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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 02:57:02 PM

Title: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 02:57:02 PM: I think. Turned it on, and I was greeted with a weird start-up; what looks like quite a few broken pixels across the screen, and then it hangs on the user select screen, or before it. Is the system toast? I don't know what in the hell could have happened, we had some distant thunder today, but I haven't noticed any power surges.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Crushed on June 23, 2008, 02:57:39 PM: Inject some Nectar.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: MCD on June 23, 2008, 03:01:48 PM: keep holding down the power button to reset the video settings, could be that.

or a fried gpu/powersupply, sorry dude.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:08:30 PM: Quote from: McDragon on June 23, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
keep holding down the power button to reset the video settings, could be that.

or a fried gpu/powersupply, sorry dude.

It definitely has the earmark of a fried system, although I don't know how exactly that happened. At first I thought it was just a typical system freeze (recently released firmware, you know), but the behavior has been consistent. FUCK. I fucking hate this generation.

Quote from: Crushed on June 23, 2008, 02:57:39 PM
Inject some Nectar.

Weak
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:10:08 PM: Do I get to keep the HDD if I return the system?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: hyp on June 23, 2008, 03:11:14 PM: if you have one with the EE chip make sure they send you a replacement with the EE chip!
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:12:30 PM: 'm not sure if that's even possible. I bought this one from Costco, which I think means that I also have to return and exchange it at Costco. And are there even 60gb systems available at this point?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: hyp on June 23, 2008, 03:13:23 PM: that sucks dude. so you're not going to send it to sony instead?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:13:33 PM: Inject some nectar
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Mupepe on June 23, 2008, 03:14:48 PM: that blows dude. i was scared like two weeks ago when it wouldn't give me my dvd back :(
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:15:21 PM: Quote from: hyp on June 23, 2008, 03:13:23 PM
that sucks dude. so you're not going to send it to sony instead?

I'm honestly not sure what Sony's replacement plan is. it's a launch system.

So, this generation so far:

2xXbox 360, RROD on both.

1x Playstation 3, not sure what in the hell happened.

1xWii. It works, but it's Wii.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:18:45 PM: PS3 breaks down and has no games to play? Wow, what a piece of shit console.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: hyp on June 23, 2008, 03:20:03 PM: MGS4 is that fucking good man. it BLOWS SHIT UP
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:22:01 PM: I haven't even played MGS4. :(
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: abrader on June 23, 2008, 03:34:25 PM: If its a launch PS3, send it to SONY and pay the repair fee.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Grecco on June 23, 2008, 03:42:09 PM: Reliable huh?

Anyways Costco only has a 90 day warranty on replacements you might have to send to Sony
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:51:05 PM: Quote from: Grecco on June 23, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
Reliable huh?

Anyways Costco only has a 90 day warranty on replacements you might have to send to Sony

That's a new policy then; I'm pretty sure the return policy I have features very few limitations. I could be wrong though, I'll have to look into it. And I'd sooner let the system rot than pay Sony to repair a system that it built that just upped and died.

And to be fair, the system lasted 3x as long as my first 360, and about twice as long as my second 360. Still, with this now being proven to be a doucheworthy console, I'm not sure I'll keep the replacement. If only Sucker Punch and Insomniac weren't exclusive to the PS3.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 23, 2008, 03:51:33 PM: This wouldnt have happened if you just used it as a bluray player like everyone else.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:58:44 PM: So Sony's own product warranty is only 12 months, is that correct?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Brehvolution on June 23, 2008, 04:02:29 PM: Quote from: Crushed on June 23, 2008, 02:57:39 PM
Inject some Nectar.
Quote from: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
PS3 breaks down and has no games to play? Wow, what a piece of shit console.
Quote from: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Inject some nectar

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Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 23, 2008, 04:06:43 PM: I smell a flip flop upcoming

Hope it wasn't 20/60GB

edit - i see that you are owned.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 23, 2008, 04:07:15 PM: ha ha, so the PS3's one "advantage" is gone?

Look on the bright side, Duckman. Now you get to spend more time with the PC and 360.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 04:09:17 PM: It's alive! :)

Still, that's not a normal error. I should probably call Sony about it, huh?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 23, 2008, 04:09:30 PM: Quote from: The Iconistrator on June 23, 2008, 03:51:33 PM
This wouldnt have happened if you just used it as a bluray player like everyone else.

