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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: AdmiralViscen on June 29, 2008, 04:16:39 PM

Title: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 29, 2008, 04:16:39 PM
But because I know what you’re going to ask about, and because we don’t traffic in rumors and/or speculation, I invite you to come back to the Blog tonight (just shy of midnight Pacific). We’ve got a video to show you.


Planning 2 videos, 5 or so mins each. One for XMB features and one for Trophies. None of the previous videos has been a short as 90 seconds, just as long as it takes to show off the features and not make you sit through a lot of fluff.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-5/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/28/the-psb-socomcom-weekly-recap-5/comment-page-2/#comment-75089
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 29, 2008, 04:20:40 PM
Videos? How about just fucking releasing the update already?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tieno on June 29, 2008, 04:24:41 PM
Why not make a thread when the actual video is released?

I'd like to announce in this post that I'll be viewing that video when it's released.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 29, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
I dunno I saw it and I thought it was nifty
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on June 29, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
we need a banner.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on June 29, 2008, 05:45:28 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 29, 2008, 06:00:32 PM
pwned
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 29, 2008, 06:08:48 PM
lmfao @ jarosh
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 06:12:13 PM
so why is this such a big deal
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 29, 2008, 06:15:27 PM
so why is this such a big deal

In game XMB and stuff. PS3, the only console where a Firmware release gets as much fanfare as an actual game!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 06:17:10 PM
In game XMB and stuff.

...uh
so why is this such a big deal
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 29, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
In game XMB and stuff.

...uh
so why is this such a big deal

SNARKY AM YOU >:(

But In Game XMB is pretty cool, you should be able to access other shit rather easily without having to drop out of the game entirely.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 29, 2008, 06:23:01 PM
In game XMB and stuff. PS3, the only console where a Firmware release gets as much fanfare as an actual game!

360 gets fanfare whenever they release their updates.  People from 1up/IGN/Gamespot/Gametrailers (one of them) get paid to go on video and talk about the new dashboard updates for like 20 minutes.  That blows my mind.

And yeah, it is good to finally get these features that should have been there day 1.  It is annoying to see the pop up saying there is a new message, then you have to either quit out of the game or remember to check it whenever you are done playing.  That is annoying.  Plus there is also talk about custom sound tracks and all that stuff as well as the whole trophies thing.  Basically, this update is attempting to match up with some of the features that separate it from the 360.  There was even that bump to 100 people on your friends list just recently.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 06:23:26 PM
SNARKY AM YOU >:(

But In Game XMB is pretty cool, you should be able to access other shit rather easily without having to drop out of the game entirely.

I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly confused. It's a nice feature, sure, but... really? Threads of anticipation about videos?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on June 29, 2008, 06:24:57 PM
videos of firmware

videos.  of firmware.

videos

of

firmware

BE EXCITED


WHY ARENT YOU EXCITED?!?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 29, 2008, 06:27:40 PM
"Firmware x.x" is sort of like the PS3's "65nm"
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 29, 2008, 06:28:08 PM
In game XMB and stuff. PS3, the only console where a Firmware release gets as much fanfare as an actual game!

360 gets fanfare whenever they release their updates.  People from 1up/IGN/Gamespot/Gametrailers (one of them) get paid to go on video and talk about the new dashboard updates for like 20 minutes.  That blows my mind

That is true. I guess Microsoft 360 updates are done only once a year, we're not exposed to it as often (like on the PS3).

SNARKY AM YOU >:(

But In Game XMB is pretty cool, you should be able to access other shit rather easily without having to drop out of the game entirely.

I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly confused. It's a nice feature, sure, but... really? Threads of anticipation about videos?

MGS4 has been out and there's nothing on the horizon currently. People have to anticipate something.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 06:28:39 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/WaltonSimons.jpg)

"I have the latest version of the firmware."
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 29, 2008, 06:57:10 PM
bluetsunami's sfag is coming out in this thread, you know he's persperating trying to punch those keys
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on June 29, 2008, 06:57:51 PM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15103.0

Look at all the trolling here. Only sfags get worked up over updates.

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amirite
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Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 29, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
^ lol, remember when we were excited about that, we were sending messages to each other in-game? good times.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 07:08:02 PM
quick create more gifs of bill gates crying and shooting himself and ms going bankrupt and maybe god fucking the ps3 and declaring it jesus 2.4 because firmware 2.4 is so awesome omg i can access a menu in a game holy fuck sony sony sony sony
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 29, 2008, 07:12:53 PM
gaf thread total
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 07:14:04 PM
gaf thread total
the gaf thread is much worse

it's a virtual ipecac

fitting, since many of the posts are like digital vomit
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on June 29, 2008, 07:25:29 PM
nAH, i THINK 'DIs trEaDS WERSE
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on June 29, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
360 doesn't get updates because it provides basic functionality out of the box
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 29, 2008, 07:55:25 PM
360 doesn't get updates because it provides basic functionality out of the box
...but it does get updates?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 29, 2008, 07:58:09 PM
360 doesn't get updates because it provides basic functionality out of the box

Did you actually buy a launch 360? It's hardly an excuse for Sony taking fucking forever to get this shit done, but the 360 has been improving since launch.

I guess it's telling though that the PS3 launched with more robust media playback functionality, whereas the 360 got the community deal right from the start. This generation  :(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 29, 2008, 08:10:32 PM
360 doesn't get updates because it provides basic functionality out of the box

Did you actually buy a launch 360?


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Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Draft on June 29, 2008, 08:12:38 PM
You don't have to be an Xbot to recognize Splinter Cell as the dominate IP in the stealth genre.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 29, 2008, 08:12:44 PM
i made one for gaf




(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/jarosh-gaf/firmwarebanner.jpg)


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11762527&postcount=122
:rofl
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on June 29, 2008, 08:25:18 PM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15103.0

Look at all the trolling here. Only sfags get worked up over updates.

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amirite
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We were excited about an update, not a fucking video of said update. Oh and remember, the xbox 360 doesn't get updates every other week or so just to play catch-up with the competition.

I meant to look at the trolling in that dashboard update thread. There was none. Just people happy about the added features which is what you would think might happen when the PS3 gets an update.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on June 29, 2008, 08:31:47 PM
we are not trolling the ps3, we are just laughing at "waiting for firmware videos" and banners.

at least i am.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tabasco on June 29, 2008, 08:32:55 PM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15103.0

Look at all the trolling here. Only sfags get worked up over updates.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
amirite
[close]

That thread was in anticipation for the actual firmware release.  To restate:  the gaf thread is in anticipation of video of a firmware update.  These things are not alike.

great gif jarosh
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on June 29, 2008, 08:35:04 PM
360 doesn't get updates because it provides basic functionality out of the box

Did you actually buy a launch 360? It's hardly an excuse for Sony taking fucking forever to get this shit done, but the 360 has been improving since launch.

Yes I did. And as you said 360 has been improving on the basic functionality it provides out of the box - ie in game messaging and friends lists among other things. They added the other stuff later because it was less important (sup messenger)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tucah on June 29, 2008, 08:37:07 PM
:bow In-Game XMB :bow2

(I guess, I sort of don't see the big deal about a video of an update)

Awesome banner though, jarosh  :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 08:41:21 PM
oh my god stay away from the gaf thread it's become pure gaffailium, the element which powers all that is wrong with gaf

it will consume and destroy the internet if it is not killed
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 29, 2008, 09:29:52 PM
so then stop reading!!!!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 29, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
Its Crushed, hes probably at home and strapped to a machine that keeps his eyelids open while random GAF threads flash before his eyes. There's also a black nob that enters his butthole but I don't really understand the purpose of that part of the machine, my theory is its there to agitate him.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Grecco on June 29, 2008, 10:13:15 PM
That thread is pretty fucking sad.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 29, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
 :lol @ jarosh pic

I have to say, I don't get the slippers though. Maybe 'cause I don't read GAF.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 29, 2008, 10:48:03 PM
Let's make some custom avatars

YEAAAAAAAAH

(http://i26.tinypic.com/34pgwav_th.jpg)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 29, 2008, 10:51:15 PM
Reading the GAF thread, I'm not convinced that all of these guys understand that it's not the actual update itself that is coming tonight.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Crushed on June 29, 2008, 10:56:05 PM
Reading the GAF thread, I'm not convinced that all of these guys understand that it's not the actual update itself that is coming tonight.

It's gonna be fun when it hits and they realize it's just a video of a menu.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Narag on June 29, 2008, 11:32:02 PM
OP in the gaf thread is this awesome self-parody but it seems like others are lost due to the fanfare involved.  :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on June 30, 2008, 12:00:15 AM
i will laugh if they announce a Q4 timeframe for it
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 12:31:29 AM
SNARKY AM YOU >:(

But In Game XMB is pretty cool, you should be able to access other shit rather easily without having to drop out of the game entirely.

I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly confused. It's a nice feature, sure, but... really? Threads of anticipation about videos?

With this functionality I will have a reason to turn to my PS3 for gaming, when that becomes applicable.

I want to see if they actually come through all the way or if the implementation will be half assed, hence video.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 02:58:16 AM
OMG CAST YE NOT GUILTY ITS UP! http://www.viddler.com/explore/sceablog/videos/40/

PEW PEW PEW DRDRDRDRDRD

Pretty much catching up with the 360 for most of the features:

-Custom soundtracks, although it seems you manually have to turn off music in the game unlike the 360 which does it automatically.  Game sound still play

-Pretty much all features from the normal XMB can be used in game.  You can also jump from one game to another through in game XMB without needing to drop out to the main XMB.

-Google search icon

-Clock with date.

Trophies are gonna be in the next video.  No release date yet for the actual release of it.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on June 30, 2008, 03:13:52 AM
Quote
He said "it" supports the majority of PS3 games, does that mean some games don't allow in-game XMB?

LOUL if this isn't 100% compatible
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 03:15:54 AM
I assume it was about custom soundtracks.  Not all games let you stop only music and keep just game sounds.  It was a bit weird.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tieno on June 30, 2008, 03:18:26 AM
Nevermind
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on June 30, 2008, 04:06:33 AM
I feel bad for anyone who stayed up solely to watch that video

me I just unlocked the flare gun in tf2

PC :bow
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 04:28:04 AM
That 2.4 XMB kills the X360's Sling Blade.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 30, 2008, 07:33:01 AM
What about friend invites?  There was no mention of invites at all.  Let's say I'm playing Battlefield and I see someone who just turned on their PS3 and is in the XMB, can I invite them to my game?  What if they're playing some other game (cross-game invites)?

