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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Darunia on July 08, 2008, 07:59:24 PM

Title: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Darunia on July 08, 2008, 07:59:24 PM
Showdown Town (http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/15334/banjo-kazooie-3/videos/banjo_commentary_p1.html)
Banjo Land (http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/15334/banjo-kazooie-3/videos/banjo_commentary_p2.html)

Preview: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/886/886432p1.html

(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/886/886432/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts-20080708033215781.jpg)

(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/886/886432/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts-20080708033218203.jpg)
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 08, 2008, 08:02:04 PM
This game looks awesome.

and Grabbed by the Ghoulies is where it belongs.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on July 08, 2008, 08:02:57 PM
Looks sooooooooooooooo good.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: duckman2000 on July 08, 2008, 08:08:02 PM
What a nasty, poorly balanced mess. Rare  :lol
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: duckman2000 on July 08, 2008, 08:09:43 PM
Well, at least they have an excuse for the mess this time, what with leaving it up to the user and all.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 08, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
I toollllllllllllllld them it would be great. :bow
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 08, 2008, 08:19:13 PM
Looks nice, except for the fact that Banjo still looks a bit like a robot. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: JustinP on July 08, 2008, 08:35:52 PM
looks good
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: patrickula on July 08, 2008, 08:38:47 PM
Looks good, I'll play it.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: CHOW CHOW on July 08, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
Looks and sounds absolutely incredible.  AAA in every regard.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 08, 2008, 09:02:04 PM
The game has some pretty good graphics. It's weird though, there was a spot there with a lot of grass, then other spots are just plain, and when it's plain it looks kinda ugly.

But aside from that, pretty awesome graphics, and i was just playing crysis. The game looks fun too, in a weird way.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: CHOW CHOW on July 08, 2008, 09:03:27 PM
Umm, where did my Chow go? (avatar)
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: BamYouHaveAids on July 08, 2008, 09:10:03 PM
This is shaping up to be the best game of the generation. It is the Batman Begins of videogames: a timeless classic.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: CHOW CHOW on July 08, 2008, 09:12:25 PM
Looks and sounds absolutely incredible.  AAA in every regard.
except the developer.  and the gameplay.
Riiiiiiight... give your elitist schtick a rest.  The game looks phenomenal and really creative.  If you can't appreciate a game like this after watching those two videos, why are you even in this hobby?  Whatever.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: y2kev on July 08, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
This is shaping up to be the best game of the generation. It is the Batman Begins of videogames: a timeless classic.

This is a tough nut to crack.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: duckman2000 on July 08, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Looks and sounds absolutely incredible.  AAA in every regard.
except the developer.  and the gameplay.

Indeed. Although I wouldn't exclude visuals from the list of, uh, exclusions. It's still a fucking Rare mess.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: y2kev on July 08, 2008, 09:19:51 PM
I think the game looks pretty good (art style clashing notwithstanding), but with how the OA crew have been hyping up "rare's 360 engine," it's not so much more impressive than multiplatform games that you'd be like WOW XENOS unless you were waiting to OMG XENOS anyway.



Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: duckman2000 on July 08, 2008, 09:22:55 PM
Well, it's got that Rare quality; technical proficiency, but the ship is clearly sailing without a captain. Cluttered, unbalanced and really, plain stupid.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 08, 2008, 09:28:55 PM
i hope i can buy that wagglestick separately
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 08, 2008, 09:30:32 PM
Solar Jetman was cool!
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: y2kev on July 08, 2008, 09:31:19 PM
i hope i can buy that wagglestick separately

i'm thinking yes. it's 39.99 in the system right now (according to gaf sources), so IMO that means it'll be 39.99 w/o waggle wand, 59.99 with, and the wand will be available separately.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 08, 2008, 09:32:48 PM
cool, let's just hope they use it for something other than imitation wii faggotry

EDIT:  $20 for the stick makes sense if they want to get it into more than a couple thousand hands, and if you'll need more than one for certain games the price of the pair falls into "regular controller price" territory

plus i bet it gets packed in with the arcade sku starting this fall
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 08, 2008, 09:36:24 PM
damage control itt

:bow banjo :bow2
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 08, 2008, 09:38:12 PM
You want Microsoft to actively come up with something original?  Expect HD ports of Wii games and some shoddy Wii Sports ripoff using the avatars or another aesthetically displeasing cartoony character.