My friend got a PS3 when Motorstorm came out and his doesn't play Blu Rays without skips and freezes. So now he's back to buying DVDs :lol
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Brehvolution on June 23, 2008, 04:10:45 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
It's alive! :)

Still, that's not a normal error. I should probably call Sony about it, huh?

Glad to hear.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 04:11:59 PM: The last time I proclaimed "it's alive" in reference to a console was when my first 360 showed the first signs of the impending RROD. So this one is still on deathwatch.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 23, 2008, 04:12:46 PM: Quote from: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
PS3 breaks down and has no games to play? Wow, what a piece of shit console.

Quote from: The Iconistrator on June 23, 2008, 03:51:33 PM
This wouldnt have happened if you just used it as a bluray player like everyone else.

Nailed it

:bow EB Icons :bow2
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Tieno on June 23, 2008, 04:16:36 PM: Where's your reliable hardware now, ducky? huh?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
mine is still going strong
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Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 04:21:28 PM: I'm starting to think that the motherfucker is sentient. Last night, I was talking about possibly ditching it in favor of a 360, simply because I didn't feel like waiting until 2009 to have a good game for the system. And today, it decides to slit its wrists ever so slightly.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 23, 2008, 04:28:16 PM: Why don't you just buy a 360 with a private warranty and park it next to the PS3.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Grecco on June 23, 2008, 04:32:43 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: Grecco on June 23, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
Reliable huh?

Anyways Costco only has a 90 day warranty on replacements you might have to send to Sony

That's a new policy then; I'm pretty sure the return policy I have features very few limitations. I could be wrong though, I'll have to look into it. And I'd sooner let the system rot than pay Sony to repair a system that it built that just upped and died.

And to be fair, the system lasted 3x as long as my first 360, and about twice as long as my second 360. Still, with this now being proven to be a doucheworthy console, I'm not sure I'll keep the replacement. If only Sucker Punch and Insomniac weren't exclusive to the PS3.

The Warranty was moved to just 90 days because people kept abusing it.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: tiesto on June 23, 2008, 04:38:16 PM: Quote from: demi on June 23, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
PS3 breaks down and has no games to play? Wow, what a piece of shit console.

You could always get one of the competitors... the Wii, which doesn't break down but has no games to play... or the 360, which breaks down but has a lot of games to play.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: demi on June 23, 2008, 04:40:42 PM: 360 :bow
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Shuri on June 23, 2008, 04:43:03 PM: btw I just dropped 1500 on two videocards to view this thread at 2046x1600; and it makes this thread looks GLORIOUS.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 05:01:12 PM: I think I solved the mystery here. When hooking the PS3 back up and putting it back in its spot, I noticed a fucking Care Bear plush behind the system. I'm thinking that might have blocked the exhaust vents, causing the thing to temporarily overheat. Well, I hope that's it.

Isn't there some sort of failsafe against overheating though? I was under the impression that the system would shut itself off if it reached a certain heat level. Or am I just assuming that it will have the same safeguards as a computer?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Crushed on June 23, 2008, 05:07:19 PM: spoiler (click to show/hide)
Nectar causes AA to see his sex toys as Care Bears.
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Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 05:08:29 PM: Quote from: Crushed on June 23, 2008, 05:07:19 PM
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Nectar causes AA to see his sex toys as Care Bears.
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Weakest one so far.

It's a fucking pain in the ass to find information about this on the web. Same thing as when I researched the RROD when that happened, it's damned near impossible to find good information as the channels are fucking clogged with blogs and message board posts made by fanboys for or against one system or the other who seem to consider it their life mission to either deny the issues or exaggerate them to hell and back. Idiots.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 23, 2008, 07:04:20 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 05:01:12 PM
Isn't there some sort of failsafe against overheating though? I was under the impression that the system would shut itself off if it reached a certain heat level. Or am I just assuming that it will have the same safeguards as a computer?

Not if the system still detects itself as functioning. A modern videocard will shut itself off it gets too hot but it could start having artifacts even before reaching that point.

It's likely a similar thing happened to your PS3. I wouldn't worry if the system works again. A little overheating usually doesn't cause permanent damage.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Bildi on June 23, 2008, 07:58:15 PM: Glad it's OK. :)

All consumer electronics are so shit nowadays - I'm sick of everything breaking down. :maf
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 23, 2008, 08:37:21 PM: EVGA always sends me out the replacement first if I ever needed one.

