped out in the 360 version because of the Geography class. Man up, sugar.
Geography is a pian because if you're not 100% on top of the pin- even if you're inside the country- it doesn't count. F that
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Yeah some of those classes that are made for the Wiimote like Geography or Biology are a pain in the ass with the controller because the default scroll speed is extremely slow. I had to redo Biology 5 about four times before I made it, and I literally finished the SECOND the timer went out.
But, I don't see how finishing classes is going out of your way for 100%, I do them all as soon as I can so I have more time during the day to do missions. And the GoKart races produce one awesome fucking reward.
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I liked the scooter more than the gokart
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RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE, BULLY THREAD.
Yeah, so, I'm playing this again. It is the best thing Rockstar has made this generation, except possibly Chinatown Wars DS. How sad is that?
So much to do on the side, and the story is even interesting. Too bad we'll never see a real sequel to this game.
Were the scooters in the PS2 version? I don't remember them, and have no idea where to bag a helmet.
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Never played this game. I hope they release it on PSN.
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I didn't like this game much. It was okay. Too easy, and the missions mostly sucked.
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What's the best version of this game? I see that it still runs for $30 on steam
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360 or PC. definitely not wii
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There are extra classes and missions in the 360 version compared to the PS2 original. The music class is annoying, geography is fun, and the last level of Biology requires the reflexes of a 10 year old. On Jolt.
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you people need to stop playing shitty games.
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hows the wii version
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Reading my old posts made me lol
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What's the reward for go-cart races? And when do they open up? I'm at winter now.
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you people need to stop playing shitty games.
you need to quit molesting goats
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you people need to stop playing shitty games.
you need to quit molesting goats
why? don't want another brother or sister?
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you people need to stop playing shitty games.
you need to quit molesting goats
why? don't want another brother or sister?
Accepting the fact that with a beard I guess I kind of look like a goat, you're still younger than me and therefore it's impossible for you to be my dad.
Now, since I'm adopted we might be brothers considering your mom's line of work...
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It's like a goddamn shooting gallery in here.
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I felt compelled to check this game out upon Chronovore's recommendation in the other thread, so I was able to get the PS2 version from a gaffer for only $5 shipped (essentially just paying for shipping) :smug
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I wish I could buy this on Steam
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I felt compelled to check this game out upon Chronovore's recommendation in the other thread, so I was able to get the PS2 version from a gaffer for only $5 shipped (essentially just paying for shipping) :smug
Total bargain. The PS2 version is plenty of fun.
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Bully is cool, I played it for a while and enjoyed it. Maybe even more than GTAIII. But eventually I ran into the same problem I have with all the GTA games...they just get boring after 5-10 hours of doing the same things over and over. I've never finished a single GTA game or Bully. I dunno, I respect Rockstar's Sandbox games and I do like buying them because I get a fun 5-10 hours out of them, but in the long run they don't click with me.
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Bully is cool, I played it for a while and enjoyed it. Maybe even more than GTAIII. But eventually I ran into the same problem I have with all the GTA games...they just get boring after 5-10 hours of doing the same things over and over. I've never finished a single GTA game or Bully. I dunno, I respect Rockstar's Sandbox games and I do like buying them because I get a fun 5-10 hours out of them, but in the long run they don't click with me.
I would agree, but Bully is an exception. The characters and setting was interesting enough to keep me going. Otherwise I'm right there with you, I quit like 5 hours into every GTA game I attempt to play.
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Yeah some of those classes that are made for the Wiimote like Geography or Biology are a pain in the ass with the controller because the default scroll speed is extremely slow. I had to redo Biology 5 about four times before I made it, and I literally finished the SECOND the timer went out.
But, I don't see how finishing classes is going out of your way for 100%, I do them all as soon as I can so I have more time during the day to do missions. And the GoKart races produce one awesome fucking reward.
Other than being a typical American and having no idea about Middle East geography, the maps aren't really a problem. I got the US one once I overcame my antipathy for The Red States, and I passed the Asia region one in single pass. The layout's not too bad for the slow cursor speed, and if you get close to the X on each spot, it locks to the region and turns light blue. No problem.
