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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on April 30, 2008, 04:00:49 PM

Title: Game
Post by: Borys on April 30, 2008, 04:00:49 PM
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Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: demi on April 30, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
>_>
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: duckman2000 on April 30, 2008, 04:05:07 PM
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Amazing graphics? Check.

what
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Robo on April 30, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
there's no desert in gta4.   ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Enl on April 30, 2008, 04:08:59 PM
Major splooging for fourth temple boss fight incoming! Everyone watch out! 
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Enl on April 30, 2008, 04:12:28 PM
DON'T SPOIL ME ANYTHING FUCKS

Link dies.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 30, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
you will cum at the mid-boss and boss fights
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: MCD on April 30, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
only thing good is the music there (OOT nostalgia total), the rest? not so much, besides the boss there of course. (cool but easy like the rest)

the place was barren, where are the women :maf
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Crushed on April 30, 2008, 05:03:00 PM
PS: when you think you're slowing down from a glitch, IT'S NOT A GLITCH.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2008, 05:03:46 PM
i went ape shit over the first teaser trailer of this game, spent hours anticipating it, was pissed when it was delayed...

...and still haven't played it. the nthing in me is dead. but i know once i touch the game i'll be in heaven. at least with the superior gamecube version
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on April 30, 2008, 05:16:48 PM
Great music? Lake Hylia, sure. But the the desert? It's a bastardized version of the Gerudo Valley theme from OoT.  :-X
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 05:24:31 PM
OoT fanbois, smh
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on April 30, 2008, 05:25:28 PM
What, just talking about the music, homey! :punch

The level itself (well the 4th temple) is orgasmic, however.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: MCD on April 30, 2008, 05:26:20 PM
nostalgia  :-\
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 05:30:05 PM
Everything after Lake Hylia leading up to the City in the Sky is fucking awesome.

Twilight Princess, the most underappreciated Zelda ever :bow
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: demi on April 30, 2008, 05:35:10 PM

Majora's Mask, the most underappreciated Zelda ever :bow

:bow
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 30, 2008, 05:39:22 PM
I remember the Gerudo area being sort of ugly (relative to the rest of the game), maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on April 30, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!

I thought nothing would beat Lake Hylia's graphics, atmosphere, music and feeling in Twilight Princess. It was a perfect "level", so life-like, so soothing...

ENTER GERUDO DESERT

God... D A M N!

I've seen some crazy good looking deserts in games. I loved KOTOR's desert, Fallout's desert, God of War desert with crazy Sirens, Morrowind's deserts with amazing desertstorms but NONE of it comes close to Zelda's Gerudo Desert.

Amazing graphics? Check.
Amazing blur in the distance? Check.
*AMAZING* draw distance? Check. (you can even see Lake Hylia from there! the waterfall and the Island of Treasures!)
Amazing music? Check.
Fuck-ton stuff to do? Check.
WILD BOARS TO BE MOUNTED? Check.
Fuck-ton hidden Poe's all around the map? Check.
Flying crazy helicopter thingys that you can hook on and glide over the amazingly good looking environment? Check.

Holy shit this is it.

THIS IS IT.

This is THE Twilight Princess moment for me. Lake Hylia falls to second place.

And yeah, it's better than Gerudo Valley from OoT.

Without Screenshots, this thread is worthless
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: bengraven on April 30, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
I still think Morrowind's "deserts" were better.

Screen clogging blight storms motherfucker...
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 07:13:09 PM

Majora's Mask, the most underappreciated Zelda ever :bow

:bow

Not here at least :bow :bow2

Majora's is my favorite, with Twilight Princess following.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Darunia on April 30, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
i only like classic zelda's, i'm conservative that way. MM was wacky, WW had the artstyle, lacked the gameplay

OoT, TP, lttp ftw

and Minish Cap
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 07:24:34 PM
Link to the Past is more dated an boring than Ocarina is.