And what about voice chat?  Being able to have a private chat with someone who's playing another game or whatever.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 07:42:02 AM
I don't think anything has been said about friend invites when in games, so don't count on it.

As for chats between games, some pictures allude to this, but don't get your hopes up.

btw, the trophy video is up in like 30 minutes apparently.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on June 30, 2008, 07:46:27 AM
:lol if this update doesnt even include friend invites
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 07:54:47 AM
It isn't like it was planned for this update.  It was being planned and shown for Home, and we already know that most of the features in Home are going to also have a 2D/UI way of doing it.  So expect it later, just not sooner.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 30, 2008, 07:56:47 AM
But I don't want to use Home to invite friends into games.  Fuck that shit.  I'm sure a lot of people agree with me.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 07:59:05 AM
Hence the 2D/UI equivalent of it.  So, you shouldn't need to use Home.


btw, the actual firmware 2.4 is out in 2 days.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 30, 2008, 08:35:45 AM
you fartbrains don't even use your ps3s for anything other than blu-rays (which everyone points out on this board many times per day)

so who cares what the gaming firmware is

OMG IT DOESNT HAVE DOWNLOADING WHEN THE SYSTEM IS OFF  :rofl :rofl ps3 :rofl

edit: I actually would like downloading when the system is off.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 30, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
So Sony rips, basically, XBL features.

That's cool because, it's free. But they don't rip the friend invite system? lolol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 08:42:05 AM
Friend invites are already confirmed, just not for this update.

And I don't even need downloading when on stand by, just a simple auto turn off when download completes would be nice.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: y2kev on June 30, 2008, 08:46:04 AM
What exactly do you mean by "friend invites"? Like cross game?

Some games have messages that allow you to join a game...I wonder if those would work from within another game. I will have to try it with games I know that support it.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 08:52:57 AM
Oh, and the not 100% thing does seem to be about custom soundtracks.

yeah yeah,  :rofl PS3 can't even copy the 360 right!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 09:23:56 AM
That 2.4 XMB kills the X360's Sling Blade.



http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/30/ps3-firmware-2-40-the-good-the-bad-and-the-belated/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/30/ps3-firmware-2-40-the-good-the-bad-and-the-belated/)

-You can, for example, message a friend that you are currently playing Resistance and would like them to join you, but there's no option to send any sort of game invite. That functionality will instead be up to developers to build into their games.

-Sony confirmed that it is not possible to initiate a private voice chat and keep your friend with you across games as on Xbox Live.

-The ability to stream your own music off the HDD during gameplay is a feature of 2.40, but only works in games that have been designed to utilize it.


Sounds pretty half-assed to me. At least the trophy system looks cool.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 30, 2008, 09:48:05 AM
What exactly do you mean by "friend invites"? Like cross game?



Yeah cross game invites.

I'm playing MGS4, you are playing burnout, you send me an invite, i accept, it automatically goes to the dashboard, i put in burnout and i automatically go to your game room.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 10:09:50 AM
This update will be out late Tuesday night for those in the U.S.


So many bitter tears in this thread.  With each new PS3 firmware update you can see the Xbots feeling more threatened.  Xbots keep saying they're not threatened, but yet they keep posting about how unthreatened they feel.  :lol


The 360 has had these features for a long time now, so really they aren't groundbreaking, but you guys just look so insecure when you talk about it over and over again.


Oh, and to those who love to bring up "cross game invites" in threads like this.  I've got a question for you.  When was the last time you accepted a cross game invite?  I only ask becuase the last time I did it, was probably sometime in 2007.  Can't even remember exactly.  In other words, it's a very rare occurance, and more often than not, friends don't even wait for you to join their game.

Case in point.  I'm playing GRID, and my friend sends me a COD4 invite.  By the time I exit GRID, put in COD4, and load up COD4 to join that invite, 99% of the time those people have already joined a new game, and you just join their next game anyway.  So that initial invite was really just a prompting to get you into that game, and not really a way to directly join their game.  Although that is possible of course, I just don't think it happens very often.  In other words, people can accomplish the exact same goal on the PS3 by just sending you a message that says "Let's play COD4".  You quit your current game, pop in whatever game they mentioned, and away you go. 

Just something to think about Xbots, but now I'll wait for you to all call me a Sonybot because I brought up the painfully obvious observations you'd all rather ignore.  :lol  But don't mind me, and continue carrying on with your system warz.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Mupepe on June 30, 2008, 10:17:14 AM
so basically you're slow is what you're saying?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 10:19:24 AM
So many bitter tears in this thread.  With each new PS3 firmware update you can see the Xbots feeling more threatened.  Xbots keep saying they're not threatened, but yet they keep posting about how unthreatened they feel.  :lol
Really? I don't see any melt downs or tears in this thread. Did I glance over said bitter tears?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 10:21:18 AM
So many bitter tears in this thread.  With each new PS3 firmware update you can see the Xbots feeling more threatened.  Xbots keep saying they're not threatened, but yet they keep posting about how unthreatened they feel.  :lol
Really? I don't see any melt downs or tears in this thread. Did I glance over said bitter tears?

Bitter tears can take on many forms.  People who simply feel the need to bash these additional PS3 features look an awful lot like bitter tears to me.  Why the need to bash this firmware update?  It's free and it adds a lot of nice features.  The only motive I see for people bashing is because they're afraid of how this might compare to Xbox Live.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 10:27:31 AM
The only motive I see for people bashing is because they're afraid of how this might compare to Xbox Live. 

Isn't the point of these updates for PSN to offer similar features to Live? I think it's only natural to compare the two, especially when many of the features are direct responses to Live dashboard (i.e. Achievement/Trophy system).
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 30, 2008, 10:31:29 AM


Oh, and to those who love to bring up "cross game invites" in threads like this.  I've got a question for you.  When was the last time you accepted a cross game invite?  I only ask becuase the last time I did it, was probably sometime in 2007.  Can't even remember exactly.  In other words, it's a very rare occurance, and more often than not, friends don't even wait for you to join their game.



Uh, no. I accept them all the time. Maybe if you have shitty friends, which is not a surprise because you sound like a shitty guy yourself, they won't wait for you, but that's not what normally happens at all, to other people.

Cross invites is huge, not to mention private channel talk, from what i understand this doesn't support it. Can't count the amount of times me and a friend of mine ventured into ranking matches together, composed of people we don't know, and used the private channel. Comes extra handy when he land in opposite teams.

But yeah, cross invite is big. And if you stopped being such a Sony cigarillo you would acknowledge it. Oh and i have left Xbox live like 2 months ago, i'm not paying anymore, so i'm actually transferring(trying to) my online play to the PS3. It's failing hard though, the community is shit, people hardly talk, heck i can't talk because i don't have an headset. Feels dead. I might go back to Xbox live before long.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 10:40:59 AM
The only motive I see for people bashing is because they're afraid of how this might compare to Xbox Live. 

Isn't the point of these updates for PSN to offer similar features to Live? I think it's only natural to compare the two, especially when many of the features are direct responses to Live dashboard (i.e. Achievement/Trophy system).

Yeah, comparisons are fine, but I've seen a lot of "disaster" labels being called out, and general stupidity from people trying to pretend this update accomplishes very little, when we all know that isn't true.


Quote from: WrikaWrek
Uh, no. I accept them all the time. Maybe if you have shitty friends, which is not a surprise because you sound like a shitty guy yourself, they won't wait for you, but that's not what normally happens at all, to other people.

Cross invites is huge, not to mention private channel talk, from what i understand this doesn't support it. Can't count the amount of times me and a friend of mine ventured into ranking matches together, composed of people we don't know, and used the private channel. Comes extra handy when he land in opposite teams.

But yeah, cross invite is big. And if you stopped being such a Sony cigarillo you would acknowledge it. Oh and i have left Xbox live like 2 months ago, i'm not paying anymore, so i'm actually transferring(trying to) my online play to the PS3. It's failing hard though, the community is shit, people hardly talk, heck i can't talk because i don't have an headset. Feels dead. I might go back to Xbox live before long.

Oh, now I'm being told I'm a "shitty guy".  :lol  You come off like a real charming human being as well.


Cross game invites might be "HUGE" for you, but I think for the majority of Xbox Live users they have become a neat idea that doesn't mean much in the end for most people.  Then you tried to change the subject into private chat, which had nothing to do with cross game invites.  We still don't know for sure that private chat isn't available in game on the PS3, but it would certainly be a nice feature, as I think a lot more people find that useful when compared to cross game invites.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 10:52:30 AM
I must admit im surprised to see such a GAF/OA thread like this here.

Anyway - the PS3 XMB is awesome and you all know it.

ITs getting features that it could/should have had 2 years ago yes.

/thread

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2008, 11:18:00 AM
I like what I see about 2.40. It's nice to see ps3 have features it should have had 2 years ago. I like how you can go from game to game without even going to the dash like on 360.

And the gamercards look pretty cool.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 11:24:49 AM
I like what I see about 2.40. It's nice to see ps3 have features it should have had 2 years ago. I like how you can go from game to game without even going to the dash like on 360.

And the gamercards look pretty cool.

That is a good point that is very clearly ignored on this board.  The PS3 is capable of various features like the one you mentioned that are simply not possible on the 360. 

Both machines have their pluses and minuses. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 11:28:54 AM
And the 360 interface is just a clunky, cluttered piece of shit in general. Eliminate the one exclusive strength it has, and it really shines through as a junior Flash project. The 360 has Crackdown, that's its single "plus".
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Grecco on June 30, 2008, 11:29:08 AM
You dont have to go to the dash to go to a different game. Unless its an xbla game.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2008, 11:32:08 AM
Yeah, the xmb interface looks far more appealing in general

360's is balls
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2008, 11:38:06 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11771459&postcount=1552

wtf
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 11:38:17 AM
Yeah, the xmb interface looks far more appealing in general

360's is balls
Not only that, but it takes forever to load your videos and arcade games. Especially if you have alot stored on your HDD, it can take up to 20 seconds to load.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2008, 11:42:32 AM
I can't fucking play my xbox originals games unless i'm hooked up to xbl. I don't have a router here and in order to play my original xbox disc games I have to fucking have it (the 360) hooked up to the internet just to play OLD xbox games. And yes, I dled the bc updates in the past.