OTOH, godDAMN Biology is hard. You got it in 4 tries? I'm pretty sure I was over a dozen when I finally cleared it tonight. I had the last item in my forceps, headed to the collection tray when time ran out. I thought I was going to lose my mind. Four more tries and I finally got it, somehow the time I made it, I had 12 or 13 seconds left, and would have had more if I didn't have a little stress spaz out on the frog intestines.
Anyway, you say those were added for the Wii version. I believe you, and also think they didn't test the 360 version with normal humans.
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Played this a bunch more yesterday as well. The missions are a lot easier than I remember them being the first time on PS2. "Panty Raid" took me 6 tries the first time, and yesterday I got it on the first go, running from room to room.
The Geography classes adding to your map is a bit of genius. I've been clearing the map a little at a time; this is one of the few times I think I'll go for all the collectibles.
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At long last, BULLY started dropping 'cheevs like a piñata drops candy. In the space of a single play session, it popped 150GS:
- MARATHON: Travel 100,000 meters on foot. 25
- DOWN FOR THE COUNT: Beat up 200 opponents 20
- JUNIOR: Complete Chapter 3 20
- BLACK & WHITE & READ ALL OVER: Complete All Paper Route Missions 20
- SPEED FREAK: Complete ½ of all Go Kart Races 20
- MOMMA'S BOY: Complete 30 Errand Missions 25
- DUAL NEBULA: Achieve A High Score on Consumo, Nut Shots, and Monkey Fling Arcade Games 20
I'm going to get the full 1000GS on this, and grin the whole time. What a game.
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Bully :bow2
Rockstar's best game.
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How the fuck is this Rockstar's best game? People keep saying this but I don't understand why? It's no where nearly as good as Red Dead, Vice City, San Andreas, The Warriors, or Max Payne 2?
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How the fuck is this Rockstar's best game? People keep saying this but I don't understand why? It's no where nearly as good as Red Dead, Vice City, San Andreas, The Warriors, or Max Payne 2?
Because our opinion is better than yours.
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The Warriors did a good job of bringing the brawler into last generation, after a long absence. (Urban Reign is a better brawler but with less "meat" despite its superior depth.) Red Dead Revolver was not bad for an atmospheric western shooter, but shallow and largely based in repeating a mission until the spawnpoints are recognizable; never a formula which engenders affection from me. San Andreas is a good game, but instead of bringing any new or varied gameplay, it falls victim to the trend established with Vice City: thinking bigger is better, and adding a needlessly filigreed rococo level of detail to gameplay established in the predecessor.
What Bully did is to take the GTA formula, comprehend the basic model of what makes it attractive, then successfully adapt it for a younger audience WHILE varying the gameplay and telling a more coherent story than San Andreas or any other GTA (VCS, LCS) until GTA IV, which itself eschews most of the side missions solely to focus on the story.
In short, Bully evolves the formula and proves that it's not based on hiring hookers, killing them for the cash you just gave them, and running drugs and killing Cubans. Bully proves that the sandbox formula can be compelling for both story and side missions, all of which are offered in an internally-consistent format to the game world's logic and presentation.
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How the fuck is this Rockstar's best game? People keep saying this but I don't understand why? It's no where nearly as good as Red Dead, Vice City, San Andreas, The Warriors, or Max Payne 2?
:punch
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I just see Bully as a simplified version of the Warriors and GTA. The mission variety is crap, the game is piss easy, and its full of useless features likes school which have no bearing on the gameplay past the first 2 or so hours.
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I think you're missing something Himuro...
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I just see Bully as a simplified version of the Warriors and GTA. The mission variety is crap, the game is piss easy, and its full of useless features likes school which have no bearing on the gameplay past the first 2 or so hours.
I don't understand, everything you just said about the game is wrong.
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I just see Bully as a simplified version of the Warriors and GTA. The mission variety is crap, the game is piss easy, and its full of useless features likes school which have no bearing on the gameplay past the first 2 or so hours.
