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Title: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:26:04 PM

I was 200 on the scale yesterday.  It's been almost a decade since I"ve weighed that much.  :(

The goal is to lose about 15lbs in two months. 

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:26:59 PM

only if you get certain sandwiches.

just do it the simple way.  eat less, exercise more.  it's not rocket science.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2008, 01:27:23 PM

yea, if you eat it once a day. but you can just buy a pound of chicken breast and do the same thing while saving money

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Powerslave on June 17, 2008, 01:28:03 PM

I want to lose 10kg this summer.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:29:10 PM

I like to eat though.  I've to find a way to feel just as satiated while consuming less calories.

In terms of exercise, I've already started going to the gym.  I could do it during Summer but it'll be harder during the school year, especially once I have to start working at Hospitals.  

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2008, 01:29:51 PM

any babes in the gym so far? wow cali gyms must be full of hot women

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:33:16 PM

almost everyone likes to eat.  but you're jump starting your body into another mode.  your idea that you need to be satiated while still consuming less calories is what leads to half ass dieting and shitty commercial short cuts (subway!). 

just take 2 weeks of strict diet (fruit in the morning for breakfast, small split up lunch, small, light dinner) and hardcore exercise.  At least 40 minutes of aerobic exercise.  you will see a massive change in body weight and metabolism.  I guaran-fucking-tee it.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:33:42 PM

i need to lose about 15lbs.

I hate being fucking fat.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:34:19 PM

BTW, anything less than 20 minutes of a consistent elevated (target) heart rate is a waste of time.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:34:31 PM

Quote from: Amber Lambchops on June 17, 2008, 01:29:51 PM

any babes in the gym so far? wow cali gyms must be full of hot women

There are some at the local 24 hr fitness since it's a little more high end than most gyms.  

But there probably more in a rich neighborhood.   A friend that lives in Newport Beach told me that her local gym has lots of milfs and trophy wives with nice, enhanced bodies.  She knows because they walk around naked in the locker room.  

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:36:04 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:33:16 PM

almost everyone likes to eat.  but you're jump starting your body into another mode.  your idea that you need to be satiated while still consuming less calories is what leads to half ass dieting and shitty commercial short cuts (subway!). 

just take 2 weeks of strict diet (fruit in the morning for breakfast, small split up lunch, small, light dinner) and hardcore exercise.  At least 40 minutes of aerobic exercise.  you will see a massive change in body weight and metabolism.  I guaran-fucking-tee it.

 :'(

Ok, I'll start.  I just had cereal and 1% fat milk this morning. 

It's probably too much, right?

How about Oatmeal? 

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 01:38:01 PM

Just stop being a fucking baby and tone up instead of losing weight. 200 isn't bad at all.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 01:38:42 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:33:16 PM

almost everyone likes to eat.  but you're jump starting your body into another mode.  your idea that you need to be satiated while still consuming less calories is what leads to half ass dieting and shitty commercial short cuts (subway!). 

just take 2 weeks of strict diet (fruit in the morning for breakfast, small split up lunch, small, light dinner) and hardcore exercise.  At least 40 minutes of aerobic exercise.  you will see a massive change in body weight and metabolism.  I guaran-fucking-tee it.

Mups is one sexy mexy!  I'd put sour cream on his nipples and SUCK SUCK SUCK!  :-*

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:39:55 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 01:38:01 PM

Just stop being a fucking baby and tone up instead of losing weight. 200 isn't bad at all.

I'm only 5" 11.  Even though I have a wide frame, 200lbs is probably too much. 

When I'm in shape, I'm about 175. 

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 01:40:30 PM

make it really light if you're going to do that.  leave out the milk.  

if you consume too many calories early in the morning without physical activity before or directly afterwards, your body will focus all its energy on digestion instead of raising your metabolism to burn excess energy.  I say stick with fruit in the morning.  The sugar in the fruit will give you a little kick of energy, it's low as fuck in calories but enough to boost your metabolism.  

For breakfast:
1 apple
1 orange
1 banana

wait an hour and a half, or two hours and have another apple or orange or something to hold you off til lunch, give you another boost of energy and keep your metabolism paced.

