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Title: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:44:55 AM
Hey, I've not seen a bad movie in a while. I consider part of my film study to be to study horrible films as well, and this looks like it might fit the bill quite nicely, due to a fucking pathetic Rotten Tomatoes ranking and the fact that the trailer looked like fried horse shit.

Anyone else going to stomach this monstrosity this weekend in order to appreciate There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men more? I'm probably going to watch that and Iron Man this weekend.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Raban on May 08, 2008, 02:45:51 AM
Wachowski Bros. :yuck
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 08, 2008, 03:02:12 AM
I actually get the feeling that despite my wanting to hate it, that it will actually rock.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 03:08:04 AM
Yeah, I have a sneaky suspscion that it will be far from terrible.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Candyflip on May 08, 2008, 03:14:54 AM
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1904/220pxpaulielittbydavidsyj9.jpg)

I want to kill this kid.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Robo on May 08, 2008, 03:16:49 AM
hahah what the fuck
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 08, 2008, 03:16:50 AM
It looks like F-Zero GX: The Movie.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 08, 2008, 06:20:30 AM
Watch Redbelt instead!

Edit: Actually, I making it sound like Redbelt will suck by posting in this thread. It looks sweet
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 08, 2008, 08:49:31 AM
I don't know what this ching chong shit is in the first place.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 08, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
i can't WAIT to see this.  if nothing else it will be HFCS for the eyes.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: DJ_Tet on May 08, 2008, 11:21:38 AM
I might have to go see this alone, but I really want to see it on the big screen.  I'm hoping for positive word of mouth and perhaps I can talk a couple of buddies into it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 08, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
Yeah, I have a sneaky suspscion that it will be far from terrible.

But does it have what it takes to be this year's TRANSFORMERS, Federwang?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 08, 2008, 01:17:58 PM
Hey, I've not seen a bad movie in a while. I consider part of my film study to be to study horrible films as well, and this looks like it might fit the bill quite nicely, due to a fucking pathetic Rotten Tomatoes ranking and the fact that the trailer looked like fried horse shit.

Anyone else going to stomach this monstrosity this weekend in order to appreciate There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men more? I'm probably going to watch that and Iron Man this weekend.

jeez you don't have to be a dick about it. the movie looks like trash yes, but enough of the e-penis stroking plz mmk :bow

Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 08, 2008, 01:21:56 PM
The movie looks awesome you stupid fucks
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 08, 2008, 01:25:27 PM
OH LOOKIE ME I APPRECVIATE THE FINER MOVIES ONLY SUNDANCE LIEKS CUZ ITS ALL FILM GRAIN BLACK AND WHITE SCOWLING AND REAL CRIME
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 08, 2008, 01:41:47 PM
i can't WAIT to see this.  if nothing else it will be HFCS for the eyes.
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I've been stoked since before the first image was released! history will back me up

I'm so there at the digital IMAX
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
But does it have what it takes to be this year's TRANSFORMERS, Federwang?

Transformers wasn't spectacular by any means - just fun.  Not even comparable films.  The only film that might be as good as Transformers in the "good times, but hopelessly forgettable" category and delivers on its promise is probably Indiana Jones.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:16:06 PM
OH LOOKIE ME I APPRECVIATE THE FINER MOVIES ONLY SUNDANCE LIEKS CUZ ITS ALL FILM GRAIN BLACK AND WHITE SCOWLING AND REAL CRIME

I like the Star Wars prequels. I think I don't count in this category.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:17:06 PM
But does it have what it takes to be this year's TRANSFORMERS, Federwang?

Transformers wasn't spectacular by any means - just fun.  Not even comparable films.  The only film that might be as good as Transformers in the "good times, but hopelessly forgettable" category and delivers on its promise is probably Indiana Jones.

Indiana Jones will be memorable. I think a lot of people will be eating crow once this film comes out.

It's SPIELBERG. He's directing. I think we are safe folks.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 02:19:32 PM
Spielberg hasn't made a great film in a long time.  Why would we be safe?

I can give you ten reasons why the film will suck, and none can be countered with, "Hey, it's Spielberg!"  One of my reasons is that the director is Spielberg.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:35:53 PM
Spielberg hasn't made a great film in a long time.  Why would we be safe?

I can give you ten reasons why the film will suck, and none can be countered with, "Hey, it's Spielberg!"  One of my reasons is that the director is Spielberg.

Jesus. Not this again.

War of the Worlds - decent
Minority Report - one of the best films this decade
AI - woefully underappreciated

I didn't like Munich, but it was shot and acted well. The pacing was just too slow for this type of film.

As for the other reasons -

LeBeouf: He's just been in shitty movies. I think he could pull it off. I didn't really have a problem with him in Transformers or Disturbia, just what he was stuck with.
Lucas: seriously, even though I like the prequels, I have my complaints. I'm not going to deny that the dialogue sucked and the acting is horrible. However, Lucas is not directing or writing the screenplay, so there shouldn't be shitty dialogue or acting.
Aliens in Indy: Okay, seriously. This is the man that fucking directed E.T. and Close Encounters. I think he knows how to handle the material correctly.

I heard clips from the John Williams score (the last Williams score I haven't liked was Chamber of Secrets) and it sounds like an Indy score should, to say the least.

Seriously, I'm not seeing any reason why this will suck.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 02:36:46 PM
You like the prequels?

REBUTTAL DENIED.

Minority Report is not one of the best films of this decade whatsoever.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 08, 2008, 02:38:26 PM
Minority Report is not one of the best films of this decade whatsoever.

yeah, i can at least see everything else you  discussed as being a valid viewpoint, even if it's not my viewpoint as well, but i don't see that at all.

Munich was better than Minority Report
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:39:45 PM
You like the prequels?

REBUTTAL DENIED.

Minority Report is not one of the best films of this decade whatsoever.

I love how you jump to that immediately, even though I explain that they aren't perfect. I just think the stories and visuals are interesting enough to carry the film. And, Episode III is better then Return of the Jedi. Ian McDiarmand outfucking acts everyone in all of the prequels in that one movie.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
Spielberg has made a bunch of mediocre films this century and that's all.  Artificial Intelligence didn't deserve to be shat on, but it certainly doesn't deserve much praise.  Totally flawed Kubrick-lite film.

