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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 12:59:31 AM

Title: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 12:59:31 AM
Who designed this?  It's a multiplayer tactical shooter with some of the worst controls ever.  It's slow and sucks.  Honestly, it feels as crippling in terms of multiplayer controls as Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops.  It plays almost exactly like Portable Ops, horrible damage physics and all.  This blows.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 01:02:01 AM
This game is so awful, I probably COULD make a better shooter with shitty freeware PC tools and that's just sad.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 26, 2008, 01:03:17 AM
:yuck

MGS:PO is the first MGS game that I didn't play to completion.  It was mostly the PSP's fault though.  I don't see how MGO can play this bad with 2 analog sticks. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 01:06:21 AM
Yeah, instead of fighting the camera (which, by the way, YOU STILL DO!), you spend most of your time fighting the controls.  In most games made after 2000, a simple press of a button will swap to a sidearm or throw a grenade.  But in the amazing world of Metal Gear Online, you must go through a Mass Effect-type inventory to select your weapon (although you may cycle through your ENTIRE INVENTORY by pressing R2 lightly - pressing too hard will be bring up the whole thing), then equip it and fire.  So to throw a grenade, you go through the inventory menu, select grenade, throw it, go through your inventory again, select your main firearm and engage.

If you die in the middle of this - don't worry, it's normal!
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 26, 2008, 01:10:05 AM
Is there at least a "last weapon" key like Half-life 2?  That's pretty disappointing to hear that the weapon selection hasn't been changed much from the PS2 games.  Shane B from 1up was going on about how the controls are way more intuitive now.  Fucking liar. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: MCD on April 26, 2008, 01:11:23 AM
there is a last weapon key in mgs games.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 26, 2008, 01:18:24 AM
I remember there's a quick-arm key to switch from unarmed combat to guns.  I'm not sure if there's a key to switch back to the last weapon though. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: MCD on April 26, 2008, 01:20:34 AM
quick press R1 (don't hold) that should select last weapon used.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Rman on April 26, 2008, 01:21:48 AM
I love MGS, but I could never understand the love for the online versions, which started with MGS3.  The control is clunky and the game is just not fun.  I don't get the hype honestly.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 01:30:20 AM
quick press R1 (don't hold) that should select last weapon used.

The triggers don't even work effectively.  Otherwise, hitting R1 does melee damage or fires if you have aim on.  Headshots are impossible unless you go into first-person view and that's just a hassle.

What an awful multiplayer game.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 01:33:06 AM
Also, what total and complete bullshit that we have to not only go through multiple delays, two patches (before we can even login), registering a PSN account and then registering a separate Konami ID account to play this beta - and it fucking blows.

I'm still going to get Metal Gear Solid 4, but I'm really irked! :maf
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: demi on April 26, 2008, 01:34:23 AM
Did anyone play the Siren demo?
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 26, 2008, 01:37:20 AM
I'll download Siren tonight.  But I won't try too hard to figure it out if it requires me to read Japanese. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Rman on April 26, 2008, 01:37:50 AM
It's like the Japanese are clueless about online implementation.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: calcifer on April 26, 2008, 01:46:46 AM
except it's not

most fun online game since quake 2
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 26, 2008, 01:53:29 AM
actually it's pretty fun. 

but i did this really crazy thing before playing...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I did the tutorial and learned the controls.
[close]
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 02:05:34 AM
I also learned the controls.  It did not stop them from being horribly clunky and awful.  Saying that this game handles well or has optimized controls is a slap in the face to real gamers.  Maybe because I expect modern game design in my modern games makes me crazy, I dunno!
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 26, 2008, 02:07:24 AM
The controls are poor for a multiplayer game. Like the original MGO. They basically did the same thing. Streamlined the controls for the singleplayer and shoe-horned them into  multiplayer.

Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: calcifer on April 26, 2008, 02:10:24 AM
I also learned the controls.  It did not stop them from being horribly clunky and awful.  Saying that this game handles well or has optimized controls is a slap in the face to real gamers.  Maybe because I expect modern game design in my modern games makes me crazy, I dunno!

