Hillary cites RFK assassination in explaining why she's still in racehttp://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/Hillary_cites_RFK_assasination_in_explaining_why_shes_still_in_race.html
Hillary Clinton today cited the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy during the 1968 presidential campaign to explain why she was remaining in the race despite long odds.
"We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California," Clinton told the editorial board of a South Dakota newspaper. " I don't understand it," Clinton added, alluding to the calls for her to quit.
Clinton made the statement after pointing out that her husband didn't lock up the nomination until June of 1992, trying to point out that, by past history, it's not late in the campaign.
But Barack Obama received Secret Service protection one year ago this month, the earliest ever in presidential history, after reports of threats.
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement that “Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."
Clinton's made the comment to the Argus Leader newspaper in Sioux Falls, S.D.
QuoteHillary cites RFK assassination in explaining why she's still in racehttp://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/Hillary_cites_RFK_assasination_in_explaining_why_shes_still_in_race.html
Hillary Clinton today cited the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy during the 1968 presidential campaign to explain why she was remaining in the race despite long odds.
"We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California," Clinton told the editorial board of a South Dakota newspaper. " I don't understand it," Clinton added, alluding to the calls for her to quit.
Clinton made the statement after pointing out that her husband didn't lock up the nomination until June of 1992, trying to point out that, by past history, it's not late in the campaign.
But Barack Obama received Secret Service protection one year ago this month, the earliest ever in presidential history, after reports of threats.
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement that “Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."
Clinton's made the comment to the Argus Leader newspaper in Sioux Falls, S.D.
Did she ever explain why she went from a barry goldwater supporter to a socialist?
to be fair, her point is that the 68 primary process went into June. She's not saying that she's in the race just in case Obama gets killed. Her comments were in responses that the race has gone on too long, so she merely cited examples of primaries that continued into June.
It's not IMO that she said something inherently offensive, it's just the inherent cluelessness re: making references to assassination when commenting on someone who is likely to be the nation's first Black President. This is a cluelessness that's apparently rampant in the halls of government nowadays...
And as a socialist, please don't try to associate filth like Hillary Clinton with my people.:lol :lol :lol
And as a socialist, please don't try to associate filth like Hillary Clinton with my people.
:lol :lol :lol
Don't act like you wouldn't vote for her.
Do you plan on voting for Bob Barr in November, or will you cast your vote for McCain just to make sure the black guy doesn't get into the White House?
Do you plan on voting for Bob Barr in November, or will you cast your vote for McCain just to make sure the black guy doesn't get into the White House?
Skin color doesn't matter to me.
Tell me what the big differences are between obama and hillary.
Most of the differences are differences of character, her platform is the essentially the same platform obama is running on, which was borrowed from edwards anyway. Ultimately being president isnt just about 'the issues', but how the person would adapt when their agenda doesnt cover something. Hillary, since going negative, has just been embarassing.
Do you plan on voting for Bob Barr in November, or will you cast your vote for McCain just to make sure the black guy doesn't get into the White House?
Skin color doesn't matter to me.
Tell me what the big differences are between obama and hillary.
For me it begins and ends with Hillary's association with the DLC, the free trade lovin', big business favoring wing of the party. Which makes her makeover into a "Champion of the Working Folk" just absolutely bullshit.
It is what it is. Never been more apparent than the last 8 years
oh gtfo foc. personality =/= values. Hillary has totally embarrassed herself during this election, from the gas tax to the obliterate comment.
Do you plan on voting for Bob Barr in November, or will you cast your vote for McCain just to make sure the black guy doesn't get into the White House?
Skin color doesn't matter to me.
Tell me what the big differences are between obama and hillary.
For me it begins and ends with Hillary's association with the DLC, the free trade lovin', big business favoring wing of the party. Which makes her makeover into a "Champion of the Working Folk" just absolutely bullshit.
So, I take it your not a fan of Bill Clinton either?
People are going gaga for Obama here?(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Triumph/obamapointstaketwo.jpg)
You know, of all the people who could say someone is going "gaga" over a Presidential candidate, I really think you should be the absolute LAST one to do so, FoC.I'm not the one basing my opinion on charisma and empty words like Change and hope. Hillary and Obama are like almost identical and would do very similar things and yet you loathe one and suck the others cock.
Triumph at least has a verifiable history as a cranky leftist.
You weren't a libertarian until this election.
foc, as a dogmatic libertarian, cannot separate the agent from the platform. and he calls us fools for charisma!
foc, as a dogmatic libertarian, cannot separate the agent from the platform. and he calls us fools for charisma!
foc, as a dogmatic libertarian, cannot separate the agent from the platform. and he calls us fools for charisma!