It even struggles to play Crackdown without xbl because I dled the patch in the past, and it freezes at the start screen because it's checking the patch but there's no xbl.

xbl being integrated into EVERYTHING makes a lot of 360 such shit.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: hyp on June 30, 2008, 12:15:56 PM
they should've just copied the gamerscore as well.  SONY IS SO INNOVATIVE!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 12:20:40 PM
I like the idea of having levels instead of a cumulative gamer score. I don't know if it will be better, but it would be cool to have something different.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: hyp on June 30, 2008, 12:28:29 PM
i kinda got over the achievements/gamerscore thing months ago.  i doubt this leveling/trophy system will compel me to play any of my ps3 backlog.  which is like 3 games.  i don't buy enough ps3 games  :-\
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 12:30:59 PM
Watching first video, this is certainly better than I was letting myself expect. Very nice I think, switching games is a great feature. lol @ people being amazed at being to turn on your bluetooth without exiting a game. I never know if my headset is working with the damn thing.

But yea, they'd better get some cross game invites and private chat.

Very nice, PS3 achieves functionality.

I'm gonna have to get my PS3 wireless worked out in time for this



edit: great, more shit under the Games tab. Give me a way to sort that by folder please. The 'trophies' themselves aren't really any cooler looking than the little images next to Achievements, I thought there was gonna be more to that. I wonder if every game is required to support it, it already seems sorta lame when most of the games you already have don't include any.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
what a fucking disaster - any guesses on when 2.4 is actually coming?

i mean, this isn't the first time ingame XMB has been demo'ed....


2.4 is coming in two days.  So two days between the video and release of the firmware.

And this is the first time ingame XMB has been shown officially, that is unless you count what was shown before the interface was final before the PS3 launch.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 02:13:55 PM
Watching first video, this is certainly better than I was letting myself expect. Very nice I think, switching games is a great feature. lol @ people being amazed at being to turn on your bluetooth without exiting a game. I never know if my headset is working with the damn thing.

But yea, they'd better get some cross game invites and private chat.

Very nice, PS3 achieves functionality.

I'm gonna have to get my PS3 wireless worked out in time for this



edit: great, more shit under the Games tab. Give me a way to sort that by folder please. The 'trophies' themselves aren't really any cooler looking than the little images next to Achievements, I thought there was gonna be more to that. I wonder if every game is required to support it, it already seems sorta lame when most of the games you already have don't include any.


No, every game is not going to be required to support this.  At least that has always been my understanding about the way Sony handles such matters.  It's almost always left up to the developers.  If they want to do it, they can, if not, oh well.


Personally I really hate this loose care free policy Sony has chosen to take with things like this.  There needs to be more structure, and gamers end up being hurt when there isn't any.  Case in point.  Microsoft's stricter policies are exactly why 360 Rock Band owners were able to use Guitar Hero guitars with the game.  Sony chose not to be pushy, and gamers suffered.

That is just stupid IMO, and it's one example of Sony just not getting it when it comes to certain aspects of modern game development.  This whole trophies mess is also just a result of those same policies.  Forever there are gonna be PS3 owners who own some games that have trohpies, and other games that won't.  That's just lame and defeates the purpose of exactly what Micorosft went for with the gamercard.  A personal history of all the games you've played on that platform.  Sony will never be able to achieve that with the PS3 now.  


On the topic of older games, I do think many of their first part games will recieve patches to enable trophies.  I also think a few of the stand up third party developers will patch them in as well.  Starting with Burnout Paradise, which I think will get trophies on July 10th.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 02:25:41 PM
That's just lame and defeates the purpose of exactly what Micorosft went for with the gamercard.  A personal history of all the games you've played on that platform.  Sony will never be able to achieve that with the PS3 now.

I can't believe you're comparing this remarkably unimportant feature to that of the GH/RB accessory sharing.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 02:27:00 PM
The loose policy they have isn't exactly bad.  Look at games like CoD4 which have better online with the PS3 than the 360.  Not being required to do online one way has its benefits, but then again it has its problems.  See MGO for the problems it can cause.

The big problem facing the PS3 getting these new additions like custom soundtrack and cross game invites and all is that on Day 1 it wasn't build for this stuff.  They can only patch it is, so the things before the patch are going to have problems.  Hopefully it becomes like Rumble where after this week, every game has trophy, custom soundtrack, and whatever other support built in.  This all should have been there day 1, but since it wasn't, it is causing a problem.

Oh, and as for the GH3 guitar working with Rock Band being some sort of Microsoft forcing them or something.  It was more of a fluke on their part.  The GH4 guitar is apparently not going to work for Rock Band.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 02:31:25 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

It is totally gay if this isn't required for all games.


edit - in what way is COD4 better online on PS3?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Third on June 30, 2008, 02:32:28 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

I hope the trophies detect your savegames or something. I'm so not replaying the games for the trophies.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 02:40:41 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

It is totally gay if this isn't required for all games.


edit - in what way is COD4 better online on PS3?

Dedicated servers.  It may have been another game, but I'm not sure.  It actually may have been Bad Company where everyone was saying that the PS3 online was better because of those dedicated servers.  I don't have any personal experience with it since any multi-platform games are played on my 360 or PC.

And don't expect to have trophies added automatically once the update drop.  I would be really surprised if it did.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 30, 2008, 02:43:10 PM
Achievements are cool now, guys
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 30, 2008, 02:54:53 PM
I hope the trophies detect your savegames or something. I'm so not replaying the games for the trophies.
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-firmware-2-40/ (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-firmware-2-40/)

Trophies will not be retroactively awarded based on save data.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Third on June 30, 2008, 03:00:17 PM
I hope the trophies detect your savegames or something. I'm so not replaying the games for the trophies.
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-firmware-2-40/ (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-firmware-2-40/)

Trophies will not be retroactively awarded based on save data.

Ahh, thanks for the link.

Pretty stupid though.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

It is totally gay if this isn't required for all games.


edit - in what way is COD4 better online on PS3?

Dedicated servers.  It may have been another game, but I'm not sure.  It actually may have been Bad Company where everyone was saying that the PS3 online was better because of those dedicated servers.  I don't have any personal experience with it since any multi-platform games are played on my 360 or PC.

And don't expect to have trophies added automatically once the update drop.  I would be really surprised if it did.

AFAIK COD4 PS3 having dedicated servers is fanboy bullshit.

And there is at least one 360 game that uses dedicated servers so that is not a restriction of XBL.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Mupepe on June 30, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

It is totally gay if this isn't required for all games.


edit - in what way is COD4 better online on PS3?

Dedicated servers.  It may have been another game, but I'm not sure.  It actually may have been Bad Company where everyone was saying that the PS3 online was better because of those dedicated servers.  I don't have any personal experience with it since any multi-platform games are played on my 360 or PC.

And don't expect to have trophies added automatically once the update drop.  I would be really surprised if it did.
i love warhawk for dedicated servers

:bow Sony :bow2
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 03:49:23 PM
I wonder if you have to replay your old games to get trophies or if the trophies will automatically update for you.

It is totally gay if this isn't required for all games.


edit - in what way is COD4 better online on PS3?

Dedicated servers.  It may have been another game, but I'm not sure.  It actually may have been Bad Company where everyone was saying that the PS3 online was better because of those dedicated servers.  I don't have any personal experience with it since any multi-platform games are played on my 360 or PC.

And don't expect to have trophies added automatically once the update drop.  I would be really surprised if it did.

AFAIK COD4 PS3 having dedicated servers is fanboy bullshit.

And there is at least one 360 game that uses dedicated servers so that is not a restriction of XBL.


COD4 on PS3 does not have dedicated servers.  There were some rumors about that before the game came out, but they were completely bullshit.  Demonware handles the netcode for the game, and it runs less stable than the 360 version does.  I own both versions of the game, and I have logged many hours on both versions.  If I could only keep one version it would be the 360 version hands down.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 03:51:50 PM
ownage

I always figured that they made that claim because it ran so damn smooth - which it does on 360 also which is why it's so funny. I didn't realize the PS3 version ran worse though
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 30, 2008, 03:55:04 PM
And the 360 interface is just a clunky, cluttered piece of shit in general. Eliminate the one exclusive strength it has, and it really shines through as a junior Flash project. The 360 has Crackdown, that's its single "plus".

Wow, your tastes are almost as shitty as Abrader's. 

Poor Sfags.  Playing with interfaces while other gamers play games. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
COD4 on PS3 does not have dedicated servers.  There were some rumors about that before the game came out, but they were completely bullshit.  Demonware handles the netcode for the game, and it runs less stable than the 360 version does.  I own both versions of the game, and I have logged many hours on both versions.  If I could only keep one version it would be the 360 version hands down.


Well, then I have no clue how people starting spreading this to the point that major sites picked it up, but ok.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 04:01:15 PM
ownage

I always figured that they made that claim because it ran so damn smooth - which it does on 360 also which is why it's so funny. I didn't realize the PS3 version ran worse though

I should clarify my reasons for stating I would choose the 360 version are not purely based on net code or online performance.  There are times where the PS3 version runs just about identical to the 360 version, but it also has many times where it's a little bit more laggy than the 360 version.  I think it's really just a matter of when they reset their servers or perform maintenance on them.  Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's ok.  The 360 version is almost always very good.

There are also some details like a tiny missing lighting effect here and there on a few multiplayer maps, and a touch of framerate dipping that occurs whenever a car is on fire in view.  The single player also runs just a tad smoother on 360, and rumble isn't available on the PS3 version.  So that about sums it up.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 04:12:24 PM
COD4 on PS3 does not have dedicated servers.  There were some rumors about that before the game came out, but they were completely bullshit.  Demonware handles the netcode for the game, and it runs less stable than the 360 version does.  I own both versions of the game, and I have logged many hours on both versions.  If I could only keep one version it would be the 360 version hands down.