Play the superior 2D Zeldas: Oracle games and Minish Cap :bow
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 30, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
Minish Cap blows. Let's stick to MM.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on April 30, 2008, 07:32:03 PM
i only like classic zelda's, i'm conservative that way. MM was wacky, WW had the artstyle, lacked the gameplay

OoT, TP, lttp ftw

and Minish Cap

:bow Though I'd probably take the Oracles of MC (even tho MC had nicer grafix).
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: drew on April 30, 2008, 07:34:37 PM
Link to the Past is more dated an boring than Ocarina is.

Play the superior 2D Zeldas: Oracle games and Minish Cap :bow

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/JoeMolotov/smh.gif)

Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Darunia on April 30, 2008, 07:37:32 PM
Link to the Past is more dated an boring than Ocarina is

how the hell is alttp dated

I played it for the first time when it was ported to gba (not long ago) and it was one of the best zelda's I've played til then. It had the best overworld of the 2D Zeldas, some seriously awesome dungeons, a bit of difficulty still... I don't see what's dated about it

OoT... there I'm not debating you (at least in the graphical department)
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Robo on April 30, 2008, 08:53:20 PM
LTTP works as sort of a stepping stone to the portable Zeldas.  Not to say it isn't a fine game, but Link's Awakening and both Oracle games present a sharp enhancement of essentially the same material with more unique items, more abilities, much better puzzle design, and better dungeons.  LTTP is absolutely playable, but a bit archaic in comparison.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 30, 2008, 08:58:56 PM
I don't believe any Zelda has more items than LttP. Even if you don't count two rods or whatever as unique.

LttP fucking rules.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Bildi on April 30, 2008, 09:00:06 PM
I didn't like the desert so much - it was pretty barren and because I'm the sort who has to cover every square inch to make sure I don't miss something, I wandered around for a fair while.

Once I got past the sandy part of the desert I liked it a lot more, and the dungeon is good.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
Minish Cap blows. Let's stick to MM.

What about Minish Cap blows?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Beezy on April 30, 2008, 09:29:17 PM
I liked TP too. I own and beat the GC version. I've been thinking about buying the Wii version as an excuse to play through it again. :(
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: demi on April 30, 2008, 09:30:39 PM
Minish Cap blows. Let's stick to MM.

What about Minish Cap blows?

Everything
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Laramie on April 30, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
Link to the Past is more dated an boring than Ocarina is.

Play the superior 2D Zeldas: Oracle games and Minish Cap :bow

You're shitting me.  You missed the best 2D Zelda and the best Zelda of all time.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
Erm, I have it.  Both versions.  It's an incredible game, in 1993.  It's just dated now, surpassed by better 2D Zelda games with more creativity.

Demi, once and a while you're gonna have to explain yourself, you know nig?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Bildi on April 30, 2008, 11:36:03 PM
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link is the best 2D Zelda.  I'm deadly serious.

It's been nice knowing you all.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 30, 2008, 11:38:03 PM
Zelda II is so rad, I just wish I was a competent enough gamer to beat it. :(
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Yeti on May 01, 2008, 12:12:48 AM
I thought the music in Twilight Princess was largely forgettable.  :-\ The only music I can recall off the top of my head is the part where

spoiler (click to show/hide)
midna is sick and dying and you have to get to Zelda.
[close]

And I thought the desert was pretty boring as the environments went.  :lol
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Laramie on May 01, 2008, 12:48:17 AM
Erm, I have it.  Both versions.  It's an incredible game, in 1993.  It's just dated now, surpassed by better 2D Zelda games with more creativity.

Demi, once and a while you're gonna have to explain yourself, you know nig?

