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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: demi on July 22, 2008, 12:57:21 AM

Title: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 12:57:21 AM
I HAVE IT AHHHHHHHHHH

CUMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 22, 2008, 01:09:58 AM
nothing to see here
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 22, 2008, 01:11:33 AM
I want it, but I'm still so burnt out on this game.  I'll probably wait a few years before picking it up so that I know I can make it all the way through and fully enjoy it.





fuck it, who am i kidding.  i'll have this by the end of the year
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 01:12:30 AM
Delete that link you faggit, we dont endorse piracy here
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: MCD on July 22, 2008, 01:15:46 AM
we don't?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 22, 2008, 01:16:38 AM
holy shit this thread is hot


I NEVER POSTED IN IT

SOMEONE ELSE IS USING MY ACCOUNT
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 22, 2008, 01:17:09 AM
Oh, thought it was fair game like magazine scans. Woospies
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 01:18:34 AM
There are watchful eyes here... you have to be careful
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 01:41:47 AM
omg the battle theme ahhhhhhhhhhhhh my ds is covered in cum i cant play
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: laesperanzapaz on July 22, 2008, 02:18:26 AM
man

gaming has become such a lackluster part of my life, i didnt know this came out

gotta get them soon.  is it better than the original SNES version?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on July 22, 2008, 06:14:55 AM
Finally. An rpg on DS worthy of my time.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And no, I don't like dungeon crawlers.
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: tiesto on July 22, 2008, 07:32:24 AM
Picking this up tonight, looking forward to it... though I've beaten the original US SNES version (and FF4j, and the GBA port) more times than any other game in history.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: CurseoftheGods on July 22, 2008, 07:37:26 AM
Downloading.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: FatalT on July 22, 2008, 07:51:05 AM
I'm enjoying it so far. I'm about 4 or 5 hours into it. About to go up to the mountain to turn Cecil over to the good side with Palom and Porom.

I haven't had any complaints with the battle system so far, but I also have the speed set to 1 (fastest). I'm really enjoying the auto-battle system and being able to pick what you want your characters to do during auto-battle. It really speeds up grinding.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 22, 2008, 09:31:03 AM
I like the map completion thing. All of the music is great, too.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 22, 2008, 09:40:17 AM
I think I may go pick this up today.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 22, 2008, 10:57:29 AM
Just got it. 

Alright.  This is getting out of hand.  I just picked up P3:FES, Civilization Revolution, and now FFIV all within a couple of days.  I've only got a week off and Angie is coming back Thursday.  I don't know when I'll actually have the time for all this shit.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 22, 2008, 11:16:52 AM
I hated FFIV DS Japanese. It's been rebalanced to hell and back.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 22, 2008, 11:20:06 AM
I hear you HSMP, this week I've got Wipeout Pure, Zelda OoS, Dead Rising half started with 1942, N+ bonus shit, and NG2 bonus shit on the way.

So I def won't be buying this, maybe in September when I'm commuting every day.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 22, 2008, 11:27:10 AM
Just got the game. Post your fucking friend codes.

257846541552
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
What do FCs do ?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: hyp on July 22, 2008, 12:36:36 PM
:hyper

omg i want this.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 22, 2008, 12:47:36 PM
I have go into work for an hour this afternoon, I'm definitely picking it up on the way home.

FFIV > All other FF's
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 22, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
This is actually pretty fucking sweet.  I hadn't been following this at all so I was kind of blown away that there was actual voice overs for this game.  Wasn't expecting that.

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 22, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
I'll probably pick this up eventually.  I never played anything but the US SNES version, and haven't touched that in nine-odd years (though every single track of music is still burned into my brain) so I'll be going in relatively fresh.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 22, 2008, 06:00:15 PM
FFIV on the DS > PS:FES.  Granted I haven't played too far into P3 yet but so far I'm loving this version of FFIV....of course that may be partially due to nostalgia.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 22, 2008, 06:55:12 PM
I'd been staying away from this on Patel's recommendation.  I asked him if maybe it was something I would like that he didn't, and he asked me 'do you like horrible grind-y shit' or something to that effect.  Can someone please offer counterpoint?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 07:07:24 PM
He's probably referring to JRPGs in general... Patel is a born-again hater of the JRPG genre
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 22, 2008, 08:56:13 PM
The video is really compressed, lots of artefacting
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 22, 2008, 09:03:33 PM
The FMV at the beginning has a lot of artifacts but the music and speech sound pretty darn good to me.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: tiesto on July 22, 2008, 10:14:19 PM
He's probably referring to JRPGs in general... Patel is a born-again hater of the JRPG genre

Patel's a sellout  :-\
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 22, 2008, 10:27:09 PM
I'd been staying away from this on Patel's recommendation.  I asked him if maybe it was something I would like that he didn't, and he asked me 'do you like horrible grind-y shit' or something to that effect.  Can someone please offer counterpoint?
Once I got in the overworld walked 5 steps and got in a random battle I realized why I hated this genre so much.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2008, 11:07:42 PM
this game is so amazing

i have played like 6 hours already
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 23, 2008, 01:11:19 AM
Man. I don't know if it's because I haven't played IV all the way through in years or what, but the music so far is like one big eargasm. I feel like I'm being bathed in nostalgia-inducing digital goodness.

