Microsoft tells Next-Gen that the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV is outselling the PlayStation 3 version by a wide margin in the US.
"What we've heard anecdotally from our retail partners is that the Xbox 360 version of the game is outselling the PS3 version by a margin of two-to-one," said Aaron Greenberg, director of product management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live during an interview Thursday.
"That mirrors what we saw with pre-orders, but it continues to hold true at retail, at least for the first couple of days. It's a great sign."
Greenberg said that many gamers are "graduating" from the last generation of consoles to this generation via Xbox 360 and GTA IV.
In day-one sales in the UK, the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV also outsold the PS3 version: 335,000 versus 274,000, respectively, according to Chart Track.
One of the big questions hovering around the release of GTA IV is just how much of an impact the game will have on sales of Xbox 360 and PS3.
SCEA released a statement Thursday saying that GTA IV drove a boost in PS3 sales on the game's launch day, although the company has yet to release hard figures.
ring ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices....
Should be higher for the X360 actually. Selling double on a console with double consoles sold aint that impressive.
How are those deluxe extra expensive editions doin?
Should be higher for the X360 actually. Selling double on a console with double consoles sold aint that impressive.
But that should just make it all the more obvious to firms with PS3 exclusives that they're losing out on potential revenue big-time.
Should be higher for the X360 actually. Selling double on a console with double consoles sold aint that impressive.
2:1 in us
1:1 in europe
show me a link where people said the ps3 version would sell better than the 360 version...
"ring ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices...."
if only square made games with guns and killing people! jrpgs bombed on 360 so why should square even consider it?
2:1 in us
1:1 in europe
show me a link where people said the ps3 version would sell better than the 360 version...
"ring ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices...."
if only square made games with guns and killing people! jrpgs bombed on 360 so why should square even consider it?
I eagerly await your MGS4 spin. :) :spin
Microsoft tells Next-Gen that the Xbox 360 versi
As if this wouldn't have happened.
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
As if this wouldn't have happened.I can't tell if this is a joke, but the 360 has the highest software attach ratio for any system I think
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
As if this wouldn't have happened.
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
...and that's the important thing!
As if this wouldn't have happened.I can't tell if this is a joke, but the 360 has the highest software attach ratio for any system I think
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
oh okAs if this wouldn't have happened.I can't tell if this is a joke, but the 360 has the highest software attach ratio for any system I think
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
I think he means this specific game.
As if this wouldn't have happened.
The install base is much larger.
But isn't the attachment rate much higher on PS3?
...and that's the important thing!
Are you saying you'd prefer they target the Wii or something? PS3 doesn't make sense as an exclusive platform, true, but neither does XBOX360.Quotering ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices....
bububububububu the PS3 is the only machine that let's us realise our artistic vision for FF13!
I agree with everything in this post. I will add that the JRPG genre is not completely fucked, as there are some PS2 RPGs that are still garnering decent sales (i.e. Persona 3....and probably Persona 4 later this year).Are you saying you'd prefer they target the Wii or something? PS3 doesn't make sense as an exclusive platform, true, but neither does XBOX360.Quotering ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices....
bububububububu the PS3 is the only machine that let's us realise our artistic vision for FF13!
Hell, perhaps the genre in general is fucked right now? Would you prefer they stick with Nintendo DS then?! Releasing the game for the Wii or Nintendo DS would require a smaller investment and the installed base would likely garner greater revenue. That may be the only way to combat dying interest in the RPG genre.
I'd say that selecting the PS3 as an exclusive platform is a huge fucking risk right now. The system simply isn't performing well in the marketplace. I think there is something to be said for a massively hyped exclusive game, however. PS3 exclusive support is akin to dropping a big game on XBOX last generation, I'd say. I'd imagine that, in the end, retail performance of a game like Final Fantasy would be rather similar regardless of whether it were exclusive to XBOX360 or PS3.
Honestly, cracking jokes over the PS3 hardware is very 2006. You have crazed fanboys on all sides, of course, but the majority of people know damn well that companies could replicate anything made for PS3 on 360 (and vice versa). If you are primarily interested in technical performance, the PC is the platform you should be supporting. If you are more interested in sales, I believe Nintendo is running circles around the competition (especially over there in Japan).
I agree that multiplatform releases probably make the most sense financially (if you insist on releasing a game on a non-Nintendo platform), but that doesn't mean I actually care for the end results. Multiplatform releases have come a long way, but I still feel that exclusive games tend to receive more polish in the end. I'm actually more interested in my enjoyment of a game rather than a companies bottom line (unless of course they perform SO poorly at retail that they can no longer create software).
who said ANYTHING about it being exclusive to X360?!Heh, sorry about that. My mistake. :D
From a personal perspective, do you really feel that exclusive games are necessary for your enjoyment?yup.
