THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Smooth Groove on July 11, 2008, 12:42:03 AM
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Guy gave it a C+ for not having mouse controls. :rofl
WTF, who would want to use a mouse for DMC anyway?
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3168624&p=1
Granted, the game plays great. It's the same intense, stylish demon-killing we've come to expect from the series -- repetitiveness and all. The visuals sparkle, and even at the highest settings, my modest videocard had no problems handling the load -- no stuttering or jaggies. And the game didn't crash once during my playthrough. The boys at Capcom know how to make a good-looking, technically sound game -- but they have problems tailoring it to the PC.
Mouse support is another issue: According to our review of last year's Resident Evil 4 PC port, the game doesn't support a mouse -- and Capcom repeats this omission in DMC4. Your best bet is the Xbox 360 gamepad, and it works quite well, too. You can also use the keyboard -- movement uses the standard WASD keys, and combat keys are set to your right hand -- but I found this to be an inconvenient (and uncomfortable!) way to play the game. I would've appreciated even token mouse control instead of the flurry of keystrokes that accompany every round of combat.
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Action game plays for shit on PC, buh buh buh
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Worst PC review from 1up since the NWN2 fiasco almost two years ago. I'm planning on picking this up this weekend, I can use my dualshock 2 with my radio shack adapter and the game looks fantastic on good hardware.
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Does 1up even have a editor for PC? A review like this is really embarrassing.
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PC Gaming: C+
Sounds accurate to me, what's the beef
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oh demi you cur
Smooth-I think most of 1up's PC editorial staff is either on vacation or out of town based off the latest podcast. The guy who reviewed it is apparently copy chief and an "infrequent reviewer" for 1up.
They should have gotten a decent freelancer to review it, they work cheap and do a better job.
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oh demi you cur
Smooth-I think most of 1up's PC editorial staff is either on vacation or out of town based off the latest podcast. The guy who reviewed it is apparently copy chief and an "infrequent reviewer" for 1up.
They should have gotten a decent freelancer to review it, they work cheap and do a better job.
I think I found the true problem here...
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This is the kind of game I think id rather play on a console.
SG's performance screenshots intrigue me tho...
I dont wanna PC game with a controller and no mouse support does kinda suck IMO.
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This is the kind of game I think id rather play on a console.
SG's performance screenshots intrigue me tho...
I dont wanna PC game with a controller and no mouse support does kinda suck IMO.
The PC is superior simply because it includes the turbo mode. That really improves the feel of the game and is the speed I think they should have targetted initially.
As for performance, well, it doesn't really make a huge difference. The PC version holds 60 fps no matter what and produces a smoother image quality, but the console versions (at least the PS3 version) were able to hold 60 fps 98% of the time during gameplay and already featured pretty solid image quality. Going above 60 fps makes absolutely no sense and adds nothing, so I wouldn't even consider that a feature.
If I had not already puchased the game on PS3, I would totally pick it up on the PC. It is the superior version, no doubt.
There is absolutely NO NEED for mouse support here. I mean, what exactly would you DO with a mouse? Seriously, the game isn't designed in such a way that a mouse would be useful. They would have to completely change the gameplay.
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This is the kind of game I think id rather play on a console.
SG's performance screenshots intrigue me tho...
I dont wanna PC game with a controller and no mouse support does kinda suck IMO.
that's the most arbitrary shit I've heard...hook up a 360 controller, what's the difference? you'll be playing the superior version, that's the difference.
I swear, the review could say "nero says 'insane' instead of 'crazy' this time around" and people would be like "kinda sucks he doesn't say 'crazy' anymore...guess I'll be torrenting it."
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DMC4 PC pisses all over the console versions. Wow. :lol
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This is the kind of game I think id rather play on a console.
SG's performance screenshots intrigue me tho...
I dont wanna PC game with a controller and no mouse support does kinda suck IMO.
Use a 360 controller. Or a DS2 one with the USB dongle. The game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar better than the console version.
Even if it had mouse support, I couldn't imagine playing a game like this with keyboard and mouse.
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DMC4 PC pisses all over the console versions. Wow. :lol
The game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar better than the console version.
In this one case, I wouldn't really say that. Most PC ports do indeed stomp the console versions, but the console versions already offered solid image quality at 60 fps. The PC version has a few new features and even higher resolution support, which is nice, but it doesn't exactly piss all over the original releases. Capcom deserves credit for their multiplatform efforts with DMC4 as the game is excellent across all platforms. The game looks almost exactly the same across all three platforms with the PC version offering very minor improvements along with high resolution support.
If all three had been available from day 1, I would probably have gone with the PC version, but that doesn't mean the other two versions aren't extremely close.
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There's a huge difference between 1920x1200 w/16AA and 720P w/2x or the fake AA of the PS3 version. Also, the PC version loads way faster than the console versions and plays with either a Dual Shock 2 or 360 controller.
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There's a huge difference between 1920x1200 w/16AA and 720P w/2x or the fake AA of the PS3 version. Also, the PC version loads way faster than the console versions and plays with either a Dual Shock 2 or 360 controller.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't a difference. I suppose it comes down to what one considers a "major difference". When I think major difference, I'm thinking about the rifts we saw last generation between PC and consoles. Half-Life 2 on the PC version versus Half-Life 2 on XBOX, for instance. Or, if limited to consoles, Resident Evil 4 GC versus PS2. The differences there are massive.
Of the points you've made, only image quality really means anything and whether it matters depends on the display you are using. If you are using an LCD with 1920x1200 native resolution then, yes, the PC version will look MUCH cleaner as 1280x720 tends to look pretty nasty on such LCDs. As you are using such a display, it probably does make a larger difference. I either use a Pioneer 5080 plasma (1366x768 display) or an NEC trinitron CRT monitor (which produces awesome results at all resolutions), so using such a resolution isn't necessary. Though, I was surprised that the game had no trouble running at 60 fps in 1080p mode (my TV accepts 1080p and downscales it, so I could still try it out).
I didn't really detect a massive difference in loading, though. The PS3 version seems to load just as fast as the PC version (which is to say, there is no loading between most rooms and when the "Now Loading" text DOES appear, it disappears within 3-4 seconds. There is a much larger difference between the PS3 and 360 versions (in terms of loading time) than the PC and PS3 versions.
As for controller, well, the PS3 controller is pretty much the same as a Dual Shock 2 and that is pretty much the only way to play. The 360 pad sucks for this game.
Again, I'm not suggesting that the PC version ISN'T the superior version, I just find it odd that people are pushing it as if it is a massive leap. There are TONS of other examples of console ports that ARE VASTLY superior to the original versions, but this isn't one of those cases. The PC version basically buys you improved image quality and a couple features. Compare this to, say, Mass Effect where the PC version runs at a rock solid 60 fps, loads extremely fast, and no longer suffers from texture pop-ups. THAT is a big improvement over the original.
You ARE running this with v-sync, though, right? I recall someone bragging about their framerates going above 60 fps with v-sync disabled which produces inferior image quality compared to a locked 60 fps. They were only interested in the higher number despite the fact that it looked worse due to tearing.
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Are you really trying to say (lie) that 1920x1080 = 1280x720? Are you out of your mind?
Of course not. The difference on paper seems much larger than the reality you see with your own eyes.
In every thread here and (probably) on GAF you tirelessly underscore and underrate this and every single one other PC port of a PS3 title.
Other examples? For the most part, I've felt that PC ports ARE massive improvements. DMC4 is the one game I've defended several times. It's simply been brought up quite a bit.