I've never played the 360 version, but the PS3 is nearly perfectly stable for me. I can count the drops and instances of lag on one hand, and that's from 3 (or 4) days of accumulated playtime.

I do seem to remember that COD4, or XBL, was down quite a bit in the beginning, for long stretches at a time. I doubt that was more than a teething issue, and the PS3 had its own "downloading game settings" snafu.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 30, 2008, 04:24:21 PM
COD4 on PS3 does not have dedicated servers.  There were some rumors about that before the game came out, but they were completely bullshit.  Demonware handles the netcode for the game, and it runs less stable than the 360 version does.  I own both versions of the game, and I have logged many hours on both versions.  If I could only keep one version it would be the 360 version hands down.

I've never played the 360 version, but the PS3 is nearly perfectly stable for me. I can count the drops and instances of lag on one hand, and that's from 3 (or 4) days of accumulated playtime.

I do seem to remember that COD4, or XBL, was down quite a bit in the beginning, for long stretches at a time. I doubt that was more than a teething issue, and the PS3 had its own "downloading game settings" snafu.

I thought you have a gaming PC?  Any mid-end GPU should be able to handle COD4 better than the consoles. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 04:28:45 PM
I thought you have a gaming PC?  Any mid-end GPU should be able to handle COD4 better than the consoles. 

Honestly, I bought it thinking I'd have an easier time accepting its shortcomings on a console than if I was playing it on PC. Which turned it to be a correct guess. Besides, after playing and then selling all the "big" console games of the Fall, I needed some console game that I'd actually keep.

Having the option between the console and PC version made all the bitter comparisons between PS3 and 360 seem sort of funny though.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on June 30, 2008, 04:33:24 PM
COD4 on PS3 does not have dedicated servers.  There were some rumors about that before the game came out, but they were completely bullshit.  Demonware handles the netcode for the game, and it runs less stable than the 360 version does.  I own both versions of the game, and I have logged many hours on both versions.  If I could only keep one version it would be the 360 version hands down.

I've never played the 360 version, but the PS3 is nearly perfectly stable for me. I can count the drops and instances of lag on one hand, and that's from 3 (or 4) days of accumulated playtime.

I do seem to remember that COD4, or XBL, was down quite a bit in the beginning, for long stretches at a time. I doubt that was more than a teething issue, and the PS3 had its own "downloading game settings" snafu.

It's gotten much better on the PS3 in recent months, but I still see netcode errors where you get dumped back out to the lobby more often on the PS3 version, and I see instances where I can't believe I got hit with bullets more on the PS3.  Meaning the latency is more noticeable on the PS3.  Also, there are some framerate fluctuations when you see a burning car on screen.  Check it out some time.  I've even checked it out offline, and it's still clearly there.  Walk around with a burning car in view and you'll see it happen.  Online it can be even worse.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 04:45:55 PM
As said, I've never encountered any of this. Well, the odd framerate drop in SP, but not much of it in MP. The only issue I've had was the downloading game settings one, and matchmaking being very slow.

Although I'm pretty unhappy with the game right now. I can understand a game having issue around launch, and IW has fixed a few things, but the whole Host Ended Match shit is just inexcusable.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 05:49:08 PM
And the 360 interface is just a clunky, cluttered piece of shit in general. Eliminate the one exclusive strength it has, and it really shines through as a junior Flash project. The 360 has Crackdown, that's its single "plus".

Wow, your tastes are almost as shitty as Abrader's. 

Poor Sfags.  Playing with interfaces while other gamers play games. 

I bet if you beg forgotten-gamer will unban you.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 05:49:44 PM
IGN just wrote impressions and says that once youv tried trophies, you will never go back to gamerscore.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 05:50:23 PM
IGN just wrote impressions and says that once youv tried trophies, you will never go back to gamerscore.



Why? They're exactly the same only less cumulative
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 06:04:14 PM
IGN just wrote impressions and says that once youv tried trophies, you will never go back to gamerscore.



Why? They're exactly the same only less cumulative

Quote from: IGN
Once this Trophy thing gets going, I'm done with Achievements.

With one morning meeting, Sony has made me ready to buy every cross-platform title on the PlayStation 3 instead of its Microsoft-bred competitor. Sure, points are nice, but now I'm Leveling up? You mean to tell me that Sony's turned my gaming into an RPG of its own? You mean that everyone's going to be starting from square one and have an equal chance at being king of Trophies?

Sign me up.

I dunno - thats what they say.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 06:05:51 PM
lol

So he personally prefers it because he missed the boat at 360 launch and because instead of hitting 10k, 20k, 30k he's hitting level 1, 2, 3.

OK
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 30, 2008, 06:09:35 PM
IGN guy thinks he's going to be "king of the trophies"

Sure dude, there will be boosters just as much as on X360
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 30, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
So will you pursue Trophies demi? Or are you Gamerscore exclusive?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 30, 2008, 06:17:48 PM
So will you pursue Trophies demi? Or are you Gamerscore exclusive?

I'll stick to OCDing on one system.

You can't even compare trophies, I cant call you out if you're an assnugget on a forum by looking up your profile online
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 06:22:10 PM
Actually the trophies system is cool because you will level up faster if you get the harder achievements, rather than just grinding the crappy ones.

Isn't that basically the same as just doing the big point achievements in XBL and ignoring the small ones?  I think the only real stand out thing is that you get a big level boost if you get all other trophies, so instead of getting that last 100 points or whatever, you also get a large bonus along with it.

I still think that unless having a higher level means something other than the amount of time you invested, I won't be interested.  I did achievement whore in Uncharted and Ratchet since it had unlocks with them.  Same with Dead Rising for the most part.

I'll stick to OCDing on one system.

You can't even compare trophies, I cant call you out if you're an assnugget on a forum by looking up your profile online

You can.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
Can you do it if you're not friends with the person?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: demi on June 30, 2008, 06:24:34 PM

I'll stick to OCDing on one system.

You can't even compare trophies, I cant call you out if you're an assnugget on a forum by looking up your profile online

You can.

Link me to your PSN profile online
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 06:24:49 PM
What level you are will tie in with HOME, etc...

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 06:26:33 PM
Can you do it if you're not friends with the person?

I don't know, but at least right now on the PS3 you can go and check recent played against peoples profiles.  I don't know if there will be a website like XBL has.

Link me to your PSN profile online

Oh, you mean from a computer? I don't know.

Home is going to have personalized websites and all that stuff, but not yet.

I am getting a bit tired of every answer to a missing feature being "wait for Home!"
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 06:31:47 PM


Firmware v2.40 FAQ
Eric Lempel in PlayStation.Blog
Today, 6:04 PM
Hi again! It’s great to see the positive reaction to the unveiling of system software update v2.40. We can’t wait for you to finally go hands-on with XMB access in-game and the Trophy system – and it’s less than 2 days away. Not surprisingly, a number of you have posed questions both here and on other forums. Here are answers to the most frequently asked questions.

Will voice-messaging/private chat be featured in 2.40 as well? If not, can we expect to see this feature added in the future?
We are evaluating the opportunity to offer voice chat, but for this update, we wanted to focus on text messaging as the key priority for communications that our users have asked for.

Can you use the web browser in game?

No, you must exit the game before browsing the internet.

Will In-Game XMB come up during playback of PS2 games, Blu-Ray discs, and DVDs?

The XMB is an exclusive feature for PS3 game titles. Accessing the XMB during gameplay was the top request from our users, which we focused on for this update. However, we continually engage PS3 owners for feedback and will evaluate the opportunity to offer XMB access during movie playback in the future.

Can we go to the display settings and change anything there in-game (resolution, input, etc)?

No, you must exit the game before changing these settings.

Will it be possible to change in-game the sound output?

Yes, sound output changes are supported.


Will we be able to access the PLAYSTATION Store while in-game?

No, but you can view your downloads in progress.

Will we be able to stream music (either via media server or USB drive) for custom soundtracks or is it relegated to music stored on the HDD?

Currently only music stored on the HDD is accessible in games that support this feature. We’d also like to reiterate that Firmware v2.40 merely enables custom soundtracks. It’s up to developers to include this feature in upcoming games (or to patch existing ones).

Does 2.4 enable cross game invites? Will it down the line?

No, cross-game invites are not available in this system software update. We are evaluating opportunities to expand on the new features delivered in 2.40.

Will trophies be mandatory for all games release here on out?

We are working with developers to ensure that Trophies are supported across the board in the future.

Where is each player’s trophy stat info held? I am going to upgrade my hard drive and I don’t know if the trophies will still be on my account if I earn some and then get a new hard drive.

Trophies will be attached to users’ PSN ID. Trophy data needs to be synchronized to the online account on PSN to be transferred to the new PS3 system.

Will the patch automatically allocate unlocked trophies according to your saved files or would you have to do it again?

No, Trophies aren’t retroactive.

Can we view PSN profiles/Trophies from a PC using a Web browser? Will there be an API for web developers to access the PSN data, so online profiles can be created?

We’re evaluating these opportunities to expand where Trophies can be experienced.

Can you only compare trophies with friends that are online?

As long as a friend has a PSN account, you can compare trophies with them regardless of their online status.

Is there a limit to how many trophies the devs can put set by Sony?

There’s not a limit on number of trophies, but there’s a value assigned to each trophy. Developers must balance out the trophies that are available to stay within an overall value based on whether the game is considered large-scope or small-scope. Essentially, a user that has unlocked every trophy in one game would have the same level as a user that unlocked every trophy in another title, all titles (depending on scope) have the same overall impact on a users’ level.

Will new games have a cool little icon on the back saying “trophy compatible?”

We’re currently working on how Trophy support will be messaged to the consumer on our software packaging.

When you get a trophy, does it make a noise?

Currently, no.

What is Eric’s favorite cheese?

Mozzarella

Once again, we will continue to evaluate opportunities to enhance the PLAYSTATION 3’s system software throughout the console’s life cycle. Consumer feedback has contributed greatly to the contents of Firmware v2.40, and continues to be appreciated. Don’t forget, this Firmware will be available for download on July 2nd.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Narag on June 30, 2008, 06:32:37 PM
heck yeah trophies!

