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Title: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 04:12:41 AM
GameStop SMs went out and saw this tonight.  It was totally fun and shot a lot better than Iron Man.  The climax was the best comic book fight filmed on screen.  Good shit.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 14, 2008, 04:15:06 AM
So it makes up for that 'climax' in the first one? Admittedly I still kind of like the first HULK movie so fuk off
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Reb on June 14, 2008, 04:24:10 AM
Does it have awesome supercanine dogs?
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 04:27:57 AM
I don't hate Ang Lee's film, but this really feels like a big budget version of the 70s television series - which I loved as a kid.  There's a ton of imagery lifted from the television show, including some classic music cues.  You can tell Ed Norton really loved the television show.

But - yeah! - the climax puts the original Hulk film to shame.  It puts every comic book film to shame.  These two huge monsters duke it out for like twenty minutes and it's totally awesome.  It doesn't pull any punches and revels in its comic book roots, which is something a lot of adaptations try to shake loose from but then force a phoney third act climax (I'm looking at you, Spider-Man!).

The guy who did this is the guy who did The Transporter and I guess that fits.  He's good at kinetic, fast paced action sequences.

Neat cameo from a recent Marvel film got a standing ovation.

Cinematography was really good too.  Looks much more cinematic than Iron Man, which I felt looked flat.

Several great .gifs can be stolen from this flick and used as Internet memes.  I won't spoil scenes, but there's a few, "O SNAP!" moments that totally satisfy that inner child that just wants to beat the shit out of folks that are assholes.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2008, 04:32:39 AM
The Bourne Hulkery.

Guy participating in a government experiment acquires dangerous abilities and goes AWOL.  For the first half of the movie he flees them through exotic urban settings but for the climax he takes the fight to them.  Intermittently he worries about endangering the woman he loves.

I liked it.  Really solid crowd-pleaser of an action movie.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 04:43:59 AM
Yeah, that's a fair comparison.  I even thought the same early on. :lol

But really, that's more in line with The Fugitive-esque narrative of the television show than the Bourne flicks.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2008, 05:02:29 AM
Never saw the TV show.  I did pick up on Lou Ferrigno's cameo when it happened (also Omar Little's breakout performance as Harlem Bystander) though.

Was this movie an official reset, or was the opening credits montage meant to represent more or less the events of the first, discarded movie?  I didn't see that one either.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 05:06:21 AM
It was pretty much a reset.  The opening credits montage was a lot of imagery lifted from the television show and comic books (a lot of stuff felt very Bruce Jones).  There was really nothing from Ang Lee's film.

Lou Ferrigno was also the voice of the Hulk.  That was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 05:10:27 AM
"THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE SINCE THAT ONE THAT CAME OUT TWO MONTHS AGO"
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 05:15:27 AM
I stand by my statement!

It's actually better than Iron Man, in my opinion.  Iron Man gave us a memorable character, but an uneven movie and a dull climax (the assault on the terrorists was the best part of the flick).  Hulk gives us a fun, exciting flick - but the character moments are thin.

That's about it.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: MCD on June 14, 2008, 05:16:39 AM
oh, i thought that was sarcastic.

looking forward to see this come monday.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 05:21:57 AM
I was being sarcastic, as was my initial reply.  I really didn't think this was going to be any good.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 14, 2008, 09:59:36 AM
I really hope it does well at the box office.  I'm a little worried people might have been too put off by Ang Lee's Hulk to go see this.  I'm going tonight and expect to be completely blown away in every regard.  All of the impressions I'm hearing make it sound like an absolute tour-de-force of action and entertainment.  The only naysayers are the taco elitist types that should all just rot in hell.  Seriously, how miserable and bitter must you be to not enjoy action flicks like this.  I just wanna curb every single one of them.  There's a few in the GAF thread.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 14, 2008, 10:29:16 AM
Just saw it last night, movie was ass. And wow, this guy had one of the worst performances that I've seen in a long time:

(http://chud.com/articles/content_images/24/hulk_tbn.jpg)

As shitty as it was, it was still better than the Ang Lee piece of shit.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 14, 2008, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: Kestastrophe on June 14, 2008, 10:29:16 AM
Just saw it last night, movie was ass.
Shut the fuck up
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: thekavorka on June 14, 2008, 10:45:54 AM
it actually wasn't that bad. it was a fun movie. but i thought the last fight was pretty lame. i thought the action set at the university was pretty awesome.