So where's this awesome track record of quality?  Not in the past ten years or so.  Spielberg hasn't made a truly great film in awhile.  All his stuff is mediocre and the guy can't pick a script to save his life anymore.

Based on his track record, I suspect Indiana Jonese and The Search for E.T. will be MEDIOCRE.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
I love how you jump to that immediately, even though I explain that they aren't perfect. I just think the stories and visuals are interesting enough to carry the film.

No.

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And, Episode III is better then Return of the Jedi.

Episode III isn't even better than the lame Ewoks movie.

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Ian McDiarmand outfucking acts everyone in all of the prequels in that one movie.

What?  Are you kidding me? :lol

I wasn't aware that chewing scenery and hamming it up qualifies as acting.  Although, if judged against the cardboard cutouts from the rest of the prequels - he probably does seem awesome.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
Well, I can at least guarantee that Willco will think it is mediocre.

Then again, he liked Transformers.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:45:32 PM
Anyways, back on topic:

the visual style of Speed Racer will probably give me a migraine in less than two minutes. Although Giaccino (sp?) does the score.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 08, 2008, 02:45:47 PM
Which was borderline mediocre, only propped up for me personally on the fact that I get erections from giant robots blowing shit up.  I never claimed it was high art!  I also prefaced my review with my expectations - for it to be as woefully bad as the cartoon.  Which it wasn't.  I dug it.

Whereas my expectations for the Indiana Jones movie are HIGH because I like the series.  You see?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 02:47:58 PM
Which was borderline mediocre, only propped up for me personally on the fact that I get erections from giant robots blowing shit up.  I never claimed it was high art!  I also prefaced my review with my expectations - for it to be as woefully bad as the cartoon.  Which it wasn't.  I dug it.

Whereas my expectations for the Indiana Jones movie are HIGH because I like the series.  You see?

Well, I can guarantee that one of us will be eating crow by June. Who that is will remain to be seen.

Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 08, 2008, 07:25:22 PM
Bloodwake, you like the Star Wars prequels - of course you'll love the new Indy. The only person who will be eating crow is you when EB definitely rates Indy on a 10 point scale
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: EvilBoris on May 08, 2008, 09:37:35 PM
The only person who will be eating crow is you when EB definitely rates Indy on a 10 point scale

 oh no!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2008, 09:58:43 PM
I'm trying to go see Speed Racer at the Omni Imax at the aquarium in Boston.  :hyper
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 08, 2008, 10:00:37 PM
I'm going to see Speed Racer in digital IMAX at the Irvine Spectrum. :hyper
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 08, 2008, 10:09:21 PM
I love how people are already convinced its going to suck.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: pilonv1 on May 08, 2008, 10:51:20 PM
Episode III isn't even better than the lame Ewoks movie.

Caravan of Courage or An Ewok Adventure?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 08, 2008, 10:56:36 PM
The first seven minutes is now online in HD format:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/speedracer.html?showVideo=1

This film should've been in 3d.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 08, 2008, 11:06:27 PM
that would have been great.

this is, so far, exactly what i hoped it would be.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 08, 2008, 11:18:00 PM
From what I can tell it does the cartoon more justice than GI Joe ever will. Yeah it's cheesy but that's point.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 08, 2008, 11:19:49 PM
yeah.  over the top a bit, as far as the racing, but the original was as well it just wasn't so...well it wasn't so THIS.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 13, 2008, 11:01:07 PM
Fucking loved every second of it. Of the two "summer" movies released so far, this shits all over Iron Man ('cept at the box office, lolz). 2 hours of pure, unbridled joy for me. Digital projection just added to the win. And this is coming from someone who hates anime, hated the Wachowskis after their last two films, and thought this movie looked distinguished mentally-challenged initially.

That this is bombing is a fucking shame. Its worth seeing for the visuals alone, which are like nothing you've ever seen.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 13, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
i wanted to see it last night but it wasn't playing at a good time for me

this weekend assuredly
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2008, 12:01:49 AM
Fucking loved every second of it. Of the two "summer" movies released so far, this shits all over Iron Man ('cept at the box office, lolz). 2 hours of pure, unbridled joy for me. Digital projection just added to the win. And this is coming from someone who hates anime, hated the Wachowskis after their last two films, and thought this movie looked distinguished mentally-challenged initially.

That this is bombing is a fucking shame. Its worth seeing for the visuals alone, which are like nothing you've ever seen.

:o
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 12:02:50 AM
Yessir!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2008, 12:05:31 AM
I really don't have time to see it until next weekend.

I don't know if it's still going to be around. :lol
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 12:07:38 AM
Probably wont be  :lol

 :'(

You wont like it anyways, Juice.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2008, 12:08:28 AM
Finals  :'(

Actuarial Exam  :'(

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You wont like it anyways, Juice.

Yeah, probably not. But I figured I might as well check it out on the big screen if I was going to at all.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 14, 2008, 12:09:47 AM
You like the prequels?

REBUTTAL DENIED.

Minority Report is not one of the best films of this decade whatsoever.

I love how you jump to that immediately, even though I explain that they aren't perfect. I just think the stories and visuals are interesting enough to carry the film. And, Episode III is better then Return of the Jedi. Ian McDiarmand outfucking acts everyone in all of the prequels in that one movie.

chewing scenery and hamming it up isn't acting. i thought ian mcdiarmid was fucking awful in rots, which is sad for a dude with legitimate stage skillz.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Good to see Solo join Patel and I at the big boy's table!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 12:40:48 AM
Seriously, hours after seeing the movie, I cant get it out of my head. I think the Wachowskis really delivered something special here. Hopefully it gains some cult status since it sure as hell aint getting mainstream approval.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 01:11:59 AM
I wasn't as exuberant as you were, but I share your thoughts.  I think I walked away from that film far more fulfilled than I was even with Iron Man, despite everyone saying otherwise.  It really feels like a living cartoon and they committed something to celluoid that nobody has before (save for Who Framed Roger Rabbit) - a cartoon with a heart.  It's not soulless whatsoever and the actors totally sell it.  It's campy and over-the-top and all those things that make animation great, but it's not hollow, which is where so many of its predecessors have failed before.  To me, that's the big difference.