Like what?  Fucking mole gloves and a talking hat?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Bildi on May 01, 2008, 02:03:52 AM
I thought the music in Twilight Princess was largely forgettable.  :-\ The only music I can recall off the top of my head is the part where

spoiler (click to show/hide)
midna is sick and dying and you have to get to Zelda.
[close]

And I thought the desert was pretty boring as the environments went.  :lol

I did think Midna's theme was friggin' great, and also the nice music after you defeat a boss and the room is all calm.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: treythemovie on May 01, 2008, 05:04:40 AM
[youtube=425,350]<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Os4urDdw5M0&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Os4urDdw5M0&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>[/youtube]

[youtube=425,350]<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1QqdlXtTIjE&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1QqdlXtTIjE&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>[/youtube]

 :D
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 01, 2008, 09:07:01 AM
Erm, I have it.  Both versions.  It's an incredible game, in 1993.  It's just dated now, surpassed by better 2D Zelda games with more creativity.

Demi, once and a while you're gonna have to explain yourself, you know nig?

Like what?  Fucking mole gloves and a talking hat?

Mole Mitts were cool, yeah.  Gust Jar was pretty cool too.  And plus the dungeons were tons better in Minish Cap, at least better than the first like 5 LttP dungeons.

Stop living in the past mang.  Where Prole, I need him to fight with me on this.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Bildi on May 01, 2008, 09:24:19 AM
Meeting Midna for the first time was so kick ass.  And that damn awesome theme music.

:bow :bow :bow[youtube=425,350]<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/U-NNl7u_gfg&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/U-NNl7u_gfg&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>[/youtube] :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Kestastrophe on May 01, 2008, 09:34:45 AM
Gerudo desert was great, but I still prefer Dragon Roost cavern (Wind Waker) with the thermal and particle effects.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Laramie on May 01, 2008, 12:14:42 PM
Erm, I have it.  Both versions.  It's an incredible game, in 1993.  It's just dated now, surpassed by better 2D Zelda games with more creativity.

Demi, once and a while you're gonna have to explain yourself, you know nig?

Like what?  Fucking mole gloves and a talking hat?

Mole Mitts were cool, yeah.  Gust Jar was pretty cool too.  And plus the dungeons were tons better in Minish Cap, at least better than the first like 5 LttP dungeons.

Stop living in the past mang.  Where Prole, I need him to fight with me on this.

There were like 4 dungeons compared to the robust 8 of Link's Awakening.  I'm not living in the past I just think Link's Awakening is much better than Minish Cap.

And I don't even like LTTP that much.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 01, 2008, 12:18:37 PM
LA had a way more intuitive and clever underworld too. MC's overworld was just a  bunch of Tetris-piece segments separated by rocks you had to roll into holes when you linearly got to the other side.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on May 01, 2008, 06:28:41 PM
LttP gets too much hate. I can totally understand why people would prefer the overworlds of LA or the Oracle games, but other than that, and story (if you're into that sort of thing), LttP does a better job at everything else. Music, items, and even dungeons to a degree (I breezed through the first 3 in LA like it was nothing).
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 08, 2008, 08:28:52 AM
Snowpeak Ruins was my favorite dungeon in the entire game, enjoy.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Grecco on May 08, 2008, 10:02:25 AM
Im embarrased to say i never finished Twilight Princess. Prolly will have to over the summer.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 11:00:59 AM
Yeah, Twilight Princess is very, very underrated. The latter half of the game is just fucking incredible and the temple design is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 10, 2008, 01:55:26 PM
What was the ice mid boss? I forget.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: drew on May 10, 2008, 03:02:20 PM
Snowpeak was the only temple I used a guide to get through.  Fucking fetch quests and block puzzles.

The final boss made up for it, though.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: FancyFeast on May 10, 2008, 05:55:30 PM
you will cum at the mid-boss and boss fights

lol
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 11, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
You're crazy.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Darunia on May 11, 2008, 04:53:41 PM
I found all the bugs since they were pretty easy to spot, but the poe things... no thanks
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: crimsondynamics on June 11, 2008, 08:19:35 AM
Borys, what were your reasons behind purchasing a Wii?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Third on June 11, 2008, 08:57:44 AM
I had to push myself to play this turd, and I'm a huge Zelda fan.

The game gets so tedious eventually, never finished it. The only Zelda I haven't finished.

