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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 06:51:39 PM

Title: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 06:51:39 PM
Mainly having this here so I don't have to worry about GAF not loading the rest of the day.

HW
PlayStation 3 208.7K
PlayStation Portable 182.3K
Xbox 360 186.6K
Wii 675.1K
Nintendo DS 452.6K

SW Top 10
Top 10 SKU's May 2008 Rank # Units
(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc.)
360 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) APR 2008 1 871.3K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA APR 2008 2 787.4K
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA MAY 2008 3 687.7K
PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) APR 2008 4 442.9K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 5 294.6K
WII SUPER SMASH BROS: BRAWL NINTENDO OF AMERICA MAR 2008 6 171.1K
PS2 IRON MAN SEGA OF AMERICA APR 2008 7 130.6K
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ WIREACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 8 116.8K
NDS POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: EXPLORERS OF DARKNESS NOA APR 2008 9 107K
NDS POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: EXPLORERS OF TIME NOA APR 2008 10 102K
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 06:53:29 PM
WOW just look at those PS3 numbers a whole 208.7k that's like 200,000 but 8.7k+! Amazing numbers, GO GO GO PS3!

/GAF
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on June 12, 2008, 06:53:56 PM
Zomg Nintendomination!!!11 Also laffo @ GTA4 PS3 sales.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Akala on June 12, 2008, 06:54:55 PM
The GTA disparity is way over what I expected.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: ananus on June 12, 2008, 06:55:36 PM
top 10 shows why current gen fails. taking out gta4, which also seems to be disappoiting overall, all the games are shit.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 06:55:44 PM
Also laffo @ GTA4 PS3 sales.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 12, 2008, 06:56:49 PM
Was that Mario Kart's second month?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 12, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
ha ha ha... iron man sold more than pokemon... pokemon confirmed dead
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
Wii so crazy
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 06:59:34 PM
ha ha ha... iron man sold more than pokemon... pokemon confirmed dead
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/941/25537333zq0.jpg)
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
wow at mario kart.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
Was that Mario Kart's second month?

Yep.

Also, hopefully this means GTA is definitely losing steam this gen.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on June 12, 2008, 07:00:50 PM
Also laffo @ GTA4 PS3 sales.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE
I think they kinda suck. Ok, sure, that's a higher % of the PS3 install base buying GTA4 than the 360 base because the PS3 has sold a hell of a lot less. No matter how the sfux wanna spin it PS3 is still playing catch up, at least in the North American market.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: John Dunbar on June 12, 2008, 07:01:47 PM
Awesome. <3 <3

<3 nintendo <3
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on June 12, 2008, 07:01:58 PM
crushed was joking
I know.  :-*
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:02:10 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Mr_XYZ/wiigiveaway.gif)
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 12, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
Great, more homo wii shit.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
was mario kart that strong last gen? or is it because of the wii or the included wheel?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 07:05:40 PM
was mario kart that strong last gen? or is it because of the wii or the included wheel?

MK: DD was at like 5 million. Good, but not that popular. MK: Wii will easily pass it.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: tiesto on June 12, 2008, 07:05:57 PM
What a garbage group of games  :-X :-X :-X

I'm fine with most of the games, but Iron Man and the 2 GTA games  :-X
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2008, 07:07:18 PM
was mario kart that strong last gen? or is it because of the wii or the included wheel?

MK: DD was at like 5 million. Good, but not that popular. MK: Wii will easily pass it.
:o
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
was mario kart that strong last gen? or is it because of the wii or the included wheel?
Super Mario Kart: 8 million copies WW
Mario Kart 64: 7.7 million copies WW
Double Dash!!: 4.67 million copies WW
Mario Kart DS: 9.67 million copies WW
Mario Kart Wii: Currently just under 4 million WW, I would imagine
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 12, 2008, 07:09:53 PM
how many times more expensive was GTAIV's budget than Mario Kart Wii?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
how many times more expensive was GTAIV's budget than Mario Kart Wii?

EASILY over 10, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 07:18:01 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:18:21 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl
The SDF got wiped out by PA, remember?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Mupepe on June 12, 2008, 07:19:33 PM
god, hd gaming really is dead.  i guess decent sony sales though?  I think I was considered one of those. 
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on June 12, 2008, 07:26:24 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl

except for the few cheering a 20k lead. It will only take them 25 years at that rate to pass 360
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 07:27:29 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl

Around 30-35 posters got banned in the Star Ocean and PA threads. So its not a shock
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2008, 07:32:28 PM
go psp :bow

go ds :bow

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Mupepe on June 12, 2008, 07:35:13 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl
The SDF got wiped out by PA, remember?
PA?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2008, 07:36:20 PM
penny-arcade comic thread killed most of the sdf
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:36:45 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl
The SDF got wiped out by PA, remember?
PA?

Penny Arcade made a comic in which one of the characters went to seek help because he didn't really like MGS games but wanted to join the hype.

SDF took this to mean, "Sony sucks" and went crazy in a suicide assault.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Oblivion on June 12, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl
The SDF got wiped out by PA, remember?

The GAF NPD thread is a ghost town (or as much of one that an NPD thread could possibly be) :rofl :rofl

Around 30-35 posters got banned in the Star Ocean and PA threads. So its not a shock

Ah, no wonder. :rofl
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 12, 2008, 07:50:26 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on June 12, 2008, 07:51:35 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.
Is it really worse than the GC or N64 lineups were? :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:55:56 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.
Okay, I will continue having fun with the fun videogames, while all you have is grumbling about sales.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 07:57:28 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.

Its 10x better than the PS3 lineup. It makes a great addition next to my Xbox. So yeah i get games and i get the awesome sales.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 07:58:05 PM
and i get the awesome sales.
You're not helping. :rofl
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 12, 2008, 07:59:43 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.

Its 10x better than the PS3 lineup. It makes a great addition next to my Xbox. So yeah i get games and i get the awesome sales.
You "get" the awesome sales ???