I'm going to try and see it again on IMAX this weekend, before it bows out of theatre completely.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 01:15:34 AM
Yeah, I think thats why it really worked for me - it never felt hollow or soulless or shallow. Quite the contrary, which is quite an achievement given the source.

Nice to see Im not the only one who preferred it over IM.

Ill also be seeing it once more before it leaves theatres all-too-soon.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 01:19:20 AM
Yeah, I've heard quite a few folks refer to it as this generation's Dick Tracy, even favorably, but I think that does a disservice to Speed Racer.  Dick Tracy was just as faithful to its source material, but came out as a soulless enterprise with cardboard cutout characters.  Not to say that Speed Racer is an acting tour de force, but many of the main characters have actual character arcs and meet the challenges head on (John Goodman in particular makes up for his terrible role in the awful The Flintstones with a really great, heartfelt performance).  I thought Speed was kind of a twat in the original anime, but rather liked his character here.  And Matthew Fox is just having fun with his turn as Racer X.  I think John Goodman and Susan Sarandon really sell this thing, though.  They know when to play it for real and when to ham it up.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 01:22:32 AM
Preach it, brother! I also felt the film was superbly directed and edited. People have said the middle act lulls, but I felt the entire thing was really briskly paced. TDK is the only other summer movie this year that will compete with this. And I fear an overhying/oversaturation of TDK, leading to disappointment if it isnt essentially flawless.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2008, 01:26:50 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 01:27:39 AM
I really didn't feel restless, although I could see how kids might get turned off during the "talky" bits or where Speed reflects on coming full circle like his dearly departed brother.  It feels big and ambitious, which is something you simply do not see in family movies nowadays.  The Wachowski Bros. really work up to the Grand Prix, to the point where even if you don't know what a turbine or a piston is, you are simply enjoying the hell out of the moment.

I'm really looking forward to The Dark Knight and have high expectations, but unlike you, I'm staying as far away from spoiler sites, NeoGAF Bale mobs and early reviews as possible.  I'm trying to walk in with my own set of expectations and not anyone else's.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 01:29:28 AM
I actually wasnt referring to myself in terms of TDK, just (internet forum) people in general. They've hyped this shit over the moon. Personally I am rather indifferent. I enjoy BB but its got its flaws, and Ive never understood the worship it gets. The GAF thread will be hilarious if the movie is only average. Youd have to put most of them on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 01:33:40 AM
Yeah, but even if you hang around those groups of people (which you are - you created their damn altar of worship!), their expectations and spoilers rub off on you.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 01:36:03 AM
Indeed. Its funny that I created said thread as a joke and yet its become a beast of its own.  :lol

I am genuinely afraid of the mental state of several of the people who frequently post in it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 14, 2008, 01:37:31 AM
I've already read a mean spioler for TDK and now I stay clear from any and all threads about it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 14, 2008, 01:41:12 AM
Just got back from it. It's probably one of the most colorful films I've seen yet coming out of a digital projector. So unless you're one of those whose parents were raped by a rainbow when you were a kid, there are skies so blue in this film it will make your eyes bleed. It really does succeed as a living cartoon. The moment the film starts it feels like someone just handed you a fruity candy cane laced with acid.

I never was into the show when I was a kid but as I got older I could appreciate the sheer cheesiness of its style. I do think that the Wachowski's accomplished what they had set out to do, which was take the tone of the cartoon and exaggerate it for the big screen. The races were very kinetic, my favorite being the one that plays out like a "Wacky Races" cartoon with weapons and car-fu. Plus it's got ninjas and John Goodman, and they're always intimidating badasses (well at least Goodman is).

I did have some problems with the film. I felt the first half was a bit weak and Speed came off as a shallow character. It also had some pretty poor pacing issues. There were moments where I got confused by what was a flashback/flashforward and what was present time, and I also felt the film went one race too long (there was a moment where it looked like it was building up to an ending but instead went to another race). I also think the film had an unnecessarily complex story dealing with corporate greed and corruption. One that is surely to fly over the majority of children's heads.

The movie does have a couple of distinguished mentally-challenged kids' moments. You know, those moments of sheer brain dead stupidity that have plagued children's films since the 90's. Thankfully those are few and John Goodman was always around the corner to balance things out. Speaking of which, Goodman easily overshadows everyone else in this movie. His character probably has more depth and emotion than the entire cast combined.

Overall I think Speed Racer falls into the "good but not great" category. It's definitely got more energy and imagination than Iron Man did, and does all it needs to do in one movie without cockteasing at a potentially better sequel.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 14, 2008, 01:41:41 AM
Episode 3 sucks big donkey dick. Return of the Jedi is way better.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2008, 01:42:14 AM
I've already read a mean spioler for TDK and now I stay clear from any and all threads about it.

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Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 14, 2008, 01:52:35 AM
How come Transformers made a fucktillion dollars, and Speed Racer can't make crap? It ain't right.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 01:54:34 AM
How come Transformers made a fucktillion dollars, and Speed Racer can't make crap? It ain't right.

