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Title: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 01:28:58 AM
Inspired by my old .Hack marathon thread (yes I know I didnt finish GU :/)- I have decided to start reading again, for real. So I am taking it easy with some entry level fantasy, an old favorite. From there I will ramp it up a bit.

The Riftwar Saga

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Completed

I like this book, Magician Master is probably the best half of the Magician novel. It was split into two when Feist wanted to do the author's preferred edition, which is a much more complete telling anyway. This book is mired is setting characters, the general place, all that crap, but near the end you start seeing the fast moving action/adventure that most fantasy readers are even here for. The characters while not as complex as say GG Martin's characters, are likeable or dislikable in the same way that Steven Erikson writes his characters. The magic system in Feist books exists in a space between the lack of complexity of GG Martins books and the extreme complexity of Eriksons stuff. Most of all, Feists stuff is light and moves fast. People who like to skim books can often skim without fear of missing anything super important as Feist is extremely predictable. People may view this as a knock against his work, but I like to think of his stuff as a comfortable pair of shoes. You probably won't wear them out in public but whenever youre alone you want to put them on.

The Magician book is a strange contrast with basically everything else he has written as the book (or books depending on edition) is just really innocent for a fantasy book. Sure there's killing and magic, but it never gets NEARLY as dire as say...Rage of a Demon King in the Serpent War Saga or even A Darkness at Sethanon which is later in the Riftwar Saga.

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Completed

I've never really figured out if I liked Apprentice or Master more. Master has a lot of the otherworld stuff that served as the backbone for the 'Daughter of the Empire' series, but frankly, ive always found his attempt to create a warlike political party kinda overcomplicated n boring. He kinda just created The Empire from the Japanese and Romans really, then made it all wacky with giant ant people things. Apprentice does a great job with its pacing while Master makes leaps and bounds. The result is Feist spending time trying to 'plug the holes' with Legends of the Riftwar and Riftwar Legacy series. I wish he had more crap with the dwarves in Master as well. There was a lot of focus on the elves and thats neat n all but dwarves drink a lot and fight while doing so.

Anyway, while the rift war is over, the riftwar SAGA is not. On to Silverthorn!

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Completed

The shortest of the Riftwar books, Silverthorn serves as a bridge between the major conflicts. The story moves fast and at several points forgoes a lot of 'travel time' that feist seem to enjoy using for character development in the past. This is fine because the book reads fast, and its fun. The cast in Silverthorn is composed of pretty much all of my favorite characters. Jimmy for example, the badass thief, is in these last two books a lot. I always liked reading any chapter with Amos or Jimmy because they were just entertaining. Pug is seriously dire and Thomas is always removed in this later books.

Also, Feist does borrow from lotr in spots. I mean, right down to a few plot devices. I also always found it funny how Pug is this master magician, but sometimes it takes like 5 people to speculate something that is fairly obvious. How can people be so smart and so dumb at the same time? ;) Oh well, on to A DARKNESS AT SETHANON!

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Legends of the Riftwar

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The Riftwar Legacy

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Sons of Krondor

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The Serpent War Saga

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The Conclave of Shadows

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The Darkwar Saga

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Im skipping the Empire books
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 09, 2008, 07:48:50 AM
i hear you

i'm currently tearing through a ton of Fritz Leiber

in the past week it's been The Wanderer, some of the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories and I'm currently reading "You're All Alone" which is EXCELLENT post war metropolitan paranoia fantasy.

Basically, it's like the Matrix.  A guy discovers that the city of Chicago is essentially an unknowable machine, and all the people in it are cogs who play their parts.  There are a few people who know the truth and use it to act out their dreams and to act on their impulses but ultimately you have to avoid the men in black hats.  It hasn't said why but they are seen carrying a woman who is possibly a corpse off.