ARGH THE CONTROLLS ARENT GROUNDBREAKING NOW I CANT PLAY THIS AWESOME FUN GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 26, 2008, 02:16:14 AM
I also learned the controls.  It did not stop them from being horribly clunky and awful.  Saying that this game handles well or has optimized controls is a slap in the face to real gamers.  Maybe because I expect modern game design in my modern games makes me crazy, I dunno!

I just played through all three MGS games in the past month though, so I'm fine with the controls. They are more comfortable here than in MGS3.
It's clear that the controls suck for run n' gun showdowns, which is how everybody is playing it right now...that's right, it's not the controls, it's how people are playing.  :lol  People aren't even communicating all that much yet...it's clearly day 1 of a new game. The later days of MGS3 online were fun because you had people who were smart about laying low and toasting guys who tried to play it like it's fucking Quake 3 Arena.  I find the more cautiously I play, the better I do.  That includes using cover, popping out to shoot, playing dead, laying traps, sneaking up on guys, etc.

I'm not 100% sold on MGO yet.  I hope they do miraculously fix the frame rate somehow, but it's not bad so far.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: duckman2000 on April 26, 2008, 02:40:40 AM
It's pretty terrible alright. I guess once you get the hang of everything there might be a fun MP game there, but  honestly can't be bothered learning the ropes. I don't mind technical shooters, but this is just not intuitive, and at this point totally not fun to play.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: hyp on April 26, 2008, 03:58:41 AM
easy for you to say will!  i'm still downloading the fucking updates.  ZzZZzZZzzZzz

it's been at 25% for an hour already.  :dur
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 04:13:35 AM
Updating was the most fun part.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: demi on April 26, 2008, 04:15:59 AM
So are we looking at something as bad as The Darkness?
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 26, 2008, 04:23:45 AM
The Darkness > GTA4 > Metal Gear Online
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: pilonv1 on April 26, 2008, 04:43:59 AM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/ns8km.gif)

I'm sorry anything with tactics as distinguished mentally-challenged as this is too funny to be bad.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Vizzys on April 26, 2008, 04:47:38 AM
do a barrel roll :lol
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 26, 2008, 11:39:37 AM
This game has man cannons

 ???
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: hyp on April 26, 2008, 01:41:30 PM
Updating was the most fun part.

day 2 of the MGO beta:  STILL DOWNLOADING UPDATES (1.02 now!)

seriously wtf.  konami dropped the ball on this shit.  if the final game has the same update process (which i am assuming it will) well big fucking L-O-L.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 26, 2008, 01:51:08 PM
Updating was the most fun part.

day 2 of the MGO beta:  STILL DOWNLOADING UPDATES (1.02 now!)

seriously wtf.  konami dropped the ball on this shit.  if the final game has the same update process (which i am assuming it will) well big fucking L-O-L.

If they're smart, they'll..nevermind, they're not smart.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: hyp on April 26, 2008, 02:06:54 PM
omg the second update actually finished!  :o  i guess it was a small update compared to the 1.01 i had to do overnight. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 26, 2008, 02:42:39 PM
Updating was the most fun part.

day 2 of the MGO beta:  STILL DOWNLOADING UPDATES (1.02 now!)

seriously wtf.  konami dropped the ball on this shit.  if the final game has the same update process (which i am assuming it will) well big fucking L-O-L.

It makes you feel like you're getting more value out of your ISP
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 26, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
God I can't play this game, I'd sooner play The Outfit or something
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 26, 2008, 11:07:53 PM
God I can't play this game, I'd sooner play The Outfit or something

Looking at the blurry gun made your eyes hurt?
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Trent Dole on April 26, 2008, 11:51:16 PM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/ns8km.gif)

I'm sorry anything with tactics as distinguished mentally-challenged as this is too funny to be bad.
Is that MGO or one of the PSP games? :lol
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 27, 2008, 12:32:52 AM
God I can't play this game, I'd sooner play The Outfit or something

Looking at the blurry gun made your eyes hurt?

That and the fact that the levels are WORLD OF CUBES

I'm playing UT3 now instead, woo woo woo
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 27, 2008, 12:44:51 AM
Yeah, instead of fighting the camera (which, by the way, YOU STILL DO!), you spend most of your time fighting the controls.  In most games made after 2000, a simple press of a button will swap to a sidearm or throw a grenade.  But in the amazing world of Metal Gear Online, you must go through a Mass Effect-type inventory to select your weapon (although you may cycle through your ENTIRE INVENTORY by pressing R2 lightly - pressing too hard will be bring up the whole thing), then equip it and fire.  So to throw a grenade, you go through the inventory menu, select grenade, throw it, go through your inventory again, select your main firearm and engage.

