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Title: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:36:09 AM: There's only one right answer
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:38:06 AM: All of them. Combined. :lol
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM: It's not very hard to be better than 2001 or blade Runner all you need is a story.

Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:46:05 AM: How about Chinatown, is it better than that?

A Clockwork Orange? Raiders?
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 12:49:48 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.

Lawrence of Arabia is also a Must See on Big Screen movie. It loses a lot on a television set. I love it to death though.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:51:33 AM: I've never seen it. There's a nice theater downtown that shows many classic films; I'm waiting for them to stop showing stuff like 2001 and instead show something like LoA
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Post by: Flannel Boy on July 21, 2008, 12:56:52 AM: Quote from: TVC 15 on July 21, 2008, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.

Lawrence of Arabia is also a Must See on Big Screen movie. It loses a lot on a television set. I love it to death though.

This is true. I've only seen the movie once and it was on an ancient 27" TV from a VHS tape. :-\

Has everyone on this forum seen tDK? I'll be damned if I watch a movie in a crowded movie theater filled with annoying teenagers.
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 12:59:37 AM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on July 21, 2008, 12:56:52 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on July 21, 2008, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.

Lawrence of Arabia is also a Must See on Big Screen movie. It loses a lot on a television set. I love it to death though.
Has everyone on this forum seen tDK? I'll be damned if I watch a movie in a crowded movie theater filled with annoying teenagers.

I am refraining from seeing it until I can see it in a theater that isn't packed with revolting teenagers, hence why I haven't commented. We can do another thread in a week or two.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:00:52 AM: i imagine it is vastly superior to forrest gump, and roughly on par with underworld 2
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:01:12 AM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on July 21, 2008, 12:59:46 AM
all of them. it's alphaville X 400 blows X everything fritz lang did. it's the perfect film. batman.

But is it better than American Beauty?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 21, 2008, 01:02:58 AM: it's better than the interminable lotr trilogy
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Post by: Flannel Boy on July 21, 2008, 01:03:04 AM: Quote from: TVC 15 on July 21, 2008, 12:59:37 AM
Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on July 21, 2008, 12:56:52 AM
Quote from: TVC 15 on July 21, 2008, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.

Lawrence of Arabia is also a Must See on Big Screen movie. It loses a lot on a television set. I love it to death though.
Has everyone on this forum seen tDK? I'll be damned if I watch a movie in a crowded movie theater filled with annoying teenagers.

I am refraining from seeing it until I can see it in a theater that isn't packed with revolting teenagers, hence why I haven't commented. We can do another thread in a week or two.

I'd try to catch a matinee tomorrow, but it's the summer. So it will be packed by the only entity that might be worse than the teen--the pre-teen.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:03:50 AM: How about this: If TDK was a Kurosawa film from back in the day, how would George Lucas have ripped it off in the Star Wars trilogy? And which character would Mifune have played?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:08:05 AM: I feel good knowing my threads are the catalysts for such witty banter.
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:08:14 AM: What would be the ideal superhero franchise for Tarantino to work on? That's a good one. I guess Luke Cage, since he can feasibly work a number of n-bombs into that.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on July 21, 2008, 01:12:04 AM: blade runner is pretty much unassailable
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:15:29 AM: So is 2001. I ejaculate every time I see the room sequence at the end. It's intense shit.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:15:54 AM: so is underworld 2
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 21, 2008, 01:17:22 AM: I love underworld movies :(

Seriously tho, I cant think of anything bad in Blade Runner
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Vizzys on July 21, 2008, 01:17:51 AM: slightly off topic but I found this bitchin blade runner poster a few days ago

http://www.kakofonia.com/gallery/?sectionID=3&sectionItemID=231&imageIndex=0&page=0&src=section

too awesome not to post, be sure to click the thumbs

limited edition being sold here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keepsmesane/2542672188/in/set-72157601618281265/
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:18:32 AM: if i were gonna nitpick, i'd say harrison ford wasn't a GREAT decker, but that's about it

mmmmm, vangelis score
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:18:41 AM: Is Deckard a Cylon? Boy, Edward James Olmos sure has a pattern of hating cyborgs that look like humans, doesn't he?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:18:56 AM: meh
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:20:14 AM: cyborgs have nice smooth synthetic skin
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:20:47 AM: you forgot "unforgiven" in your list of failed trolling, peedee