I don't remember enjoying FF3 DS as much as this
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2008, 01:59:01 AM
I forgot FF4 DS was coming out so soon, I need this now!
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 23, 2008, 02:04:41 AM
NOSTALGIA + BEST GAME EVER = SUPER AWESOMENESS

:bow FFIV :bow2
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2008, 02:39:20 AM
Just left Mount Ordeals, I'm back in Mysidia.

I have been playing this all day.

This is one of the best remakes ever. It's the same game, but in many ways it feels like a totally new experience. Some bosses have been completely revamped, and a lot of scenes have a lot more impact in 3d than in 2d. I'm loving this so much.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 23, 2008, 03:20:32 AM
so is this good? FFIII DS was average at best... never played the original FFIV
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 03:25:09 AM
this game sucks dick

* enemies are way too fucking strong
* augments? auto potion?
* whyt and stupid pet growing sim shit
* no zoom in feature to find hidden items like FF3, seriously what decision is that
* 3D DS makes my dick go soft
* music isnt as hot as original

chalk it up for nostalgia, this game blows goats
/me loads up FFIV Advance
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Vizzys on July 23, 2008, 03:26:06 AM
so is this good? FFIII DS was average at best... never played the original FFIV

ff4 was a good game, maybe one of the best final fantasys
this is impressive remake with 3d graphix and pretty good voice acting

ff3 was trash
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 03:28:04 AM
wait for Dragon Quest 4 instead...
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 03:40:55 AM
Scenester if you nver played FFIV, do so... its amazing. But the DS version just isnt so hot. Play Advance on your DS... its absolute bonerton
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: MCD on July 23, 2008, 03:46:53 AM
hahaha.

i told you demi!
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: laesperanzapaz on July 23, 2008, 03:49:36 AM
Scenester if you nver played FFIV, do so... its amazing. But the DS version just isnt so hot. Play Advance on your DS... its absolute bonerton
i believe the advance version has some major technical issues.  not sure if true tho
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 23, 2008, 03:51:50 AM
/me loads up FFIV Advance
Enjoy your massive slowdown and obscenely easy battles lolo
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: MCD on July 23, 2008, 03:54:35 AM
Quote
The developers made several changes for this release. The enhanced graphics from the WonderSwan Color port have been even further improved, and minor changes have been made to the music. Earlier versions of the game also suffered from many bugs during battles, these were fixed partially for the European release. The localization team revised the English translation, improving the flow of the story, and certain plot details absent from the original have been restored.[58] The player can change characters among Edward, Yang, Porom, Palom and Cid after defeating the Giant of Babel, although Cecil must be in the party at all times. Two new dungeons have been added: a new cave at Mt. Ordeals featuring powerful armor and stronger weapons for five additional characters, and the Lunar Ruins, accessible only at the end of the game.[58] New trials exist for each character at this location, reachable only after a particular character has defeated the final boss, for example Cid's trial involves ferrying people around in an airship, and Rydia's trial involves fighting her own summons. The Lunar Ruins feature some of the best items in the game and another version of Zeromus to fight. This is his alternate scorpion form from the Easytype version, dubbed Zeromus EG. Also available for battle are a superboss named Brachioraidos and lunar versions of the summons, comparable to the dark aeons in Final Fantasy X.[66]

Up to three game saves are possible. In addition, a "quick save" function is available in which the player can save the game anywhere (except in battle or dialogue), but the saved data is lost if he/she continues from that save point. Completing the game unlocks a music player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy_4
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 23, 2008, 03:58:46 AM
Quote
The developers made several changes for this release. The enhanced graphics from the WonderSwan Color port have been even further improved, and minor changes have been made to the music. Earlier versions of the game also suffered from many bugs during battles, these were fixed partially for the European release. The localization team revised the English translation, improving the flow of the story, and certain plot details absent from the original have been restored.[58] The player can change characters among Edward, Yang, Porom, Palom and Cid after defeating the Giant of Babel, although Cecil must be in the party at all times. Two new dungeons have been added: a new cave at Mt. Ordeals featuring powerful armor and stronger weapons for five additional characters, and the Lunar Ruins, accessible only at the end of the game.[58] New trials exist for each character at this location, reachable only after a particular character has defeated the final boss, for example Cid's trial involves ferrying people around in an airship, and Rydia's trial involves fighting her own summons. The Lunar Ruins feature some of the best items in the game and another version of Zeromus to fight. This is his alternate scorpion form from the Easytype version, dubbed Zeromus EG. Also available for battle are a superboss named Brachioraidos and lunar versions of the summons, comparable to the dark aeons in Final Fantasy X.[66]

