isn't it always? I mean, it hates on gaf when it essentially gaf 2.02.0 > 1.0
evilbore itself is self ownage
himumumu throws the book (the quran) at all hatersDon't you mean the English to French dictionary?
The only thing PD can count is cheeseburger dicks.
fuck youwhy are you being such a dick to me? You're mean.
what's up with that gayass leaping jumpsame as every other gta since gta3
:bow :bow saints row 2 :bow2 :bow2
featuring actual aiming controls, real gangsta action, and no taco story shit
:bow :bow saints row 2, real rollin', real thuggin', real ballin' :bow2 :bow2
Haven't seen the videos (youtube blocked at work), but now.. what people are saying is, the draw distance is still shit, and aiming controls are still shit?Don't know about aiming, but the hand to hand combat still looked like shit.
how anybody could be excited for this game is beyond me
looks and plays like shit
:piss GTAIV :piss2
*goes and plays Stranglehold*
Next time I'm in NYC, I'm gonna turn around really fast and see if a whole block of skyscrapers suddenly materializes right in front of me...
Next time I'm in NYC, I'm gonna turn around really fast and see if a whole block of skyscrapers suddenly materializes right in front of me...
Rockstar put a fuckload of cash and effort into turning out something for us to play, and people can't shut the fuck up about how much it sucks because other people like it.
this place is turning into 4chan
this place is turning into 4chan
Then by all means, please join himuro on GAF.
raban, relax.
you are making this personal.
I read it more like "LEAVE ROCKSTAR ALONE!!!"
I'm being quite reserved, actually. I try to watch my posts here, since so many are met with sarcasm rather than rational thought, but the ceaseless criticism of games at this site is getting a little old hat.
I'm being quite reserved, actually. I try to watch my posts here, since so many are met with sarcasm rather than rational thought, but the ceaseless criticism of games at this site is getting a little old hat.
OH GOD IT GOT SO MISINTERPRETED
I'm being quite reserved, actually. I try to watch my posts here, since so many are met with sarcasm rather than rational thought, but the ceaseless criticism of games at this site is getting a little old hat.
It's a fair point.
But you shouldn't avoid making a real post because you worry about the response, there are those here who will give a proper response.
I felt the same way when I first started posting here. I think I acted like you and lowered my standards, instead we should go ahead and make substantive posts.
I post this rather than PM it with full knowledge that I am now a fagurt like y2kev.
I praise just as many, if not more, games than I criticize... GTA is just a series that I've never warmed up to, even after countless attempts at trying to, and I've expressed why exactly I dislike it so many times that now, at this point, it's completely redundant.
fagurt? ill be honest ive never heard that one before.
EB Smash fans > EB GTA fans
rabid bitches? :lolEB Smash fans > EB GTA fans
at least you rabid bitches kept it to one thread, you get props for that
EDIT: what I don't understand about game bashing is, sure, okay, if you can tell the game is some low budget piece of drivel that the devs popped out for a quick buck, fine. But a game like this, Rockstar put a fuckload of cash and effort into turning out something for us to play, and people can't shut the fuck up about how much it sucks because other people like it. I mean seriously, folks, say what you want about the series, but own up to how many nights of sweet love-making sessions with their wives that most of the Rockstar staff willingly gave up to make this game.Honestly, who gives a fuck? You guys glorify developers way too much. :lol
rabid bitches? :lol
We didn't bitch and cry when a game we like got trolled. We just ignored them for the most part.
Honestly, who gives a fuck? You guys glorify developers way too much. :lol
Since when does cash + effort immediately = great game? Why does it bother you so much that a few people don't like your favorite game when you know millions of others will?
Forget this, I'm going back to sleep. People who take shit seriously on the internet, especially videogames, are fuckin weird.
Well, this thread purpose and message is still right for the most part. GTA4 does look good and run relatively well. It is the gameplay that is fucked.
I don't know why I'm bothering saying this, but this game does look and run significantly better on the PS3.
I played both versions on the same HDTV, and was honestly surprised at how big the difference was. Most of the reviews said there were small differences, but they seemed quite noticeable to me.
Smoother framerate on the PS3 version. 360 version may have more "high points", but it's low points are far more noticeable than they are on the PS3. The PS3 version seems to be locked around 30, while the 360 seems to bounce from 40 to 20 on a regular basis. The 360 version also has textures popping in almost constantly. Even small grass chunks will pop in as you walk around in a field. This is simply not as noticeable on the PS3. Lastly, the shadows are really not good on the 360. Much better on the PS3.
Anyway, the game isn't gorgeous on either system, but I just felt it should be said, that if you want to fairly judge the game's graphics, do so while looking at the PS3 version.spoiler (click to show/hide)Before you go making some dumb comment about how I just love the PS3, I'd be glad to point out a recent game where the gaming media said both versions look about the game, and I think the 360 version looks significantly better. GRID.[close]
I don't know why I'm bothering saying this, but this game does look and run significantly better on the PS3.
Smoother framerate on the PS3 version. 360 version may have more "high points", but it's low points are far more noticeable than they are on the PS3. The PS3 version seems to be locked around 30, while the 360 seems to bounce from 40 to 20 on a regular basis.
I already saw some lunatic who ran tests on the PS3 and 360 versions and proved that 360 had the better frame rate.
I don't know why I'm bothering saying this, but this game does look and run significantly better on the PS3.
Smoother framerate on the PS3 version. 360 version may have more "high points", but it's low points are far more noticeable than they are on the PS3. The PS3 version seems to be locked around 30, while the 360 seems to bounce from 40 to 20 on a regular basis.
Bullshit. I own the game on both systems and went back and forth between the two and the framerate on the PS3 was noticeably worse. Try driving over one of the bridges at full speed with heavy traffic on the PS3 and then do the same on the 360. The PS3 drops to N64 Perfect Dark levels of framerate. Locked at 30? Pfft. Only if you're fucking high.
The texture pop-in is worse on the 360 and the shimmering shadows are more pronounced as well but the game does run at a higher resolution and honestly it was a refreshing change to go back to the 360 GTA4 after playing the PS3 version for its visual clarity. The jaggy vasoline filter thing on the PS3 is just too much after awhile.
I think you'll find little argument with the statement that reviewers were wrong about GTA4.
One thing that stuns me is that they didn't get the object pop-up fixed from previous games. Part of me wishes that they'd just design it so "if you can't see it, you can drive through it." Plenty of races have been rudely interrupted by a piece of non-destructible geometry that just hasn't bothered to render yet.that would mean they would have to be rendering the collision under the terrain at all times, but not the stuff on top of it, which would mean the renderer would need to further render a whole other collision type, slowing it down further.
I was cool with that in the PS2 version because it seemed like they were really stretching an old engine to its limits, but with this change to a brand new engine and architecture, I'd assumed they'd get this right. I mean, why not make the LOD-limited items all destructible?