"hulk smash" was distinguished mentally-challenged. it's pretty cringe worthy when the hulk says stuff. it was dumb in the comics too.

and yeah, the scientist dude is a terrible actor. 

it feels like liv tyler only had one line: "bruuuuuce"

Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 14, 2008, 11:17:28 AM
HULK SMASH!!! was awesome.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Grecco on June 14, 2008, 12:20:13 PM
Is he 616 Hulk or Ultimates Hulk?
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:26:56 PM
hulk was awesome? i plan on seeing it maybe tonight with some friends
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 14, 2008, 03:25:24 PM
I'm gonna go see an awesome action movie about an unstoppable powerhouse this afternoon
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Kung-Fu Panda
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Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 14, 2008, 04:06:19 PM
women :/
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
Going in to Iron Man I didn't know who was playing Obadiah Stane, and going by the voice I figured it was William Hurt behind the beard.  Whoops.

Now I get to see a comic book movie with William Hurt as the bad guy and he doesn't have much to do.  None of the actors did, especially Tyler.  It's okay because the action and momentum keep up for almost all the movie, but the character side was really thin.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 14, 2008, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 14, 2008, 04:06:19 PM
women :/

:rofl
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 04:20:08 PM
yeah, i don't think i'll ever see kung fu panda

poor patel
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: brawndolicious on June 14, 2008, 07:22:28 PM
it wasn't that bad.  it's probably the best movie you can watch right now though.

spoiler:
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you just know that the scientist is going to be a villain in the avengers sequel though.  I don't think he'll be a very great villain but I might be wrong and the writers might have a big elaborate plan for them all.
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compared to Iron Man, it's a better movie overall but RDJ was better at playing Iron Man than Norton was at playing the Hulk.  They both will obviously have sequels (do not read the above if you have not seen the Hulk movie) so I hope they fix the flaws that each movie had.  both of them were good though so it's not a bad summer for the comic book movies.  TDK will suck probably but that's because of Bale and Nolan's style with batman so I'll just not watch that.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 14, 2008, 10:47:45 PM
Was a fun movie. I laughed at Stan Lee getting Gamma Ray poisoning but me laughing at that probably ruined my chance with any hot chick that probably heard me in the theater.

Its obviously not going to get praised for anything other than being a great popcorn flick but the "great popcorn flick" defense is the equal "it looks better in motion" defense for videogames. I still like Iron Man much better.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 15, 2008, 04:23:00 AM
Kung Fu Panda was wicked.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 15, 2008, 04:24:38 AM
yeah, kung fu panda was secretly awesome
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Mandark on June 15, 2008, 04:29:56 AM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 15, 2008, 04:24:38 AM
yeah, kung fu panda was secretly awesome

No way.  This is a ploy.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Eric P on June 15, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Quote from: Mandark on June 15, 2008, 04:29:56 AM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on June 15, 2008, 04:24:38 AM
yeah, kung fu panda was secretly awesome

No way.  This is a ploy.

yesterday at the martial arts thing, the guy who was giving the talk was telling us that KFP was quite good

but then when googling the guy later he also liked van helsing

a lot

but patel was right about Speed

speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 15, 2008, 11:56:05 AM
I'm gonna push to see this with my gf and her brother on Tues

Thank you Willco
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: border on June 15, 2008, 12:36:21 PM
Kudos to them for taking the scene that was obviously supposed to be "after the closing credits" and just putting it at the end of the damned movie.

That said though, all this Avengers/Nick Fury/SHIELD stuff seems like a fun fanboy handjob, but I get the sense that if all these characters were ever combined into one film then it'd be pretty goofy.  I really have no desire to see superhero crossover flicks.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 15, 2008, 01:42:51 PM
Well, I don't know, I think the Marvel universe, especially the Avengers shit, seems about the easiest and okay way to cross shit over.  It would NOT work with DC characters, I have a suspicion.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 15, 2008, 02:57:26 PM
"You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry" Almost the entire theatre applauded when it ended.  :lol It was really good,especially the final fight and the music.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 15, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
Saw it today.

It was actually pretty awesome. Action packed. And it ends with a nice peek into the future of Marvel in Hollywood.l
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 15, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
I hope you can tolerate him for another film because he's most likely going to be in the sequel. Like the main villian tolerate.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: border on June 16, 2008, 12:16:47 AM
Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on June 15, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
I hope you can tolerate him for another film because he's most likely going to be in the sequel. Like the main villian tolerate.