it's VERY short, like 100 pages, and I managed to read most of it waiting for zones to load in Conan.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 09:58:25 AM
ooh, short story, ill keep that one on my list
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 09, 2008, 10:07:04 AM
if you want i'll send it to you when i'm done

it cost me like $3 in shipping and it's long out of print so it's not a great financial loss.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 10:55:20 AM
ill pm you my addy later today, thx!
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 09, 2008, 11:34:06 AM
i'm re-reading all the thomas covenant books. angst-o-rama!
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 09, 2008, 11:35:45 AM
Riftwar Saga/Legacy was a great read, some of my favorite fantasy books. I think I like Legacy a little bit more, what with Squire Locklear and Jimmy the Hand.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
Serpent War Saga is REALLY good after the Merchant Prince, and hell Shadow of a Dark Queen is pretty awesome too, but god DAMN Merchant Prince is boring
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 09, 2008, 11:52:41 AM
oh my friend is moving and so he gave me the first Black Company book

i'm kind of curious about it but not really pressed

i'm spending most of my time googling for long out of print Fritz Lieber books.  I'm amazed that the only thing consistently in print is those damn series fantasy stories he did.  their good, but it's such a small portion of what he wrote
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 11:53:37 AM
Im probably going to move to Steven Erikson's stuff after Feist, moves about as fast but is a way heavier read. Then maybe GG Martin again..I dunno
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2008, 12:08:30 PM
Martin :(

Waiting for ADWD is going to be a bitch if it doesn't come out this year. Martin has said he's gotta finish it before the end of June because he's attending conferences throughout the rest of the summer.
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24 May Update:
After a bout of illness, GRRM confirmed that he is still working on ADWD and is now somewhat pessimistic about meeting his end-of-June deadline for finishing the novel. Surprisingly, he confirmed in the same post that Sansa will have a chapter in ADWD, which was previously not known.
:-\

Bantam Dell cover blurb for ADWD:
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In the aftermath of a colossal battle, the future of the Seven Kingdoms hangs in the balance once again-beset by newly emerging threats from every direction. In the east, Daenerys Targaryen, the last scion of House Targaryen, rules with her three dragons as queen of a city built on dust and death. But Daenerys has three times three thousand enemies, and many have set out to find her. Yet, as they gather, one young man embarks upon his own quest for the queen, with an entirely different goal in mind. To the north lies the mammoth wall of ice and stone-a structure only as strong as those guarding it. There, Jon Snow, 998th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, will face his greatest challenge yet. For he has powerful foes, not only within the Watch, but also beyond, in the land of the creatures of ice. And from all corners, bitter conflicts soon re-ignite, intimate betrayals are perpetrated, and a grand cast of outlaws and priests, soldiers and skinchangers, nobles and slaves, will face seemingly insurmountable obstacles. Some will fail, others will grow in the strength of darkness. But in a time of rising restlessness, the tides of destiny and politics will lead inevitably to the greatest dance of all...
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Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 09, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
I remember liking how the crazy Valheru stuff gradually developed in the background over the course of the 3/4 books.  Didn't it basically have the same ending as
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Final Fantasy 7
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?  I haven't read it since I was 12 though, no idea what I'd think now.  Everything after Sethanon I looked at seemed superfluous.

Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 09, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
that Lieber sounds awesome

I'm reading The Etched City right now; good, but 1/3 in I don't know what the "plot" is, really.

tracking down out-of-print books is awesome, it makes you feel like some kind of genre archeologist. reading stuff you can buy at the bookstore is so bourgeoise!
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
Conclave of Shadows kinda sucked, but ive heard Darkwar > Conclave so we'll see. The Daughter of the Empire books were a little too complicated with all the strange politics. The books about Arutha's sons were ok, but kind of filler-ish, like Conclave seemed.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Vizzys on June 09, 2008, 06:06:27 PM
is this a what are you reading kinda thread? I just finished reading all the books I got recently

overall i think the trilogy "the notebook, the proof and the third lie" was the best I read. Maybe even the best
books I have ever read.

a long ass review of sorts:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
"the notebook" is about two nameless twins left by their mother at the start of ww2, forced to live in poverty with
their grandmother who constantly insults them, her favorite phrase being "sons of a bitch". They do their best in
the situation they are giving and help people in the town to keep themselves alive. The reason its called a "the
notebook" is they have a secret notebook which they write their daily lives in, as proof of their existence. They
also use this notebook and various other books like a dictionary as their only means of education, studying every
day as much as possible. Throughout the book they also do what they call exercises, which are things to keep their
minds off the horrors of war and poverty, starving themselves, beating themselves, insulting themselves. Heres a
quote from the book:

Quote
Grandmother often hits us with her boney hand, a broom, or a damp cloth. She pulls our ears and grabs us by the hair.
Other people slap and kick us, we don't even know why.
The blows hurt and make us cry.
Falls, scratches, cuts, work, cold, and heat cause pain as well.
We decide to toughen our bodies so we can bear pain without crying.
We start by slapping and then punching one another. Seeing our swollen faces, Grandmother asks:
"Who did that to you?"
"We did, Grandmother."
"You had a fight? Why?"
"For nothing. Don't worry, Grandmother, it's only an exercise."
"An exercise? You're crazy! Oh well, if that's your idea of fun..."
We are naked. We hit one another with a belt. At each blow we say:
"It doesn't hurt."
We hit harder, harder and harder.
We put our hands over a flame. We cut our thighs, our arms, our chests with a knife and pour alcohol on our wounds.
Each time we say:
"It doesn't hurt."
After awhile, we really don't feel anything anymore. It's someone else who gets hurt, someone else who gets burned, someone else who gets cut, who feels pain.
We don't cry anymore.

also a pretty good of example of the style in which the book is written.

Overall its a pretty sad and perverse book. Lots of fucked up sex, death, betrayals, surprises. I would consider it a standalone masterpiece.

But the sequels are equally as engaging. Near the end of the first book the twins split up, one leaves the secluded and cutoff town they live in by the means of escape,I wont mention how but its a huge wtf.

Anyway "the proof" is about the twin who stays in the original town and his struggles to find meaning in his life without his twin brother. He becomes very sick for a while but he gets over it and one day comes across a women trying to drown her deformed baby in a river. he asks if she needs help with said task, but she eventually admits she can not do it and forgets the idea. he ivites her to stay at his home and help raise the child, he does this and the child ends up being the main focus of the story for a while.

Wont ruin that but its a pretty sad story overall.

"The Third Lie" is about the other twin brother name Claus and his life from when he made it over the fence to a new town, he is forced to sign a sheet of paper which contains three lies on it, the last one being he has a new fake name, Klaus. he gets the short end of the stick in terms of life...

Honestly the third lie confused the shit out of me, I need to reread it to make sense of it all. Overall the themes of the book seem to be that passion is the curse of mankind, and will only lead to death of you or the people you love.

Also theres this really cool side story about a guy called victor who ends up strangling his sister to death, oddly enough hes says the more provocative words in the whole book, words that echo the loudest and strike the most chords to me. Obviously it was wrong to kill his sister and he is insane, but he has a way with words.
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Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 09, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
I remember liking how the crazy Valheru stuff gradually developed in the background over the course of the 3/4 books.  Didn't it basically have the same ending as
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Final Fantasy 7
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?  I haven't read it since I was 12 though, no idea what I'd think now.  Everything after Sethanon I looked at seemed superfluous.



It was similar in ways, I could see where youre coming from there. Riftwar is THE series that defined Feist, which is why you see Legacy of the Riftwar and Legends of the Riftwar written afterwards. Hell, I think Feist would like to stick around that era a bit longer. The characters rocked and a lot of the appreciation for his first series was/is colored by nostalgia. When I started Serpent War the first time I was like MEH at the characters, but after the suckfest Rise of a Merchant Prince, Feist lived up to my expectations and then CRUSHED them all in one book 'Rage of a Demon King'.

THX Feist
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 06:11:17 PM
Quote from: Viz on June 09, 2008, 06:06:27 PM
is this a what are you reading kinda thread? I just finished reading all the books I got recently

overall i think the trilogy "the notebook, the proof and the third lie" was the best I read. Maybe even the best
books I have ever read.

a long ass review of sorts:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
"the notebook" is about two nameless twins left by their mother at the start of ww2, forced to live in poverty with
their grandmother who constantly insults them, her favorite phrase being "sons of a bitch". They do their best in
the situation they are giving and help people in the town to keep themselves alive. The reason its called a "the
notebook" is they have a secret notebook which they write their daily lives in, as proof of their existence. They
also use this notebook and various other books like a dictionary as their only means of education, studying every
day as much as possible. Throughout the book they also do what they call exercises, which are things to keep their
minds off the horrors of war and poverty, starving themselves, beating themselves, insulting themselves. Heres a
quote from the book:

Quote
Grandmother often hits us with her boney hand, a broom, or a damp cloth. She pulls our ears and grabs us by the hair.
Other people slap and kick us, we don't even know why.
The blows hurt and make us cry.
Falls, scratches, cuts, work, cold, and heat cause pain as well.
We decide to toughen our bodies so we can bear pain without crying.
We start by slapping and then punching one another. Seeing our swollen faces, Grandmother asks:
"Who did that to you?"
"We did, Grandmother."
"You had a fight? Why?"
"For nothing. Don't worry, Grandmother, it's only an exercise."
"An exercise? You're crazy! Oh well, if that's your idea of fun..."
We are naked. We hit one another with a belt. At each blow we say:
"It doesn't hurt."
We hit harder, harder and harder.
We put our hands over a flame. We cut our thighs, our arms, our chests with a knife and pour alcohol on our wounds.
Each time we say:
"It doesn't hurt."
After awhile, we really don't feel anything anymore. It's someone else who gets hurt, someone else who gets burned, someone else who gets cut, who feels pain.
We don't cry anymore.

also a pretty good of example of the style in which the book is written.

Overall its a pretty sad and perverse book. Lots of fucked up sex, death, betrayals, surprises. I would consider it a standalone masterpiece.

But the sequels are equally as engaging. Near the end of the first book the twins split up, one leaves the secluded and cutoff town they live in by the means of escape,I wont mention how but its a huge wtf.

Anyway "the proof" is about the twin who stays in the original town and his struggles to find meaning in his life without his twin brother. He becomes very sick for a while but he gets over it and one day comes across a women trying to drown her deformed baby in a river. he asks if she needs help with said task, but she eventually admits she can not do it and forgets the idea. he ivites her to stay at his home and help raise the child, he does this and the child ends up being the main focus of the story for a while.

Wont ruin that but its a pretty sad story overall.

"The Third Lie" is about the other twin brother name Claus and his life from when he made it over the fence to a new town, he is forced to sign a sheet of paper which contains three lies on it, the last one being he has a new fake name, Klaus. he gets the short end of the stick in terms of life...

Honestly the third lie confused the shit out of me, I need to reread it to make sense of it all. Overall the themes of the book seem to be that passion is the curse of mankind, and will only lead to death of you or the people you love.

Also theres this really cool side story about a guy called victor who ends up strangling his sister to death, oddly enough hes says the more provocative words in the whole book, words that echo the loudest and strike the most chords to me. Obviously it was wrong to kill his sister and he is insane, but he has a way with words.
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Yikes, ill keep those in mind when I want something dire!
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Vizzys on June 09, 2008, 06:12:29 PM
they do a lot of good, to a lot of people, very gray area people
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
God fuking damnit that was boring, it was Fantasy Economics meets DON JUAN meets WTF AM I DOIN I GOTTA BE A HERO! Rage and Shards totally made up for that mess tho.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 09, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 09, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
that Lieber sounds awesome

I'm reading The Etched City right now; good, but 1/3 in I don't know what the "plot" is, really.

tracking down out-of-print books is awesome, it makes you feel like some kind of genre archeologist. reading stuff you can buy at the bookstore is so bourgeoise!

IT IS!

maybe if you ask maf nicely, he will give it to you after he's finished.  i'll probably finish it tonight before bed.

we should do a book exchange.  each person who signs up gets a random name and address and ships a random book.

secret santa, but for nerds
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 14, 2008, 01:26:05 AM
I need to pm you my addy, ill try an make time in my busy schedule!
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 14, 2008, 01:26:27 AM
Etched City was AWESOME btw. finished it last night
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 14, 2008, 01:28:15 AM
I tore half way into king rat on trains tonight to go see Rear Window and grab dinner w/ a friend for her birthday.

King Rat is omfg awesome, but the DnB stuff is kind of wacky, and this is coming from a DnB fan.

i know WHY it's there, but at the same time it's just kind of eye rolling.

however, it's just the kind of fantasy i like.  urban, pastiche, gritty, realignment of common-myth concepts

hot hot hot shit.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 14, 2008, 01:44:14 AM
I heard King Rat wasn't so great. I loved Perdido Street and The Scar, but the former has lessened with time and the latter has risen.

