THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Van Cruncheon on June 10, 2008, 12:25:00 AM
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re4. i am actually sorta kinda enjoying it now that i don't hafta use the gamepube's godawful notched analog stick to aim, nor am i forced to play button twister with the shitty controls. it's like a little zombie shooting gallery every time i hit the b button. yay! dunno if it'll make the ashley sections any more palatable, but so far, i'm zoomin' right along, headshotting like a mofo.
man, though, talk about some stank ps2-grade image quality. ah well, i needed a little last-gen gaming to remind me how fuck awesome re5 -- note: NOT ON WII -- will be!
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Yeah, the aiming made an excellent game even better. The ashley sections are better as well now that you're a quick draw killing machine so she's never in any danger.
Also, I don't know what black magic they used with the quick knife attack but it always hit whatever I intended.
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it's not so much the shooting that made the ashley sections annoying, it's just that i have a major aversion to anything resembling an ai escort mission.
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Ah, no one should ever be faulted for feeling that way. Escort missions are one of the worst things in gaming period.
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Not even the Wii can ruin the best game of all time. But seriously, it is fuck awesome with the pointer.
:bow RE4 :bow2
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the downside is that it makes it a little easier. it was still nearly impossible for me to beat it on Pro though.
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You don't use the C-Stick to aim in the GC version. ???
EDIT: Besides, aiming with the IR isn't "waggle."
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oh that's right, because if they HAD let me aim with the c-stick I'D BE ABLE TO FUCKING STRAFE
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I dont know how much ill like RE5. The controler seems like a downgrade But the "Zomg weapons" Zomg Coverz" sounds like it will play more like Gears of War
Wonder if theres a roadie run too
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^what do you mean by cover? you can take cover behind walls in RE5?
oh that's right, because if they HAD let me aim with the c-stick I'D BE ABLE TO FUCKING STRAFE
99% of the time, you fight in long hallways so there's no reason to strafe.
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You don't use the C-Stick to aim in the GC version. ???
EDIT: Besides, aiming with the IR isn't "waggle."
(http://www.gamewad.com/ul/1325-550x-resident-evil-4-wii-edition-20070413010314309.jpg)
waggle waggle
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You don't use the C-Stick to aim in the GC version. ???
EDIT: Besides, aiming with the IR isn't "waggle."
(http://www.gamewad.com/ul/1325-550x-resident-evil-4-wii-edition-20070413010314309.jpg)
waggle waggle
See, THAT'S waggle. Aiming with the pointer (which is what Drinky was talking about) isn't waggle.
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I wonder how waggle will be handled with RE5 on the 360.
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it's all waggle if it uses a shitty wand and not a real controller
i created the word "waggle" and it is i that will decide its application
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it's all waggle if it uses a shitty wand and not a real controller
So it's not waggle then, since it uses a NEXT-GEN controller and not shitty button mashy mashy casual controls. :-*
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there is no such thing as a "next-gen" controller
only the subtly evolving dual analog pads and dead-end novelty controllers
"next-gen" is a term only applied to graphics platforms
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I've played through the GC version probably like 5 times by now. And now I'm tempted to buy the Wii version. :-[
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there is no such thing as a "next-gen" controller
only dual analog pads and novelty controllers
"next-gen" is a term only applied to graphics platforms
Cry more on your last gen wiggle dual stickies and button mashies. :'(
subtle evolution: the new subtle beauty
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there is no such thing as a "next-gen" controller
only dual analog pads and novelty controllers
"next-gen" is a term only applied to graphics platforms
I don't know, man. I really think Nintendo hit it right. Not necessarily with the motion sensing (it's far too sensitive to obstructions, for one), but by splitting the controller into two separate pieces. Nothing new really for us who favor keyboard and mouse for select game types, but it's a great solution for a home console.
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i'm fine with the separation; just remove the infrared sensing and the gyroscopes, please, and kick the non-gamers out of the hobby altogether
gaming should become more obscure, not more accessible
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i'm fine with the separation; just remove the infrared sensing and the gyroscopes, please, and kick the non-gamers out of the hobby altogether
gaming should become more obscure, not more accessible
Xbox 720 Xstick :bow2
PS4 PointShock :bow2
Dreamcast 2 Magi Wand :bow2
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or better yet, keep the dual analog pads, and pack in a lightgun like every other novelty arcade game out there
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The last struggles of a dying animal.