I agree on an artistic level, but on a marketing level, an anime that was viewed by forty-something father and his small group of geek peers isn't really ripe for merchandising to the extent of an intellectual property that has been a huge goldmine with kids for decades.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: pilonv1 on May 14, 2008, 01:56:47 AM
is there at least a monkey in this film? I saw nothing of the sort in the preview
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 14, 2008, 01:58:51 AM
Yes, there's plenty of red-hot monkey action.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 08:53:13 AM
if you told me two months ago that willco and solo were going to be discussing the finer nuances of speed racer, i would have laughed in your face.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 11:52:39 AM
I likes what I likes! I feel no shame in my unabashed SR love! Did you see it yet Eric?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 12:06:57 PM
no

this weekend

when i went to see a movie on monday the only thing playing was iron man because it's on a million screens
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 14, 2008, 12:15:05 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 12:21:40 PM
iron man was a breath of fresh air?

it was the hulk with different characters
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: DJ_Tet on May 14, 2008, 12:25:19 PM
Damnit.  This better still be in a theater next week.  I am going out of town this weekend.  If I miss out I'm going to be pissed.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 02:06:21 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Word to this entire post... and I often disagree with Patel. SR: the great uniter! I also cant wait for the BD of this (which, with it bombing so bad, wont be too long of a wait). Unless WB totally mucks it up, it should be a reference quality disc.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 02:24:10 PM
Fucking loved every second of it. Of the two "summer" movies released so far, this shits all over Iron Man ('cept at the box office, lolz). 2 hours of pure, unbridled joy for me. Digital projection just added to the win. And this is coming from someone who hates anime, hated the Wachowskis after their last two films, and thought this movie looked distinguished mentally-challenged initially.

That this is bombing is a fucking shame. Its worth seeing for the visuals alone, which are like nothing you've ever seen.

A man shitting into a bag for two hours is also like nothing I've ever seen, but that doesn't mean that it's a good movie.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: border on May 14, 2008, 02:31:08 PM
I was smiling through most of the movie, thinking "I can't believe somebody made this ridiculous piece of shit.....I can't believe some studio exec signed off on it.....I can't believe Susan Sarandon though this was worth her time."  It's fun, but it seems like a pretty obvious recipe for failure.

It's not really good in any classic, or objective sense.  It's just straight up goofy and how much it charms you is gonna depend on how much you'll buy into that goofiness.  It really is a big cartoon.  I'm surprised to see anyone praising the acting -- I think it's all intentionally pretty terrible melodrama.  Everything's delivered with such forceful weight......which I suppose is meant to make it like the cartoon.  Matthew Fox is probably the best at this.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 02:48:14 PM
Triumph continues to hate without properly screening it!  That's just silly.  Even the movies I have a hate-on for, I will go see just so I can make a clear argument against (Star Wars!).
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 02:56:02 PM
Triumph continues to hate without properly screening it!  That's just silly.  Even the movies I have a hate-on for, I will go see just so I can make a clear argument against (Star Wars!).

You know, I could go spend 2 hours in a theater watching a bad movie or I could walk to the beach and chill with my dog.  Pretty easy choice when you break it down, no?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 03:00:31 PM
You never appreciate good cinema until you watch bad cinema.  Also, if you only have two hours a day - you suck.  Aren't you unemployed anyway?  I'm sure you have lots of free time!

Even if you hate it, you know from a technical perspective, there's a lot you can take away from this film.  That alone should be worth the price of admission for folks that follow the industry.

Now, I'm not going to watch Harold and Kumar 2 in theatres, but I probably will go see Indiana Jones even though I have a strong gut feeling that it'll be a soulless and unnecessary enterprise.  Why?  To see what Spielberg cooked up.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 03:04:36 PM
Dude, before my friends made The Signal I watched pretty much every shitty horror movie made in the past 40 years for reference material. I think sitting through the Eli Roth catalog gives me a pass on watching more shitty movies for a couple years.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 14, 2008, 03:16:05 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Now, I'm going to give the movie a fair shake and all, but you just compared it to a) one of the best movies of the decade, and b) one of the best movies of ALL TIME.  That's some mighty hype you be spittin'.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 03:24:35 PM
Dude, before my friends made The Signal I watched pretty much every shitty horror movie made in the past 40 years for reference material. I think sitting through the Eli Roth catalog gives me a pass on watching more shitty movies for a couple years.

Almost all horror movies are shitty movies.  The genre is pretty bad.  That doesn't excuse you for anything!

I don't think he's comparing Speed Racer as a whole to either film, TVC - he's just saying that parts of it are comparable to those two flicks.  I get where he's coming from.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: border on May 14, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
You know, I could go spend 2 hours in a theater watching a bad movie or I could walk to the beach and chill with my dog.
Did you move out of ATL?  If not, that would be a pretty long walk to the beach.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 04:36:23 PM
You know, I could go spend 2 hours in a theater watching a bad movie or I could walk to the beach and chill with my dog.

Did you move out of ATL?  If not, that would be a pretty long walk to the beach.

Yeah, I've been living in scenic Wilmington, NC since last August.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Word to this entire post... and I often disagree with Patel. SR: the great uniter! I also cant wait for the BD of this (which, with it bombing so bad, wont be too long of a wait). Unless WB totally mucks it up, it should be a reference quality disc.

I can't believe you just agreed with a post that compared Speed Racer to 2001.

The world is turning upside down.

Maybe I'll get laid soon.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Word to this entire post... and I often disagree with Patel. SR: the great uniter! I also cant wait for the BD of this (which, with it bombing so bad, wont be too long of a wait). Unless WB totally mucks it up, it should be a reference quality disc.

I can't believe you just agreed with a post that compared Speed Racer to 2001.

The world is turning upside down.

Maybe I'll get laid soon.

Whoa, whoa, whoa... let's not get hasty here.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 04:47:50 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Word to this entire post... and I often disagree with Patel. SR: the great uniter! I also cant wait for the BD of this (which, with it bombing so bad, wont be too long of a wait). Unless WB totally mucks it up, it should be a reference quality disc.

I can't believe you just agreed with a post that compared Speed Racer to 2001.

The world is turning upside down.

Maybe I'll get laid soon.

Im not agreeing that SR is a film of 2001's quality. It isnt, and anyone who tries to tell you so is batshit insane. And I dont think Patel was trying to say that. I was agreeing with what I thought Patel was saying, which was that SR felt like 2001 visually, in that its an all out assault on your senses. 2001 is one of the greatest films ever made, and SR is not.

What SR IS, however, in my eyes, is the best "summer"/blockbuster movie Ive seen since probably Batman Begins some 3 years ago, or Spidey 2 some 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 07:16:03 PM
Almost all horror movies are shitty movies.  The genre is pretty bad. 

septic cinematic wasteland
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 14, 2008, 10:08:01 PM
Speed Racer has actually gotten better with time and distance ... I am sad it will almost assuredly be out of theaters by the time I get back from Japan.