The firmware thread on GAF is larger than the Diablo 3 announcement thread. :-X

Thread is missing like 16 pages as the first one was closed due to console warriors :gloomy
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 06:36:29 PM
Some more shit about 2.4:

-In Game XMB only for PS3 games.  No PS1, PS2, DVD, Blu-ray or anything like that.  Lame.  Later they may patch it in.
-Voice messages in game coming later
-Can't use the store or internet while in game (why even have the icons then?)
-Custom soundtracks are fucked up.  Music has to be on your hard drive, not flash or streaming.  Not all games support it.  Can be patched in to any existing game or future game easily.
-Cross-game invites coming later.
-Working on making trophies mandatory for all games released from this point on.
-Trophies aren’t retroactive.
-Evaluating idea of website to see trophies.

Custom Soundtrack fiasco is lame.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on June 30, 2008, 06:37:15 PM
if they leverage their relationship with Skype to use skype voice conferences as the PS3's voip chat XBL is toast.


Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on June 30, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
Skype on Ps3, yes please  :(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: hyp on June 30, 2008, 07:24:43 PM
The firmware thread on GAF is larger than the Diablo 3 announcement thread. :-X

GAF ARE NOT GAMERS
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
Some more shit about 2.4:

-In Game XMB only for PS3 games.  No PS1, PS2, DVD, Blu-ray or anything like that.  Lame.  Later they may patch it in.
-Voice messages in game coming later
-Can't use the store or internet while in game (why even have the icons then?)
-Custom soundtracks are fucked up.  Music has to be on your hard drive, not flash or streaming.  Not all games support it.  Can be patched in to any existing game or future game easily.
-Cross-game invites coming later.
-Working on making trophies mandatory for all games released from this point on.
-Trophies aren’t retroactive.
-Evaluating idea of website to see trophies.

Custom Soundtrack fiasco is lame.

Wait, no voice messages in game?

Who the fuck wants to type?!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on June 30, 2008, 07:36:06 PM
dash isn't available when playing xbox 1 games so ps1/2 are understandable but movies?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on June 30, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
even when PS3 gets that i wonder how much the HDD installs will bite it's ass? :/

Depends on when developers stop using it as a crutch.  Right now the multiplayer games featuring it are Haze, Lost Planet, MGO and GTA4 (If I missed any, be free to speak up).  Hopefully it can be limited, but yeah, it might be a problem.

Wait, no voice messages in game?

Who the fuck wants to type?!

...me.  I actually never really use voice messages for either PS3 or 360.  They should add it in quickly for those who want it.  They also need to include that SOCOM headset with PS3s sold from now on.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 30, 2008, 07:39:01 PM
GT5P and HSG5 I think?

Well wait, you can't do private games in GT5P anyway and you can't talk in HSG5 so they don't count!

:bow PSN :bow2

Who needs XBL now?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 30, 2008, 07:46:39 PM
I'm not sure what the deal is, but it does seem for whatever reason HDD installs are becoming more popular

More popular and yet, some games don't really pass on what should be the positive aspects of installing to the HDD.

Developers should be looking at streaming content instead of breaking them up into levels and relying on the HDD to load up assets as quick as possible. Simply because, with the 360s DVD drive, the increased load times on the PS3 don't feel leaps and bounds over the 360. Though, the 360 does have atrocious loading times in some games (Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising etc)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on July 01, 2008, 09:35:00 AM
"looking for opporunities" - the time was prior to launch so all this shit was mandatory. clusterfuck total. As someone said, it's like they were shown XBL, they wanted the same functions, but they didn't 'get' it.

no cross invites? jesus H corbett. Maybe in 2009, the new year of the playstation.


You suck at trolling.  Try harder.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: patrickula on July 01, 2008, 12:19:15 PM
No streaming of custom soundtracks is some sad shit, it's pretty much useless without streaming in my book.
I was also expecting that you could use the XMB during movies, it seems weird that that's left out.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2008, 01:55:50 PM
Burnout Paradise getting Trophies and is retroactive, so you don't need go through again to get them all.  You also can't cheat and download a save.  Potential for old games to also be retroactive is also good.

[youtube=425,350]858vIfKgz30[/youtube]
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on July 01, 2008, 04:25:13 PM
Burnout Paradise getting Trophies and is retroactive, so you don't need go through again to get them all.  You also can't cheat and download a save.  Potential for old games to also be retroactive is also good.



Somehow I knew they were full of shit when I read them saying "trophies will not be awarded retroactively" based on game saves.  The dumbasses didn't even know the facts about their own update.  This is just another example of how out of the loop certain divisions of the Playstation team are with each other.


So yesterday they post on the playstation blog "No trophies will be rewarded based on games you've already played".

Today they post an article from the Burnout Paradise team saying "trophies will be rewarded based on your current game save".



 :dur
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2008, 04:37:15 PM
4 pgs for a firmware thread?  How disgraceful for EB gamers. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: abrader on July 01, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
haha im pretty hyped for it now ;)

I already have R6V and Resistance trophies ;)

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Jansen on July 01, 2008, 06:36:55 PM
That 2.4 XMB kills the X360's Sling Blade.



http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/30/ps3-firmware-2-40-the-good-the-bad-and-the-belated/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/30/ps3-firmware-2-40-the-good-the-bad-and-the-belated/)

-You can, for example, message a friend that you are currently playing Resistance and would like them to join you, but there's no option to send any sort of game invite. That functionality will instead be up to developers to build into their games.

-Sony confirmed that it is not possible to initiate a private voice chat and keep your friend with you across games as on Xbox Live.

-The ability to stream your own music off the HDD during gameplay is a feature of 2.40, but only works in games that have been designed to utilize it.


Sounds pretty half-assed to me. At least the trophy system looks cool.

oh lawd you can only stream music off of the hdd and no cross game private chat? what about cross game invites?

i could go and watch the videos but i don't wanna
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 01, 2008, 06:50:23 PM
okaaay...so this is the skeletal structure of the in-game XMB we were all hoping for.  Maybe next year.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
what?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Brehvolution on July 01, 2008, 07:39:22 PM
How do x game invites even work? Are you hosting a game and invite someone or can you be anywhere to invite someone?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Mupepe on July 01, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
How do x game invites even work? Are you hosting a game and invite someone or can you be anywhere to invite someone?
you can be anywhere
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Jansen on July 01, 2008, 07:58:25 PM
How do x game invites even work? Are you hosting a game and invite someone or can you be anywhere to invite someone?

you don't need to be host. just be in a lobby (or match if it allows join in progress) and invite one of your friends online in any game to join you.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on July 01, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
...and the obvious truth is spoken by dcharlie

psn has zero chance of matching xbl at this point
it didn't have these features at launch, and most must be patched into old games
which is code for "never gonna happen"
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2008, 08:17:11 PM
:bow xfag emperor dcharlie :bow2
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on July 01, 2008, 08:19:20 PM
:bow xfag emperor dcharlie :bow2

:bow

lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Tigerriot on July 01, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
No cross game invites is Sony missing the whole fucking point.

Well, it already seems quite apparent that the Xbots have their war cry for the rest of this generation.  You're gonna have to hold on to that ONE reason for Xbox Live's $50 a year price tag from now on.  :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on July 01, 2008, 09:51:16 PM
that's just scratching the surface

a big one you forgot is mandatory demos of every xbla game, unlockable versions of the full game really

I wish psn had that

oh and you dont have to install the demos for fucks sake

nitpicking little things like that will show a vast x360 advantage
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on July 01, 2008, 09:54:45 PM
Maybe if Sony started charging for online play they might be able to afford more than one member of staff working on their firmware updates and OS design.

The PS3 UI shits all over the Dashboard crap though, so I guess that one dude just kicks so much ass that no else dares work with him.

I see Warhawk is going to have retroactive trophies. Sort of cool, although how many people have actually played that game?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 01, 2008, 09:59:37 PM
Maybe if Sony started charging for online play they might be able to afford more than one member of staff working on their firmware updates and OS design.

The PS3 UI shits all over the Dashboard crap though, so I guess that one dude just kicks so much ass that no else dares work with him.

I see Warhawk is going to have retroactive trophies. Sort of cool, although how many people have actually played that game?



That's one of those games I consider during dry spells.  before I remember I have TF2 on my PC.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on July 01, 2008, 10:00:48 PM
I thought it was pretty good, but the beta had so many issues that it was hard to form a real opinion of it. I loved dive bombing with cluster bombs though. Other than the freezing, it felt very solid, technically.

Maybe if Sony started charging for online play they might be able to afford more than one member of staff working on their firmware updates and OS design.

The PS3 UI shits all over the Dashboard crap though, so I guess that one dude just kicks so much ass that no else dares work with him.

I see Warhawk is going to have retroactive trophies. Sort of cool, although how many people have actually played that game?



That's one of those games I consider during dry spells.  before I remember I have TF2 on my PC.

:wtf I honestly can't think of two MP games with a shooter base that have less in common with one another.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2008, 10:01:48 PM
hey, i don't have to download this bullshit before i watch a blu ray, do i

i'm about to pop in Batman, and if i have to sit through 30 minutes of updating first imma be a mad motherfucker
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on July 01, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
OT, but how is the BR version of Batman (I assume we are talking about Batman Begins)?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2008, 10:06:11 PM
Begins isn't out yet I think.

If it is, then I haven't got it in the mail yet, which is bullshit.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2008, 10:11:58 PM
OT, but how is the BR version of Batman (I assume we are talking about Batman Begins)?

no we are talking about the one true batman

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1350/1468551191_c9b7cf423f_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: duckman2000 on July 01, 2008, 10:15:54 PM
Yeah, I'm coming round to this way of thinking, though both are shit from different perspectives. The settings menu on PS3 is an absolute cesspit, and just slinging new options underneath each item, without really thinking about placement, such as the Google link, is gonna end up a big mess. Well, it already is, but I do like the spped and minimalist look of the thing.

It definitely needs better sorting and sub-folder options especially for media, and that's one of those things that sound so basic that it's amazing that it's not available. I only recently realized that I could sort my video clips using folders, but that required changing the "album" setting on each video. :wtf The whole PS3 experience has been littered with these types of shortcomings, and the cynic in me feels that they are withholding features simply so that they can then appear progressive when said features are added.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 01, 2008, 11:28:39 PM
I wish I'd known about the shitfuck folders before I upgraded my PS3's hard drive for no reason.