Sure I can, I just dont understand how someone can be so in love with one person and hate another when they are almost the same damn thing. All of you would vote for hillary if she won. Dont even try to deny it.
that's the very image of "states' rights"No it's not the constitution is.
hillary and obama have similar platforms, but which do i think will actually hew to it in office? not hillary.
that's the very image of "states' rights"No it's not the constitution is.
that's the very image of "states' rights"No it's not the constitution is.
how amazingly dense are you
that's the very image of "states' rights"No it's not the constitution is.
how amazingly dense are you
I just told you a true story about tearing down a david duke sign and yet you gloss right over it, probably still thinking I'm a racist. That's pretty dense in my opinion.
i am pointing out that ron paul and david duke have argued very similar platforms -- in fact, your boy has been endorsed by david duke. you stupidly asked how two folks could have the same platform yet could elicit opposite reactions in supporters of that platform.
ron paul. david duke. if david duke picked up the nomination, would you vote for him?
oh gtfo foc. personality =/= values. Hillary has totally embarrassed herself during this election, from the gas tax to the obliterate comment.
I'm agreeing with you. All the hate for hillary seems to be her personality, the difference in policy is marginal at best. And yet we have evilbore shitcans going gaga over the Obama and calling Hillary the worst thing ever.
Thanks, TVC posts a legitimate response to my question.
As far Obama and getting involved with special interest groups, has his past indicated anything?
Triumph: Honestly, I think the Clintons are non-radical progressives who fought their political battles over a couple decades when the electorate was center-right and a Democratic candidate had to do certain things to overcome that handicap. Talk tough on foreign policy, actively distance yourself from the unpopular parts of the Dem coalition (hippies and angry darkies), stay away from the culture wars and only attempt very incremental gains.
Things are shifting to the left now and they're slow to recognize it. But at least they're not kicking and screaming like Joe Lieberman.spoiler (click to show/hide)Of course maybe she's just spent so much time around the usual beltway power brokers that she just got comfortable with it and accepts corporatism as the natural state of things. Maybe she really dislikes the activist wing of the Dems on the merits (like her recent quote about MoveOn disagreeing with her foreign policy). I like the first version better, though. I'm a romantic soul.[close]
He passed an ethics reform bill in the Illinois legislature and one in the US Senate. The one he passed in the Senate was stronger than the Democratic leadership wanted. They tried to gut a couple of the provisions, but Obama and some allies made a stink and got them back in.
The Audacity of Hope apparently spends a lot of time discussing how small, concentrated interest groups warp the political process. I'd read it, but I'm dead set against paying money for a glorified campaign mailer.
Thanks, TVC posts a legitimate response to my question.
As far Obama and getting involved with special interest groups, has his past indicated anything?
Why dont you exercise your weak brain at the library you lazy fuck.
People have told me to do that, but I don't want to listen to the audiobook, lest his baritone make everything sound 40% wiser than it really is. I'm trying to evaluate this objectively, dammit.
People have told me to do that, but I don't want to listen to the audiobook, lest his baritone make everything sound 40% wiser than it really is. I'm trying to evaluate this objectively, dammit.
I can put my copy of the audiobook in Soundforge and make his voice a few octaves higher if that will help. He will sound like a black chipmunk.
i'd listen to anything* read to me in a helium voice
* -- anything other than atlus shrugged, that is
As far Obama and getting involved with special interest groups, has his past indicated anything?
In terms of trust re: Hillary and her policy proposals, why are they less trustworthy than those coming from an Obama campaign which on numerous occasions has specifically stated you can't hold the candidate to his campaign proposals?
How is this argument not a completely subjective regurgitation of right-wing talking points, while at the same time giving Obama a pass on those same points (inc being politically uncourageous, working with Republicans, etc)?
an Obama campaign which on numerous occasions has specifically stated you can't hold the candidate to his campaign proposals?
Why give a list when on GAF you've already agreed with the proposition? I'd give you that link, but I was banned for posting on a monday morning..
How has this not caused a stir amongst the Sharpton/Jackson groupies?
.Why give a list when on GAF you've already agreed with the proposition? I'd give you that link, but I was banned for posting on a monday morning..
You deny then, that: a) the Obama campaign has suggested this; b) you agreed with the proposition?
List plz?
yeah, it's crazy because the mistake was so serious she actually apologized
then she thought better of it and is backpedaling to her normal attack pattern
yeah, it's crazy because the mistake was so serious she actually apologized
then she thought better of it and is backpedaling to her normal attack pattern
no
she didn't apologize
she apologized if we got upset at her comments, she did not apologize for the comments themselves
she did that headfake apology juke