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Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:21:28 AM: Alright, if TDK were Battlestar Galactica, who would the Cylons be?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:23:04 AM: considering i loved Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep i'll give blade runner another try. on the other hand unforgiven will remain...unforgiven
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:23:25 AM: the cylons would be the army of relentless fans, of course, and much like in battlestar, EVERYONE IS A CYLON
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:24:03 AM: Quote from: Amber Lambchops on July 21, 2008, 01:23:04 AM
considering i loved Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep i'll give blade runner another try. on the other hand unforgiven will remain...unforgiven

you haven't even read it! you are not welcome in the fuck dumpster. get out
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 21, 2008, 01:24:49 AM: Wouldn't put it above 2001 or Blade Runner, but it's my favorite movie so far of 2007 and I've already seen Wall-E, so there you go.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:25:08 AM: If TDK were Dynasty, who would the equivalent to Joan Collins be?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:25:11 AM: i own the book duder. i guess you missed the thread
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=19517.0
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:25:51 AM: Quote from: Amber Lambchops on July 21, 2008, 01:25:11 AM
i own the book duder. i guess you missed the thread
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=19517.0

why would i ever read a book thread started by you

that's like reading a political theory thread started by foc, or a thread on software development started by kittonwy
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 21, 2008, 01:26:44 AM: I thought that was a gag thread, I didnt know PD could read
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:27:32 AM: Quote from: The Iconistrator on July 21, 2008, 01:26:44 AM
I thought that was a gag thread, I didnt know PD could read

:lol this
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 01:28:22 AM: your trolling has no power here!
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 01:29:18 AM: If TDK could replace one single Norse Saga, which one would it be?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 21, 2008, 01:29:55 AM: all of them AND wagner's nibelungen to boot, of course
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2008, 01:58:46 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on July 21, 2008, 01:29:55 AM
all of them AND wagner's nibelungen to boot, of course

Nibelungen was just a 2nd rate Lord of the Rings ripoff anyway, the Eragon of it's day. Wagner's just coasting off the royalties from Ride of the Valkyries, total one-hit wonder.
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Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 02:09:28 AM: Quote from: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2008, 01:58:46 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on July 21, 2008, 01:29:55 AM
all of them AND wagner's nibelungen to boot, of course

Nibelungen was just a 2nd rate Lord of the Rings ripoff anyway, the Eragon of it's day. Wagner's just coasting off the royalties from Ride of the Valkyries, total one-hit wonder.

Nibelungen is really the only opera music I appreciate. I'd love to see it, but watching 4 operas is such a commitment. Die Walkure is such a musical build-up--it really is the best part. I've watched clips of performances, and it's usually pretty fuckin' awesome. It's dramatic, it's emo, the bitches have to have pipes, and it's got some great imagery that seems to translate into some awesome sets.

It also has a fucking awesome strings bit, too.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 02:17:35 AM: TDK is NOT better than Wall-E.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TVC15 on July 21, 2008, 02:18:07 AM: You're only saying that because there were fewer toddlers to lust after.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 02:20:44 AM: There are no toddlers in Wall-E. Also, when I saw Wall-E, there were no kids at all. Only adults.

When I saw TDK, it was PACKED with kids. At this was at fucking 9:50!
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 02:21:07 AM: and*
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 02:23:28 AM: I saw two kids in the theater for TDK. Hell, before the movie started a guy who worked there got a microphone and asked people where they went to school (by raising hands). Just about everyone in the audience raised their hand for one college or another. I didn't see many middle aged people in there
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 21, 2008, 02:29:46 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 02:20:44 AM
There are no toddlers in Wall-E. Also, when I saw Wall-E, there were no kids at all. Only adults.

When I saw TDK, it was PACKED with kids. At this was at fucking 9:50!
I think most recent Pixar films are geared towards adults anyway. Anyway my cousins found Wall-E cute but the actual movie long and boring.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 02:37:36 AM: Quote from: Fresh Prince on July 21, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 02:20:44 AM
There are no toddlers in Wall-E. Also, when I saw Wall-E, there were no kids at all. Only adults.

When I saw TDK, it was PACKED with kids. At this was at fucking 9:50!
I think most recent Pixar films are geared towards adults anyway. Anyway my cousins found Wall-E cute but the actual movie long and boring.

your cousin is a dumb fool.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 21, 2008, 02:46:23 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 02:37:36 AM
your cousin is a dumb fool.
I'll be sure to tell them that.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 02:48:58 AM: how old is he?
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Post by: Fresh Prince on July 21, 2008, 08:11:30 AM: 7 and 9
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:13:18 AM: Quote from: TVC 15 on July 21, 2008, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
Lawrence of Arabia is a masterpiece but its extremely long and drags alot. I have never seen Godfather II.