Next Zelda doesn't need to be an OOT clone. Do something exciting with this franshise, Nintendo.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2008, 10:18:18 AM
I had to push myself to play this turd, and I'm a huge Zelda fan.

The game gets so tedious eventually, never finished it. The only Zelda I haven't finished.

Next Zelda doesn't need to be an OOT clone. Do something exciting with this franshise, Nintendo.

Pretty much. I quit at the Sky Dungeon because it was just...ugh.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: duckman2000 on June 11, 2008, 10:22:49 AM
I had to push myself to play this turd, and I'm a huge Zelda fan.

The game gets so tedious eventually, never finished it. The only Zelda I haven't finished.

But what about the children? That kid that wants to be just like me, how inspiring! Let me risk my life to save these annoying children, now that's some great motivation. As if I didn't have enough needy kids around IRL.

Seriously, this game is lame. And lacking the distinct visual presentation that TWW had, it's also a whole lot less attractive.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 11, 2008, 11:38:44 AM
No, you are lame.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: duckman2000 on June 11, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: tiesto on June 11, 2008, 04:42:18 PM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.


Hate on Zelda:TP (which I'd argue is the best 3D Zelda) and MGS, is there any game you do like aside from Haze?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: duckman2000 on June 11, 2008, 04:49:03 PM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.


Hate on Zelda:TP (which I'd argue is the best 3D Zelda) and MGS, is there any game you do like aside from Haze?

I don't like Haze. Update your records and harvest some new material.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2008, 04:57:21 PM
I felt the sky dungeon was the best dungeon in TP but I'm partial to Arbiters Grounds. It really was my favorite Zelda dungeon. It actually felt like a dungeon! And the weapon you got in that dungeon was fucking genius. The boss fight was so fucking inventive too, although it was a bit easy...

TP does a lot right. The dungeons in the game are some of the best the series has to offer. Each dungeon gets better than the last. The wii controls were excellent and intuitive for the most part, aside from the move Shield Bash which had you thrust the nunchaku forward. It worked for me maybe 25% of the time, total. I felt the story in the first half of the game was Zelda at its best. I really enjoyed the wolf sections, and the game was consistently varied throughout; the Panzer Dragoon-esque part, the wolf puzzles, the showdown duel at the bridge, finding the children. The variety was so fucking excellent and I was positive I was playing the best Zelda ever, because that's what I feel the first half is, especially as the slowly uncover the game's world.

On top of this, the first half of TP was the first time I loved a Zelda story. Link's facial expressions made him alive more than he ever was in TP, and Midna...Midna is the fucking shit. Zant easily has the potential to be the best Zelda villain. The first half of Tp's story was far more interesting than typical regurgitated "we have to go to these three dungeons to get this item for such and such blah blah" and I had an actual incentive to help Midna out because I liked her so much. The characters like the kids were cool too.

Then the second half started and it became typical Zelda "we have to go to these dungeons to get this item." The dungeons get better and better but everything else started to get disappointing.

Zant becomes a laughing stock so Nintendo could shoehorn Ganon in the game, when Zant was far superior. I hated Zant, and he was a much better villian than Ganon EVER was and he becomes a goddamn clown.

The characterization the game hinted at earlier, like Link's relationship with that girl, and the characterization of Collin's father and other characters that the game hinted at being interesting characters early in the game was ignored and dampened. Link becomes once again, a shallow character and lacking the energy and tenacity he had early on. Midna remains the best character in the game throughout. In fact, she's the best Zelda character period.

The wolf form becomes an afterthought, aside from maybe 3 times in a few random moments in the second half's dungeons.  The weapons and items you get in the dungeons in the later half, like the spinner, are used only in that dungeon for 5 minutes and then dropped later on. It didn't really feel like I had to use them later in the game more so than usual in a Zelda which sucked.