If I had to pick two touchstones, I'd say Moulin Rouge and 2001. Moulin Rouge because that's another charming, heartfelt, kinetic film dismissed by most critics as "all action and no heart," seemingly baseless complaints about story, etc. SR has just as much characterization and plot as Iron Man does - you're not allowed to bash SR and turn around and praise Iron Man's "fresh take" in the next breath.

2001, specifically the Beyond the Infinite section, because the movie and especially the Grand Prix are just that fucking out there in terms of visual overstimulation.

Can't wait for it on Blu Ray, and a shame it's bombing so severely.

Word to this entire post... and I often disagree with Patel. SR: the great uniter! I also cant wait for the BD of this (which, with it bombing so bad, wont be too long of a wait). Unless WB totally mucks it up, it should be a reference quality disc.

I can't believe you just agreed with a post that compared Speed Racer to 2001.

The world is turning upside down.

Maybe I'll get laid soon.

Im not agreeing that SR is a film of 2001's quality. It isnt, and anyone who tries to tell you so is batshit insane. And I dont think Patel was trying to say that. I was agreeing with what I thought Patel was saying, which was that SR felt like 2001 visually, in that its an all out assault on your senses. 2001 is one of the greatest films ever made, and SR is not.

What SR IS, however, in my eyes, is the best "summer"/blockbuster movie Ive seen since probably Batman Begins some 3 years ago, or Spidey 2 some 4 years ago.

yeah, in no way was I saying SR was as good as 2001 (or even Moulin Rouge) - but I think that the gut, visceral hate-ons people have for the movie are derived from elements shared with those two movies.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 10:09:36 PM
I want to see footage of people on hallucigens watching it.  That one lap where Speed is battling other colorful cars with the alternating black and white zebra thing going on in the background is likely to give some kids seizures.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 14, 2008, 10:10:18 PM
HE DRIVES THROUGH A ZOETROPE

how awesome is that
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 14, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
Is that what it's called?

Yeah, that was pretty nuts.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 14, 2008, 11:45:34 PM
I think the downright wackiest bit was with the chimp and the little bro causing hijinx to the Freebird solo.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: brandonh83 on May 16, 2008, 03:31:55 PM
This movie is fucking incredible. Yep that's all I wanted to post.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 04:21:34 PM
so my local theater added showings this weekend
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 16, 2008, 04:42:06 PM
Cant wait to see if you love it or hate it, Eric.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
think i'lll hit the 5:20 show and skip out on the huge commute home
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 16, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
Yea, I think I'm gonna want to see this tomorrow. I'm totally bombing out one course, but I just found out I don't need a C in it to graduate. I need to celebrate. :rock
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 10:02:42 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 16, 2008, 10:17:53 PM
Welcome, brother. Cool beans!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 10:19:33 PM
that was so amazing

the detail in the art direction was just amazing

i think my favorite part was probably when speed kisses trixie and the flashbulbs turn to hearts

and the canyon fight was amazing the way they added in the "speed lines" around the action points of fists flying and feet kicking...

and motherfucking richard goddamn roundtree.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 16, 2008, 10:21:17 PM
 :lol

You definately left the theatre as pumped and excited as I did. That rocks. Im going to go see it early next week again, just so that I get a second viewing in before it goes *poof* from all existence in theatres.

That fight scene was fucking fanastic.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 10:24:41 PM
this really is the best film they've done since Bound.

It was really with this that i saw that kind of passion in it

i was so pumped i bought a speed racer lego set

sadly they didn't have an awesome mach 5.


the races were just insane. 

at parts i felt it was overlong, but then something AMAZING would happen and all of that would be wiped away.  i sat through half the damn movie with a goofy ass grin on my face.

just an absolute pleasure to watch.  just such joy of cinema.

lars van trier am suicide

time to take dogma 95 out back and put it down like old yeller
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 16, 2008, 10:57:18 PM
How the W bros used the effects really impressed me. Like having Speed racing against the competition AND his brother's memory at the same time (and darnit, I got a lil misty eyed when he let up on the gas, lolz).
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 16, 2008, 11:07:26 PM
yeah, the ghost effect was so awesome.

that whole opening race was awesome the flash backs, forwards, the editing the building of character

and john goodman.  wow.

i mean

it's speed racer

fucking SPEED RACER

how did they do that?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 16, 2008, 11:10:43 PM
'Tis a question I have been pondering for almost a week! Wachowskis? Frackin' Speed Racer? Great movie? Yes sir!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 17, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
awesome, Eric, glad you joined the winning team 8)

seeing it in digital IMAX was fantastic. can't wait for it to come out on bluRay.

I have a new theory that people over a certain age might not have the brain parts necessary to parse the narrative.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 17, 2008, 12:02:45 PM
That theory wouldn't make sense since you are like 40-years-old, Patel!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 17, 2008, 12:10:07 PM
I had a dream about talking about talking about Speed Racer.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 17, 2008, 12:10:34 PM
That theory wouldn't make sense since you are like 40-years-old, Patel!

I'm not even 30! I just have the hairline of a 40-year-old :(
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 17, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
Speed Racer was probably one of the most psychedelic movies that I've seen in a good long while. If I had to compare it to something, it was like some poured skittles on my head while I was the stargate sequence from 2001 over and over for two hours only sometimes the stargate sequence would go away and kid and monkey would appear on the screen. I can't even begin to imagine what that movie would do to someone who was actually ON drugs.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 02:14:04 AM
Holy shit, that was the best summer movie I can think of that I've managed to see in a theater.  I walked out of that theatre with a big ol' dumb smile on my face.  I couldn't have been happier with the movie.  I can't wait to have it on BD!

