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Title: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Right after NPD, this little news comes out. (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-working-on-break-apart-motion-ps3-pad)

Can't wait for MGS4: Substantial to have these controls!
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Powerslave on June 13, 2008, 12:10:30 PM
MGS4: Substantial

nice.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2008, 12:28:16 PM
R.I.P. gaming
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 13, 2008, 12:32:16 PM
Nintendo has destroyed my favorite hobby.  All we can do now is enjoy the next couple years of real gaming and then move on to something else.  Carpentry? Pottery? Watercolor painting? I dunno, we'll figure something out.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
Nintendo has destroyed my favorite hobby.  All we can do now is enjoy the next couple years of real gaming and then move on to something else.  Carpentry? Pottery? Watercolor painting? I dunno, we'll figure something out.
:bawl
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 12:35:18 PM
All this means is the next gen of Sony and MS consoles will be $300 instead of $400-600.

Third parties still know where the love is.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 13, 2008, 12:40:56 PM
(http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7198/sonycopykn2.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Rman on June 13, 2008, 12:52:00 PM
Right after NPD, this little news comes out. (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-working-on-break-apart-motion-ps3-pad)

Can't wait for MGS4: Substantial to have these controls!

I ain't buying another revised controller, Sony! Suckasses weren't cheap and the DS3 after that wasn't cheap either.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 12:53:59 PM
Nintendo has destroyed my favorite hobby.  All we can do now is enjoy the next couple years of real gaming and then move on to something else.  Carpentry? Pottery? Watercolor painting? I dunno, we'll figure something out.

Waggle may be a pain, but I also don't think Nintendo came out with the optimal solution for a pointer device. And personally, I think the two-part controller design is the way to go, as opposed to the two-handed brick design that is unfortunately the current standard.

Nintendo has destroyed my favorite hobby.  All we can do now is enjoy the next couple years of real gaming and then move on to something else.  Carpentry? Pottery? Watercolor painting? I dunno, we'll figure something out.

I'm sure you will change your mind once you get one for yourself. Isn't that sort of what happened with you and the 360?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 13, 2008, 01:02:19 PM
Yeah, but waggle is a different kind of animal.

Actually, when I think about it... my biggest problem with the Wii is the 7-year old hardware they put in it.  I love the immersion that incredible graphics and animation gives you.  If the Wii was just as powerful as the 360 and PS3, I'd probably own one right now.

The other big issue is the type of games on the platform.  If MS and Sony use their wands for casual shovelware, like what 90% of the Wii's library consists of, then I want nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Pharmacy on June 13, 2008, 01:04:16 PM
who gives a fuck?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:04:47 PM
The other big issue is the type of games on the platform.  If MS and Sony use their wands for casual shovelware, like what 90% of the Wii's library consists of, then I want nothing to do with it.

Why would they do that? Nintendo doesn't use their controller for casual shovelware.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 01:07:22 PM
Well, if the previous rumors are correct, the device will likely work with Killzone 2. And presumably then, every other future (and obviously better) FPS on the system. Although, Sony does have a pretty decent amount of talent available for making wackier and quirkier games, so I'm not counting out the "casual" (or perhaps super-hardcore) value of the controller quite yet. And doesn't it still have a internal sports studio? I don't know what Microsoft is going to do though. Turn Rare into a mini-game sweatshop? Rely on contributions from indie companies and individuals working with XNA?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
Nintendo has destroyed my favorite hobby.  All we can do now is enjoy the next couple years of real gaming and then move on to something else.  Carpentry? Pottery? Watercolor painting? I dunno, we'll figure something out.

Video games are on their way out anyways. The new sensation is POG.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 01:10:14 PM
Why the fuck would you wanna use a dual handed controller for Killzone if it doesn't have a pointer?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 13, 2008, 01:10:25 PM
The other big issue is the type of games on the platform.  If MS and Sony use their wands for casual shovelware, like what 90% of the Wii's library consists of, then I want nothing to do with it.

Why would they do that? Nintendo doesn't use their controller for casual shovelware.

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee
wii fit
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 01:11:25 PM
Why the fuck would you wanna use a dual handed controller for Killzone if it doesn't have a pointer?

Uh, supposedly it does act as a positional device, only obviously not using Nintendo's proprietary tech.

The better question would be, why would you want to play Killzone 2?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:11:44 PM
The other big issue is the type of games on the platform.  If MS and Sony use their wands for casual shovelware, like what 90% of the Wii's library consists of, then I want nothing to do with it.

Why would they do that? Nintendo doesn't use their controller for casual shovelware.

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee

(looks for the shovelware)


Nope, don't see it, I see a lot of games with high production values that were polished well, regardless of whether or not they appeal to your tastes.


It's like Spider-Man 3 and Turkish Spider-Man. Both may not appeal to you or the rest of sensible humanity, but one is a piece of bargain bin crap.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 01:13:40 PM
Why the fuck would you wanna use a dual handed controller for Killzone if it doesn't have a pointer?

Uh, supposedly it does act as a positional device, only obviously not using Nintendo's proprietary tech.