Since the overworld was entirely open now, it gave the game a lack of fulfillment. I loved unlocking each part of the world in TP as it gave me more incentive to explore. Once that was done, I started to realize just how shallow the game's world was. There wasn't much to do in TP, and most of the sidequests were derivative fetch quests. The game didn't feel rewarding or exploration like games such as Link's Awakening or Ocarina. The best thing about TP though, was fishing. Holy shit most relaxing mini game of all time, especially on the wii. THe fishing mini game on TP wii was the fucking shit, and really gave me a boner for a potential fishing game on the wii.

The difficulty was also pretty hilarious. I remember the game being far more difficult earlier on because some enemies would take off 3 hearts if they hit you and it felt more difficult. The later game was a piece of cake, although the puzzles rocked.

TP was a really good game, but the second half lessened its quality, I think. That said, the first half is, in my opinion, potentially the best Zelda has to offer period.

I'd give it an 8.5
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2008, 05:07:22 PM
oh and the OoT fan service was ridiculous
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on June 11, 2008, 05:09:30 PM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.


TP disappointed me a tad, but dude, you like stuff like Ratchet, the definition of mediocrity. Wtf?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: demi on June 11, 2008, 05:09:51 PM
shit game
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on June 11, 2008, 05:17:08 PM
oh and the OoT fan service was ridiculous

If they had a bit more, it probably might have saved the game.

:bow Best 3D Zelda :bow2
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2008, 05:21:27 PM
hahahah

the more i think about it, i agree with you. I haven't played OoT in years and TP really gave me the itch to pop it in, but I don't have my n64 anymore. :(
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: MCD on June 11, 2008, 05:24:03 PM
emulator.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Third on June 11, 2008, 05:25:30 PM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.


TP disappointed me a tad, but dude, you like stuff like Ratchet, the definition of mediocrity. Wtf?

 :bow Ratchet
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on June 11, 2008, 05:26:25 PM
hahahah

the more i think about it, i agree with you. I haven't played OoT in years and TP really gave me the itch to pop it in, but I don't have my n64 anymore. :(

Check out the collector's edition. Should be dirt cheap somewhere by now.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2008, 06:09:11 PM
I had to push myself to play this turd, and I'm a huge Zelda fan.

The game gets so tedious eventually, never finished it. The only Zelda I haven't finished.

Next Zelda doesn't need to be an OOT clone. Do something exciting with this franshise, Nintendo.

Pretty much. I quit at the Sky Dungeon because it was just...ugh.

Wow, best dungeon in the entire game.

You not only suck for buying iPhone and a PS3 at launch but for quitting TP at City in the Sky, so close to the end of the game.

I didn't buy it at launch. Borys, you're turning into a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2008, 06:09:18 PM
I didn't say I hated the second half. In fact, as I said, the dungeons in that part of the game are fucking amazing. But it did little to sake the ground of the typical Zelda structure and it felt like such a fucking rehash. I just think Zelda is in need of a revamp, is all
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Oblivion on June 11, 2008, 06:16:11 PM
Oh, also...

I had to push myself to play this turd, and I'm a huge Zelda fan.

The game gets so tedious eventually, never finished it. The only Zelda I haven't finished.

Next Zelda doesn't need to be an OOT clone. Do something exciting with this franshise, Nintendo.

Pretty much. I quit at the Sky Dungeon because it was just...ugh.

That's one of the best dungeons in the game and Zelda, period. What the hell? People stop playing these games at the most inappropriate times., I swear Reminds me of when someone said they quit playing Ocarina AFTER Jabu Jabu's Belly.  ??? :lol
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2008, 06:52:48 PM
Ok it doesn't matter.

Finish the goddamn Zelda game - you are close to the end.

I would really love to discuss why I stopped then so you could understand me, but you've made it painfully clear:

Quote
Hey Raban, did you get the MacBook Air finally? I heard it's a hot item!