Lawrence of Arabia is also a Must See on Big Screen movie. It loses a lot on a television set. I love it to death though.

I saw it projected in 35mm.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:14:47 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 02:17:35 AM
TDK is NOT better than Wall-E.
:lol
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:15:42 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 02:17:35 AM
TDK is NOT better than Wall-E.
:lol

what is so funny?

one movie makes you feel happy and gooey inside. the other movie feels like it takes itself almost too seriously.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 21, 2008, 11:17:09 AM: "In my opinion, you need to lighten up"

Oh-ho-ho
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:17:12 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
what is so funny?

one movie makes you feel happy and gooey inside.

Is that how you judge how good movie is? Perhaps I can reccomend the best movie ever for you!!
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:22:10 AM: Quote from: BrandNew on July 21, 2008, 11:17:09 AM
"In my opinion, you need to lighten up"

Oh-ho-ho

why so serious?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:23:35 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
what is so funny?

one movie makes you feel happy and gooey inside.

Is that how you judge how good movie is? Perhaps I can reccomend the best movie ever for you!!
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Wall-E was the best movies I've seen in years. TDK was just a really well made movie. I've almost entirely forgot about TDK since I saw it last night. Wall-E however, lingered on my mind for days and I saw it twice in the same weekend. Wall-E gives me goosebumps. TDK made me fall asleep at times.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:27:04 AM: Oh god, Wall-E was an excellent film but it was very simple (which can be a good thing) The Dark Knight tackles some very complex themes that you probably didnt understand.
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:34:48 AM: What are you talking about? You don't even understand 2001. Shit, I recall make a topic years ago giving you a lesson in literature basics, starting with ethos and pathos. And you want to talk to me about complex themes? Wall-E was just as "complex" a movie as TDK, and besides, who gives a shit about complexity?

You must be shitting me.

Are you fucking joking?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:37:00 AM: somebody bring up the topics where foc didn't "get" kubrick movies.

And he wants to talk about me not understanding TDK's themes.

Right.

lmao
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:37:15 AM: 2001 doesn't have a story that's what Dark Knight is better. Also Dark Knight doesnt have a 10 minute long acid trip sequence followed by random bullshit that is never explained in the movie.
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:38:10 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:37:15 AM
2001 doesn't have a story that's what Dark Knight is better. Also Dark Knight doesnt have a 10 minute long acid trip sequence followed by random bullshit that is never explained in the movie.

:lol

See, and he wants to talk about how "deep" tdk is yet he is unable to grasp 2001.

Oh my fucking God :lol
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:41:09 AM: Tell me how deep 2001 is. Go ahead and stroke your E-cinema penis.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:42:51 AM: Why should I? We talked about this 2 years ago and you were unable to grasp 2001 because you're stupid.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:43:27 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
Why should I? We talked about this 2 years ago and you were unable to grasp 2001 because you're stupid.

Guess you cant then.
Apology accepted.
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Post by: Eric P on July 21, 2008, 11:45:38 AM: there's actually a very good book on the making of 2001 which goes into a lot of detail about the film

i would suggest that if you are seriously interested in trying to get what Kubrick was doing independent of if you think he succeeded as a filmmaker, that this book would really be helpful in that regard. as a fan it gave me new ways of approaching the film, as a detractor i think it may provide a degree of insight which may click with you in a way your reading of the film does not.

http://www.amazon.com/Making-2001-Odyssey-Modern-Library/dp/0375755284
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Post by: Eric P on July 21, 2008, 11:46:01 AM: wow next year is the 40th anniversary of the film
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:49:55 AM: I'll check it out whenever i get some money. Maybe half price books has it.

Anyway, the reason I don't like 2001 is because I watched it twice and both times I didnt no what the fuck was going on. Black monoliths in space, acid trips random computer glitches. It didn't tie together until someone who had read the book told me what was going on. That's a sign of a shitty film, when the story doesnt make any sense to people who watch the movie. Plus its fucking long and boring as hell.
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:50:18 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:43:27 AM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
Why should I? We talked about this 2 years ago and you were unable to grasp 2001 because you're stupid.

Guess you cant then.
Apology accepted.