Like MAF said before, the WII does a better job at what it's supposed to do than the PS3.  So far, the PS3 is just a much shittier Xbox 360, i.e. low end PC. 
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2008, 08:00:22 PM
Unless something crazy happens next month, the Wii will take the number one spot in the US. Right now it's only 90,000 behind the Xbox360.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 08:06:03 PM
This means Dragon Quest X won't be coming out on the PS3 :'(

First DQIX on the DS and now this.  I love the DS, but a man can only take so much :gloomy

Do you have an Xbox 360?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2008, 08:06:27 PM
ha ha ha... iron man sold more than pokemon... pokemon confirmed dead

On the PS2.  :lol Oh HD Gen, could you be any more of a disaster?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 12, 2008, 08:07:33 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.

fire emblem is pretty good if you are into it.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:09:46 PM
Nintendo's #1 in my :heartbeat, but the Wii just isn't doing it for me.  After filling up my system with VC titles nearly a year ago I haven't touched it since.  But it has more than 1 or 2 good games ::)

And those are? I've bought 6 Wii games, and all but one have sucked. Well, Zelda didn't suck, but they need to just stop making these games until they can add something new to it.

And it doesn't help that everyone else but me loves the system. The wife's old mom and dad, blind and crippled, loved Wii Sports. The fuck?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2008, 08:11:07 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.


Excite Truck
Boom Blox
No More Heroes
Super Mario Galaxy
Twilight Princess
Fire Emblem
Zack & Wiki
Metroid Prime 3
Smash Bros. Brawl

Looks like more than two to me.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 12, 2008, 08:12:15 PM
Duckman, you liked PS3 R&C but not Super Mario Galaxy? 

Even a graphics whore like me can see that SMG is the far better game. 
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:13:08 PM
Duckman, you liked PS3 R&C but not Super Mario Galaxy? 

Even a graphics whore like me can see that SMG is the far better game. 

No, I love Super Mario Galaxy. That's the one good game I'm referring to.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 12, 2008, 08:14:16 PM
List wars should remain at GAF

The HD console sales suck.  While it is laughable fanboy fodder, just imagine all the developers that have tens into hundreds of millions of dollars of capital tied up in the hard tanking PS3.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:18:28 PM
Why do you get upset about people enjoying something?  Quit being a little bitch.  The Wii's lineup is in a sad state of affairs, but there are many fun games for it and several others that you can at least understand the casual appeal for.  Whether you like casual gaming or not, they seem to be doing something well.

Of course I can understand it. That certainly doesn't mean I have to like it, and I don't share their enjoyment of this thing. I fear that the industry will in a big way turn towards and cater to these characters instead of catering to me and my gaming preferences. It really isn't that complicated.

Me: "I'm going to play a game, so, uh, go to bed or something"
The wife: ""Oooh, how about that Wii party game?"
Me: "Well, I was thinking more of playing COD4 or some such..."
The wife: "Come on, let's play Mario Party, then we can both play. And it's not violent at all!"

True fucking story. :(
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 08:20:59 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.


Excite Truck
Boom Blox
No More Heroes
Super Mario Galaxy
Twilight Princess
Fire Emblem
Zack & Wiki
Metroid Prime 3
Smash Bros. Brawl

Looks like more than two to me.

Trauma Center (both Second Opinion and New Blood) :bow2
LostWinds :bow
FF:CC MLaaK :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 12, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.


No way dude. 2008 is a sinkhole for Wii unless you dig MK and NMH but 2007 was pretty strong compared to 360 2006 or PS3 2007.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 08:23:42 PM
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“Leading into a pivotal season packed with blockbuster titles and unique online service offerings, consumers have chosen the PS3 as their home entertainment console of choice - showcased by its year-over-year sales growth of 155 percent. With its commanding line up of software titles and enhanced movie playback capabilities, the PS3 has seen phenomenal momentum with a software sales increase of more than 234 percent and additional studio support of delivering content in the Blu-ray format. The dual platform release of the much anticipated Grand Theft Auto IV title reaffirmed its legacy on the PlayStation platform with a 6 percent higher attach rate than Xbox 360, reinforcing consumer choice of PS3. Poised for continued momentum, PS3 is delivering on its breadth and depth of exclusive titles to its gaming fans with today's prized exclusive title launch of Metal Gear Solid 4. The media have hailed 2008 as the year of the PS3, and with solid sales and growth opportunities ahead, we feel consumers are saying the same.”

- Jack Tretton, president and CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment America
:rofl WOW :rofl
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2008, 08:24:09 PM
Hold on guys, it's not over yet!

Quote
"The continued success of GTA IV is not translating into big hardware sales for either the PS3 or the 360 but there may yet to be a lift in June due to gift-giving for Father's Day and Graduations."

Wait for the Father's Day bump!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 08:24:52 PM
Jack has a masters in spin. He trully does. He should go work in politics imo.

Oh and Analysts are morons. They whiffed on DS vs PSP and they majorly whiffed this gen. Somehow they make 200k a year.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 12, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
There's one good game on Wii. Two I guess, if you're into crappy remakes like Zelda TP. Some line-up. I've never despised a system I've owned quite the way I despise this, this Wai-thing.


Looks like zero to me.

fixed
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:25:23 PM
I wish I could send some fucking Terminator back in time and really change the console industry. Or at least stop me from buying any of these consoles. This generation sucks.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on June 12, 2008, 08:26:24 PM
 :lol Sales-agers  :lol
 :lol xfag spin  :lol

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Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
:bow Of the top 30 best-selling games of May, 19 are made for Nintendo systems, including third-party hits like Guitar Hero™ III: Legends of Rock from Activision, We Ski™ from Namco Bandai, Game Party™ from Midway and Boom Blox™ from Electronic Arts. :bow2

If your game's not on the Wii/DS, you're just throwing your development money into the wind.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 08:33:54 PM
who cares about any of this, 360 has tons of jrpgs heading its way, im stoked
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:36:14 PM
Your doomsday scenario isn't gonna happen, man.  Software for the 360 is selling very impressively, and no single company can stop the progression of technology.  If you don't like what Nintendo's doing there are plenty of other options.  It'd make more sense to focus your anger towards MS and Sony for botching this generation than getting in a hissy fit over Nintendo.

The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

And the doomsday scenario may be exaggerated, and I don't personally believe Sony could opt for the low-end business as it's far too dependent on the Playstation brand as a pillar in the CE industry, it's still a potential issue. I certainly wouldn't blame any business for wanting to test the Wii waters a bit, because theoretically, it should be a damned good platform for broad sales. And I wouldn't blame them for altering the direction and content of the games to fit the tastes of this new, massive audience either.