That you have turned into a rabid idiot. Be proud, son. In my opinion, The Temple of Time was the best dungeon in that game. And I got quite a ways through the Sky Dungeon before ultimately resigning.
Not only do you refuse to read more than two or three words of any of my posts, but you've devolved yourself into the troll-bot most every poster here seems to be. I'd love to try and clear my name, but what would it be worth since you'd either ignore it and flame me or do the ever-so-popular tl;dr.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: evilromero on June 12, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
A lot of the enjoyment with TP is how you approach the game's aesthetic. It definitely derives much of its design schematics from OoT but still provides a provocative experience. With Gerudo Desert I did feel it was a little monotonous mainly at the expense of not getting the warthog until you approach the camp. I'm pretty used to Nintendo games including the massive scope of the environments you mentioned- Mario Sunshine let players see far-off levels with full animation and detail.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: evilromero on June 12, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
I definitely agree that TP includes the best set of dungeons of any Zelda game. And the game world is better realized than OoT although I still prefer fishing in OoT. The minor drawbacks include little nitpicky things like having to sit through a small cut-scene every time Link picks up a rupee with each new session. Also, it's time they abandon the light/dark world design.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Raban on June 12, 2008, 10:09:15 AM
You know calling me names TWICE and locking your own thread about your own ownage doesn't help you Raban.

Yea, I think I'm more of a "rabid, fucking idiot" that the guy that bought iPhone and PS3 for $1000+.

How long are you gonna hang around that I bought an iPhone and PS3?

I've been insulting you because think for a single solitary second how absurd that is. You're prejudging everything a person says because they bought something.

My own ownage? I ignored that thread after the first few replies! When it drifted on to the second page and people refused to post anything worth caring about, I locked it.

You're speaking like a child, you're acting like a child, how can I not insult you?

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Keep up the "high standards" of EB posting.

And there you go again, with your wild presumptions. When did I ever say I was the model of a higher standard of posting?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2008, 02:32:10 PM
And the game world is better realized than OoT although I still prefer fishing in OoT.

how so? o_O
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2008, 02:38:29 PM
TP, in my eyes, is OoT pushed to another level. It has better graphics, better dungeons, better bosses etc. Everything in TP kinda was in OoT already but here it is just SO MUCH better.

I don't know if I would like Nintendo to make the next Zelda (on a next-gen Nintendo console) "just" TP pushed to another level.

No, I think that would be far too predictable, far too boring.

TP is the perfect fare-well to OoT style of Zelda games.

I am glad I didn't finish it yet, I am glad still some surprises await me.

I don't think TP's bosses are better than OoT's. TP doesn't even have dark Link. or the electricity thing in Jabu Jabu's belly. The final fight against Ganon is far more memorable, and in OoT you use old abilities just as much as new ones. And then there's the fire temple which was far better than TP's if only for the muslim chants. And in OoT the time travel thing isn't a gimmick in the second half like it is in TP's. The story also feels more epic in scale.

TP is good no doubt but it's not better than OoT in any regard except maybe dungeons.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2008, 02:40:27 PM
and THE GRAVEYARD in OoT fuck that game was so memorable

Comparing TP to OoT is like comparing Raiders of the Lost Ark to Temple of Doom. One has the meat, one is the TIMELESS CLASSIC and the other is just a really good piece of entertainment.

I mean the world exploration in TP sucks balls!
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: CurseoftheGods on June 12, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Himuro is right on the monies.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 01:12:48 PM
Oh yeah, and another thing... the music in this game really sucks.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 01:17:49 PM
I just never got the feel for fishing in TP. Wildly pulling my Wiimote up in the air didn't have the desired effect and was nowhere near as accurate or responsive as it was in OoT. Although the fishing boat area was fucking beautiful in every way. One of the most relaxing moments in the game.

And thinking about it I kind of agree with your point on OoT having the better overworld. I would have expected TP to have far more detail throughout- trees, rivers, grass, etc.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: tiesto on June 14, 2008, 01:06:46 AM
No, you are lame.

Perhaps, but evidently not quite lame enough to suffer through, much less enjoy, this poopsack of a game.


Hate on Zelda:TP (which I'd argue is the best 3D Zelda) and MGS, is there any game you do like aside from Haze?

I don't like Haze. Update your records and harvest some new material.


