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Title: Breaking News:
Post by: whiteACID on November 08, 2006, 12:56:26 PM
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down, sources tell CNN.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 08, 2006, 01:01:25 PM
Bush is reaching out!
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: TVC15 on November 08, 2006, 01:15:12 PM
Fuck yes!
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Cheebs on November 08, 2006, 01:24:51 PM
Bush is reaching out!
More like he is scared of the new congress.  :lol
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 08, 2006, 01:25:34 PM
Congress am pissed lol
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 08, 2006, 01:28:30 PM
He's the President - he doesn't have to be scared of anything, especially this so-called "new" government (and really, is a Democrat controlled House and possibly Senate going to alter our lives for the better so drastically?).  He's just trying not to look like an asshole by gridlocking, and reaching out.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 08, 2006, 01:28:48 PM
More like he is scared of the inevitable trial.  :lol

Fixed!
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 08, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
Bush will never go on trial.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 08, 2006, 01:32:23 PM
Bush will never go on trial.
Wishful thinking.  History will not be kind to this administration.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 08, 2006, 01:33:37 PM
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and really, is a Democrat controlled House and possibly Senate going to alter our lives for the better so drastically?).  

yes, if they can repeal the Patriot Act, torture laws, suspension of habeas corpus and all the other filthy Big Brother measures used to crap all over our personal freedoms. I for one WELCOME our new terrorist-friendly overlords!
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 08, 2006, 01:34:55 PM
True, but he's not going to literally go on trial.
Oh, I know.  I misread and my comment was meant for Rumsfeld.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Cheebs on November 08, 2006, 01:36:15 PM
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and really, is a Democrat controlled House and possibly Senate going to alter our lives for the better so drastically?). 

yes, if they can repeal the Patriot Act, torture laws, suspension of habeas corpus and all the other filthy Big Brother measures used to crap all over our personal freedoms. I for one WELCOME our new terrorist-friendly overlords!
Don't forget. The Democrat senate gets to approve of the new Sec' of Defense. If the new guy is "stay the course" he ain't getting approved.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: TVC15 on November 08, 2006, 01:37:38 PM
This just in:  Montana was called for Democrats.  Virginia is the only uncalled state now.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 08, 2006, 01:41:33 PM
Wishful thinking.  History will not be kind to this administration.

Textbooks and impeachment are two very different things.

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yes, if they can repeal the Patriot Act, torture laws, suspension of habeas corpus and all the other filthy Big Brother measures used to crap all over our personal freedoms. I for one WELCOME our new terrorist-friendly overlords!

You're not a dumb man.  You think the Democrats are going to undo all the wrongs of the administration with this newfound sense of solidarity?  I give this "new" government two months before infighting and shenanigans begin.

Let's not forget, it wasn't just Republicans that weren't showing up to work and spending most of their constinuents' time fundraising.

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Don't forget. The Democrat senate gets to approve of the new Sec' of Defense. If the new guy is "stay the course" he ain't getting approved.

Bush is a lot of things, but he isn't stupid.  Why in the hell would he ask Rummy to resign so he could just appoint the same type of personnel?  He's obviously trying to not get cockblocked out of Congress.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Cheebs on November 08, 2006, 01:42:43 PM
Bush is a lot of things, but he isn't stupid.  Why in the hell would he ask Rummy to resign so he could just appoint the same type of personnel?  He's obviously trying to not get cockblocked out of Congress.
I know. He wont be stupid enough to put in a stay the course guy. Stay the course is dead.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: whiteACID on November 08, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, architect of an unpopular war in Iraq, is stepping down as Secretary of Defense, President Bush announced today. Bush said he is nominating Robert Gates, former head of the CIA, to replace Rumsfeld.
So this has been in the works for a little while now...of course they wouldn't announce it before the election.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Cheebs on November 08, 2006, 01:45:26 PM
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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, architect of an unpopular war in Iraq, is stepping down as Secretary of Defense, President Bush announced today. Bush said he is nominating Robert Gates, former head of the CIA, to replace Rumsfeld.
So this has been in the works for a little while now...of course they wouldn't announce it before the election.
they wouldnt announce it period if they won the election
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Wobedraggled on November 08, 2006, 01:46:29 PM
and there was much rejoicing, the future trials on this administration will make good tv

Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 08, 2006, 01:47:00 PM
they wouldnt announce it period if they won the election
Yep.  The whole thing is a vile game of smoke and mirrors.  Democracy does not work.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 08, 2006, 01:48:03 PM
People don't work.
Exactly!
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 08, 2006, 01:48:31 PM
Bush *is* stupid. He's demonstrated his deliberate ignorance and willful stupidity time and time again. He has some savvy playmakers in his corner, that's all.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Wobedraggled on November 08, 2006, 01:49:01 PM
and there was much rejoicing, the future trials on this administration will make good tv



Your avatar makes me hungry

I did that as a request on an old forum I used to haunt, found it in a pile of images the other week.

Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 08, 2006, 01:50:23 PM
No, Bush isn't stupid, but he is stubborn.  He's carefully orchestrated events to go according to his plan, but he's never accounted for being wrong.

Everyone who has met him knows he's pretty smart.  Rove is obviously the diabolical genius, but Bush is no slouch either.  He knows how to play the game and up until he ran out of chips, he was playing everybody.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 08, 2006, 01:57:18 PM
Press conference just ended. Overall I thought it was a good, candid discussion. Bush didn't hold back in describing what happened yesterday, going so far as to call it a "thumping". He placed blame upon himself a few times, and he also acknoledged issues such as the corruption seen in Republican politics recently.

His reach out for bipartisanship was rather clear, although to be frank he had no choice; in many ways, the Democrats are running things now. It's clear that he's going to stick to his guns on some core issues, but he made is clear that he was willing to work with Democrats on other issues such as immigration; a Democratic house actually gives him a better chance of getting his immigration ideas through than a Republican one.

He seemed a bit cagey at times, but he also was quite the jokester, going so far as to playfully slam Karl Rove to his face; I admit, I busted out laughing there.

But in the end it comes down to results. Bush gave a very optimistic State of the Union address at the beginning of this year and then failed to live up to any of his promises. It's going to be interesting to see how long Bush is willing to play nice with the Democrats. He's obviously used to getting his way, but when Pelosi and her gang of experienced committee leaders start turning up the heat Bush is in for a suprise.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Melissa on November 10, 2006, 08:53:27 PM
"More like he is scared of the inevitable trial."

Ahem!
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html)
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 10, 2006, 10:14:14 PM
owned.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 10, 2006, 11:07:55 PM
Not really
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 10, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
hopefully will be
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 03:09:08 PM
Don't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2006, 03:11:11 PM
Don't get your hopes up.
Is that what you said last week?
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 03:29:22 PM
Don't get your hopes up.
Is that what you said last week?

...about....?
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2006, 03:30:59 PM
...about....?
a monument of rapeage.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 04:01:24 PM
...about....?
a monument of rapeage.

Huh?
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 04:02:42 PM
Why do you refuse to be coherent...?
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 11, 2006, 05:05:32 PM
I think he's saying you said "don't get your hopes up" about the elections last week, and were proven wrong.

In this case, there's absolutely no way a foreign court is going to do anything to Rumsfied. Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 05:28:49 PM
I think he's saying you said "don't get your hopes up" about the elections last week, and were proven wrong.

In this case, there's absolutely no way a foreign court is going to do anything to Rumsfied. Not going to happen.

Did I say that?  I don't think I anticipated anything different than the common wisdom, which was more-or-less what happened.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 11, 2006, 09:13:52 PM
sure.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 11, 2006, 10:38:28 PM
Oh!  In that case post the link.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 11, 2006, 10:46:25 PM
Am Nintendo likes to lie alot
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: APF on November 12, 2006, 10:28:49 AM
Must be a Republican then.
Title: Re: Breaking News:
Post by: brawndolicious on November 12, 2006, 02:50:29 PM
Am Nintendo likes to lie alot
I'm as honest about that as you are of being black.