:bow PC hardware :bow2
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 23, 2008, 11:27:30 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on June 23, 2008, 05:01:12 PM
I think I solved the mystery here. When hooking the PS3 back up and putting it back in its spot, I noticed a fucking Care Bear plush behind the system. I'm thinking that might have blocked the exhaust vents, causing the thing to temporarily overheat. Well, I hope that's it.

Isn't there some sort of failsafe against overheating though? I was under the impression that the system would shut itself off if it reached a certain heat level. Or am I just assuming that it will have the same safeguards as a computer?

It's perfectly possible to fry a PC CPU or video card too though - too little silicon gel or a busted fan and whoosh, up they go. It can happen too fast for the safeguards to kick in.

Anyway, glad to hear yours is back to life. Hopefully there is no permanent damage.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 23, 2008, 11:51:24 PM: Duckman's artifacts sound like the ones that happen when a videocard is overclocked a bit too much. It's no big deal if the PS3's working again.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on August 21, 2008, 01:56:30 PM: The motherfucker did it again. 3 times in a week now. Room temperature has never gone above 74, and the last time it froze it had been running idle for like 20 minutes. :(
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 21, 2008, 02:01:20 PM: Sounds like there's some permanent damage to the GPU or ram. Modern hardware should definitely function properly at 74 degrees.

My room temp is 86 or above and my PC never crashes. Don't tell them about blocking the exhaust though if you call tech support. They might blame the problems on that even though a system is supposed to shut down if it gets too hot.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on August 21, 2008, 02:08:32 PM: That bear shouldn't have been able to cause it in the first place, though. It's a mini-plush, and was only leaning against a small portion of the exhaust vent. Not that it matters, I certainly wouldn't mention it any way. It's going to be a pain in the ass though; it was purchased using someone elses Costco account. Good thing it's all dry on the PS3 front until November.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 21, 2008, 02:12:13 PM: If you don't mind no BC with the new models, why not let your friend try returning it at Costco? Anything that was bought before they changed their electronic returns policy to 3 months, is still under the old policy and can be returned easily.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on August 21, 2008, 02:30:15 PM: Yeah, that'd be the plan. The weird thing about this whole deal is that it never happens while playing a game. I've put in several consecutive hours of Burnout Paradise and COD4, with no crashes or other signs of instability. It only seems to occur when it's idle.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Mupepe on August 21, 2008, 02:47:01 PM: that blows dude :(
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Bocsius on August 21, 2008, 02:52:04 PM: 3 times in a week, you say? Just so happens to be the same week you got that 360, too.

Maybe the PS3 is trying to off itself. Can't stand the noise.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Mupepe on August 21, 2008, 03:03:03 PM: It's trying to commit Seppuku since it's now in the presence of a real gaming machine
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2008, 10:27:38 PM: If your PS3 totally shits out, can we expect 2 years of constant bitching about it?
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: duckman2000 on August 21, 2008, 10:37:34 PM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2008, 10:27:38 PM
If your PS3 totally shits out, can we expect 2 years of constant bitching about it?

I didn't start bitching about the 360 until I ran into the denial patrol. Microsoft's bullshit moves towards accessory dependency and having a second system crap out didn't help, but most of my nerd rage regarding the 360 stems from that denial bullshit. I'm sure I'll bitch about being forced to accept a downgraded system though, so don't you worry.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Bocsius on August 21, 2008, 10:47:44 PM: Just buy a PS2 slim! [/sonytard]
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Bloodwake on August 21, 2008, 11:06:43 PM: Quote from: hyp on June 23, 2008, 03:20:03 PM
MGS4 is that fucking good man. it BLOWS SHIT UP

Truth. If my Triple can handle MGS4, it can handle anything.
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 22, 2008, 12:05:01 AM: Call sony. Back your shit up now while it still works, and deactivate it through account management so you don't lose anything and you don't eat an account activation on a dead system.

WORST case scenario, you call sony and get an out of warranty replacement for like 150$. A buddy of mine had his dic drive give out and did this, took about 2 weeks, not even, and got a replacement (60gb launch unit btw).
Title: Re: Not good - The Crapstation 3 just crapped out
Post by: Brehvolution on August 22, 2008, 09:42:01 AM: Don't focus on the problem. Focus on the repair. ::)