And unless Rare is pulling a fast one on us, I don't really see how this game would benefit from a waggle controller.  I mean, Wii see that Kazooie can pick up objects, and maybe if they expanded that to use during combat almost like a Boom Blox way, that would be cool but I still doubt it. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 08, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
i know, but i hope i get at least a couple of pretty shooters out of it

if it fits the hands well and can be used on normal 360 games, i might like it better than a regular controller

i have always been interested in the "split" styled controllers, but they've all been designed poorly so far
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 08, 2008, 09:50:42 PM
If games do support two control methods, then I would be interested.  I mean, the only game that makes me want both Sony and Microsoft to have a pointer/motion controller is Resident Evil 5.  RE4 on the Wii was phenomenal with how it controls compared to the standard controller.  It didn't have the problem that Metroid Prime or other shooters had also where turning became awkward or anything like that.  I think both RE4 and Link's Crossbow Training are the only two games on the Wii that makes me surprised by how good a pointer can be.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 08, 2008, 10:01:39 PM
Ohshi- more possible evidence for Xmote. During the first video, you see Kazooie playing on a 360, and she looks like she's getting frustrated with the controller. Suddenly Lobb says, "There's a bit more to that, but let's jump right in" and the video switches to gameplay.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 08, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
I'd love a pointer for RE5.  Gears of War was the only other game I thought would be great with a pointer - it would let me aim a lot quicker when I pop out of cover.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 08, 2008, 10:02:21 PM
i almost rebought a wii the other day, but common sense prevailed

i had re4 for wii - thought it was okay, the only problem for me was when enemies got close and i started flailing like a spastic to get them off me
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 08, 2008, 10:05:16 PM
remember, the official evilbore term for the xbox knockoff is  The Xaggle™
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: CHOW CHOW on July 08, 2008, 10:14:11 PM
remember, the official evilbore term for the xbox knockoff is  The Xaggle™
Not bad, I like it.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 08, 2008, 10:22:39 PM
remember, the official evilbore term for the xbox knockoff is  The Xaggle™

Screw that.  No more words need to hog the Z's spotlight.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 08, 2008, 10:28:15 PM
I forgot about Xaggle.  I like it.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: tiesto on July 08, 2008, 10:29:15 PM
Really weird seeing the N64 pop up in a stage of a 360 game...
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: laesperanzapaz on July 08, 2008, 10:33:19 PM


(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/886/886432/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts-20080708033218203.jpg)


LOL racist bastard.

Why is the white console tying up the black console?  Also, it looks like S&M play
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: tiesto on July 08, 2008, 11:05:47 PM
After watching that video though, I can already tell this game is gonna have a lot of collectathon stuff (well, it's Rare after all) and awkward-to-navigate hub worlds. Fuck, we need more straight-up platformers, Mario Galaxy had the right idea for like 80% of the game.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: CHOW CHOW on July 08, 2008, 11:58:11 PM
After watching that video though, I can already tell this game is gonna have a lot of collectathon stuff
The collecting actually means something, though.  They're parts.  You can upgrade vehicles, create totally new vehicles, and lots of other stuff, I'm sure.  Imo, "collectathons" are only bad if the collecting is meaningless... as if you're just doing it for some arbitrary reason like to reach a certain number or whatever (certain XBL achievements come to mind).  But if the collecting is an integral part of the gameplay as is the case here, I don't have a problem with it, know what I'm saying?
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: demi on July 09, 2008, 12:08:34 AM
I like that I am looking at what appears to be in fact, a fat bear
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 09, 2008, 12:15:50 AM
Banjo better have a Sports Training Montage to burn off that weight.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: demi on July 09, 2008, 12:23:38 AM
Cohen is a hater. Fat bears, Cohen, accept it
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 09, 2008, 12:29:48 AM
This is one instance where the GAF version of this thread is much better than the EB version.

Banjo Kazooie haters should go back to their cave with Osama bin Laden and other tree huggers.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 09, 2008, 12:31:33 AM
After watching that video though, I can already tell this game is gonna have a lot of collectathon stuff
The collecting actually means something, though.  They're parts.  You can upgrade vehicles, create totally new vehicles, and lots of other stuff, I'm sure.  Imo, "collectathons" are only bad if the collecting is meaningless... as if you're just doing it for some arbitrary reason like to reach a certain number or whatever (certain XBL achievements come to mind).  But if the collecting is an integral part of the gameplay as is the case here, I don't have a problem with it, know what I'm saying?
i saw fucking sparkly notes
You apparently use those as money.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: duckman2000 on July 09, 2008, 12:34:30 AM
This is one instance where the GAF version of this thread is much better than the EB version.