And I'm not sure where you're getting "anger" from. I'm annoyed by the situation, but I promise you, I have nothing but respect for the hitmaking company behind the system. The Wii is a brilliant product, I just don't like it.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 12, 2008, 08:37:51 PM
Pachter was wrong again. Last month he predicted the PS3 to beat out the 360, NPDs came out and the converse was true. Now the same thing happens again this month, only he predicted the 360 to beat out the PS3. I would love to know who his sources are on alot of this.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 12, 2008, 08:38:29 PM
The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

"HEY FAMILY, LOOK AT THIS COOL RACING GAME ISN'T IT AWESOME"

"that's nice dear (bored) Oh hey, let's play something I'll have fun wi-"

"GOD THIS IS SO UNFAIR"
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:38:50 PM
Is this what he actually does, or is it just part of a greater prediction business of his? I keep reading his name everywhere, not sure who he is.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 08:39:26 PM
The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

"HEY FAMILY, LOOK AT THIS COOL RACING GAME ISN'T IT AWESOME"

"that's nice dear (bored) Oh hey, let's play something I'll have fun wi-"

"GOD THIS IS SO UNFAIR"

YES
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 08:43:11 PM
I thought we all were
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 12, 2008, 08:44:11 PM
Geez duckman, you're being so melodramatic.  Buy a separate TV for the missus and everything will be OK.

Edit: maybe one for yourself would be better...
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 12, 2008, 08:49:40 PM
What the fuck is "game party" :lol

:lol Sales-agers  :lol
 :lol xfag spin  :lol

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Who's spinning here? Get a grip dude.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 08:54:10 PM
What the fuck is "game party" :lol


I think its when youre a fat ninthing nerd and get your friends to bring chips and shit over and play Mario Party and Smash Bros, fart all night, and get hard ons over 'how Nintendo is doing it right' and you call it a party.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 12, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
That almost sounds like World of World of Warcraft.
Nah, that's called poop-socking
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there.  :violin
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on June 12, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
What the fuck is "game party" :lol

:lol Sales-agers  :lol
 :lol xfag spin  :lol

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Who's spinning here? Get a grip dude.

I'm a firm believer that sales-age really brings out the absolute worst in people. Myself included. :'(
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 09:03:53 PM
I dont really pay attention to the numbers, these threads are always just really good
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 09:08:44 PM
oh thats ok, Ive played Wii with groups of friends several times, Warioware is a blast... but weve never planned it as zomg wii games night, bring chips and cola etc. Basically we'll be smoking weed and drinking and stuff then someone will say hey lets turn the Wii on and its generally pretty funny
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 09:09:10 PM
Game Party is that shitty mini game collection by Midway. Has like darts and shit like that.

Good for Midway they needed some sales after how everything else on their catalog has sold like shit including the 30 million dollar bomba Stranglehold
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on June 12, 2008, 09:13:54 PM
Game Party is that shitty mini game collection by Midway. Has like darts and shit like that.

Good for Midway they needed some sales after how everything else on their catalog has sold like shit including the 30 million dollar bomba Stranglehold

Stranglehold cost that much  :-X Its bad, but so bad its good IMO
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 12, 2008, 09:15:27 PM
I'm actually thankful for games like WiiSports and WiiPlay. 

Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Hollywood on June 12, 2008, 09:19:33 PM
Nintendo back on top where they belong. At this point today, they've retaken the US hardware lead in consoles for the first time since the SNES era. For those bitching: you shunned the N64, you shunned the Gamecube, and now they did a complete 180 and said fuck graphics, and took a dump on your face, and are more successful than ever. You asked for it.  :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Hollywood on June 12, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
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Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: siamesedreamer on June 12, 2008, 09:23:25 PM
I saw three...THREE 40+ year old guys in the Wii section at Best Buy during my lunch break.  :'(

Both the PS3 and 360 sold less than 500k units during the two months surrounding the GTA4 release. Unreal. They gotta drop the fucking prices. Its not rocket science.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 12, 2008, 09:25:33 PM
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Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.

and Mario Tennis (the N64 version) - which was good
and Mario Golf wasn't bad either

Smash Bros - i just don't get it.
Mario Party - like testicles across a cheese grater.

Speaking of which, is there a Mario Golf on the horizon?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 09:29:01 PM
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Speaking of which, is there a Mario Golf on the horizon?

Camelot made Wii Love golf instead.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 12, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
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Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.

and Mario Tennis (the N64 version) - which was good
and Mario Golf wasn't bad either

Smash Bros - i just don't get it.
Mario Party - like testicles across a cheese grater.

I quite liked Mario Golf, never got Mario Tennis.  The problem with these games (and Smash Bros and Mario Kart) is that they can suck when people of different skill levels play.

WiiSports and WiiPlay are much less dependent on skill level or familiarity with the game, so I find them much more enjoyable if people insist on Wii-ing at a get-together.

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Beezy on June 12, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
 :piss GTA4 :piss2

I hope it ends up being the worst selling GTA game.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 12, 2008, 09:39:07 PM
Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there.  :violin

fuck, i *am* a selfish prick. i don't want anyone but the folks who love the nerdiest of nerdcore games in my hobby, and i have zero tolerance for casuals, mascot fetishists, nostalgia addicts, manchildren, folks who demand games be "accessible," and dirty smelly gaming hippies of any variety.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 12, 2008, 09:43:09 PM
Gaming ended being for the nerdcore the moment FF7 was released prole sad to say. Blame Square for the movement towards mainstream.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: crimsondynamics on June 12, 2008, 09:45:12 PM
Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there.  :violin

Wait - let me get this straight: you are essentially pissed off because where before you were forced to play shitty board games and socialize, you are now forced to play shitty video games and socialize?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Narag on June 12, 2008, 09:46:19 PM
Gaming ended being for the nerdcore the moment FF7 was released prole sad to say. Blame Square for the movement towards mainstream.