Speed Racer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Man

I feel bad for Triumph for writing this one off and trolling it like he's seen it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: EvilBoris on May 18, 2008, 02:17:48 AM
 too many kids on a sugar rush here.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 02:17:51 AM
The Wachowski Bros. pieced together the best summer fare in ages, and everyone hates it.  I think it also sucks that they will never be able to explore the concept or universe ever again after this.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 18, 2008, 02:18:56 AM
wait, why do people hate it?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 02:20:20 AM
Triumph hates it because he fears of some nerd-stalgia in a similar vein of Transformers, but when was Speed Racer ever that popular amongst the Adul Swim demographic?  Most folks hate its colorful style, dialogue, acting, directing, etc.

A ton of critics think it's so psychadelic that it's disgusting.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 02:24:59 AM
The Wachowski Bros. pieced together the best summer fare in ages, and everyone hates it.  I think it also sucks that they will never be able to explore the concept or universe ever again after this.

It's like perfectly cast, too.  I can't believe this bombed :(  This is going to be a cult classic for sure.

The opening 20 or so minutes with the introductions and the multiple flashbacks going on was really neat.  All the editing was impressive.  The editing was taking cues from both the cartoons and whatever drugs the Wachowski's were taking.  I can't even nitpick this movie, aside from one or two slow scenes, although they weren't that long. 
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 02:27:52 AM
There are folks that absolutely hated how it went back and forth of the timeline in the beginning of the movie, but I felt it worked really well.  This gave a lot more heart and credibility to Speed Racer than the anime ever did.

Like I said, this is a psychadelic living cartoon that has heart and charm.  So many summer blockbusters feel completely soulless and manufactured (Transformers included!), but you can tell that this is not the case here.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 02:29:54 AM
And Roger Allam was excellent, again, too.  He's a good villain.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 02:31:28 AM
How 'bout that Michael Giacchino score too?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 18, 2008, 02:44:20 AM
Yeah this was definitely a case where the filmmakers understood the source material and the reasons why it was loved. I'm really glad that they were actually able to make a "complete" film out of it too as opposed to being a two hour commercial for a potentially better sequel.

wait, why do people hate it?

Because it's colorful and imaginative? Or it's probably because it makes them feel intelligent and manly? Or maybe it's because some people have a hard time discerning intentional camp from shit?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 02:44:42 AM
mwahahahaha

more added to the fold

can't wait for inevitable fucktard backlash

Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 02:45:51 AM
mwahahahaha

more added to the fold

can't wait for inevitable fucktard backlash

I don't think it's humanly possible for there to be backlash on this movie.  The damage was front loaded.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 02:48:12 AM
i dunno

all the cool kids like it

so that probably means it's elitist
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2008, 02:52:08 AM
This is the backlash to the frontlash. If mainstream America doesn't like this movie, then the elitists will take it away from them.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 18, 2008, 02:52:27 AM
Joe's got it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 02:54:05 AM
Joe's got it.

i just want to tell you that my girlfriend and i paid to go see the movie from whence your avatar comes in theaters.

we were the only hetero people in the theaters

and the most out of shape

Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2008, 02:54:27 AM
I like your new avatar. I had to watch that movie for a film class, and that was the best part of it.  :lol
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 18, 2008, 02:56:06 AM
I don't even know where it's from. :lol
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 02:57:29 AM
This is the backlash to the frontlash. If mainstream America doesn't like this movie, then the elitists will take it away from them.

I don't think it's possible, since I was the first one to praise it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 02:57:50 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113464/
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2008, 03:01:10 AM
A gay comedy about dating a guy with AIDs. It's the stuff of comedy gold.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 03:03:09 AM
it actually is quite funny though
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: brandonh83 on May 18, 2008, 04:17:38 AM
Saw it again today. Myself and Bloodwake went. Don't know if he genuinely loved it or loved it because he was afraid I'd beat the shit out of him if he didn't, but he loved it.  :lol Good thing too, his life would be in danger otherwise. This movie is incredible.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 04:39:18 AM
I really liked the fight scenes, too.  I mean, I knew going in that the race scenes would be spectacular, but the two fight scenes in the movie showed as much visual pizzazz as the racing.  Especially the second one.

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The cartoon-esque zoom on John Goodman's wrestling ring before he beat the shit out of the ninja was fuck awesome
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Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 05:04:05 AM
More like a NON-ja!  Terrible for what passes as a ninja these days!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 02:24:53 PM
Glad to see you joined the right team, Whitey, and loved it. Like you have said, I have said, and others have said: best summer movie in ages.

I predict some flip flopping amongst the TVC coven now that he has stated he loved it.  :lol
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 18, 2008, 03:54:45 PM
Yep, saw it with brandonh83. FUCKING INCREDIBLE. One of the best summer blockbusters ever.

The last race sequence made my brain want to shut down from awesome overload. It got to the point where my bowels tried to empty, then it ended. Completely amazing film on all levels.

More proof that movie critics are for the most parts old farts who can't just sit down and enjoy an amazing film of great.


PS: It will be hard for Indy to top this. You heard it here first from the Indy IV Defense Force
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: bud on May 18, 2008, 03:57:12 PM
you're just saying that because you're scared of brandon!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 18, 2008, 03:57:40 PM
More proof that movie critics are for the most parts old farts who can't just sit down and enjoy an amazing film of great.

That was the impression I came away with as well. Most critics just seem to be cynics who can't enjoy something fun that doesn't try to be deep.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 18, 2008, 04:03:51 PM
you're just saying that because you're scared of brandon!

Oh no. Believe me, we disagree on several films. For example, he loves Goblet of Fire, while I tolerate it because David Tennant is in it.

I fully expected to hate Speed Racer and have Brandon give me shit all summer for not liking movies that embrace escapism. But no. Speed Racer is ridiculously awesome, and I can't believe that anyone could hate it.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: brandonh83 on May 18, 2008, 04:06:33 PM
For example, he loves Goblet of Fire, while I tolerate it because David Tennant is in it.

(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3710/battersupgifai8.gif)
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 04:07:36 PM
All that remains now is for Juice to chime in on the love-fest.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 18, 2008, 04:13:34 PM
More proof I loved it: Brandon just called me to bitch about my Goblet of Fire comment.