Banjo Kazooie haters should go back to their cave with Osama bin Laden and other tree huggers.

Tree huggers > wall huggers

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/altogetherandrews/wallguy-screen.jpg)

I'd say "never forget," but most of Rare's work in recent years has made it hard to ever gain much distance from the realized concept of developing games without art directors on staff.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 09, 2008, 02:40:28 AM
Rare had problems with Kameo's artistic direction but Banjo looks alright to me.  It's not like there's a lot of competition in the platforming genre.  SMG is last gen and even PS3 R&C had some stuff that was kinda ugly. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 09, 2008, 02:54:57 AM
I hope the game will be good, but I can't get excited for it.

Rare have been very hit-and-miss with their games since at least part way through the N64 generation, so who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 09, 2008, 02:57:31 AM
Ratchet isn't really a platformer.  I think the age of true mascot platformers is dead.  Even upcoming platformers like Prince of Persia and...I can't really think of anything else.

And for what its worth, Banjo looks pretty damn good for a Rare game.  PDZ was them trying to put effects to cover up their shitty artwork.  Kameo was vomit.  Viva Pinata did look pretty good, but Banjo looks a bit better.  It is odd that these guys aren't pumping out great graphics on the 360 when Conker looks phenomenal on the original Xbox.

And my only complaint with this Banjo game is that Rare is wasting the idea of customizable vehicles on it.  What sounds more fun here:  Upgrading a vehicle to climb a steep hill -or- Upgrading a vehicle to destroy a city. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 09, 2008, 03:03:02 AM
Kameo is still impressive technically.  The art is very inconsistent though. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 09, 2008, 03:06:02 AM
Kameo strikes me as fairly typical Rare - just pile on the colours 'til your eyes bleed.

Bits of it were nice though.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 09, 2008, 03:09:24 AM
Kameo was terrible for different reasons.  First, the art style was awful and probably some of the worst this gen if not all time.  Second, Rare saw fit to apply so many effects to it to make it seem 'next-gen' that it was ridiculous'.  Third, Rare needs to realize that colors are fantastic (see Mirror's Edge), but extreme amounts of it with a lot of saturation makes it look awful.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 09, 2008, 03:14:19 AM
Second, Rare saw fit to apply so many effects to it to make it seem 'next-gen' that it was ridiculous'. 

True dat.  The whole game was like one big tech demo. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: JustinP on July 09, 2008, 03:19:51 AM
i played kameo and wasn't impressed by anything.  people claim it is beautiful and stuff and i just don't see it at all. 

and what the fuck was up with the first part of the game?  you control all the different forms and can use all those skills, you go through the level and beat the boss, and then it throws you into basic fucking movement tutorials?!
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MCD on July 09, 2008, 05:18:28 AM
hd:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R9L34IJ1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U2UWAFVR
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MCD on July 09, 2008, 05:43:38 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11877363&postcount=130

i don't know if this was sarcastic or not but it made me laugh out loud :lol
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Tieno on July 09, 2008, 07:26:53 AM
Jigga please!

It looks interesting and definitely is its own thing (unlike certain other games) which is definitely a plus to me, but I don't like the harsh color palette. Makes it look uglier than it technically is. The second video does look more pleasing due to the lighting conditions.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Third on July 09, 2008, 09:29:35 AM
Looks ok.

But it's RARE. I don't expect it to be something special eventually.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: tiesto on July 09, 2008, 09:51:13 AM
Hey guys, when's the next emo JRPG come out?

Not soon enough for my liking :'(
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 09, 2008, 10:13:33 AM
o_0

Those videos look fuck awesome.


I still like Rare and think that most everything they've done has been pretty good.  IMO the only real stinker they've released in the last 8 years or so has been Kameo.  Sure PDZ's single player was dogshit too but the multiplayer more than made up for it....I think I ended up playing it for 4 months straight. 

Hell, I'd even go for some Grabbed by the Ghoulies on XBLA.  Loved that game.  Totally underappreciated too.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 09, 2008, 10:42:55 AM
This looks incredible.  Cannot wait for it to come out, it's my most anticipated 360 game.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 09, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
o_0

Those videos look fuck awesome.