No shit. It woudln't have the "BEST GAME EVER" shit attached to it if it weren't for all the new fucking gamers  holding onto it since it was their "first time."
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: tiesto on June 12, 2008, 09:52:22 PM
who cares about any of this, 360 has tons of jrpgs heading its way, im stoked

Yeah, really... as long as MS keeps on spending money on RPG exclusives, I could give fuck-all about sales...
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on June 12, 2008, 09:54:07 PM
agreed - i know nfags will sprout the "but sales means more games" garbage but if I get more of the same on 360 i dont care what outsells it or it outsells
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 12, 2008, 09:57:48 PM
what nfags say that sales are more important than games?  Sounds more like a strawman for insecure Xtards ::)

He said that sales mean more games come to the platform.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Narag on June 12, 2008, 10:01:40 PM
Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party?  ::)
Shovelware goes to the victor. Didn't the PS2 have the simple 2000 and phoenix games stuff?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Narag on June 12, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
Yes with MGS4 and FFXIII on the way.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 12, 2008, 10:33:55 PM
Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party?  ::)

It was a good argument in summer 07, it's laughable in summer 08.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 12, 2008, 11:04:12 PM
Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party?  ::)

Game Party's been out for a while, and it's cheap. If you look at some of the more recent OMG CASUAL games that have been released lately (Boom Blox, We Ski), they actually have a decent amount of effort put in them, which could mean maybe third-parties aren't a total lost cause on the Wii. It took them a year or so to get used to the DS too.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 12, 2008, 11:05:00 PM
180k  :lol :lol :lol

No wonder Bell got the boot. What a disaster for MS.

How do you have the decided advantage in AAA games and still come in last place?! That's unprecedented.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 12, 2008, 11:20:28 PM
guess sony and ms need to get their respective wagglers out the door pdq
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 12, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
180k  :lol :lol :lol

No wonder Bell got the boot. What a disaster for MS.

How do you have the decided advantage in AAA games and still come in last place?! That's unprecedented.


price still too high for mass market, red light stigma, etc

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 12, 2008, 11:27:32 PM
PS3 sales  :lol :lol :lol

i guess regular folks haven't heard blu ray won the war. any minute now they'll find out and the PS3 will sky rocket.

360 sales  :'( :'( :'(

wtf is wrong. price cut god dammit.

GTAIV PS3 :lol :lol :lol

bubububu playstation brand. seems like it didn't sell either console though

Wii (http://tinyurl.com/5nyqxt)(http://tinyurl.com/5nyqxt)(http://tinyurl.com/5nyqxt)

no comment. no games. no class
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on June 13, 2008, 12:19:33 AM
Now that the damage is done, it will be interesting to see the June numbers. Not much was released in April due to GTA fallout. Now that NG2 and MGS4 have hit the market, it will be interesting to see where the hardware bumps are.

Will MGS4 only bump the PS3 HW to 300k including the bundle? A kid I work with just got the bundle at wal-mart with the $100 gift card this morning. Now I'm his PS3 mentor as he completes the console trifecta.
Me: Did you get a HDMI cable?
Him: It doesn't come with it?!?
Me: Did your 360?
Him: I got one before it had HDMI
Me: .....

Do I think MGS4 is a system seller? Word of mouth  = Maybe..... See it in action = YES!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 12:31:50 AM
No one gives a fuck about MGS4.

But they give a fuck about the 80GB.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: etiolate on June 13, 2008, 12:47:26 AM
Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there.  :violin

I always had fun with parties and families playing games like Mario Kart or Soul Calibur. It's just a matter of the game focusing on fun before some other stuff.  Or just the game not trying so hard to prove it's
hardcore, which even kills my interest in the game.

Also, in the wake of what is selling, MGS4 is the total opposite of what Sony needs. Long cinematics, junior fiction writing and homoerotic warfare is not what the doctor ordered.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:17:33 AM
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Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MrSingh on June 13, 2008, 01:22:25 AM
[fuck, i *am* a selfish prick. i don't want anyone but the folks who love the nerdiest of nerdcore games in my hobby, and i have zero tolerance for casuals, mascot fetishists, nostalgia addicts, manchildren, folks who demand games be "accessible," and dirty smelly gaming hippies of any variety.


:bow :bow Professor Prole :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 13, 2008, 02:06:53 AM
people on GAF actually think resistance 2 will be as big as gears of war 2?  :lol

they live in their own world. resistance will do well, but no one gives a fuck about it outside of the internets
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2008, 04:47:26 AM
man, they weren't kidding when they said GTA4 didn't move hardware

smh at HD gen
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 13, 2008, 04:59:59 AM
LOL AT LUXURY CONSOLEZ
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 13, 2008, 06:23:11 AM
Yeep @ hardware
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: abrader on June 13, 2008, 08:44:17 AM
Will next gen finally launch fo real with MGS4?

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 08:49:25 AM
What the hell is Iron Man PS2 doing on the list? That game hit every system under then sun but the PS2 version cracks the top ten? Strange. And I can't imagine where Wii Fit would be had Nintendo shipped enough to meet demand. Also, I expected much higher Wii numbers.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 13, 2008, 09:23:58 AM
Iron Man was 29.99 and living off a bad ass movie. No shock. Just like Transformers PS2 last year.



Anyways. Nobody cares about MGS4 imo. Its not in GTAs level and GTA didnt do squat. Theres also talk that theres only 200k of the 80 gig bundles.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 13, 2008, 09:37:03 AM
Nobody cares about MGS4 imo. Its not in GTAs level and GTA didnt do squat. Theres also talk that theres only 200k of the 80 gig bundles.

Plus it seems that this generation is anti-hardcore, and MGS is much more of a core game that GTA.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 09:57:10 AM
I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

Except Zelda and Metroid both suck.  :(

No, PCthree is where it's at.  Unfortunately, the Wii is going to stick around in the household due to its popularity and casual appeal.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 13, 2008, 10:22:56 AM
Duckman, blame Sony.  Wii wouldn't be so sucessful if the PS3 weren't such an underwhelming piece of shit.  Wii delivered on what it was supposed to do and the PS3 didn't. 
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 11:27:57 AM
lol @ MGS 4 will move hardware.

When i picked up GTA4, there was a 20 minute wait worth of people picking it up, a lot of the with consoles.

I went to get MGS, and I got the LE without even pre-ordering the LE.

Sorry man, the dream is over.

Will next gen finally launch fo real with MGS4?



:lol

I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

Except Zelda and Metroid both suck.  :(

No, PCthree is where it's at.  Unfortunately, the Wii is going to stick around in the household due to its popularity and casual appeal.

No
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 11:41:44 AM
I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

I have PC+Wii+360. It's worked out pretty well so far.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Third on June 13, 2008, 12:02:33 PM
Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.

I'll have to agree with that.