The movie is about human evolution. Let's see you run with that.
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 11:51:12 AM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:49:55 AM
I'll check it out whenever i get some money. Maybe half price books has it.

Anyway, the reason I don't like 2001 is because I watched it twice and both times I didnt no what the fuck was going on. Black monoliths in space, acid trips random computer glitches. It didn't tie together until someone who had read the book told me what was going on. That's a sign of a shitty film, when the story doesnt make any sense to people who watch the movie. Plus its fucking long and boring as hell.

Or maybe you are unable to recognize visual clues, and apply rational thought while you are experiencing story telling.

Either way, you are an idiot.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:51:48 AM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:50:18 AM
The movie is about human evolution. Let's see you run with that.

Yeah, whenever I think of 10 minute acid trips and star babies I always think "Human evolution"
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 21, 2008, 12:17:01 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 11:51:48 AM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 11:50:18 AM
The movie is about human evolution. Let's see you run with that.

Yeah, whenever I think of 10 minute acid trips and star babies I always think "Human evolution"

If only there were some clues in the movie, like an extended sequence where apes learn to use tools when confronted by the monolith. Oh wait that scene was in the movie.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:18:10 PM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 21, 2008, 12:17:01 PM

If only there were some clues in the movie, like an extended sequence where apes learn to use tools when confronted by the monolith. Oh wait that scene was in the movie.

Oh ok now that ridiculous long light show at the end makes sense!!!!
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:18:14 PM: i wonder what that monolith is for, patel. it appears ONLY when humans evolve, or are nearing a point of evolution. shit, what the fuck is that thing?
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:18:49 PM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 12:18:14 PM
i wonder what that monolith is for, patel. it appears ONLY when humans evolve, or are nearing a point of evolution. shit, what the fuck is that thing?

What was the one on the moon for?
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:19:54 PM: To direct humans to the planet where they can evolve.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:21:06 PM: My favorite part of 2001 was the incredibly long and boring docking sequence in the beginning. I dont think an epic tale of human evolution could be told without it!
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:22:03 PM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
To direct humans to the planet where they can evolve.

So are you saying that the monolith on the moon didnt make humans evolve? Like the others in the story?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 21, 2008, 12:22:39 PM: FoC: "spell it out for me"
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:23:14 PM: That scene is pure beauty. Did you watch 2001 with the lights off an on a big screen? It is a sight to see. That scene is for nothing more than pure visual and auditory bukkake.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:24:16 PM: The movie is beautiful, but that doesnt make a film good by itself.
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:25:36 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:22:03 PM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
To direct humans to the planet where they can evolve.

So are you saying that the monolith on the moon didnt make humans evolve? Like the others in the story?

No. It directed them to a place where they can evolve without the musings of machines. By themselves. The moon is hardly far away from the Earth. You think they'd just evolve while on the moon while resorting to their machines? That's the whole point. Evolving so they don't have to rely on machines to live in space.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:28:59 PM: Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 21, 2008, 12:22:03 PM
Quote from: Himuro on July 21, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
To direct humans to the planet where they can evolve.

So are you saying that the monolith on the moon didnt make humans evolve? Like the others in the story?

No. It directed them to a place where they can evolve without the musings of machines. By themselves. The moon is hardly far away from the Earth. You think they'd just evolve while on the moon while resorting to their machines? That's the whole point. Evolving so they don't have to rely on machines to live in space.

So basically the maguffin of the film is inconsistent on how it works. That makes sense and is completely ok to do in a story.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:31:21 PM: (http://tinyurl.com/5vrfsw)
Mr. Himu, what say you?
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Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:31:57 PM: no. it's not inconsistent. the movie splatters various visuals clues as to humans current state over and over. They learned to carve weapons from bones, use utensils, make fire. Now they're struggling just to piss in outer space, they became, once again monkeys. The first part sets the tone for the rest of the movie: man's need to evolve. The second half shows they suck at living in space and the need to step it up to the final evolutionary form in order to live in space.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:32:53 PM: (http://tinyurl.com/5vrfsw)
Ok ok. How do you respond Mr. FoC
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2008, 12:33:15 PM: the movie then tackles a much talked about issue: man vs machine. Man wins triumphant.

ugh

what am i doing? I need to go for my morning walk, not chatting with an imbecile.
Title: Re: Which classic film is TDK superior to
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 21, 2008, 12:34:38 PM: (http://tinyurl.com/6e6eu4)
And that's the last word. It's an interesting debate and uh, I hope one day we can find a solution