(http://i28.tinypic.com/eikyok.gif)
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Did they let you reload and move at the same time? Then they improved nothing.
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that was funny back on gaf
don't recycle
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Did they let you reload and move at the same time? Then they improved nothing.
no, you hold B to go into aiming mode and then jerk up
it hasn't hindered me
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i'm fine with the separation; just remove the infrared sensing and the gyroscopes, please, and kick the non-gamers out of the hobby altogether
gaming should become more obscure, not more accessible
Yeah... watching the wife's 70-year old baptist barnacle of a father enjoy Wii Sports killed something inside me.
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that was funny back on gaf
don't recycle
I needed a relevant image. How's this one?
(http://i31.tinypic.com/1118leu.jpg)
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Did they let you reload and move at the same time? Then they improved nothing.
no, you hold B to go into aiming mode and then jerk up
it hasn't hindered me
Fighting IT and realizing you can't reload and move simultaneously caused me to fight that guy a total of 5 times. On the cliffside with his lobster claws? You were given a whopping 2 feet of distance between you and him, and I couldn't reload and move. Smh.
Everything else about the game is beyond perfect, though, minus that lol-tastic final boss.
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Is drinky your EB Amirox, Crushed?
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i am the enemy of all ninthings and their nostalgia-addled inclusive gaming ways
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I've played through the GC version probably like 5 times by now. And now I'm tempted to buy the Wii version. :-[
I was in a similar boat, and wasn't sure if I'd want to play RE4 yet again in spite of how much I loved it. Then I received RE4 Wii as a gift - and I realised I was crazy not to get it sooner.
I don't think you'll regret it if you do pick it up.
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He always wanted Drinky to be his nemesis on GAF, unfortunately Drinky owned him so hard the first time he tried, no one ever took his jabs seriously again.
I give him credit for even trying, though.
I remember now. I like him as a poster but he has a nasty habit of trying to build an archnemesis.
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If you punch a celebrity, sometimes glitter sticks to your fist.
But if you miss, you look like a twat.
Or something.
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Did they let you reload and move at the same time? Then they improved nothing.
no, you hold B to go into aiming mode and then jerk up
it hasn't hindered me
Fighting IT and realizing you can't reload and move simultaneously caused me to fight that guy a total of 5 times. On the cliffside with his lobster claws? You were given a whopping 2 feet of distance between you and him, and I couldn't reload and move. Smh.
Everything else about the game is beyond perfect, though, minus that lol-tastic final boss.
http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/RE4/chapter45.html
(http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/RE4/Update%2045/Skysoblue24.jpg)
“Are you going to turn into a monster like the last three of your subordinates did?”
“It…it’s a really big monster…”
*sighs*
And I attempt to be no man's nemesis. I merely spread the truth in the darkest corners of the... darkness.
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On the upside, Prole, you could always argue that the original control scheme was so far in the dumps that the Wii had nowhere to take it but up.
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actually, that's precisely what i feel
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He always wanted Drinky to be his nemesis on GAF, unfortunately Drinky owned him so hard the first time he tried, no one ever took his jabs seriously again.
Crush is a pretty decent chap, but That WAS a fairly awesome ownage.
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He always wanted Drinky to be his nemesis on GAF, unfortunately Drinky owned him so hard the first time he tried, no one ever took his jabs seriously again.
Crush is a pretty decent chap, but That WAS a fairly awesome ownage.
I only vaguely remember this.
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can you just hurry up and beat the game already, this thread is GAY
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yeah, it's getting a bit homosexual in here
anyway, i got ashley, she's still a dumb cunt, can't wait until i get somewhere interesting
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yeah, it's getting a bit homosexual in here
anyway, i got ashley, she's still a dumb cunt, can't wait until i get somewhere interesting
LEEEEEYON
HALLLP
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i'm fine with the separation; just remove the infrared sensing and the gyroscopes, please, and kick the non-gamers out of the hobby altogether
gaming should become more obscure, not more accessible
how does motion sensing make games less obscure and more accessible? doesn't adding more independently sensed axes allow designers to make control schemes MORE complex, sophisticated and esoteric than before? I've never understood how 10 or 11DOF is supposed to be simpler than 4DOF.
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because it isn't sensitive or effective enough to make that freedom usable in a gaming context
hence we are given "aim" and "waggle" and 40% less buttons and the opportunity to provide the gestural controls that entice shitty non-gamers into the hobby instead of the alienating orthodoxy of cold hard inhuman button presses and thumbstick actions
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About time you finally realize its the superior console.