After two weeks you can begin to loosen up and eat more normally because your body will be used to consuming calories on a more level basis and won't go out of whack with an influx of calories.

milk just has an obnoxious amount of calories but it will be great later after you lose the weight to build muscle because of the massive amounts of protein.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 01:40:49 PM

"only" 5" 11? That's not short, that's average. Just tone. There's no real need to lose weight at 200, it's not like you're morbidly obese or even fat. Just tone, tone, tone, tone, tone.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:51:47 PM

Muppy is a beef cake.

I fucked up my wrists a little bit last night hacking away at my punching bag. :lol Hitting it to damn hard.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:53:48 PM

Quote from: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:51:47 PM

Muppy is a beef cake.

I fucked up my wrists a little bit last night hacking away at my punching bag. :lol Hitting it to damn hard.

That's what you call it?  It must be huge.  :o

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Powerslave on June 17, 2008, 01:56:12 PM

lordmaji = wifebeater

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 02:00:55 PM

Quote from: Powerslave on June 17, 2008, 01:56:12 PM

lordmaji = wifebeater

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Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 02:08:15 PM

Quote from: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:51:47 PM

Muppy is a beef cake.

I fucked up my wrists a little bit last night hacking away at my punching bag. :lol Hitting it to damn hard.

I told you bro... stand far away enough to where your fist barely makes contact with the bag.  It's exactly to avoid incidents like that :( 

You probably did it on a hook too, didn't you?  hooks are the easiest to fuck up.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 02:09:45 PM

also, never hit the bag when it's coming your way.  In fact, you should be backing up as added aerobic exercise and just general form practice.  Only start firing when the bag begans to move away.  As soon as it gets to the peak of its swing and begins to come back at you, move back.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 02:11:55 PM

Also, never eat less than 2 hours before bed and don't exercise then sleep.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 02:13:15 PM

Quote from: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 02:11:55 PM

Also, never eat less than 2 hours before bed and don't exercise then sleep.

this as well.

although sleeping after exercise isn't nearly as bad.  it just kind of kills any heightened alert your body is on after your workout, so it's no longer burning calories in a relaxed mode and doesn't train your body too well.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 02:17:36 PM

Quote from: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 02:08:15 PM

Quote from: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:51:47 PM

Muppy is a beef cake.

I fucked up my wrists a little bit last night hacking away at my punching bag. :lol Hitting it to damn hard.

I told you bro... stand far away enough to where your fist barely makes contact with the bag.  It's exactly to avoid incidents like that :( 

You probably did it on a hook too, didn't you?  hooks are the easiest to fuck up.

several hooks. both wrists are sore.

Too much aggression while hacking away tends to do that. My bad :(

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 02:27:33 PM

go slow with hooks while you're working on your form.  it's really dangerous to do a hook with force while your wrists haven't developed to it.  And if your form isn't proper and your forearm isn't completely aligned with your wrist, it's easy to sprain your wrist.  be careful.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 02:30:53 PM

I remember when I once tried to do an uppercut on a punching bag with no glove on...


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Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 02:55:25 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 02:30:53 PM

I remember when I once tried to do an uppercut on a punching bag with no glove on...


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Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Pharmacy on June 17, 2008, 03:15:53 PM

subway diet? jesus fucking christ you'd need a bankloan with dem prices

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 03:26:41 PM

Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on June 17, 2008, 02:54:33 PM

i just fucked up my back worse than I ever have before I started my workout today.  All i was doing was warming up on some light dips and something got fucked.  Now I can barely drive, can't breathe deep at all, and it hurts to do anything at all.  This is the worst pain ever and it's almost completely immobilized me. 

:(

sharp pain? :(

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 04:48:13 PM

go to the doctor.  seriously.  any pain like that probably needs at least some sort of medical advice.  that's not a normal strain/pull

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Tauntaun on June 17, 2008, 05:18:11 PM

Quote from: Forgotten Ancient on June 17, 2008, 05:14:12 PM

but the food menu only includes pizza.  I might be out of commission at the gym for a few days...I'll never be fit again :gloomy

Mups, I hope you can at least love me for who I am.  There's more cushion for the pushin :hump

Call Demi.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Powerslave on June 17, 2008, 05:32:02 PM

demi 3 + added cut + all

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: abrader on June 17, 2008, 07:39:22 PM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2008, 01:39:55 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2008, 01:38:01 PM

Just stop being a fucking baby and tone up instead of losing weight. 200 isn't bad at all.