I was obviously joking. But he knows Goblet of Fire isn't one of my favorite Harry Potter films.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 04:15:59 PM
It was so obvious but I still got misty-eyed over the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Racer X really is Rex reveal.  :lol Movie brought out the softie in me
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Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: brandonh83 on May 18, 2008, 04:16:42 PM
I was obviously joking.

Bullshit.

It was so obvious but I still got misty-eyed over the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Racer X really is Rex reveal.  :lol Movie brought out the softie in me
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Same but I got in a knot more during the flashback dialogue near the end of the race. DAMN.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
You mean when we hear all the quotes from different characters throughout the movie again, to some seriously fracking incredible score from Giacchino? Yeah, that rocked too.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 04:28:54 PM
You mean when we hear all the quotes from different characters throughout the movie again, to some seriously fracking incredible score from Giacchino? Yeah, that rocked too.

Yeah, that part was really effective, and I usually roll my eyes at stuff like that.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: brandonh83 on May 18, 2008, 04:29:29 PM
You mean when we hear all the quotes from different characters throughout the movie again, to some seriously fracking incredible score from Giacchino? Yeah, that rocked too.

Uh huh. Gives me chills.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
And the way the race actually ends, with no music at first and how Hirsch completely sells the fact that Speed can't believe he made it, and won on top of it all, and the sound effects from the booming cameras coming from the crowd... dear god almighty.
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Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Christopher on May 18, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
What I didn't like was the weird style of it, but otherwise the characters and story were just so much fun!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 04:59:15 PM
I might go see it again to try and pick up my spirts.  The music with the flashbacks at the Grand Prix with the "Star Child" ending was superb, as was the sad Racer X reveal music
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 05:54:27 PM
I got tickets to see it IMAX style next weekend :bow
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2008, 06:03:41 PM
I got tickets to see it IMAX style next weekend :bow

Man, just imagine if they had made this movie in IMAX 3D. Mind. Blown.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 18, 2008, 07:42:06 PM
alas
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 18, 2008, 08:25:10 PM
You mean when we hear all the quotes from different characters throughout the movie again, to some seriously fracking incredible score from Giacchino? Yeah, that rocked too.

Best part of the film. Then, he crosses the finish line to kaleidescopic visuals from awesomeville.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2008, 08:35:49 PM
If only evilbore represented America.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 18, 2008, 08:59:25 PM
EB represents the only part of America that matters.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 09:25:51 PM
I generally dont care if people hate movies I love, but there are some people on GAF Id like to grab ahold of and smack around a bit. So much hatred when I know for a fact many havent even watched the damn thing.

Anyways, Im going again this week for sure, as I fear SR has maybe 2 weeks TOPS left in theatres.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 18, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
I generally dont care if people hate movies I love, but there are some people on GAF Id like to grab ahold of and smack around a bit. So much hatred when I know for a fact many havent even watched the damn thing.

Ami *cough* "I only saw half the movie" *snort* r0x
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 18, 2008, 09:46:05 PM
Yeah, what the fuck is that shit about?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Enl on May 18, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
I really don't know. I would've expected a druggie like him to have sprayed his seamen all over the screen by the time the opening title was over. I guess the Earthbound lover isn't into cartoony characters, colorful set pieces, and not-so-uber-realistic CGI.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 11:02:38 PM
If someone says they walked out of a movie, they're most likely full of shit.  Who the fuck walks out of movies?  I've seen some terrible things, but nothing so terrible that I walked out.  Well, except Broken Social Scene live.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 18, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
I would have walked out of Stuck on You if I hadn't been there with friends. They apparently liked it, but I never wanted to get out of a theater so bad in my life, and I've seen some stinkers.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mupepe on May 18, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
If someone says they walked out of a movie, they're most likely full of shit.  Who the fuck walks out of movies?  I've seen some terrible things, but nothing so terrible that I walked out.  Well, except Broken Social Scene live.
I have.  But I got in for free since friends that worked there would let me in.

Just got back from seeing Speed Racer.

Racing scenes and fight scenes were pretty incredible.  Long as balls though and I think there was some stuff they could have cut.  But I really loved the visual style.  Just wowowowowow.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: border on May 18, 2008, 11:54:16 PM
Do you guys really think the whole movie is that incredible?  Like, beyond the races?  I can see myself owning the BD, but fast-forwarding through all the stuff at Royleton Motors and the Spritle/ChimChim hijinks.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: TVC15 on May 18, 2008, 11:58:02 PM
Do you guys really think the whole movie is that incredible?  Like, beyond the races?  I can see myself owning the BD, but fast-forwarding through all the stuff at Royleton Motors and the Spritle/ChimChim hijinks.

Spritle and Chim Chim sneaking into Royalton was the only part I didn't really like.  I liked all the other Royalton motor stuff.  Roger Allam rocks.  I would pay money to have him yell at me.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 19, 2008, 12:25:13 AM
Do you guys really think the whole movie is that incredible?  Like, beyond the races?  I can see myself owning the BD, but fast-forwarding through all the stuff at Royleton Motors and the Spritle/ChimChim hijinks.

Yes, I do, aside from too much of the little brother. I could have done with less of him.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mupepe on May 19, 2008, 12:27:50 AM
I couldn't believe that the people sitting next to me were surprised when
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Racer X turned out to be Rex.
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  I mean really.  Did they not sit there and even think about his name for half a second?  smfh
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 19, 2008, 03:14:13 AM
I couldn't believe that the people sitting next to me were surprised when
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Racer X turned out to be Rex.
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  I mean really.  Did they not sit there and even think about his name for half a second?  smfh

Obviously not fans of the TV series, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 19, 2008, 03:18:27 AM
The Racer X reveal with the music was awesome.

I saw a family walk out of my screening, as well.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 19, 2008, 03:21:33 AM
The Racer X reveal with the music was awesome.

I saw a family walk out of my screening, as well.