Why can't they just put PSP features in the fucking PS3
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2008, 11:46:17 PM
The update is up if anyone cares to download it.

Why can't they just put PSP features in the fucking PS3

Like the Google search bar?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 01, 2008, 11:46:43 PM
nah, not really
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 01, 2008, 11:52:30 PM
What the fuck am I gonna do with that

Gimme skype and folder sorting and a clean XMB and online better than a competitor.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11794882&postcount=64

 :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 01, 2008, 11:57:55 PM
Quote
This is like Christmas, but better.

::)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:01:58 AM
I sat on my ass, pressed X, and waited.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: Vizzys on July 02, 2008, 12:02:30 AM
ZOMG LEMME TXT YOU
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 12:02:46 AM
sho nuff says there is a clock.

FUCKING FINALLY.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 vids coming tonight
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 12:03:54 AM
awesome now my ps3 will be fun to use!

oh wait no its still the same machine with no games
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:04:49 AM
clock
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
This is so loose.  I try playing a track during Resistance and it said playing music isn't supported.  That needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 02, 2008, 12:08:37 AM
Is the trophy stuff out for this too and are they all listed like xbox's achievements are for the locked ones?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 12:08:57 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11795180&postcount=150

 :rofl
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:09:13 AM
Is the trophy stuff out for this too and are they all listed like xbox's achievements are for the locked ones?

Trophies are in.

I selected Trophies on my Games list and it just says 'there are no trophies'
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 12:09:41 AM
Quote
GTA4

"Music content cannot be played during use of this game"

um

:rofl

No custom soundtracks for MGS4 or Warhawk either
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:11:31 AM
Quote
GTA4

"Music content cannot be played during use of this game"

um

:rofl

No custom soundtracks for MGS4 or Warhawk either

Or Tekken DR
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 12:12:47 AM
BIGGEST LOUL OF THE DAY

Quote
In-game XMB and messaging works on both MGS4 but NOT during Blu-ray :(

:rofl
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:13:02 AM
Probably nothing is patched yet.  It has to be done through individual games.
 
btw, if you have SSDHD, the patch with trophies (I think) is also out.

BIGGEST LOUL OF THE DAY

Quote
In-game XMB and messaging works on both MGS4 but NOT during Blu-ray :(

:rofl

This is nothing new.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 02, 2008, 12:17:13 AM
Pain uses trophies, which is awesome. Pain gets played a lot on the weekends with friends.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:17:51 AM
Probably nothing is patched yet.  It has to be done through individual games.
 
btw, if you have SSDHD, the patch with trophies (I think) is also out.

BIGGEST LOUL OF THE DAY

Quote
In-game XMB and messaging works on both MGS4 but NOT during Blu-ray :(

:rofl

This is nothing new.

Great so now I have to download 20 title updates, assuming they bother.

Trying SSHD now, does this mean it'll have custom soundtracks?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Brehvolution on July 02, 2008, 12:19:30 AM
OMG updating!!! :hyper
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 12:23:24 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11795471&postcount=228

SLOW DASH  :'(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 02, 2008, 12:24:41 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11795471&postcount=228

SLOW DASH  :'(


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2349/2076029728_b5094156aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:25:24 AM
lmfao if in game XMB is slow as shit as well as restricting 90% of functions.

I'd let you guys know if 'patches' didn't require me to download the entire 255MB fucking game every time.


: just got kicked off network
: please restart pain to reconnect

YES

Anyone wanna do some private matches in GT5P with me? :bow PSN :bow2

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 12:28:56 AM
home
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:30:20 AM
edit: OK, downloading the SSHD patch makes the game appear in the Trophies menu. Game image, text title, and then a bar with a percentage above it. If you select the game you can see each achievement name, and you can see what you have to do without clicking further. There's also an image to tell you what kind of achievement it is (bronze etc)


Wow this is so much deeper than Achievements:

Bronze - Collect 10 bombs
Silver - Collect 20 bombs :hyper

Much more care put into leveling up!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 12:31:18 AM
I don't think I'm going to bother updating this. 2.4.1 is bound to be out any day.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:31:44 AM
Great so now I have to download 20 title updates, assuming they bother.

Trying SSHD now, does this mean it'll have custom soundtracks?

Pretty much.  This update really seems like a beta test.  A beta test for a firmware...wow.  I understand now why they didn't put out Home early.

Well, I am still happy for the most part.  At least it is more than what I could do an hour ago. 

Quote
lmfao if in game XMB is slow as shit as well as restricting 90% of functions.

selective demo'ing yesterday perhaps giving the impression of complete speed/fluidity?

or just different performace per game?


I only tried Resistance, but the two problems are that it seems to chug (almost like the blade does with the 360, except not that bad) when just moving around it.  Other problem is that the actual icons take a while to load.  You see the name and all that, but the icon doesn't load yet.  Add in that half these icons serve no purpose and it is just a waste.

2.5 or whatever the next update is should go ignore letting you quick swap from the game you are playing to another one and create a new XMB for playing in game.  Remove the video and picture menus entirely.  Less options, less icons, less loading and clunkyness to it.  The sad thing is that they probably won't do this, because people will start saying how great it is to jump from one game to another and how it saves them 2 seconds.  Fuck that shit.  It is clutter and wasted space.

 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mupepe on July 02, 2008, 12:33:36 AM
Can someone really confirm if you have to end up exiting to XMB to do all those things and if it really slows it down that much?  If it does, I'll just skip
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:33:59 AM
Why the hell aren't trophies sorted by type?

Honestly I prefer seeing an actual gamerscore next to each action, this seems sort of esoteric.

Can someone really confirm if you have to end up exiting to XMB to do all those things and if it really slows it down that much?  If it does, I'll just skip

I doubt he's lying, and even the video said you had to exit out to do shit like look at pictures.

If my PS3 ever had a game disc in it I'd look for you but it's got a DVD.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Trent Dole on July 02, 2008, 12:39:56 AM
The fucking Wii has had a clock for months. ::)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:40:17 AM
Can someone really confirm if you have to end up exiting to XMB to do all those things and if it really slows it down that much?  If it does, I'll just skip

If you want to view picture, view a video, use the internet or things like that while in a game, you have to quit out of that game.  Things like getting and sending messages, checking trophies/friend list, ...eventually music, and all that stuff can be done in-game through the XMB.  Same with some settings.  It is worth updating.  It only took like 5 minutes.

As for it slowing down that much, it isn't bad, but I didn't try uncharted.  It takes about a second (instead of instant) for icons to load.  The actual movement of it all seems almost like 2/3rds the speed of the regular XMB.  Jumping from game to in-game XMB is instant, but exiting takes about a second.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 12:41:50 AM
I'm not surprised it has to exit out to view videos and photos, given the way the XMB treats these things as library items.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:41:54 AM
Wait, Warhawk trophy patch is up? Are they any good? PS3 is off.

Can someone really confirm if you have to end up exiting to XMB to do all those things and if it really slows it down that much?  If it does, I'll just skip

If you want to view picture, view a video, use the internet or things like that while in a game, you have to quit out of that game.  Things like getting and sending messages*, checking trophies/friend list, ...eventually music, and all that stuff can be done in-game through the XMB.  Same with some settings.  It is worth updating.  It only took like 5 minutes.

*text only
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:44:52 AM
Wait, Warhawk trophy patch is up? Are they any good? PS3 is off.

*text only

10 trophies are based on existing stuff you did, the rest are brand new things you can do.  I think there are like 56 of them.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 12:48:11 AM
I booted Warhawk and got no update, and it's not in my trophies ???

Also XMB runs noticeably slower during Warhawk than SSHD. Jittery motion to everything, nothing killer.


There's also a load if you want to check against another person's trophies, it's 'synchronizing.' I imagine that gets longer the more trophies you have.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 12:52:30 AM
re: Achievements - i see that there are something like 64 trophys in Warhawk and 17 in SSHD.... this is going to be worse than XBL at this rate. This is really where Sony could take the crown by STANDARDISING the trophy's so there is a weighting value, so it's not "Finish the game = gold" = "First down!" = gold.

And although SSHD is a cheaper game, it looks like we'll have different AMOUNTS of trophy's ? that actually makes the system worse than gamerscore :(


I presume that it's linked to the number of trophies you need to level up or how much each one is worth per level.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 02, 2008, 12:56:56 AM
neeed

custom
soundtracks

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 02, 2008, 01:05:03 AM
Why would anyone want custom soundtrack for a game like MGS4?  The game would lose much of its atmosphere without its original soundtrack. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 02, 2008, 01:09:14 AM
Why would anyone want custom soundtrack for a game like MGS4?  The game would lose much of its atmosphere without its original soundtrack. 

Burnout

HEY HEY

YOU YOU


/kills self
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 02, 2008, 01:12:07 AM
I wasn't talking about you.  Someone else previously mentioned MGS4.  I can't fathom why anyone would need a custom soundtrack for MGS4. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 01:12:13 AM
OK, I got a trophy

It makes a little tink sound and shows it in the corner, with type and name. 3% for SSHD. The trophy unlocked rises tot he top of the list and a big picture appears, along with a date and time under the unlock criteria.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 01:13:02 AM
I have 3 trophies and I'm 1/3 of the way to level 2. Come on, demi!

No thanks
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 01:14:03 AM
I wasn't talking about you.  Someone else previously mentioned MGS4.  I can't fathom why anyone would need a custom soundtrack for MGS4. 
so they can listen to SNAAAAAAAAAAKE EAAAAAATER and fap.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 02, 2008, 01:14:26 AM
I wasn't talking about you.  Someone else previously mentioned MGS4.  I can't fathom why anyone would need a custom soundtrack for MGS4. 

I can see the appeal of sneaking through the jungle to the sound of some speed metal.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 01:23:46 AM
Quote
* Runs as smooth as the regular XMB

i don't think so.

this is some really bear bones shit. the trophies and in game messaging are nice, but that's it.

no reason for an xbliver to go nuts about this update. maybe they'll get it right sooner or later and make people think twice about paying for XBL, but not now.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 01:26:08 AM
I wasn't talking about you.  Someone else previously mentioned MGS4.  I can't fathom why anyone would need a custom soundtrack for MGS4. 