Wii is selling so well. But why? Good games aren't the reason, that's for sure.

Wii 2 introduction will be exciting. I don't think that th majority of the Wii's userbase will buy a new console. Considering they only bought the console for the hype/gimmick. The most Wii users I know only bought it for WiiSport and WiiFit and they aren't touching the console anymore.

Why should those casual gamers buy Wii's successor..
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: hyp on June 13, 2008, 12:05:36 PM
 :o it was NPD day yesteray?!

wii = expected
ps3 = expected more since GTA was supposedly a "playstation" franchise
360 = terrible and reminder to DROP THE FUCKING PRICE

:piss handheld wars

overall boring ass NPD.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Third on June 13, 2008, 12:14:14 PM
I also forgot it was NPD day.

I guess that's a good thing. Who care about sales when only shit is selling.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 13, 2008, 12:25:52 PM
As a PC gamer, I don't get why you'd find tons of appeal in the kind of designs that flourish on the PC and then be able to turn around and enjoy the kind of stuff on the Wii. Unless all you play on the PC are casual games and console ports, I suppose. They appeal to totally different sorts of gamers, you aren't going to find a huge overlap between people who play WoW for hours on end or hardcore strategy games and people who play Wii Play and Wii Sports for fun.

PS3+PC should make the most sense but oh god in heaven does the PS3 library suck total donkey.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 12:28:06 PM
As a PC gamer, I don't get why you'd find tons of appeal in the kind of designs that flourish on the PC and then be able to turn around and enjoy the kind of stuff on the Wii. Unless all you play on the PC are casual games and console ports, I suppose. They appeal to totally different sorts of gamers, you aren't going to find a huge overlap between people who play WoW for hours on end or hardcore strategy games and people who play Wii Play and Wii Sports for fun.

PS3+PC should make the most sense but oh god in heaven does the PS3 library suck total donkey.


I'm a PC gamer too, and I love my Wii.

Switching between Team Fortress 2 and MLaaK or Mario Galaxy is awesome, or Crysis and Metroid Prime. :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
I don't see why I can't enjoy Civ 3 and Mario Galaxy.q
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
There's a lot of bitter tears in here, which is a shame. And somebody said Civ 4. GREAT soundtrack. Get it.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 13, 2008, 01:31:05 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2r2ui5u.gif)

:lol :lol

I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.


You only need two systems-- the one that plays MGS4 and the one that plays NGII. 

and a high quality PC to experience everything else properly.

but it would be swell if NGII and MGS4 got PC ports :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on June 13, 2008, 01:43:16 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2r2ui5u.gif)

There is volumes of truth in this.

absafuckinfantastic!!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 13, 2008, 02:01:13 PM
Xbox 360 under 200k is wow, just sad.

And the software top 10, ugh, Nintendo is ruining gaming. Well whatever, back to MGS4.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 06:06:11 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/wii-thirdparty-struggles-highlighted-by-may-npd/?biz=1

Boom Blox only sold 60k to go along with all 671k Wiis... that about wraps it up for third party development
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
Boom Blox got lost behind the flood of huge games within the past couple of months and it certainly didn't help that EA did virtually nothing to promote it.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 06:35:12 PM
Boom Blox got lost behind the flood of huge games within the past couple of months and it certainly didn't help that EA did virtually nothing to promote it.

What huge games? You did read the part where 671k people bought a Wii this month alone? There's a lot of people with just a Wii out there.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 06:42:33 PM
See, this is what happens. Couple goes to store, decides to buy Wii because hey, the couple that they admire bought one. Dude checks out games to buy with the system, the chick notices this and says "oh it already comes with a game, so you can put those back," which the dude probably does because he's lame. They realize that they need more than one controller to be like those other Wii couples, so they also get WiiPlay. And that's it. Perhaps the odd game is bought from time to time, but generally, that Wii is a WiiSports player. And as the dude loses interest, it's up to the chick to buy the games. And women don't buy games. They may have games bought for them, but they do not buy games on their own.

Guitar Hero is the exception, but that's also one of those couple things, and a hold-over from the PS2 era.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
Boom Blox got lost behind the flood of huge games within the past couple of months and it certainly didn't help that EA did virtually nothing to promote it.

What huge games? You did read the part where 671k people bought a Wii this month alone? There's a lot of people with just a Wii out there.

You don't think some of those 671k bought SSBB, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, or even Guitar Hero III? Not to mention that the Wii comes with a free game.

See, this is what happens. Couple goes to store, decides to buy Wii because hey, the couple that they admire bought one. Dude checks out games to buy with the system, the chick notices this and says "oh it already comes with a game, so you can put those back," which the dude probably does because he's lame. They realize that they need more than one controller to be like those other Wii couples, so they also get WiiPlay. And that's it. Perhaps the odd game is bought from time to time, but generally, that Wii is a WiiSports player. And as the dude loses interest, it's up to the chick to buy the games. And women don't buy games. They may have games bought for them, but they do not buy games on their own.

Guitar Hero is the exception, but that's also one of those couple things, and a hold-over from the PS2 era.

Even if you take out Wii Sports and Wii Play, the Wii had over 1.7 million software sales just in the top ten. The Xbox 360 only had 871,300 in the top ten.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 06:53:02 PM
If they could find them
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
I thought of an awesome Real Gamer slogan

"Wii won. We lost."

I should make t-shirts
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 13, 2008, 07:07:53 PM
I'm sure Boom Blox is very good, but it should be half the price.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
I'm sure Boom Blox is very good, but it should be half the price.

Yeah, they should have at least launched it at $40. Hopefully word of mouth keeps it around for a few more months.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 13, 2008, 07:50:38 PM
Carnival Games had shit advertisement and sold a million copies thanks to the low price.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 13, 2008, 07:57:09 PM
Remember when CoD4 and AC got lost on the 360 because of all the other huge games that came out for the system.

o wait

 :bow 360 owners :bow2

quit being poor wii owners

:bow Me :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 13, 2008, 08:35:18 PM
Carnival Games had shit advertisement and sold a million copies thanks to the low price.

Exactly.  Generally people will just not cough up a lot for a game like Boom Blox (puzzle game, funny name, funny design) no matter how good it is.  You'd think publishers would be wise to this.

Casuals will go for the cheaper "Carnival Games", hardcore gamers will wait for the price to fall.