What the fuck. Himu, did you even play Bully? That sounds nothing like this game.
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So the game isn't too easy? That's what I remember.
I also remember the missions not really being that great. I found GTA4 disappointing for similar reasons. I want to bust a cap in a nicca, not go on dates at the carnival.
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The missions are so much more interesting than GTA garbage. It's not that easy either.
I want to bust a cap in a nicca, not go on dates at the carnival.
So you want this game to alter your DNA?
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Stop disagreeing with the forum hive mind, Himu.
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It would be fine if he was disagreeing with an opinion, but stating the missions are crap is factually wrong.
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It would be fine if he was disagreeing with an opinion, but stating the missions are crap is factually wrong.
Stating that Bully is anything less than spectacular is factually wrong.
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Himu's welcome to any wrong-headed opinion he cares to have, and to voice it. We're free to stomp the hell out of it. That's the nature of this place, whereas NeoGAF seems to have a hard-on for banning anything that might escalate to "interesting."
As for the classes having little or nothing to do with the story... IT'S A GAME-BASED SCHOOL SIMULATION, and unlike the most recent GTA it actually provides you with additional abilities in-game. Or you can ignore them, be truant, and get busted by the prefects or police for wandering around when you should be in school, which is in line with the representation of a student's life.
I do have to agree though; the missions are a lot easier than I remember. I've only failed two missions out of 40 or so, and one of those was being auto-busted by the po-po for breaking curfew. The Panty Raid mission and the Tenements mission took me several attempts when I played the original on PS2.
I wonder if they toned it down for Scholarship Edition, or if I was just misfondling the controls back then.
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I didn't beat Bully, but I played like 50% of it maybe, and got bored. Maybe it gets better in the second half, but I thought most of the missions up to that point were mostly terrible, whereas many missions in GTA3 and VC require I dunno...strategy of some sort, like "Sayonara Salvatore" or " Waka Gashira Wipeout" (the mission where you assassinate Kenji). These missions not only offer multiple ways to complete them, they're just well designed from top to bottom.
And yes, I felt the game was too easy.
I'm not saying school has little to do with the game's story. I'm saying that once you get to a certain, point you don't HAVE to go to school anymore when it was the game's main gimmick at first.
And I played the game on the original ps2.
I like the premise, and I especially love the dialogue and characters, but the gameplay...eh..
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Then again, I'm half wondering if the game isn't a lot easier because we've played it before on PS2. My second run through on GTA IV for the "Liberty City Minute" Achievement was a cakewalk compared to my first run. I knew what each of the missions required and had beat them all before, so there was no trial and error then. That is probably the same in this situation.
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How the fuck is this Rockstar's best game? People keep saying this but I don't understand why? It's no where nearly as good as Red Dead, Vice City, San Andreas, The Warriors, or Max Payne 2?
max payne 2 is remedy
and yeah bully is crap
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I'm not saying school has little to do with the game's story. I'm saying that once you get to a certain, point you don't HAVE to go to school anymore when it was the game's main gimmick at first.
scholarship edition added more classes so that school takes you through most of the year. plus it adds some awesome bonus missions.
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Oh for real?
I may have to check out that version out.
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Yeah, the Geography class is fun and has excellent rewards, the Music class not so much (Boooring). Biology has a certain charm, but the last level is pretty frustrating with a standard controller.
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wasn't the 360 version of scholarship edition bugged to hell though? the majority of the classes seemed better suited to the wii remote (chemistry, music, geography).
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They released an update but I 1000'd the game with minimal effort. It's not a bad port.
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wasn't the 360 version of scholarship edition bugged to hell though? the majority of the classes seemed better suited to the wii remote (chemistry, music, geography).
The new classes are probably best for the wiimote (bio, not chem, btw), but it doesn't really affect anything other than motherfucking Biology.
It's been patched, but its still not without its visual glitches and the framerate occasionally drops to 10~15FPS (For Pete's Sake), but I've not had the game hang once, and no bugs in the gameplay at all, e.g. mistargeting, mission doesn't complete, mis-scored missions. It's been a fun ride except for being easier than I remember.