The better question would be, why would you want to play Killzone 2?


Oh, it's more than x2 gyros?


edit: article just says it's x2 gyros.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 01:14:17 PM

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee

Shovel it into my mouth son.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 01:14:35 PM
And for the record, I'd take a two-part controller over a single clumpy device any day of the week. Pointer or no pointer.

Why the fuck would you wanna use a dual handed controller for Killzone if it doesn't have a pointer?

Uh, supposedly it does act as a positional device, only obviously not using Nintendo's proprietary tech.

The better question would be, why would you want to play Killzone 2?


Oh, it's more than x2 gyros?


edit: article just says it's x2 gyros.

Other "reports" have suggested that it's a lot more than just two accelerators.

Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 13, 2008, 01:14:42 PM
and i see crap i wouldn't buy even at $4.99. also, wii games don't have production values, because the hardware is incapable of such a thing.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 13, 2008, 01:15:33 PM
Yea, the split on Wii is great.

Hopefully Sony doesn't just crack a Dual Shock in half, and instead redesigns each half. I don't know how well traditional 2-shoulder-button shit would work without the firm grip of a brick.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
and i see crap i wouldn't buy even at $4.99. also, wii games don't have production values, because the hardware is incapable of such a thing.

Well now, Mario has some pretty strong designs, and certainly very good and nice sounding music.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 01:17:15 PM

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee

Shovel it into my mouth son.

u evr been w/ a bear b4?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:18:37 PM
and i see crap i wouldn't buy even at $4.99. also, wii games don't have production values, because the hardware is incapable of such a thing.
You bought Mana Khemia.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 01:19:47 PM

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee

Shovel it into my mouth son.

u evr been w/ a bear b4?

Do you want me to hold you at night demi?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 13, 2008, 01:23:32 PM
and i see crap i wouldn't buy even at $4.99. also, wii games don't have production values, because the hardware is incapable of such a thing.
You bought Mana Khemia.

you don't see me suggesting mana-khemia has production values, or that it is worth purchasing a system for

mana-khemia is definitely shovelware
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:25:08 PM
did you ever save the dogs drinky



the dogs and their majestic idyllic isle
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 13, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
MGS4 is already out. Just shoot the PS3 in the head now and stop wasting R+D money on it.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 13, 2008, 01:28:43 PM
did you ever save the dogs drinky



the dogs and their majestic idyllic isle

my daughter has not asked to play it since then :'(
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:33:55 PM
"No! I must fight the dogs" he shouted
The radio said "No, Drinky. You are the dogs"
And then Drinky was a ninthing.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Brehvolution on June 13, 2008, 01:36:15 PM
You know, you could just choose to not buy it. ::)
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 13, 2008, 01:43:20 PM
off-topic but:
Quote from: Wonderdog (some random gaffer)
The two unveils I know 100% sure are legit are Dead Rising 2 and Halo 4. Halo, though, won't be playable, it'll just be a trailer. But expect hands-on time with DR2. ;)
:opaeek
i'm sure it's bs tho
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2008, 01:52:16 PM
Fall back, brothers!

To the PC Citadel, last hope of free gamers!
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 01:55:43 PM
Fall back, brothers!

To the PC Citadel, last hope of free gamers!

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=21401

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Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Grecco on June 13, 2008, 02:06:41 PM
Hope it happens just so whinny man babbies can finally quit the hobby. Most of the whiners will just suck it up and suddenly love waggle.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 02:36:49 PM

nintendo shovelware
--
wario ware
mario kart wii
wii sports
wii play
smash bros melee

Shovel it into my mouth son.

u evr been w/ a bear b4?

Do you want me to hold you at night demi?

You didnt answer my first question
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Scurvy Stan on June 13, 2008, 02:47:57 PM
Wouldn't it be better to make more innovative games? Not just the same old games controlled in a slightly different manner?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: duckman2000 on June 13, 2008, 02:54:21 PM
Wouldn't it be better to make more innovative games? Not just the same old games controlled in a slightly different manner?

No. Why bother with forceful innovation when one device can bring something fresh to any number of existing design formats?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 03:25:25 PM
Wouldn't it be better to make more innovative games? Not just the same old games controlled in a slightly different manner?

If only all developers would follow in Steven Spielberg's footsteps. If only.  :'(
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 04:12:17 PM
You didnt answer my first question

Wait, was there a second? And my answer is Yogi.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 13, 2008, 04:36:45 PM
The only thing that can save the hobby is waggle and the belligerent and erroneous use of the word "narrative" in game reviews.  also, wait for X.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: demi on June 13, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
You didnt answer my first question

Wait, was there a second? And my answer is Yogi.

There would be a second question if you'll just let me.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Crushed on June 13, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
o dear
 (http://kotaku.com/5016289/rumor-details-on-sonys-motion-controls-no-break+apart)
Quote
The control system, said the source, actually consists of a smaller-sized device that can attach to the body - and multiple devices are intended to be used in concert, such as wearing two on the hands to move a character's hands in-game, or four, on hands and feet at the same time to move a character's body.