Sorry, I can't keep up with who likes what around here sometimes... but seriously, I have yet to see you praise a game on here, what do you play?
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Tundra on June 15, 2008, 05:25:23 AM
I felt the sky dungeon was the best dungeon in TP but I'm partial to Arbiters Grounds. It really was my favorite Zelda dungeon. It actually felt like a dungeon! And the weapon you got in that dungeon was fucking genius. The boss fight was so fucking inventive too, although it was a bit easy...

TP does a lot right. The dungeons in the game are some of the best the series has to offer. Each dungeon gets better than the last. The wii controls were excellent and intuitive for the most part, aside from the move Shield Bash which had you thrust the nunchaku forward. It worked for me maybe 25% of the time, total. I felt the story in the first half of the game was Zelda at its best. I really enjoyed the wolf sections, and the game was consistently varied throughout; the Panzer Dragoon-esque part, the wolf puzzles, the showdown duel at the bridge, finding the children. The variety was so fucking excellent and I was positive I was playing the best Zelda ever, because that's what I feel the first half is, especially as the slowly uncover the game's world.

On top of this, the first half of TP was the first time I loved a Zelda story. Link's facial expressions made him alive more than he ever was in TP, and Midna...Midna is the fucking shit. Zant easily has the potential to be the best Zelda villain. The first half of Tp's story was far more interesting than typical regurgitated "we have to go to these three dungeons to get this item for such and such blah blah" and I had an actual incentive to help Midna out because I liked her so much. The characters like the kids were cool too.

Then the second half started and it became typical Zelda "we have to go to these dungeons to get this item." The dungeons get better and better but everything else started to get disappointing.

Zant becomes a laughing stock so Nintendo could shoehorn Ganon in the game, when Zant was far superior. I hated Zant, and he was a much better villian than Ganon EVER was and he becomes a goddamn clown.

The characterization the game hinted at earlier, like Link's relationship with that girl, and the characterization of Collin's father and other characters that the game hinted at being interesting characters early in the game was ignored and dampened. Link becomes once again, a shallow character and lacking the energy and tenacity he had early on. Midna remains the best character in the game throughout. In fact, she's the best Zelda character period.

The wolf form becomes an afterthought, aside from maybe 3 times in a few random moments in the second half's dungeons.  The weapons and items you get in the dungeons in the later half, like the spinner, are used only in that dungeon for 5 minutes and then dropped later on. It didn't really feel like I had to use them later in the game more so than usual in a Zelda which sucked.

Since the overworld was entirely open now, it gave the game a lack of fulfillment. I loved unlocking each part of the world in TP as it gave me more incentive to explore. Once that was done, I started to realize just how shallow the game's world was. There wasn't much to do in TP, and most of the sidequests were derivative fetch quests. The game didn't feel rewarding or exploration like games such as Link's Awakening or Ocarina. The best thing about TP though, was fishing. Holy shit most relaxing mini game of all time, especially on the wii. THe fishing mini game on TP wii was the fucking shit, and really gave me a boner for a potential fishing game on the wii.

The difficulty was also pretty hilarious. I remember the game being far more difficult earlier on because some enemies would take off 3 hearts if they hit you and it felt more difficult. The later game was a piece of cake, although the puzzles rocked.

TP was a really good game, but the second half lessened its quality, I think. That said, the first half is, in my opinion, potentially the best Zelda has to offer period.

I'd give it an 8.5


Completely what i am thinking about Zelda:TP myself. Almost every single line of that post.

Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 15, 2008, 12:05:28 PM
Yup.  If only it wasn't so easy.
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Darunia on June 15, 2008, 12:22:35 PM
hey borys, have you played minish cap
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 15, 2008, 02:51:56 PM
I will get back to playing this game.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Crushed on June 15, 2008, 02:56:55 PM
MM > WW > TP > OoT

That's the order, and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: demi on June 15, 2008, 02:59:42 PM
Borys left out Majora's Mask because there is no argument - it is #1 :bow
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2008, 03:57:44 PM
Gamerankings disagrees. Sorry, Borys.  :'(
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2008, 04:11:03 PM
My rankings of the 3d zeldas.