If you die in the middle of this - don't worry, it's normal!

Still not as bad as Warhawk!
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: duckman2000 on April 27, 2008, 12:46:11 AM
Well, at least Warhawk is actually a fun time once you get the hang of it. This just makes me sad that Ghost Recon isn't as cool as it should be by now.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 27, 2008, 12:48:34 AM
Warhawk is a blast, but the weapon selection is MINDNUMBLINGLY STUPID.

Let's take a wicked fast, slick game, and make you manually pick weapons with the dpad. While standing still. At least if they'd made you use R3 and pivot with the right stick to pick, you could still dance around and not die.

I just use the pistol 90% of the time when I'm on foot. And if I don't play the game for a week I forget where all the weapons are in the square.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: duckman2000 on April 27, 2008, 12:57:24 AM
That's true, I remember griping quite a bit about that in the beta days. Can't say I agree that it's worse than here. At least in Warhawk, you don't actually have to go scrolling in menus. Makes you really appreciate when other developers get it right though. And really, there's a good reason as to why most games that focus on utilizing weapons have moved away from the walking armory model.

Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 27, 2008, 12:59:55 AM
Well, I'm never gonna play this piece of shit so maybe I'm wrong :lol

It just annoys me because Warhawk actually has a AAA game around it.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Rman on April 27, 2008, 01:54:03 AM
Well, I'm never gonna play this piece of shit so maybe I'm wrong :lol

It just annoys me because Warhawk actually has a AAA game around it.

You're not picking up MGS4?
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Rman on April 27, 2008, 01:59:17 AM
Does anyone have an extra beta code?  I pre-ordered but GameStop ran out of Saga Vol. 2 disc.  :'(
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: T234 on April 27, 2008, 02:16:28 AM
except it's not

most fun online game since quake 2
You better change that to Q3A, or else we're fightin
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 27, 2008, 02:57:19 AM
oh.... wow.

it's not absolutely horrific , but this game under a different name would be slaughtered.

and bebpo needs glasses - looks better than 99% of next gen games? not a chance.


you need lasic -

Quote
it's one of the worst looking games on PS3!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10933671&postcount=572
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 27, 2008, 03:03:26 AM
I don't think it looks that bad.  Kinda like Graw with less HDR. 
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: pilonv1 on April 27, 2008, 03:19:56 AM
It's not bad but it's not good either. The palette does it no favours. The lighting is great at times but shitty at others.

This would be a good game in 2004. Standards have changed. Seems like the fans of MGO have never played another online team based shooter.
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Post by: calcifer on April 27, 2008, 03:59:36 AM
except it's not

most fun online game since quake 2
You better change that to Q3A, or else we're fightin

zzzzz q3a are for fegs
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: calcifer on April 27, 2008, 04:02:06 AM
Seems like the fans of MGO have never played another online team based shooter.

i've been playing the biggest online team based shooter for like 8 years

but this is all about xfag not seeing quality even when it slaps its penis across their face... nothing new
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 27, 2008, 04:13:21 AM
MGO is shit.

Too bad Sfags can't smell shit even when it's laid smack on their nostrils.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: demi on April 27, 2008, 04:19:32 AM
MGO is shit.

Too bad Sfags can't smell shit even when it's laid smack on their nostrils.

They make avatars out of it instead :lol

(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5638/shittygamethatsfagscantuu7.jpg)
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: calcifer on April 27, 2008, 05:19:59 AM
MGO is shit.

Too bad Sfags can't smell shit even when it's laid smack on their nostrils.

did you come up with that Terminology yourself or..?  ::)
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 27, 2008, 05:30:25 AM
I still play UT2004 cuz it rocks

And more people play it than UT3  :'(
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: pancakesandsex on April 27, 2008, 06:08:48 AM
Visuals get the job done, Pace is a bit slower and more deliberate than something like team fortress of half life, i like it because its different, and with the right people, awesome fun.