Though the source admits the technology might have evolved since the last time it was seen, the source disputes the idea that any of these pieces merge to form a single controller. It is also unclear how the individual pieces will be packaged, whether individually or in sets.

It's not just waggle, it's FULL-BODY WAGGLE.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: evilromero on June 13, 2008, 04:50:33 PM
You didnt answer my first question

Wait, was there a second? And my answer is Yogi.

There would be a second question if you'll just let me.

Your charm won me over. I'll say no.
This better be good...
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: The Sceneman on June 13, 2008, 06:08:40 PM
the thing is with Wii, the games look so assy they have to be really fucking good If I can be fucked playing them

i.e No More Heroes, amazing game, but i dont think theres going to be a game on par with it for a long time
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2008, 06:19:04 PM
the thing is with Wii, the games look so assy they have to be really fucking good If I can be fucked playing them

i.e No More Heroes, amazing game, but i dont think theres going to be a game on par with it for a long time

No More Heroes had style and humor going for it, but not a whole lot else, unfortunately.

o dear
 (http://kotaku.com/5016289/rumor-details-on-sonys-motion-controls-no-break+apart)
Quote
The control system, said the source, actually consists of a smaller-sized device that can attach to the body - and multiple devices are intended to be used in concert, such as wearing two on the hands to move a character's hands in-game, or four, on hands and feet at the same time to move a character's body.

Though the source admits the technology might have evolved since the last time it was seen, the source disputes the idea that any of these pieces merge to form a single controller. It is also unclear how the individual pieces will be packaged, whether individually or in sets.

It's not just waggle, it's FULL-BODY WAGGLE.

Uh...WOW, I guess...
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
o dear
 (http://kotaku.com/5016289/rumor-details-on-sonys-motion-controls-no-break+apart)
Quote
The control system, said the source, actually consists of a smaller-sized device that can attach to the body - and multiple devices are intended to be used in concert, such as wearing two on the hands to move a character's hands in-game, or four, on hands and feet at the same time to move a character's body.

Though the source admits the technology might have evolved since the last time it was seen, the source disputes the idea that any of these pieces merge to form a single controller. It is also unclear how the individual pieces will be packaged, whether individually or in sets.

It's not just waggle, it's FULL-BODY WAGGLE.

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p120/lulubleu/tron_guy.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Grecco on June 13, 2008, 06:26:20 PM
the thing is with Wii, the games look so assy they have to be really fucking good If I can be fucked playing them

i.e No More Heroes, amazing game, but i dont think theres going to be a game on par with it for a long time

Madworld.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: crimsondynamics on June 13, 2008, 08:05:32 PM
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

This is Sony  :bow2 to Nintendo.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Draft on June 13, 2008, 09:15:32 PM
Sounds like Sony is applying the same line of thought to waggle that they did to the rest of PS3 hardware. More. Bigger. Faster. Stronger.

They have lost sight of the Japanese way. This is why they are doomed.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: MCD on June 13, 2008, 09:18:10 PM
Sounds like Sony is applying the same line of thought to waggle that they did to the rest of PS3 hardware. More. Bigger. Faster. Stronger.

They have lost sight of the Japanese way. This is why they are doomed.
what if they released a slim ps3 this year or the next?
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Draft on June 13, 2008, 09:21:48 PM
Sounds like Sony is applying the same line of thought to waggle that they did to the rest of PS3 hardware. More. Bigger. Faster. Stronger.

They have lost sight of the Japanese way. This is why they are doomed.
what if they released a slim ps3 this year or the next?
What if they do? There's more to being bigger, faster and stronger than the shell you stuff a GPU and CELL BROADBAND ENGINE into.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Slo on June 13, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
 :-\ This is the worst case scenario for me. Nintendo kicking ass so hard is going to ruin gaming for non-soccer moms.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller
Post by: Bildi on June 13, 2008, 09:49:15 PM
o dear
 (http://kotaku.com/5016289/rumor-details-on-sonys-motion-controls-no-break+apart)
Quote
The control system, said the source, actually consists of a smaller-sized device that can attach to the body - and multiple devices are intended to be used in concert, such as wearing two on the hands to move a character's hands in-game, or four, on hands and feet at the same time to move a character's body.

Though the source admits the technology might have evolved since the last time it was seen, the source disputes the idea that any of these pieces merge to form a single controller. It is also unclear how the individual pieces will be packaged, whether individually or in sets.

It's not just waggle, it's FULL-BODY WAGGLE.

If this turns out to be true, that's just crazy.  Sony need to learn to keep it simple.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Grecco on June 14, 2008, 03:30:01 AM
Sounds like Sony is applying the same line of thought to waggle that they did to the rest of PS3 hardware. More. Bigger. Faster. Stronger.

They have lost sight of the Japanese way. This is why they are doomed.
what if they released a slim ps3 this year or the next?

lol a slim PS3 wont do shit.
Title: Re: Sony working on two-part PS3 controller (UPDATE: Magic waggle suit?!)
Post by: Scurvy Stan on June 14, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
2 screen PSP?