OoT>TP>MM>WW.

Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Darunia on June 15, 2008, 05:24:03 PM
My rankings of the 3d zeldas.

OoT>TP>MM>WW.



Almost mine, only WW and MM are reversed
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Crushed on June 15, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
My rankings of the 3d zeldas.

OoT>TP>MM>WW.



Almost mine, only WW and MM are reversed

Jesus Christ, it's like you descended into the icy pit of Cocytus itself just to create a statement so incredibly wrong that it defies all truth in creation.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Vizzys on June 15, 2008, 05:27:04 PM
even as a kid I knew OoT sucked
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 15, 2008, 05:46:42 PM
All 3d Zeldas suck.

Minish Cap > all.

Keep 'em 2d I say  :(. 
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 15, 2008, 06:01:34 PM
the first half of tp was fucking awful, what the fuck you polacks
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: The Sceneman on June 15, 2008, 06:09:07 PM
I can never understand how these games are so highly regarded, they are all absolute fucking garbage
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Darunia on June 15, 2008, 06:27:30 PM
My rankings of the 3d zeldas.

OoT>TP>MM>WW.



Almost mine, only WW and MM are reversed

Jesus Christ, it's like you descended into the icy pit of Cocytus itself just to create a statement so incredibly wrong that it defies all truth in creation.

I aim to please

MM... I don't really like MM. Maybe I should replay it sometime to see if my views have changed
Title: Re: Holy SHIT @ Gerudo Desert
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2008, 07:03:20 PM
I'm sorry, but TP > WW > OOT is just wrong. And I *love* TP and WW.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2008, 07:03:57 PM
PS: LA >>>>>>> All Zelda's (that I played at least)

Yes
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: bachikarn on June 15, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
MM > all
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2008, 07:10:09 PM
LA is so good that even my stepdad finished it, and he doesnt play videogames at all. Well he did play SMB with me as a kid but thats different. We were on holiday and I gave him my GB after I finished LA and he finished it too.

See back in the day casual soccer dads played real games and not this Wii Fit shit.

yeah my dad and i played sonic 1 and 2 as a kid all the time after he stopped playing :( aside from the occasional mortal kombat or street fighter. which i always owned him at.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: evilromero on June 15, 2008, 08:28:49 PM
I would probably enjoy OoT more if it had the controls of TP Wii. I am looking forward to a Zelda game that changes up the dark/light gameplay design and introduces a more fluid system of progression.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
even as a kid I knew OoT sucked

Even before I joined EB I knew Viz sucked.

As did his mother.

Ownzed.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2008, 09:03:40 PM
My rankings of the 3d zeldas.

OoT>TP>MM>WW.



Almost mine, only WW and MM are reversed

Jesus Christ, it's like you descended into the icy pit of Cocytus itself just to create a statement so incredibly wrong that it defies all truth in creation.

I know MM has become something of a messageboard darling within the past few years (months?), but realistically, it's a very difficult Zelda to get into (and I don't mean 'difficult' in the good sense). I tried pretty damn hard to like it, too.
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Vizzys on June 15, 2008, 09:04:03 PM
i have been pwned
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: demi on June 15, 2008, 10:19:32 PM
I tried pretty damn hard to like it, too.

No, you didn't. Gamerankings just wasnt high enough for you to parade it  :'(
Title: Re: Twilight Princess > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time
Post by: Raban on June 16, 2008, 10:45:15 PM
OOT > WW > Zelda CD-I > TP

Really Borys. I couldnt even continue playing Zelda TP for some reason. The reason could be it looked like poo on my big telly. The other reason is that the Twilight section bored me to tears and were annoying as hell. Also fucking Medina's voice. Argh. Nintendo -_-

PS: LA >>>>>>> All Zelda's (that I played at least)

Thank YOU fucking LORD. This man is all that is right with the world.