The game looks great and makes excellent use of the Wii - it's just got the wrong price point.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: muckhole on June 13, 2008, 08:52:18 PM
I thought of an awesome Real Gamer slogan

"Wii won. We lost."

I should make t-shirts

That's actually pretty good!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2008, 09:05:51 PM
I thought of an awesome Real Gamer slogan

"Wii won. We lost."

I should make t-shirts

Does it come pre-soaked in bitter tears, or do you have to add your own?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Grecco on June 13, 2008, 09:10:39 PM
Bitter tears sustain me.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 13, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
i don't know about sega rally but VF5 was a port and isn't it a hardcore game?
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 13, 2008, 09:21:57 PM
VF isn't a hardcore game. My brother who hasn't owned a system since the N64 bought a PS3 recently because he wanted VF5.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 09:22:40 PM
I woulda bought BBlox at $30 just for co op with my gf.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Hollywood on June 13, 2008, 09:32:48 PM
LOL - I love the jaded "real gamers" crying about the Wii. Good times. They basically shoved a red shell up your ass.  :lol

Lets see they could have did this:

- Spent a few hundred million to make a system as powerful as PS3 and 360, then people would have bitched about the online system.

- Spend a few ten million setting up an XBox Live style online infrastructure for all the games. Then people would bitch about the controller.

- Make a controller exactly the same as 360 and PS3 along with the current controller and come with every system. People would bitch there isn't enough matchur exclusives.

- Spend a few ten million getting matchur exclusives, then people would bitch their first party games are too cartoony, the system isn't aethestically pleasing, it doesn't have a cool enough name, etc, etc and not buy one anyway.

So they basically just said, fuck you, took a gamecube, upgraded it just a little bit, added a weird motion controller and threw out some random mainstream junk along with their traditional games and are rolling in the money.  :lol

I guess its quite traumatic to those geek gamers ...  "Bu bu bu bubu shooting stuff is cool! space marines! futuristic badasses!! yea!!"

No bitch, looks like lore people care about moving a cartoony tennis racket around with a controller or doing yoga on a mat hooked to a TV than the 400th space alien/war shooter. Owned. This is comedy.  :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 13, 2008, 09:36:10 PM
I'm still against the Wii. $250 for a Gamecube? Go fuck yourself Nintendo.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: abrader on June 13, 2008, 09:49:06 PM
this shyt is so funny..

I am actually really bored of my Wii and NDS again and thinking of packing it up so I can just get back to the playstation library full time,

I like little distractions like boom blox - but i only got so much time to game.

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
LOL - I love the jaded "real gamers" crying about the Wii. Good times. They basically shoved a red shell up your ass.  :lol

Lets see they could have did this:

- Spent a few hundred million to make a system as powerful as PS3 and 360, then people would have bitched about the online system.

- Spend a few ten million setting up an XBox Live style online infrastructure for all the games. Then people would bitch about the controller.

- Make a controller exactly the same as 360 and PS3 along with the current controller and come with every system. People would bitch there isn't enough matchur exclusives.

- Spend a few ten million getting matchur exclusives, then people would bitch their first party games are too cartoony, the system isn't aethestically pleasing, it doesn't have a cool enough name, etc, etc and not buy one anyway.

So they basically just said, fuck you, took a gamecube, upgraded it just a little bit, added a weird motion controller and threw out some random mainstream junk along with their traditional games and are rolling in the money.  :lol

I guess its quite traumatic to those geek gamers ...  "Bu bu bu bubu shooting stuff is cool! space marines! futuristic badasses!! yea!!"

No bitch, looks like lore people care about moving a cartoony tennis racket around with a controller or doing yoga on a mat hooked to a TV than the 400th space alien/war shooter. Owned. This is comedy.  :lol

Nobody is denying that Wii is a financial success for Nintendo or popular with the mainstream. That doesn't mean I have to pretend to like it, however.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 13, 2008, 10:28:54 PM
I didn't buy Boom Blox.  I guess I'm part of the problem  :(

I believe that a Nintendo system modeled after the PS3 and 360 would have been a massive failure.  It could even be argued that the PS3 and 360 share too similar of territories.  A third system in their vein would have been a huge mistake.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on June 13, 2008, 10:32:06 PM
Boom Blox sucks so I don't mind.

Not surprising anyway, Nintendo grows the market by attracting non-gamers who will only buy whatever Nintendo advertises. I'd love to see what the first party share of software on the Wii is, wouldn't surprise me to see it being 60/40, where PS3/360 are more like 30/70.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 10:36:05 PM
Boom Blox sucks so I don't mind.

 :dizzy
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Mupepe on June 13, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
LOL - I love the jaded "real gamers" crying about the Wii. Good times. They basically shoved a red shell up your ass.  :lol

Lets see they could have did this:

- Spent a few hundred million to make a system as powerful as PS3 and 360, then people would have bitched about the online system.

- Spend a few ten million setting up an XBox Live style online infrastructure for all the games. Then people would bitch about the controller.

- Make a controller exactly the same as 360 and PS3 along with the current controller and come with every system. People would bitch there isn't enough matchur exclusives.

- Spend a few ten million getting matchur exclusives, then people would bitch their first party games are too cartoony, the system isn't aethestically pleasing, it doesn't have a cool enough name, etc, etc and not buy one anyway.

So they basically just said, fuck you, took a gamecube, upgraded it just a little bit, added a weird motion controller and threw out some random mainstream junk along with their traditional games and are rolling in the money.  :lol

I guess its quite traumatic to those geek gamers ...  "Bu bu bu bubu shooting stuff is cool! space marines! futuristic badasses!! yea!!"

No bitch, looks like lore people care about moving a cartoony tennis racket around with a controller or doing yoga on a mat hooked to a TV than the 400th space alien/war shooter. Owned. This is comedy.  :lol
The Backstreet Boys sold millions of albums and were insanely popular.  I guess that means they were quality music too.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Bildi on June 13, 2008, 10:43:48 PM
I do find people who are scared of the Wii amusing - that it will somehow kill off 'hardcore gaming'.  The 360 has more games releasing than I can keep up with - moreso than previous generations. 

I might not buy so many games on the Wii, but that's no different to the N64 or Gamecube.  The tons of shovelware on the console doesn't bother me one bit, because the AAA quantity has been unaffected.  We still get a few AAA games a year on the Nintendo console that we can't get anywhere else, like always.