Some people are just stupid and just don't get great films.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 19, 2008, 04:09:55 AM
I didn't notice any walkouts and there was actually a fairly decent sized crowd when I went and saw it Saturday after opening day.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 19, 2008, 05:18:17 AM
so what do y'all think the Ws will/should do next?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on May 19, 2008, 07:19:54 AM
so what do y'all think the Ws will/should do next?

i'd love to see them do something smaller, on the scale of Bound.  That was a great film
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mupepe on May 19, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
I couldn't believe that the people sitting next to me were surprised when
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Racer X turned out to be Rex.
[close]
  I mean really.  Did they not sit there and even think about his name for half a second?  smfh

Obviously not fans of the TV series, that's for sure.
Well obviously, but I was with a few people who had never seen the TV show but got it as soon as they heard the name Racer X.  I mean, how daft can you be???

I saw a few walkouts and there weren't that many people to begin with :'(
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: lordmaji on May 19, 2008, 10:29:13 AM
It looks like shit to me.  :o :maf
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on May 19, 2008, 11:20:41 AM
It looks like shit to me.  :o :maf

Watching the trailers and watching the film are two different things.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on May 19, 2008, 05:57:15 PM
Got my second and final theatrical viewing in today. Even more brilliant the second time! Within the realm of summer popcorn movies, this is quickly rising up the charts on my overall list.

One thing I noticed this time that I missed the first time which I thought was a neat touch was near the beginning, when Trixie and Speed meet for the first time. When Speed is driving his little scooter and they make eye contact, the background behind each of them is sort of blurred out, but its actually not just blurred, but hundreds of blurry little hearts.

Now, bring on the Blu Ray!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Rman on May 30, 2008, 10:52:51 PM
Sorry for the bump.  But I had chime in.  I just came from theatre and boy I was pretty impressed.  I honestly thought this was going to be trash when I first saw the trailer, but color me impressed--I saw it on the recommendation from you guys actually.  The movie was well paced, and the acting was strong as well.  :heart Emile Hirsh :heart  And the visual effects were very impressive as well.  In the end, I had a good time.  Shame the flick bombed.  Anyone looking for a fun summer flick should definitely try to catch this before itstout of the theaters.  This is definitely one that benefits from the big screen treatment.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mandark on July 06, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
Ohmigod ohmigod soooooooo good.

I credit EB with making me see it on IMAX instead of waiting for DVD.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Rman on July 06, 2008, 09:43:41 PM
Its still in theatres?
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mandark on July 06, 2008, 10:05:30 PM
It's probably in second run theatres, if such a thing exists.  I just caught it on the last day of its run at a nearby IMAX.

Man, it's good.  The kid is a bit annoying and some of the actors have nothing to do, but I love me some John Goodman and I thought Christopher Hitchens did really well as the villain.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2008, 10:05:41 PM
I think it's in IMAX 'till The Dark Knight is released.  That's the only big IMAX release I can think of that would make theatres dump it.  But - yeah - Speed Racer is going to be a cult classic.

Since I never saw Indiana Jones, this has been the most satisfying summer blockbuster season for me in ages (Iron Man, Speed Racer, The Incredible Hulk, Wall-E, Wanted) and I haven't seen The Dark Knight or Hellboy II, yet!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 06, 2008, 10:17:53 PM
I think it's in IMAX 'till The Dark Knight is released.  That's the only big IMAX release I can think of that would make theatres dump it.

Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D just came out.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mandark on July 06, 2008, 10:28:40 PM
Kung Fu Panda actually replaced Speed Racer at a bunch of IMAX theatres which is not an awful choice.

But Speed Racer seems like the most appropriate IMAX movie ever.  Never before have the epilepsy warnings seem so justified!
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2008, 11:01:04 PM
I really wondered if people got seizures.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 06, 2008, 11:14:27 PM
I really wondered if people got seizures.

When Speed finishes the race at the end, it was like my brain was slapped in the face by a rainbow. So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that gave people seizures.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: JustinP on July 07, 2008, 12:15:31 AM
one of my favorite movies.  was so well done.  had so many fresh ideas.  it was exactly what i wanted from a speed racer movie. 
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2008, 12:29:38 AM
It's probably in second run theatres, if such a thing exists.

It's at a second run theater in Seattle, I plan on seeing it tomorrow for $2.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on July 07, 2008, 09:50:14 AM
7 months into 2008, it remains the best movie of the year so far. Can't wait for the BD release. Since it was out in May, and bombed so hard, Im hoping for an early September release.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: DJ_Tet on July 07, 2008, 10:58:35 AM
It's going to look amazing in hd, I can't wait.

Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on July 07, 2008, 03:44:02 PM
(http://info.detnews.com/pix/paynecartoons/toons/cartoonSmartInterstate071707.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on July 08, 2008, 03:09:54 PM
Just for clarification, since I avoided the Indy IV threads because of mass pre-viewing trolling and biased viewing:

I saw Indy IV

I liked it.

Speed Racer is still a lot fucking better on about every level.

GO SPEED RACER GOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 15, 2008, 04:31:52 AM
September 16th
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2084/speedracervk8.jpg)
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on July 15, 2008, 07:16:27 AM
yay
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on July 15, 2008, 10:03:27 AM
Woohoo my September prediction was on the money.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on September 18, 2008, 10:45:02 AM
So, the rewatch verdict:

It still kick ass.

Spridle and Chim Chim are annoying as hell

They still don't keep the movie from being fuck awesome.

By the way, the Blu-ray transfer..... jesus titty fucking christ.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on September 18, 2008, 10:47:45 AM
this film and the stills makes me wish i had a bluray player with a good set up

alas.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Reb on September 18, 2008, 10:49:40 AM
this film and the stills makes me wish i had a bluray player with a good set up

alas.

I highly doubt a bluray player will get you laid.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Eric P on September 18, 2008, 10:51:22 AM
i don't need a bluray player to get laid

i just need $5 for the rock
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Solo on September 18, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
The BD rocks.
Title: Re: Speed Racer: the film
Post by: Bloodwake on September 18, 2008, 11:37:20 AM
The BD rocks.

This may be an understatement.

It may be the best Blu-ray in terms of picture quality that I own.

From beginning to end, the saturated colors and the amazing editing make this a film you can't tear you eyes away from.