I'm only 5" 11.  Even though I have a wide frame, 200lbs is probably too much. 

When I'm in shape, I'm about 175. 

heh - we are exactly the same dimensions....and exactly the same amnt over-weight.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 07:47:56 PM

Quote from: dcharlie on June 17, 2008, 06:49:59 PM

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eat less, exercise more.  it's not rocket science.

Eat MORE, exercise more.

5 meals a day, but make the meals small , avoid carbohydrates after 2pm.

never go more than 4 hours without taking in a small meal.

the idea is to speed up your metabolism and create a calorie deficit :
i.e. the fact you have your body working all day breaking down smaller meals -added- to increased mild daily exercise will bring your weight down.

 

?

So basically he's still going to be eating less than what he already is?  Read how I broke down his meals earlier.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: APF on June 17, 2008, 08:05:54 PM

The first rule of losing weight is to know how much you're eating in the first place.  How can you know you're really eating less, if you don't know what your starting point is?  The reality is, most people underestimate the amount of food they actually eat, either deliberately [/subconsciously], or just because they have other things to think about and remember.  This is one of the reasons almost any diet that calls for strict portioning and / or calorie counting will work, since you'll go from who-knows-what to I-know-exactly-how-much.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 09:16:07 PM

yeah, i suggested he split up both breakfast and lunch to spread out the calorie intake.

and apf makes a very good point about why calorie counting is actually good.  after you start to count calories and think of it in that way, it makes you much more aware of what you're eating even when you're not on a diet so that you can maintain your weight loss.  it's something really good to learn

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Bildi on June 17, 2008, 09:36:21 PM

This looks like a good place to hide a Wii Fit post so not too many people see it - I don't want to lose too much street cred.  :lol

Anyone here using it?  I've been using it for around six weeks or so and it's been good.  I'm reasonably fit otherwise as I walk every day and I've been a gym-goer for years doing aerobics/core strength/flexibility/speed type things (never been so much into body building), and I'm careful about my diet.

I was curious about it so have added it to my regular routine.  I like the progress tracking and there's some pretty serious yoga poses and things in there that I'm enjoying trying to get better at.  As with all exercises, even the simplest ones have plenty to work on and think about to get them right.

Since I could certainly stand to shed some fat (I'd like to lose about 7kg at the moment) I do some Wii Fit in the early evening after work to raise my metabolism a bit when it's not a gym night.  I've lost around 2kg (4lbs or so) over six weeks which is nice.

I've noticed my stuff at the gym is improving a little quicker than usual since there's a lot of stretching and balance work in Wii Fit.  The balance games really are mostly games I think - I don't really do them as the yoga and 'weights' exercises incorporate tons of balance work. 

So if you're a "fitness person" you might enjoy it as a supplement.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2008, 09:53:04 PM

yeah, but then i'd have to buy a wii :(

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Bildi on June 17, 2008, 10:06:06 PM

If you don't already have a Wii, DEFINITELY not worth the price of admission.  :)

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 17, 2008, 10:23:29 PM

20 mins-plus of cardio is certainly NOT necessary IMHO. As little as 5 mins is enough if done at high intensity. I do less than 1hr of working out per week and I've made some huge changes in body composition over the past year. Anyone here who knows me can testify to that.

As ever, I'll pimp out:
http://crossfit.com/

All you need to get healthy, fit or even super-fit is right there. Different workouts every day, most of which can be done in less than 20 mins with equipment you can keep at home.

Check out stuff on the Zone diet as well; it really seems to work for athletes.

Title: Re: Does the Subway diet really work?
Post by: Boogie on June 18, 2008, 12:41:44 AM

Quote from: lordmaji on June 17, 2008, 01:51:47 PM

Muppy is a beef cake.

I fucked up my wrists a little bit last night hacking away at my punching bag. :lol Hitting it to damn hard.

Are you hitting without wraps and gloves?  Never hit a heavy bag without wraps and gloves.  That's the solution.

Hitting it "hard" shouldn't hurt your wrists, if you're using proper form.