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Title: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2008, 11:34:20 AM
Apparently, this got confirmed as fact by CHUD and AICN.  CAUTION: SPOILERS.  DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT THE HIP, EDGY ENDING RUINED FOR YOU.

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The main robot foil in Terminator 4 is a cyborg named Marcus.  At the end of the movie, John Connor fights a T800 and loses, so top ranking resistance leaders come up with the idea to transplant John Connor's skin over the Marcus terminator to give the resistance a reason to keep fighting.  John Connor is a Terminator!
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This is really like a sequel too much.  They're planning two more, as well.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Tauntaun on June 03, 2008, 11:35:32 AM
uh.....I......no  :-\
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Mupepe on June 03, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
LOL

i can't self terminate

no, but i can!

LOL
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2008, 11:43:40 AM
Just pretend anything not made by Cameron is a well-financed fanfic movie.

...That's what I did in my head for the Star Wars prequels. I want to have an intervention to separate George Lucas from that license.

OTOH, I like Terminator 3's dark ending.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Tauntaun on June 03, 2008, 11:44:45 AM
Willco you are ruining my LIFE!  This better be a joke.  :'(
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2008, 12:01:34 PM
It's not.

I don't get the Terminator 3 hate.  I really don't put the Cameron films on a pedestal.  Terminator 2 is a great action flick, but the original has aged pretty horribly and has some awful acting to boot.  Terminator 3 was pretty damn fun.  It's not as good as the second one, but it's in the ballpark between the two Cameron entries.

This just sounds like poop.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: siamesedreamer on June 03, 2008, 12:19:13 PM
So, is T4 going to be set in the future?
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on June 03, 2008, 12:47:40 PM
What. The. Fuck.  :-\
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Eric P on June 03, 2008, 12:52:36 PM
ha ha.


oh man
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 03, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
yeah, this sounds pretty stupid, but i lol at the people who give themselves aneurysms over stuff like this "not being canon" or "ruining the timeline" as if those "rules" weren't broken within the running time of the very first movie
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 03, 2008, 02:06:46 PM
I liked Term 3 tons, fuk haters
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Tauntaun on June 03, 2008, 02:10:00 PM
yeah, this sounds pretty stupid, but i lol at the people who give themselves aneurysms over stuff like this "not being canon" or "ruining the timeline" as if those "rules" weren't broken within the running time of the very first movie

The only thing that bugs me about the first movie is that

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kyle is john's dad, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN as we learned in Back To The Future 2. :tophat
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Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 03, 2008, 02:12:26 PM
I liked Term 3 tons, fuk haters

how is the blu ray?  I sold my hd dvd of it.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Mupepe on June 03, 2008, 02:13:48 PM
I liked Term 3 tons, fuk haters

how is the blu ray?  I sold my hd dvd of it.
unfulfilling honestly.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 03, 2008, 02:17:58 PM
Both T2 and T3 are uneven in quality :( basically if its not WB/Sony/Disney I expect a kinda meh transfer
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Mupepe on June 03, 2008, 02:25:56 PM
T2 goes from omfg incredible to this looks like an alright dvd.

nights on the BR of T2 actually look better than days in my opinon
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: bengraven on June 03, 2008, 07:09:57 PM
Just pretend anything not made by Cameron is a well-financed fanfic movie.

Same thing I feel about Xmen 3.

And the Star Wars EU.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
Just pretend anything not made by Cameron is a well-financed fanfic movie.

Same thing I feel about Xmen 3.

And the Star Wars EU.

Actually, to dork out for a moment, Lucas doesn't consider that the EU or novels or anything is "canon" to Star Wars; he only counts the six films. I don't know about the animated series or upcoming live action TV show, but Splinter of the Minds Eye and all the Zahn books are not canon, while midichlorians and Hayden Christianson's "Nooooooo!" are. Sad.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2008, 09:01:39 PM
Just pretend anything not made by Cameron is a well-financed fanfic movie.

Same thing I feel about Xmen 3.

And the Star Wars EU.

Actually, to dork out for a moment, Lucas doesn't consider that the EU or novels or anything is "canon" to Star Wars; he only counts the six films. I don't know about the animated series or upcoming live action TV show, but Splinter of the Minds Eye and all the Zahn books are not canon, while midichlorians and Hayden Christianson's "Nooooooo!" are. Sad.

It goes a bit deeper than that:

G (George Lucas) canon is absolute canon. This category includes the six films, the deleted scenes from the films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon outranks all other forms of canon.

C (continuity) canon refers to the main body of EU work, and is the next most authoritative level of canon. All material published under the Star Wars label that doesn't fall into either G, S, or N canon is C canon and is considered authoritative as long as it isn't contradicted by G canon.

S (secondary) canon refers to older, less accurate, or less coherent EU works, which would not ordinarily fit in the main continuity of G and C canon. For example, this includes the popular online roleplaying game Star Wars Galaxies, and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N continuity material is also known as "non-canon" or "non-continuity" material. What-if stories (such as those published under the Infinities label) and anything else that cannot at all fit into continuity is placed into this category. "N-continuity" is not considered canon.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: Bildi on June 03, 2008, 09:09:33 PM
T3 was the only Terminator movie I really liked.  And I REALLY liked it.  I think part of it is because I don't really like Linda Hamilton or the kid who plays John Connor in T2. 

T3 didn't take itself too seriously plus it has the most awesome action scene around with the crane truck (sadly partially ruined with the blatant CG crash at the end).

If that really is the plotline for T4, that's fairly distinguished mentally-challenged.  But in isolation maybe it will be a fun movie.
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 03, 2008, 09:20:34 PM
MARCUS PHOENIX

EAT SHIT AND DIE
Title: Re: McG's Terminator 4 totally fucks with mythos, Cameron am crying on keyboard
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2008, 10:55:42 PM
Just pretend anything not made by Cameron is a well-financed fanfic movie.

Same thing I feel about Xmen 3.

And the Star Wars EU.

Actually, to dork out for a moment, Lucas doesn't consider that the EU or novels or anything is "canon" to Star Wars; he only counts the six films. I don't know about the animated series or upcoming live action TV show, but Splinter of the Minds Eye and all the Zahn books are not canon, while midichlorians and Hayden Christianson's "Nooooooo!" are. Sad.

It goes a bit deeper than that:

G (George Lucas) canon is absolute canon. This category includes the six films, the deleted scenes from the films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon outranks all other forms of canon.

C (continuity) canon refers to the main body of EU work, and is the next most authoritative level of canon. All material published under the Star Wars label that doesn't fall into either G, S, or N canon is C canon and is considered authoritative as long as it isn't contradicted by G canon.

S (secondary) canon refers to older, less accurate, or less coherent EU works, which would not ordinarily fit in the main continuity of G and C canon. For example, this includes the popular online roleplaying game Star Wars Galaxies, and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N continuity material is also known as "non-canon" or "non-continuity" material. What-if stories (such as those published under the Infinities label) and anything else that cannot at all fit into continuity is placed into this category. "N-continuity" is not considered canon.


Good christ. That's stunningly lame.