Boom Blox sucks so I don't mind.

 :dizzy

pilonv1 is down the line.  He wouldn't troll it for no good reason.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 10:45:01 PM
Wrestling sold millions too, I guess that's quality :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 10:46:27 PM
(looks at Hollywood's post)

Uh, I actually don't think he mentioned the quality of the Wii's games at all. In fact, it almost sounds like he thinks that it's all just yoga and minigames.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: etiolate on June 13, 2008, 10:57:21 PM
Sony and MS see the gamer audience as dumbasses to be manipulated.

Nintendo sees the gamer audience as dumbasses that can just be ignored.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on June 13, 2008, 10:58:53 PM
Re: Boom Blox it would have been fine as a $15 Wii Ware game. As it is a nearly full priced retail product I think it's terrible.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on June 13, 2008, 10:59:26 PM
Sony and MS see the gamer audience as dumbasses to be manipulated.

Nintendo sees the gamer audience as dumbasses that can just be ignored.

winner. never go wrong pandering to the lowest common denominator, especially fat americans
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 13, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2008, 11:04:42 PM
Sony and MS see the gamer audience as dumbasses to be manipulated.

Nintendo sees the gamer audience as dumbasses that can just be ignored.

99.9% of gamers care more about hype than actual games anyway (see GTA4). Wii's got hype, baby!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 13, 2008, 11:17:40 PM
Sony and MS see the gamer audience as dumbasses to be manipulated.

Nintendo sees the gamer audience as dumbasses that can just be ignored.

99.9% of gamers care more about hype than actual games anyway (see GTA4). Wii's got hype, baby!

I agree with this.

All the GTA4 hype that lasted for weeks before its release and I guarantee you that most stopped playing on a regular basis after a week.  Most copies are probably gathering dust without a serious attempt to complete the game.  They just liked shooting people, bragging about how "tizzight" the graphics were, and then it now rests up against the other hyped shit most people throw their money at.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 11:25:50 PM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming

Will you learn bow2 you fucking nub
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 11:29:22 PM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming

I can't speak for PSP but the DS software has really slowed in the last year. There are still a number of good titles like Professor Layton and EO2 but for the most part far fewer quality games than 2005/2006.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: drew on June 13, 2008, 11:34:45 PM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming

[youtube=425,350]k6IgsKBX6V4[/youtube]

[youtube=425,350]1L_BuzqN8jw[/youtube]

lol



Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on June 14, 2008, 12:39:50 AM
 :o

 :heartbeat Liv and Carrie :heartbeat

They are so cute. Who cares if they are overcome by non gaming. :-*
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Hollywood on June 14, 2008, 12:51:09 AM
(looks at Hollywood's post)

Uh, I actually don't think he mentioned the quality of the Wii's games at all. In fact, it almost sounds like he thinks that it's all just yoga and minigames.


Yeah exactly my point. I didn't even mention anything about "quality." What's funny in all this is the people bitching at Nintendo the past 10 years about consoles sales and joking on them, said the Wii was going to fail when the controller was announced - then the name announced, blah blah blah.

Now the same people who were laughing at Nintendo for not putting up the high console numbers wanna spin it and say "bubububu not a real console! bubububu its not quality!" Obviously the elitist gamers who live off of NPD and had a good time joking on Nintendo not being in first are completely devastated they don't have that anymore, and their "way" and precious system is relegated to the niche minority.  :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: tiesto on June 14, 2008, 01:00:44 AM
As a PC gamer, I don't get why you'd find tons of appeal in the kind of designs that flourish on the PC and then be able to turn around and enjoy the kind of stuff on the Wii. Unless all you play on the PC are casual games and console ports, I suppose. They appeal to totally different sorts of gamers, you aren't going to find a huge overlap between people who play WoW for hours on end or hardcore strategy games and people who play Wii Play and Wii Sports for fun.

PS3+PC should make the most sense but oh god in heaven does the PS3 library suck total donkey.


My friends in college were both PC and Nintendo fans, they took no interest whatsoever when I showed them Sega or Sony consoles. They didn't like anything like Soul Calibur, 2D fighters, most RPGs, Jet Set Radio, etc. They were mostly into RTS games :zzz and stuff like Master Of Orion :zzz and then at the same time they'd play Mario Tennis or SSBM. It's only on the Internet that I see so much anti-Nintendo vitriol, nowadays everybody I know in real life are all interested in the Wii and either own one or are planning on one, even if they have other systems (usually 360's) or haven't been into Nintendo since the SNES days.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: drew on June 14, 2008, 01:10:38 AM
They are so cute. Who cares if they are overcome by non gaming. :-*

Those commercials are the reason my sister wants a ds lite.  Well, that and a bit of 6 Golden Coins nostalgia brought on by this: 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[youtube=425,350]3wr-Gi8nvgo[/youtube]
[close]

Nintendo wins.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:35:30 AM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming

I can't speak for PSP but the DS software has really slowed in the last year. There are still a number of good titles like Professor Layton and EO2 but for the most part far fewer quality games than 2005/2006.

wtf are you talking about!

Band Bros.
Rythm Tengoku Gold
Final Fantasy IV
Dragon Quest IV
Etrian Odyssey 2

all in this one summer!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:42:56 AM
:bow  portable gaming :bow

the final bastion of hardcore gaming
lol

[youtube=425,350]-O-u06cmmAg[/youtube]

???
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 01:46:27 AM
i really don't see the appeal of the FF DS remakes, ugly super deformed graphics ftl.

should have been 2d.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 14, 2008, 01:53:06 AM
i really don't see the appeal of the FF DS remakes, ugly super deformed graphics ftl.

should have been 2d.
Then it would have been a port of SNES super-deformed sprites.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:53:18 AM
FFIV ds looks good to me
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:54:10 AM
i really don't see the appeal of the FF DS remakes, ugly super deformed graphics ftl.

should have been 2d.
Then it would have been a port of SNES super-deformed sprites.

Yeah and we've had those re released how many times?