QuoteFrom a personal perspective, do you really feel that multiplatform games are necessary for your enjoyment?
nope - if it's multiplatform or not it doesn't really matter to me at all. I like some things about the PS3 and i like some things about the X360 and each multiplatform game would get judged on it's merit. In this case i'd expect PS3 to be the better version, so - really - it going to X360 has little bearing on my enjoyment of the -game-.QuoteFrom a business perspective, what do you believe Square-Enix should do in this situation?
PS3, X360, PC version. Barter for time period exclusivity and play MS and Sony off against one another to increase the worth of the contract (current deals etc obviously not factored in - these discussions may have already happened). All this is simplifying the situation of course - we know that Nomura et al have already said "has to be ps3" and that there are prior relationships with Sony, and more recent agreements with MS (and nintendo)
What they will do : Ps3 exclusive.
QuoteThe Company/person with the third most number of stock in the company: Sony Computer Entertainment
so - why does any SE game go to any other platform?
QuoteWell, the DS games are because Sony understands that the older games/ remakes, and some of the newer ones targeted at younger kids will do better on DS rather than the psp I guess.
not as such. I don't mean to be assy about this, but do you think Sony are consulted on every platform choice for an okay/rubberstamp?
do you think they also call the several investment banks that have a much larger combined stake holding to ask them what they think?
i got the 360 version to stick it to synth :punch
who knows when ill play it!
And Crytal Tools is
1) Not ready
2) Is shit
:gloomy
should have used ue3
when not even western developers (except epic) can use ue3 what hope do you think jap devs got? :lol
after playing lost odyssey from top to bottom i don't see how ff13 and even mgs4 couldn't exist as a multi-disk game on the 360. that game was HUGE.Quotering ring Square Enix, this is Harsh Reality speaking, we'd like a word with you about your platform choices....
bububububububu the PS3 is the only machine that let's us realise our artistic vision for FF13!
actually, sony fans don't even agree with that either!
The come back is "fnuknuk- how many disks would it be on? 49?! lol"
no one ever says "This is simply not possible technically on x360/Xenon"
50gig disk - subtract redundant data - would only be 4 or 5 disks tops. FF13 is being made in a cross plat engine - so could/should be done on both platforms. Whether it will be will just depend how much SE like money. I like money, shareholders like money, people who work at companies surely like bonuses.
I don't think PS3 will have much difficulty taking second place this gen.
MGS4 doesn't use CG.
I don't know if the PS3 will take second place or not (it probably will, but not by much IMO), but I think we both agree that the Wii will take top honors in install base.
Different markets, different appeal, though. Sony never could compete with Wii on the terms set by Wii, as that would run counter to Sony's CE business. Nintendo has effectively crafted its own market, as it said it would. Which is pretty awesome in its own right, but I think talking about the situation as if it was somehow an even race, or a match in the same division even, is a bit silly.
What matters (not to us the consumers, but to corporate brass who protect their corporations' bottom lines) is that they make generate enough revenue to make a profit. In that regard, the Wii is performing much better than the other two manufacturers, and I think both Sony and Microsoft wouldn't mind for a second to trade their positions with Nintendo in terms of growth, profit, and perhaps more importantly, marketshare and mindshare.
The reason why they are PS3 exclusive with Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest:
Honestly, what they've done with FF13 has gone against what they have done every previous generation - wait for the leader to be clear, then make the platform choice.
If they could do so within their areas of business and without being to the detriment of other areas of business, that is. Which is the point I'm trying to make here. It's ludicrous to view this as a same-term "console war". Microsoft is pushing to establish a conduit between its operating system and services and the entertainment center (which explains why the storage capabilities are severely gimped, while the streaming capabilities are so full featured), The Playstation 3 is an entertainment device that serves to complement and support Sony's CE business, and the Wii is, for all intents and purposes, a toy, one that serves well as a toy, but would be a miserable showcase system for high end CE devices.
I'm certain that all three would love for all of their standalone products to generate profit, but when you're looking at a conduit or a support system, profiting off of individual products is likely a good deal less crucial than if the product was, like Wii, a standalone product. Ideally, Microsoft would be in a position where it can pressure Sony into accepting MS OS and services, so we could get one high end CE platform to complement Nintendo's toy.
How are those deluxe extra expensive editions doin?I got one.