As far as the controls go, you only have at most 3 weapons to cycle from, one primary, one secondary, and grenade, knife doesnt cycle. so its max 2 clicks to get to the toy you want to use.  Items are a bit different because you can pick up barrels and some other stuff.

I had a lot of fun using the grenades that let you spot people behind walls and stuff, then rushing in from behind and CQC followed by an auto aim kill while they are on the ground.

SOP is really neat, and when you get smart players actually using it, the game becomes a blast.

Controls took a bit of getting used too, but once you get the hang of switching on and off auto aim at the right times, it becomes a lot more fun.

I'm going to enjoy playing this, heres hoping its up for more than a year this time.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: pilonv1 on April 27, 2008, 10:04:09 AM
Now I'm used to the controls (two buttons to SHOOT? fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow jap developers :japcry), the Konami ID bullshit and the ridiculously slow pace it's actually pretty fun. Fun that I would spend money on it? Hell no, the gameplay design is so archaic for squad based shooters that I'd be livid had I paid for this. However for a free beta I'm enjoying it and there's the basics of a good squad shooter.

Graphics aren't anything amazing either, yes there's some nice lighting. Some of the animations are ok I guess but it's leagues behind something like R6 Vegas.

I'm not using auto-aim, should I be? And whats SOP?
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 27, 2008, 12:12:20 PM
Well, I'm never gonna play this piece of shit so maybe I'm wrong :lol

It just annoys me because Warhawk actually has a AAA game around it.

You're not picking up MGS4?

I forgot this wasn't a separate d/l

But no
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Grecco on April 27, 2008, 12:29:55 PM
Well, I'm never gonna play this piece of shit so maybe I'm wrong :lol

It just annoys me because Warhawk actually has a AAA game around it.

You're not picking up MGS4?

I forgot this wasn't a separate d/l

But no

MGO and MG4 are sepparate. You do get a MGO "Starter" pack with MG4 with some stages and characters but not the complete game.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Rman on April 27, 2008, 12:36:38 PM
How much will the full game cost.  I'm not buying it. I'm just curious.  I can't imagine anyone speeding more the 30 dollars on the game.  They should just do the same thing they did with MGS3 and pack it in.  But, Kojima had to fill up an entire blu-ray.
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Post by: duckman2000 on April 27, 2008, 12:43:21 PM
Well, I'm never gonna play this piece of shit so maybe I'm wrong :lol

It just annoys me because Warhawk actually has a AAA game around it.

You're not picking up MGS4?

I forgot this wasn't a separate d/l

But no

MGO and MG4 are sepparate. You do get a MGO "Starter" pack with MG4 with some stages and characters but not the complete game.

Hahaha really? This is supposed to be a standalone game? Oh my.  :lol
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: T234 on April 27, 2008, 12:52:43 PM
Quote
zzzzz q3a are for fegs

holy shit, i agree with calcifer on something.

Q3A was awful imo, coming off the back of UT to Q3A was like being teabagged by a rhino.

HELL NAW TO THE BOTH OF YAS
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: T234 on April 27, 2008, 01:12:22 PM
WEAPON BALANCE > SKAARJ



Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Grecco on April 27, 2008, 06:48:01 PM
Not to troll or anything but if Halo3 or COD4 had online starter packs and charged seperately for the full online game people would be fucking up in arms. I dont get why its so accepted with MGS4
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Post by: duckman2000 on April 27, 2008, 07:05:25 PM
Well, both COD4 and Halo 3 come with brutally short single player campaigns, so there might be something to that. No one really complains though, because no one ever seriously believed that SP would be a high priority for Bungie. Sort of like how no one is really looking forward to MGO. People play it because it's Metal Gear, even if it happens to emphasize the weakest aspect of Metal Gear.

That said, I really didn't think this would be a standalone title.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: hyp on April 27, 2008, 08:56:46 PM
i finally got some decent play time with the game and i'm pretty surprised at how much i like it.  but the framerate/lag issues are a deal breaker for me.  graphically, it looks good -- but it's the kojima art style at work.  technically, there are much much better looking games.  glad this shit was free to try.
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Post by: Shuri on April 27, 2008, 10:32:52 PM
wtf, i thought the entire game was going to be included with mgs4  ???
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Rman on April 27, 2008, 11:11:14 PM
According to Wikipedia, MGO is part of MGS4.  I know wikipedia is not the word of god, but where did you guys hear it was a separate package?  I know it was supposed to be separate game originally.
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Post by: duckman2000 on April 27, 2008, 11:14:24 PM
You'd think it'd at least be included in the $99 Limited Edition, yeah?
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 27, 2008, 11:42:13 PM
there's a starter pack with MGS4. Then you have to buy extra shit (I think).
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Rman on April 27, 2008, 11:55:05 PM
LOL.