MGS4 already has semi-custom sound tracks.  Plus, some people might want to listen to the MGS theme while playing.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 01:36:45 AM
:lol TROPHIES WILL MOVE PS3 GAMES!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 02, 2008, 01:40:34 AM
:lol TROPHIES WILL MOVE PS3 GAMES!

Yeah, 3rd party licensed games so they can level up faster. "Is Wall*E a good game? Time to find out!"
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 01:42:01 AM
:lol TROPHIES WILL MOVE PS3 GAMES!

I don't see why you are laughing.  It probably will.  People even bought King Kong to get easy achievements back with the 360 launched.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 01:45:17 AM
it's funny because achievements were seen to be not a selling point
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 01:47:18 AM
Haters devastated

ps. I told you, you, and you so

Welcome to the world of achievements - you might just find gaming fun again
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 01:48:47 AM
it's funny because achievements were seen to be not a selling point

By who? who would make such an obviously false accusation like that?  It is like saying free crack at the movie theaters won't bring in more people.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 02:06:04 AM
but achievements are for nerdy nerd nerds.

the ps3 doesn't need a system like that!

i foresee many stards backpedaling now that trophies are out.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 02:07:45 AM
it's funny because achievements were seen to be not a selling point

By who? who would make such an obviously false accusation like that?  It is like saying free crack at the movie theaters won't bring in more people.

I just bought Super Stardust HD. I probably wouldn't have bought it if there were no achievements attached to it.

Can I have some of that crack?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 02:10:37 AM
^ Another lie from FatalT, he buys anything

Buyer's remorse of the PS3 is what caused his purchase
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 02:16:54 AM
^ Another lie from FatalT, he buys anything

Buyer's remorse of the PS3 is what caused his purchase

I tried. :(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 02, 2008, 02:31:37 AM
Welp, PS3 remains useless until either DMC4 and MGS4 have trophies or vdigi vga cable arrives.  :'(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 02:37:49 AM
wonder if i can upload save games to dupe trophies? are the SSHD saves on gamefaqs?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 02, 2008, 02:38:40 AM
I thought they said no but go for it!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 02:42:31 AM
will try tonight if i can find my USB key
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
Welp, PS3 remains useless until either DMC4 and MGS4 have trophies or vdigi vga cable arrives.  :'(

vdigi made a vga cable for ps3?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 03:31:05 AM
modified?

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 03:42:07 AM
so for the titles that do use custom soundtracks does the music have to be stored on the hdd?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 02, 2008, 03:46:56 AM
Welp, PS3 remains useless until either DMC4 and MGS4 have trophies or vdigi vga cable arrives.  :'(

vdigi made a vga cable for ps3?

Yeah, someone in the gaf thread reported good results. The mayflash one I have succccccccks  :maf
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 02, 2008, 04:09:35 AM
2.40; you'll come for the trophies, you'll stay for the clock.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 04:18:33 AM
UUggghhhh my thumb is killing me from twirling the right analog stick around playing Super Stardust HD. Game is actually really fun, though! I got a few trophies but I'm still level 1.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 02, 2008, 04:24:43 AM
I unlocked me two trophies in SSHD tonight. Too bad the trophies aren't retroactive, or I'd have a lot more.

I can't wait for trophies in PAIN to be activated!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 04:26:54 AM
I unlocked me two trophies in SSHD tonight. Too bad the trophies aren't retroactive, or I'd have a lot more.

I can't wait for trophies in PAIN to be activated!

I'm not playing that again until the trophies are activated. That game is crazy stupid fun though!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 04:30:27 AM
liak achievements are ghey
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 04:30:45 AM
dudes
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 04:34:29 AM
trophies are the best thing ever, i can't wait to pick up uncharted and all those multiplat games i didn't buy on the ps3!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 04:35:28 AM
trophies are the best thing ever, i can't wait to pick up uncharted and all those multiplat games i didn't buy on the ps3!

Only a true achievement whore would do this.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 04:57:11 AM
Quote from: lupinko
I too, confirm that Valkyria does not have in-game xmb, with video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zChJ-oSap40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zChJ-oSap40)

It was with my cellphone.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11797794&postcount=645
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2008, 05:51:09 AM
i wonder if uncharted will use its in game trophies to link up? like im playing that shit again

doesn't seem sluggish for me inside SSHD. Maybe inside a retail game it might be worse
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Third on July 02, 2008, 06:54:10 AM
Just installed it. Some of my "friends" are already trophy whores. Jesus...

Add me bitches
PSN: HotiV
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mupepe on July 02, 2008, 10:39:35 AM
so is it worth actually updating?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 10:51:03 AM
so is it worth actually updating?

It is a really fast update, so yeah.

Still, this stuff has to be fixed soon.  Custom soundtracks in all games that can be played through a usb flash drive.  I'm not putting my music on my PS3 itself, that space needs to go to the massive SC4 install. 
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 11:19:44 AM
Well, it certainly didn't take long for the scunts to go achievement crazy.  :(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 11:53:24 AM
On what games? SSHD?

Is the Warhawk trophy update up? That'd give me a reasno to play alone.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 11:57:08 AM
On what games? SSHD?

Yeah, or at least according to the GAFot Sfags.

 :piss Sfags :piss2
:piss Achievements :piss2
:piss Console gamers :piss2
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Third on July 02, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
I kinda like achievements. I don't buy games because of them though. It's just a nice addition.

But I'll never replay my Ps3 games for the trophies...that's pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 12:11:06 PM
Yeah, I don't care about achievements, trophies, or whatever.  I downloaded the SSDHD update, but I am not going to go through it to get trophies.  PixelJunk Eden is when I will get my first trophy since that will be the next new game.  That is unless more games are retroactive.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 03:09:26 PM
clocks are bad! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11802114&postcount=1033)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 03:11:02 PM
there are no amount of rolleyes i can give to people who suddenly like achievements

come here, let me tattoo the world hypocrite on your forehead
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
clocks are bad! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11802114&postcount=1033)

:rofl

what
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mupepe on July 02, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
clocks are bad! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11802114&postcount=1033)
holy fuck that is sad
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 03:15:01 PM
clocks are bad! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11802114&postcount=1033)

 :violin
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: y2kev on July 02, 2008, 03:19:43 PM
I shared SSHD and I can't download the update because it crashed my system whenever I want to play SSHD. I'd have to download from the store again, but I don't know the password.

I'm not enough of a trophy whore and I don't want to play it now. Maybe later. SHITTY UPDATE BTW it is so half baked.

but the clock omg!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 03:24:14 PM
I shared SSHD and I can't download the update because it crashed my system whenever I want to play SSHD. I'd have to download from the store again, but I don't know the password.

I'm not enough of a trophy whore and I don't want to play it now. Maybe later. SHITTY UPDATE BTW it is so half baked.

but the clock omg!

I gameshared SSHD and got the update ???
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: y2kev on July 02, 2008, 03:28:03 PM
I shared SSHD and I can't download the update because it crashed my system whenever I want to play SSHD. I'd have to download from the store again, but I don't know the password.

I'm not enough of a trophy whore and I don't want to play it now. Maybe later. SHITTY UPDATE BTW it is so half baked.

but the clock omg!

I gameshared SSHD and got the update ???

it keeps crashing my PS3

so i wanted to redownload it but i can't
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 02, 2008, 03:42:27 PM
So what trophy would I get if I did another 450+ million run in SSHD?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 02, 2008, 03:59:44 PM
there are no amount of rolleyes i can give to people who suddenly like achievements

come here, let me tattoo the world hypocrite on your forehead

Someone over at GAF is now all like "Do you think they can add trophies into PSP games?"
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 02, 2008, 04:09:20 PM
Weee I'm level 2 now with 11 trophies! :D
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 04:45:54 PM
lol, expect firmware 2.41 or some minor update coming soon.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: hyp on July 02, 2008, 05:53:07 PM
woo hoo, achievements (aka trophies) are finally relevant in gaming now!  thanks sony!

year of ps3 continues
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 02, 2008, 06:18:26 PM
I shared SSHD and I can't download the update because it crashed my system whenever I want to play SSHD. I'd have to download from the store again, but I don't know the password.

I'm not enough of a trophy whore and I don't want to play it now. Maybe later. SHITTY UPDATE BTW it is so half baked.

but the clock omg!

I gameshared SSHD and got the update ???

it keeps crashing my PS3

so i wanted to redownload it but i can't


I had the same thing happen to me so i waited till the hdd light stopped flashing at the "ok" screen, then hit OK and it worked.

Boot the game, walk away for a minute, get a drink, then come back, that should be enough time.  I think it has trouble starting the update while the game is still loading in the background.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Akala on July 02, 2008, 06:52:08 PM
so they pulled the update?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 06:52:26 PM
i wonder if sony fans will love the fact the FW is borking/bricking systems? "Oh, i loved RRoD anyways. I'm glad we've got our equivalent!"


While I agree that people tend to, uh, adapt in mysterious yet curiously predictable paths, this brick deal sounds like some sensationalist bullshit at this point. We'll see how it develops though, I don't want to sound like a common RROD apologist.

That said, I called a 2.4.1 to hit sooner rather than later, to fix bugs in the main update. That seems to be the rule.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: duckman2000 on July 02, 2008, 07:08:43 PM
Quote
While I agree that people tend to, uh, adapt in mysterious yet curiously predictable paths, this brick deal sounds like some sensationalist bullshit at this point. We'll see how it develops though, I don't want to sound like a common RROD apologist.

That said, I called a 2.4.1 to hit sooner rather than later, to fix bugs in the main update. That seems to be the rule.

yeah, not many people seem to have been affected on GAF. But pulling the update seems to indicate something is up.

what is the deal with the clocks? mine was 13 minutes out.


If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on that it was pulled due to incomplete functionality and integration. Sony doesn't seem to be so awesome at testing shit before shit goes live, hence all the ..1s. I seriously didn't feel like doing the update knowing the next one would be only days away.

Not sure about the clock. Mine is server synchronized, so it was alright.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Costanza on July 02, 2008, 07:20:24 PM
sooo, would someone gameshare SSHD with me? :)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 07:24:38 PM
If you haven't bricked already then you have nothing to worry about right?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 08:52:07 PM
seems like freezing is the common problem after this update.

hope they get a fix out soon.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: GSG Flash on July 02, 2008, 09:13:13 PM
so they pulled the update?