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(http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/RE4/Update%2045/Skysoblue24.jpg)
“Are you going to turn into a monster like the last three of your subordinates did?”
“It…it’s a really big monster…”
*sighs*
LMFAO.
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i could never grok the gc controls, with all the trigger holding and then slow aiming and then pressing another button and argh. i got about halfway through the game and said NOT FUN. DUAL STICKS PLEASE.
with the wii, i just headshot/legshot through everything, and then throw a bunch of boots to ganado heads, next area, rinse and repeat
wii version has worse image quality than the ps2 version, though, which is quite an accomplishment
and aiiieeee the textures :-X
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I really wouldn't mind another wii RE based around Leon and this control scheme. It'd need to be balanced for the fast aiming though.
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i understand the textures being old shit, but worse than ps2? ps2 had shittier models everywhere, and it looked like i had taken out my contacts and replaced them with mud. i haven't been able to play the game again since i forced myself to play through that shit version.
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PS2 has 24 bit color.
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PS2 has 24 bit color.
So does the GameCu *coughs* Wii.
It has to do with the Wii's video output, which is even worse than the GCN, apparently.
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No, 16.
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Gamecube/Wii?
Wiki says 24 for the GCN.
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waggle improved my wrist strength. now i can jackoff as furiously as a nintard during SSBB cutscenes.
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The ''waggle'' in RE4 isnt great. I killed merchants multiple times by shifting in my seat. Cranks were a nightmare. Not as bad as Zack and Wiki cranks but still frustrating.
One of these days youll admit to liking IR pointing. Its the best thing about wii.
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RE with dual analog? No tank controls? That's the sort of thing a non-gamer would say.
:bow Tank controls :bow2
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One of these days youll admit to liking IR pointing. Its the best thing about wii.
i like it inasmuch as i like packed-in light guns: as an occasional novelty, and NOT as a core control offering.
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RE with dual analog? No tank controls? That's the sort of thing a non-gamer would say.
:bow Tank controls :bow2
how can anyone enjoy tank controls
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I always liked the RE controls. Limitations are what games are all about.
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One of these days youll admit to liking IR pointing. Its the best thing about wii.
i like it inasmuch as i like packed-in light guns: as an occasional novelty, and NOT as a core control offering.
Its not like a lightgun very much at all.
Lets say nunchuck setup was standard. Dpad, 1, and 2 buttons removed. Replaced with 4 button diamond and the b trigger. Accelerometers removed. IR remains. Call it a potential new xbox controller.
Whats objectionable? Why would you opt for no ir with this hypothetical controller?
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RE with dual analog? No tank controls? That's the sort of thing a non-gamer would say.
:bow Tank controls :bow2
how can anyone enjoy tank controls
I think it goes hand in hand with the slow pacing of survival horror (what little of it remains in RE4 anyway). A dual analog 3rd person shooter is really a different type of game.
Tank controls work well in RE whether fixed camera or RE4-style. I understand not everyone likes them but if so, there are many dual analog 3rd person shooters around already.
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Tank controls are so fucking bad. I'm with Prole on this. I really did not enjoy RE4 as much as most people because of how shitty they are.
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So you guys are totally uninterested in RE5 as a result I guess?
It is a shame that the controls a hurdle for some, especially if you like the games otherwise.
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I never liked RE until 4. I'm not uninterested -- I still enjoyed RE4. I just didn't think it was a revelation like a lot of gamers.
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RE2 on N64 actually lets you use "regular" controls if you want to, and it's fucking horrible. The static backgrounds in most PS1 games just did not work well with a typical control scheme. Tank controls took a bit of getting used to, but it was still easy enough to master them (especially after quick-turns came into the picture). Nowadays, I don't I could do without them. Newer games that use them like RE4 and Godhand just move too fast to make the controls ideal, and you end up feeling hindered while you play.
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I agree regarding that the faster action of RE4 plus tank controls presented a new challenge - I guess I viewed it as a mechanic of the game that had to be learned and exploited.
You certainly have to be mindful of your position in relation to enemies, which was not so much the case in previous REs.
I never liked RE until 4. I'm not uninterested -- I still enjoyed RE4. I just didn't think it was a revelation like a lot of gamers.
That's fair enough.