More microtransaction rapage.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 28, 2008, 12:07:10 AM
last I read this is the "full version," then you have to pay for map packs from here on out.   hopefully the rape won't be too hard.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 28, 2008, 12:52:09 AM
MGS4: Game of the Forever Rolling Thunder Awesomesauce
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: duckman2000 on April 28, 2008, 12:59:41 AM
I'm sure it will be all that to MGS fans. Me, I just plain don't get the series, never have. I dislike the story, characters and most of all the direction. I adore the presentation, and I can respect that MGS3 is, in its own way, probably a bit of a masterpiece. But I don't get it. The story in MGS3 felt poorly paced, and very convoluted as to simulate depth and emotion. And I like a good story in a game. Maybe it's just a cultural barrier.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: calcifer on April 28, 2008, 04:49:46 AM
holy shit you can play as snake now!! and the robot

octocamo + play dead
robot zaps
you cut them

:bow :bow
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta i
Post by: bork on April 28, 2008, 07:33:47 AM
pretty much my feelings exactly.

But i do feel the series is some massive party that i'm missing out on. MGS3 baffled me , but i think Subsistance's camera change would possibly fix one of my main gripes so i keep meaning to revisit the game.

And yes, the story seems to be just one over complicated web of crazy.

I've played some more MGS:O - it's still not clicking and i'm pretty much resigned to the point that you have to really love MGS and have hardly played any other tactical shooter. Hmm... maybe that's harsh, but darn, the outfit is better than this.


The best Metal Gear games are the original Solid and the Gameboy Color Solid (Ghost Babel), which has the best level design of any of the Metal Gear games.  The stories are all nonsensical malarky.  Kojima's best scenario is still Snatcher  (I haven't played Policenauts though).

I had some fun with MGS3 Subsistence's online when it first came out, but that was the J-version back in december 2005.  Things have changed and this new game largely feels the same.  The controls just aren't responsive enough for an online versus game.  If they want to do MGO real justice, they need to move away from the single player set up ENTIRELY and make something completely different.
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 28, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
I think Willco sucks at video games.

I picked up the controls and placed in the top three in the first four rounds of MGO I played.

The only annoying thing to me really is auto aim. Fuck that shit. Turn it the fuck off.
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Post by: Raban on April 28, 2008, 10:54:44 AM
pretty much my feelings exactly.

But i do feel the series is some massive party that i'm missing out on. MGS3 baffled me , but i think Subsistance's camera change would possibly fix one of my main gripes so i keep meaning to revisit the game.

And yes, the story seems to be just one over complicated web of crazy.

I've played some more MGS:O - it's still not clicking and i'm pretty much resigned to the point that you have to really love MGS and have hardly played any other tactical shooter. Hmm... maybe that's harsh, but darn, the outfit is better than this.


The best Metal Gear games are the original Solid and the Gameboy Color Solid (Ghost Babel), which has the best level design of any of the Metal Gear games.  The stories are all nonsensical malarky.  Kojima's best scenario is still Snatcher  (I haven't played Policenauts though).

Marry me.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: Bloodwake on April 28, 2008, 03:41:41 PM
Oh yeah:

I've had more fun with MGO so far than Halo 3.

Not exaggerating. This comes from a fan of Halo 3. Love the fucking game to death online.
Title: Re: Forget HD resolutions and flame warz - let's talk about how awful MGO Beta is!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 28, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
You're insane.  MGO is about as fun as playing with poop.
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Post by: hyp on April 28, 2008, 04:36:37 PM
CQC is fucking ASS.  seriously, it's clunky piece of shit.  the gunplay is pretty satisfying though.
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Post by: brawndolicious on April 28, 2008, 05:19:54 PM
I was under the impression that they completely overhauled the controls..

if not, THIS is ruining gaming.  and the world.  Wii is just making people sit down.