FFIVr's graphic style reminds me of FFIX. I think that's a good thing.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 01:55:53 AM
i didn't even like crisis core graphics which was on a superior handheld, graphically speaking.

jaggy as fuck and really lifeless and empty, the wutai area looked like a dynasty warrior game lol.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:58:45 AM
i agree about crisis core

but ff4ds looks more full of life going by the gametrailers preview

i mean, you can actually go inside houses :o

I can't think of too many recent jrpgs, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon aside that allow you to go in houses. That's a feature that seems to have been completely forgotten of.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:00:31 AM
a part of the reason Crisis Core looks lifeless is because we are biased. We have experienced the TRUE FF7 experience with pre rendered bgs. Like me and powerslave said before, FF7 without pre rendered bgs just isn't the same thing. Midgar looks like a SHIT HOLE without pre rendered bgs because half of what *MAKES* Midgar are the pre rendered bgs. It's the fucking detail that made it memorable, which added to the atmosphere immensely.

You can't do that with 3d graphics.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 02:02:21 AM
you can with a fixed camera like lost odyssey.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:04:04 AM
I agree there. But when it comes to stuff like FFXII all I see are shitty copy pasta environments which are flat out boring.

No jrpg has ever topped the art design of FFVII-X for me, and the pre rendered bgs are a part of the reason for that.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 02:05:55 AM
FF12 was basically going for the oblivion look, boring copy pasta huge world.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:06:48 AM
mcdragon you have seen this right?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35093.html

looks like the best final fantasy since 2001
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:07:09 AM
FF12 was basically going for the oblivion look, boring copy pasta huge world.

another reason ff12 sucks
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 02:07:38 AM
nope, let me see it...
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2008, 02:13:14 AM
I agree there. But when it comes to stuff like FFXII all I see are shitty copy pasta environments which are flat out boring.

No jrpg has ever topped the art design of FFVII-X for me, and the pre rendered bgs are a part of the reason for that.

I agree with you on that. I played a lot of JRPGs during the SNES and PSX days and I really loved them, but after that I've really cooled off to genre. Oh, I still play some of them now and again, yet I can't help but feel that a certain charm is missing that used to be there and I'm not nearly as excited about the genre as I was back then. I don't know if it's the change from largely prerendered backgrounds or just a lack of newness or what.

By the way, download the widescreen patch for Planescape: Torment and crank it up to high resolution. Looks absolutely amazing [it's NINE years old!!] and every location is just so full of life and detail, certainly doesn't hurt that the writing is second to none in the videogame world.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:13:31 AM
Man, they're using the moogle designs from FFXII in this?

ugh

XII has ruined this series
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 02:14:35 AM
ok, i admit, the town and dungeon look hot.

battles look fine but seeing the character models up close is not so good.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:15:55 AM
Yeah, character models could use a little more smoothing over

but shit, it looks like fucking genuine final fantasy, something I haven't seen in almost a goddamn decade.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:16:38 AM
it doesn't hurt that they are remaking one of the best in the series :bow

:bow kain :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 02:21:34 AM
i didn't beat it the last time, went into some underworld bullshit and got distracted.

so i might get this.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:22:27 AM
omg the underworld rocked so much

Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:24:13 AM
I agree there. But when it comes to stuff like FFXII all I see are shitty copy pasta environments which are flat out boring.

No jrpg has ever topped the art design of FFVII-X for me, and the pre rendered bgs are a part of the reason for that.

I agree with you on that. I played a lot of JRPGs during the SNES and PSX days and I really loved them, but after that I've really cooled off to genre. Oh, I still play some of them now and again, yet I can't help but feel that a certain charm is missing that used to be there and I'm not nearly as excited about the genre as I was back then. I don't know if it's the change from largely prerendered backgrounds or just a lack of newness or what.

By the way, download the widescreen patch for Planescape: Torment and crank it up to high resolution. Looks absolutely amazing [it's NINE years old!!] and every location is just so full of life and detail, certainly doesn't hurt that the writing is second to none in the videogame world.

the reason i liked lost odyssey so much was because it had imagination. imagination and that magic warm fuzzy feeling for the days of old.

[youtube=425,350]U_HxjU8TolU[/youtube]

:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Crushed on June 14, 2008, 02:24:42 AM
lol at some of the people complaining about ffiv

"wah cecil looks like a girl and kain sounds too evil and their names aren't the proper nippon pronunciations"

Just watch this awesome shit. :bow2 (http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/905252/final-fantasy-iv/videos/ffivpreview_event_061108.html)
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:27:50 AM
hahaha the dub for ff4 sounds amazing

i always thought it was SEE-SIL

:bow :bow FINAL FANTASY IV :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Vizzys on June 14, 2008, 02:32:56 AM
look at those amazin' graphix
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 14, 2008, 10:42:38 AM
Wow, Contra 4 looks boner


oh shit thanks for that FF4 vid, I definitely have to buy that
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 14, 2008, 11:04:25 AM
As a PC gamer, I don't get why you'd find tons of appeal in the kind of designs that flourish on the PC and then be able to turn around and enjoy the kind of stuff on the Wii. Unless all you play on the PC are casual games and console ports, I suppose. They appeal to totally different sorts of gamers, you aren't going to find a huge overlap between people who play WoW for hours on end or hardcore strategy games and people who play Wii Play and Wii Sports for fun.

PS3+PC should make the most sense but oh god in heaven does the PS3 library suck total donkey.


I will simply have to buy a Wii for Prime 3, Galaxy and the Next Zelda. That's all I wanted, want and will want from a Nintendo console EVER. Those three franchises.

Except for MGS4, SMG is better than the whole PS3 library. 
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 12:42:09 PM
God damnit Himuro, FFVIII is not "the days of old".

It came out almost 10 years!
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Beezy on June 14, 2008, 12:47:15 PM
God damnit Himuro, FFVIII is not "the days of old".
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 01:06:54 PM
almost 10 years + = days of old!!

ADMIT IT
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: demi on June 14, 2008, 01:13:13 PM
PSX isnt days of old at all... try going back farther
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Beezy on June 14, 2008, 01:39:29 PM
almost 10 years + = days of old!!

ADMIT IT
It's not for me, but I can see why it would be for you since your first RPG was a PS1 game.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 14, 2008, 01:40:46 PM
almost 10 years + = days of old!!

ADMIT IT
Days of old = Atari 2600, Sega Master system, or the NES.
Title: Re: May NPD
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:15:35 PM
atari, nes, snes, genesis, and tg-16 all feel old but so does psx, n64, and saturn to me. it feels like foreverrrr ago :(