I still like Rare and think that most everything they've done has been pretty good.  IMO the only real stinker they've released in the last 8 years or so has been Kameo.  Sure PDZ's single player was dogshit too but the multiplayer more than made up for it....I think I ended up playing it for 4 months straight. 

Hell, I'd even go for some Grabbed by the Ghoulies on XBLA.  Loved that game.  Totally underappreciated too.


Such an Xfag.

Hey, Ghoulies was a lot more fun than people gave it credit for.  It was like a more fleshed out and deeper version of Zombies Ate My Neighbors.  Good stuff.

Don't hate the Ghoulies.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MCD on July 09, 2008, 11:15:12 AM
(http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/886/886432/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts-20080708033215781.jpg)
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 09, 2008, 03:24:54 PM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U2UWAFVR
(http://i35.tinypic.com/wtd7p2.png)
:omg

:bow IT'S A SIGN :bow2
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MCD on July 10, 2008, 01:23:01 AM
:lol
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 10, 2008, 02:00:42 AM
Rare, never change
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 10, 2008, 02:13:01 AM
The image quality is nice but what's with the tearing?  I hope they fix that.  I'd take less tearing over a higher framerate any day. 
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 06:48:48 PM
Rare donkey-punches the doubters. (http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/15334/banjo-kazooie-3/videos/Banjo_Reviewie_070908.html)
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
wait a second graphics changed in ten years?  well i'll be.

WHOOSH

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's supposed to show how the same gameplay is still intact, despite people decrying it as a racer or "vehicle game" (whatever that is)
[close]
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: TVC15 on July 11, 2008, 07:08:22 PM
I saw a water level.  Shit game confirmed.  Preorder canceled.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 07:09:34 PM
I saw a water level.  Shit game confirmed.  Preorder canceled.
But now you can use a submarine instead of swimming!
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 11, 2008, 07:10:33 PM
Kiddie game
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 11, 2008, 07:25:22 PM
Best part of the comparison video is that Banjo on N64 has a better frame rate than Nuts and Bolts.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
Best part of the comparison video is that Banjo on N64 has a better frame rate than Nuts and Bolts.

Okay now Evilbore's hatred of videogames is going a bit too far.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 11, 2008, 07:30:39 PM
It is a joke.  I am very excited for Banjo 3.  I actually like that it is different from the previous games because I thought Banjo-Tooie sucked.  Banjo-Kazooie was great, but people who say it is better than Super Mario 64 are very wrong.  I hope they work on it a lot and have a nice frame rate in final.  Also, I really hope they show off the co-op at E3.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
It is a joke.

Oh thank God, for a second I thought you were seri-

Banjo-Kazooie was great, but people who say it is better than Super Mario 64 are very wrong.

...


...I'll assume... this... is a joke too.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 11, 2008, 07:34:38 PM
Lets just hope it isnt the next DK64
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 11, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
It's irrelevant since Rayman 2 was better than both Banjo Kazooie and Super Mario 64.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 07:36:09 PM
Lets just hope it isnt the next DK64

That's not funny, it's a scary thought.  :-X

It's irrelevant since Rayman 2 was better than both Banjo Kazooie and Super Mario 64.

And Rayman is irrelevant today even in his own franchise, so there you go.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: cool breeze on July 11, 2008, 07:36:29 PM
Hell no.  SM64 is way better than Banjo-Kazooie.  I had many arguments about this and that OoT is way better than FF7 years ago, and let me tell you that all those crazies are siding with me in this day and age.

It's irrelevant since Rayman 2 was better than both Banjo Kazooie and Super Mario 64.

You are on to something there.  Rayman 2 was brilliant.

Lets just hope it isnt the next DK64

DK64 is one of the worst games on the N64.  That is quite a feat.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: TVC15 on July 11, 2008, 07:39:19 PM
And Rayman is irrelevant today even in his own franchise, so there you go.

Raving Rabbids is better than just about any Nintendo-developed console game released this gen, minus SMG.
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Crushed on July 11, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
And Rayman is irrelevant today even in his own franchise, so there you go.

Raving Rabbids is better than just about any Nintendo-developed console game released this gen, minus SMG.

I said nothing about the quality, merely the title character and his gameplay's relevance!
Title: Re: New Banjo gameplay
Post by: Bildi on July 11, 2008, 07:56:25 PM
Oh god, we're talking about party games.

Admittedly Mario's got Rayman beat on this front as he's starred in eight piles of festering crap vs Rayman's two.