Etched City is kinda like Perdido Street, but way better writing. It has a really awesome snowball fantasy effect, where for the first two thirds it's hardly fantasy at all. Not like Song of Ice and Fire... more subtle than that.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 14, 2008, 01:51:26 AM
i haven't read perdido

it's in my collection

but i haven't read it yet

just lots of his short stories
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 24, 2008, 02:25:17 AM
reading raiiiiiiiinbow - original post updated
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 24, 2008, 02:28:28 AM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 14, 2008, 01:44:14 AM
I heard King Rat wasn't so great. I loved Perdido Street and The Scar, but the former has lessened with time and the latter has risen.

Etched City is kinda like Perdido Street, but way better writing. It has a really awesome snowball fantasy effect, where for the first two thirds it's hardly fantasy at all. Not like Song of Ice and Fire... more subtle than that.

Can it be that you haven't read The Iron Council yet? ???
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 24, 2008, 02:30:16 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on June 09, 2008, 11:34:06 AM
i'm re-reading all the thomas covenant books. angst-o-rama!

Hey Prole, have you seen this?
http://www.fantasybedtimehour.com/

Stephen Donaldson himself shows up in one of the later episodes.  :lol
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Candyflip on June 24, 2008, 02:40:12 AM
I'm a little less than half way through Lolita. I am enjoying it so far, but I did skip a page or two at the beginning of Part 2. I was bored to tears with him
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listing every single location they visited and every sight they saw. "Fish hatcheries. Cliff dwellings. The mummy of a child. Always the same three old men, in hats and suspenders, idling away the summer afternoon under the trees.... A hazy blue view beyond railings on a mountain pass, and the backs of a family enjoying it." etc etc.
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I love Nabokov's prose
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 24, 2008, 02:45:36 AM
I'm so slacking on my reading for the summer.  I can't read fast enough...and I tend to read 3 pages at night immediately before bed before falling asleep, which means I'm dozing on the third page and have to re-read it the next day.  :(    I think I need to kill my internet...and ds...and ps3...and pc.  I'm going luddite.

oh, I'm reading Grotesque by Natsuo Kirino right now.  I love me a mystery.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 24, 2008, 03:11:20 AM
read at your desk, thats what I do. I fall asleep quick reading in bed too
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on June 24, 2008, 06:27:26 AM
Quote from: The Iconistrator on June 24, 2008, 03:11:20 AM
read at your desk, thats what I do. I fall asleep quick reading in bed too

did you want this leiber book or should i send it to patel?
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 24, 2008, 10:10:19 AM
send it to patel, im swamped. thanks for the offer tho
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Ganhyun on June 24, 2008, 10:26:34 AM
Feist is one of my more liked options to read when I have time.
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 01, 2008, 05:57:42 PM
I ended up grabbing these at the store the other day. I still won't pick up the Daughter of the Empire series. That shits confusing.

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Legends of the Riftwar JIMMY THE HAND is out in JULYYY. That's gonna rock. Finally some more gaps get filled in with ol Jimmy!

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Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: Eric P on July 01, 2008, 05:59:36 PM
Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 24, 2008, 02:28:28 AM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 14, 2008, 01:44:14 AM
I heard King Rat wasn't so great. I loved Perdido Street and The Scar, but the former has lessened with time and the latter has risen.

Etched City is kinda like Perdido Street, but way better writing. It has a really awesome snowball fantasy effect, where for the first two thirds it's hardly fantasy at all. Not like Song of Ice and Fire... more subtle than that.

Can it be that you haven't read The Iron Council yet? ???

i haven't actually

it's on my amazon wishlist
Title: Re: MAF's Reading Rainbow - Raymond E Feist
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 05, 2008, 02:36:32 AM
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Completed

The shortest of the Riftwar books, Silverthorn serves as a bridge between the major conflicts of the Riftwar. The story moves fast and at several points forgoes a lot of 'travel time' that feist seem to enjoy using for character development in the past. This is fine because the book reads fast, and its fun. The cast in Silverthorn is composed of pretty much all of my favorite characters. Jimmy for example, the badass thief, is in these last two books a lot. I always liked reading any chapter with Amos or Jimmy because they were just entertaining. Pug is seriously dire and Thomas is always removed in this later books.

Also, Feist does borrow from lotr in spots. I mean, right down to a few plot devices. I also always found it funny how Pug is this master magician, but sometimes it takes like 5 people to speculate something that is fairly obvious. How can people be so smart and so dumb at the same time? ;) Oh well, on to A DARKNESS AT SETHANON!