Up to three game saves are possible. In addition, a "quick save" function is available in which the player can save the game anywhere (except in battle or dialogue), but the saved data is lost if he/she continues from that save point. Completing the game unlocks a music player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy_4

Ohh
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 23, 2008, 03:59:20 AM
I have the Advance version. I can vouch for the obtrusive slowdown during battles (even sometimes during running on the field).
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
lmao demi is weaksauce
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2008, 03:55:16 PM
An npc just said this in FFIV ds:

Oh Stella, how I love you! Wait, you're not really a woman are you?!

:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 23, 2008, 08:22:17 PM
Demi has come through with the backup to Patel's hate

I will skip this I suppose.  A shame, this game deserved better
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2008, 10:02:36 PM
Fuck Dark Elf.

Demi has come through with the backup to Patel's hate

I will skip this I suppose.  A shame, this game deserved better

You are dumb.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 23, 2008, 10:06:51 PM
Way dumb.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on July 23, 2008, 10:21:41 PM
Is this as hard as they said it was in EGM?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 23, 2008, 10:33:20 PM
I just made it to Mount Ordeals.  I'll probably become a paladin then go to bed.  It's a pretty kickass remake so far.  I had a little trouble on the bomb boss when you meet Yang for the first time.  I didn't defend the first time I tried it and the only person left standing when it blew up was Yang with about 50 hp.  The second time Yang and Cecil lived but the smaller bombs killed anyone I rez'd immediately and then got Cecil.  The third time it took about 7 phoenix downs but I finally got a healer to stay up.  Probably because there were only 3 small bombs left at that point.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 11:07:47 PM
Is this as hard as they said it was in EGM?

Enemies were petrifying me right outside Castle Baron
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
dark elf fight is the hardest fight i've encountered in a final fantasy in years.

holy shit.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 24, 2008, 12:08:18 AM
Holy crap! My friend bought this for me for my birthday. Hope to play it soon.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 02:30:49 AM
Goodness this game is tough. I've ran out of ethers and phoenix downs in the Tower of Zot. This place is TOUGH. Normal enemies will RAPE YOU. I got 3-4 game overs from just the normal enemies alone.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Enl on July 24, 2008, 02:34:20 AM
Good to hear that they didn't skimp on the difficulty. I might pick this up sooner than expected.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 24, 2008, 05:30:50 AM
I really think the FF3 remake was a bit harder than this. I remember consistently being hit for 1/3 and 1/4 of my health. I have yet to grind so far and I haven't had any full party deaths yet. Then again, that might be because I heal to full after every battle though.  I'm only at Mt. Ordeals so far, so maybe it does get harder. It's definitely not a cakewalk though. Getting hit with Toad over and over and over and over and over and over again in the cave to the octo-whatever with Tellah was pretty annoying.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 24, 2008, 08:42:44 AM
I am alright with the game being challenging, but some stuff is just cheap. When I first got Rydia she was a full 3 levels lower than Cecil and had very few hitpoints. Well, how about some grinding? That would be fine and fucking dandy but her defense and HP are so low that she dies if attacked more than once in a battle. I am fine with a little grinding and I even enjoyed the FF3 remake on DS, which required extensive grinding, but at least make it fucking possible. Stupid design imo.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 24, 2008, 11:13:02 AM
Just keep battling until a boss or a situation where Cecil can ultrafuck the enemies.  Rydia will start to gain some levels.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 24, 2008, 11:56:20 AM
That's what I did. But now I just got Edward and it's the same deal, except he is even comparatively lower than when I got Rydia. At least now there are 3 party members instead of just 2.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 24, 2008, 12:19:27 PM
All I ever really do with Edward is his little regen thing.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 24, 2008, 12:25:22 PM
I've actually put a few enemies to sleep with his lullaby song, so he isn't completely useless. I just hate how the new characters that join your party are such a low level.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
FF4 ds is entirely different. This game is fucking hard. There are enemies that will one hit kill you. Enemies petrify you RIGHT OUTSIDE OF BARON. At the Tower of Zot the difficulty really ramps up. On the original version, The Tower of Zot was easy as shit. Here, I fight Soldieresses that dish out 300-500 hp at my guys per hit, and I typically fight at least 3 of them at once. And those are just some of the random battles. There's a treasure chest with the Flame Sword in it, there's a fire dog in it, this fire dog casts a fire spell that can kill 3/4 party members except Cecil in one hit. There's another monster that's an ice variation of the same monster, it's not as powerful but just as deadly and it's NOT only included in a treasure chest, you fight it regularly here.