Considering that this movie had a worse opening than its awful predecessor, I don't think a sequel is guaranteed at all.  I was thinking that they could overcome public perception with a spectacular marketing blitz, but it looks like Ang Lee really poisoned the franchise.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 16, 2008, 12:30:24 AM
Uh, it outperformed studio expectations and the merchandising with Hulk is a goldmine.  Barring a drop like its predecessor (a record 70%), it'll get a sequel.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Mandark on June 16, 2008, 02:19:31 AM
I know a guy who runs concessions like arcade games and those claw-prize machines.  He's a cheap bastard* and was all over the Hulk merchandise six months after the Ang Lee movie.



*How cheap a bastard?  He was filling machines with Babe: Pig In The City plush toys as of two years ago.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Robo on June 16, 2008, 02:39:42 AM
They have those for the new Hulk too, but they're no longer foam.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 16, 2008, 02:50:57 AM
Hulk dialogue for the next film:

"PUNY HUMAN!"

Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: border on June 16, 2008, 02:55:48 AM
Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2008, 12:30:24 AM
Uh, it outperformed studio expectations and the merchandising with Hulk is a goldmine.  Barring a drop like its predecessor (a record 70%), it'll get a sequel.
So the studio really ok'ed a 150 million budget with the expectation that the movie was not going to perform any better than Ang Lee's Hulk?
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 16, 2008, 02:58:41 AM
First weekend?  No.  Universal/Marvel was expecting $40 million or so.

You don't think they take into account the baggage from a previous movie?  Warner Bros. did the same thing when the first weekend totals for Batman Begins came in.  It wasn't even the biggest opening weekend for a Batman film.

These films are more about merchandising that box office totals to begin with.  Hence the fact why we have a Hulk sequel/reboot to begin with after an underwhelming first entry.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Eric P on June 16, 2008, 07:29:18 AM
it's not about the artistic vision of the cast and crew?

it's all filthy lucre?

GASP
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 16, 2008, 07:47:12 AM
Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on June 15, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: Kestastrophe on June 14, 2008, 10:29:16 AM
Just saw it last night, movie was ass. And wow, this guy had one of the worst performances that I've seen in a long time:

(http://chud.com/articles/content_images/24/hulk_tbn.jpg)

As shitty as it was, it was still better than the Ang Lee piece of shit.

Which theatre did you go to?  You're lucky you didn't see me, cus you dogging this film makes me want to :punch :punch :punch
Mr. Blue or whatever his name was did have a really shitty performance though. 

Kalamazoo 10. And ugghhh, the theatre was full of little kids that talked the entire time. I should have added the caveat that I don't like comics, but I do own and love SPiderman 1+2 and Xmen 1+2 and Ironman was awesome.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on June 16, 2008, 11:31:40 AM
HULK....SMAAAAAAAASSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH!!

:hyper  :hyper   I really enjoyed it though I still feel

IM > Hulk

:bow RDJ :bow2
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 16, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Robert Downey Jr. makes Hulk better by his mere inclusion!
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on June 16, 2008, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Robert Downey Jr. makes Hulk better by his mere inclusion!

That was ultra sexy time for me too.  :-*  Oh, plus they had a preview for Tropic Thunder before Hulk so. :gun
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 16, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Robert Downey Jr. makes Hulk better by his mere inclusion!

Seriously. I wasn't expecting it either. Was "Captain America" being in it but getting cut out real? I wish they would have kept him in. All the Weapons Development talk and alluding back to WWII was just begging for his cameo.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on June 16, 2008, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: BlueTsunami on June 16, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Robert Downey Jr. makes Hulk better by his mere inclusion!

Seriously. I wasn't expecting it either. Was "Captain America" being in it but getting cut out real? I wish they would have kept him in. All the Weapons Development talk and alluding back to WWII was just begging for his cameo.

They're making a Capt. America movie though so they probably didn't want to spoil for non-nerds that he fights in WWII and falls into ice only to be thawed out like 50 years later.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tucah on June 16, 2008, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Robert Downey Jr. makes Hulk better by his mere inclusion!

Best part of the movie.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on June 16, 2008, 02:39:53 PM
Also, can we stop casting Liv Tyler please?  There are many more beautiful actresses who can act better than her and that are prettier.....please?
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Raban on June 16, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
I thought it was better than Iron Man.

Some scenes made me wtf, like
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hulk getting thrashed by special forces in the front of a goddamn college and nobody but two dork-ass kids with a cell phone are there
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But regardless, it was a solid popcorn flick. Good way to start the summer.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Raban on June 16, 2008, 10:52:14 PM
I agree, Liv Tyler is distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: HULK SMASH!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on June 16, 2008, 10:37:03 PM
I'm with ya, Taun.  She sucks

Quote from: Raban on June 16, 2008, 10:52:14 PM
I agree, Liv Tyler is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Mmmm, two at once.   :hump