Yup, it caught me by surprise, I was looking forward to coming home from work and updating my PS3 to 2.4 :(

Did the update really brick that many PS3s?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 09:15:07 PM
cell can't handle the clock.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Brehvolution on July 02, 2008, 09:15:37 PM
Quote
there are no amount of rolleyes i can give to people who suddenly like achievements

come here, let me tattoo the world hypocrite on your forehead

this. it's not so much hypocrites per se , it's just that sony fans have no ability to think for themselves and must be spoonfed opinion from the mothership.

see : we love installs, we love having to upgrade, lol waggle-->yay sixaxis waggle!,  we didn't want rumble anyway-->OMG RUMBLE!

i wonder if sony fans will love the fact the FW is borking/bricking systems? "Oh, i loved RRoD anyways. I'm glad we've got our equivalent!"


How does your wife stand such a toxic attitude? Keep this shit on Joystiq/Kotaku where it belongs plz.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:P
[close]
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 09:17:33 PM
doesn't seem like it.

performance issues are more common.

but then again this is probably all just msft FUD that got sony to pull the update.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 02, 2008, 09:18:35 PM
Quote
there are no amount of rolleyes i can give to people who suddenly like achievements

come here, let me tattoo the world hypocrite on your forehead

this. it's not so much hypocrites per se , it's just that sony fans have no ability to think for themselves and must be spoonfed opinion from the mothership.

see : we love installs, we love having to upgrade, lol waggle-->yay sixaxis waggle!,  we didn't want rumble anyway-->OMG RUMBLE!

i wonder if sony fans will love the fact the FW is borking/bricking systems? "Oh, i loved RRoD anyways. I'm glad we've got our equivalent!"


How does your wife stand such a toxic attitude? Keep this shit on Joystiq/Kotaku where it belongs plz.

Open Tee 2 >>>>>> Out of Bounds
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Brehvolution on July 02, 2008, 09:20:07 PM
Quote
there are no amount of rolleyes i can give to people who suddenly like achievements

come here, let me tattoo the world hypocrite on your forehead

this. it's not so much hypocrites per se , it's just that sony fans have no ability to think for themselves and must be spoonfed opinion from the mothership.

see : we love installs, we love having to upgrade, lol waggle-->yay sixaxis waggle!,  we didn't want rumble anyway-->OMG RUMBLE!

i wonder if sony fans will love the fact the FW is borking/bricking systems? "Oh, i loved RRoD anyways. I'm glad we've got our equivalent!"


How does your wife stand such a toxic attitude? Keep this shit on Joystiq/Kotaku where it belongs plz.

Open Tee 2 >>>>>> Out of Bounds

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-why-i-oughta-cat.jpg)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
doesn't seem like it.

performance issues are more common.

but then again this is probably all just msft FUD that got sony to pull the update.

:lol you arent for real dude
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Jansen on July 02, 2008, 09:23:06 PM
:lol you arent for real dude

no i'm not, but this guy is (http://ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=11807068&postcount=162).
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 02, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
oh jesus, what a shock
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 09:28:30 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Costanza on July 02, 2008, 09:45:14 PM
:lol you arent for real dude

no i'm not, but this guy is (http://ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=11807068&postcount=162).
hahahaha
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 02, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
I heard this firmware bricks Ps3s.

Still haven't updated. I had no reason to turn the system on anyway.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 10:27:08 PM
I heard this firmware bricks Ps3s.

MS fud
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2008, 10:36:01 PM
this. it's not so much hypocrites per se , it's just that sony fans have no ability to think for themselves and must be spoonfed opinion from the mothership.

see : we love installs, we love having to upgrade, lol waggle-->yay sixaxis waggle!,  we didn't want rumble anyway-->OMG RUMBLE!

i wonder if sony fans will love the fact the FW is borking/bricking systems? "Oh, i loved RRoD anyways. I'm glad we've got our equivalent!"

You make it seem like it is exclusive to sony fans.  You know Nintendo fans would be sucking on Miyamoto's balls for inventing 720p if WiiHD ever came out.  And I remember some people who hated the DMC series was all over it once it became multiplatform.  The moral of this story is that fanboys of all shapes and sizes suck.  Except PC fanmen, but a true PC fan is rare.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Tigerriot on July 03, 2008, 12:38:17 AM
Some of you must be dizzy from all the spinning in this thread today.  :lol  But I'm happy for you that Kotaku had a "breaking news" story to report today.


It seems quite obvious Sony took down this update just to be ultra careful not to brick thousands of machines like some of Microsoft's previous updates have done.  Instead there seems to be a very small number of people affected by 2.4, and Sony got scared when places like Kotaku started banging down their door immediately.

I bet we'll see 2.4 back up tomorrow.  Check out the GAF thread dedicated to this topic.  Last I checked there wasn't a single post about someone having a bricked PS3 from this update.  Yet we still see articles from 1up reporting "major problems".  :lol  Could they be any more obvious with their manufactured drama?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mupepe on July 03, 2008, 12:51:29 AM
i hate the melodramatic shit fits that gaming journalism gets into.  it's so fucking stupid and makes me embarassed to be a gamer sometimes
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2008, 01:05:53 AM
Who are you referring to.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: pilonv1 on July 03, 2008, 01:38:29 AM
oh jesus, what a shock

seriously, its the guy who makes the psn threads every week so everyone can laugh at where MVP and Flair are
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: abrader on July 03, 2008, 03:47:17 AM
:bow Year of PS3 Continues :bow2

This is so entertaining. Sony can't make one shit right.

What are you talking about? I upgraded and everything is fine.

P.S. - you got some dried shit on yer nose.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Brehvolution on July 03, 2008, 09:11:27 AM
:bow Year of PS3 Continues :bow2

This is so entertaining. Sony can't make one shit right.

The did right for me. Not one issue.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 03, 2008, 09:20:34 AM
oh jesus, what a shock

seriously, its the guy who makes the psn threads every week so everyone can laugh at where MVP and Flair are

OMG BEST BANNER YET, [guy] YOU ARE A GENIUS. I CAN'T FIND THEM.


That's the whole first page of every PSN update thread.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Tigerriot on July 03, 2008, 09:46:56 AM
oh jesus, what a shock

seriously, its the guy who makes the psn threads every week so everyone can laugh at where MVP and Flair are

OMG BEST BANNER YET, [guy] YOU ARE A GENIUS. I CAN'T FIND THEM.


That's the whole first page of every PSN update thread.

I agree, I usually find the first page of that thread VERY annoying.  No, it's not a fucking genius banner each week folks.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: y2kev on July 03, 2008, 12:27:23 PM
leper borys
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Maquiavel on July 03, 2008, 12:59:13 PM
My friend just got a 360 and it got RROD as soon as he turned it on. He's going to take it back to gamestop today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 03, 2008, 01:01:05 PM
My friend just got a 360 and it got RROD as soon as he turned it on. He's going to take it back to gamestop today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.


Apparently your friend isn't wise to return policies/the 3 year warranty on RRoD.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 03, 2008, 01:23:33 PM
My friend was just born and he got autism as soon as he came out of the womb. His parents are going to a back alley abortionist today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: hyp on July 03, 2008, 01:50:30 PM
My friend just got a 360 and it got RROD as soon as he turned it on. He's going to take it back to gamestop today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.

PR has fans!
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: CurseoftheGods on July 03, 2008, 02:02:24 PM
My friend just got a Wii and it got bricked as soon as he tried to play a real game on it. He's going to take it back to Gamestop today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 03, 2008, 02:11:54 PM
My friend just got a Wii and it got bricked as soon as he tried to play a real game on it. He's going to take it back to Gamestop today to see if they take it, hopefully they aren't wise to the issue.


This is definitely fake. The Wii doesn't have real games. :D
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: demi on July 03, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
But FatalT bought them anyway
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: FatalT on July 03, 2008, 02:17:07 PM
But FatalT bought them anyway

The only Wii games I have are gah, nevermind, I have 11 of them. :(
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
The only Wii games I have are gah, nevermind, I have 11 of them. :(

I am ashamed about how many Wii games I had.  That was a dark time in my life.  Living on campus, having friends come over...ugh, I would rather not thinking about it.  I haven't bought a Wii game in a while now and I only plan on getting two in the future, so I am repenting for my sins.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 05, 2008, 11:36:04 AM
Is there some list of all games that support trophies?


http://thesixthaxis.com/ps3_trophy_support_list_feature_1254_tsa.aspx

So it is just SSHD? :lol

I don't know if I trust the site though, don't they have the month wrong for SOCOM?
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Narag on July 05, 2008, 03:15:08 PM
Is there some list of all games that support trophies?


http://thesixthaxis.com/ps3_trophy_support_list_feature_1254_tsa.aspx

So it is just SSHD? :lol

I don't know if I trust the site though, don't they have the month wrong for SOCOM?

When I checked last week, that seriously was the entire list.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Rman on July 05, 2008, 03:20:40 PM
I missed the update myself since it was pulled after tech issues.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: abrader on July 05, 2008, 05:45:57 PM
I missed the update myself since it was pulled after tech issues.

Isnt it back up by now?

I have been using it without a hitch.

I have only played commando 3, SSHD, MGS4 and F1 CE however.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mupepe on July 05, 2008, 10:31:57 PM
nope.  not back up.  i've been waiting
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Crushed on July 07, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
OMG 2.4.1 EVERYONE GET HYPED AGAIN (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325913)
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: abrader on July 07, 2008, 12:39:27 PM
i dont understand what was wrong with 2.4 - mine was/is fine.

Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: abrader on July 07, 2008, 01:23:25 PM
aye - thanks!

I wonder what systems it bricked 20GB, 40 GB, etc...


Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2008, 01:43:26 PM
I've got 2.4 and haven't had a single problem.
Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: abrader on July 07, 2008, 01:47:00 PM
I've got 2.4 and haven't had a single problem.

What PS3 do you have?

60 GB Launch PS3 here.


Title: Re: Firmware 2.4 OUT NOW, omfg theres a CLOCK
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 07, 2008, 01:58:39 PM
I've got 2.4 and haven't had a single problem.

What PS3 do you have?

60 GB Launch PS3 here.




60 GB unit from February 2007.