...

This is so awesome.

I am alright with the game being challenging, but some stuff is just cheap. When I first got Rydia she was a full 3 levels lower than Cecil and had very few hitpoints. Well, how about some grinding? That would be fine and fucking dandy but her defense and HP are so low that she dies if attacked more than once in a battle. I am fine with a little grinding and I even enjoyed the FF3 remake on DS, which required extensive grinding, but at least make it fucking possible. Stupid design imo.

Go get Tellah at the cave. You'll have more backup, making leveling up Rydia easier and you can do it normally without having to grind.

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 01:46:47 PM
I've actually put a few enemies to sleep with his lullaby song, so he isn't completely useless. I just hate how the new characters that join your party are such a low level.

Edward's NEVER useless. His success rate for putting enemies to sleep or confusing them is ridiculous, they hit all enemies, AND they don't cost mp.

Also, some bosses are so much easier with Life Song or whatever it is.

Edward rocks. Haters suck my hairy balls.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 01:51:13 PM
Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 24, 2008, 02:03:42 PM
Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.



I don't see why not.  Both FIII DS and IVDS are pretty popular in Japan, and it's logical for them to.

I don't know if they'll do one for FFV though.  I'd like to see them do it.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 24, 2008, 02:09:38 PM
FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.


Me too. I hope they do that. Even V would be pretty cool
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 02:11:02 PM
Whew. I had to leave the Tower of Zot because I needed supplies. Time to go kick the Magus Sisters' asses.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 02:11:32 PM
Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.



I don't see why not.  Both FIII DS and IVDS are pretty popular in Japan, and it's logical for them to.

I don't know if they'll do one for FFV though.  I'd like to see them do it.

FFV is one of the most popular FF's in Japan. They'll do it.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 24, 2008, 02:12:26 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 02:16:31 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.

Er. FFI and II for psp are by far the best looking 2d FF's.

(http://www.dignews.com/admin/screenshoot/ff2_psp_01.jpg)

(http://www.gamepro.com/sony/psp/games/reviews/images/118729-1.jpg)

(http://www.modojo.com/media/games/final_fantasy/psp/9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 24, 2008, 02:17:30 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.

Hey Wiitard, I will be the judge of what looks shitty
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 24, 2008, 02:24:57 PM
Okay well the enemies look cool, but I'm a little disgusted by the design of your party.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2008, 03:35:30 PM
it's definitely dated, but you can still have fun with it.  it uses the job system like FF3 and FFX-2, and has a fair amount of challenge.  everything outside of the battle system is pretty shit tho.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?

Of course. Check out the Advance version.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: tiesto on July 24, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?

Hell yeah, it's the best one.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Rman on July 24, 2008, 06:04:46 PM
The fonts on the PSP games are HORRENDOUS.
/fontsnob
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 07:39:01 PM
I fucking hate the Golbez fight in this version.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
Okay well the enemies look cool, but I'm a little disgusted by the design of your party.

yeah because this looks so much better

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/SuperEclipse/final-fantasy-iii-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Crushed on July 24, 2008, 07:54:16 PM
why did you blow up that picture using bicubic interpolation to almost three times its normal size
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 07:54:45 PM
I didnt do shit, see the ign watermark?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Crushed on July 24, 2008, 07:56:13 PM
oh


well then it appears ign has been following the 1up school of screenshots
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 07:57:07 PM
yeah I was looking for a really bad screenshot to enhance my ds troll
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Crushed on July 24, 2008, 07:57:49 PM
perfectly understandable then, carry on
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 08:00:10 PM
:piss DS 3d :piss2

sub N64 shit

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Etrian Odyssey still rules though
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: MoxManiac on July 24, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
Is demi hating on FFIV DS because of the shitty 3D graphics? If so, that's understandable.

But if he's shitting on it because of the increased difficulty, which is AWESOME, then demi is a fagatron deluxe!
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 24, 2008, 08:24:16 PM
God damnit.  This game is ridiculously hard to the point I'm not even enjoying it anymore.  Every battle can wipe your party out and gil is hard as hell to come by....ugh.  Someone tell me there's some code that I can enter that'll set the difficulty level to "normal" instead of the otaku rpg god level it's currently at.

I'm with demi on this one.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2008, 09:37:24 PM
ds 3d ain't bad.

What makes up for ds 3d, particularly with FFIV ds, is the quality of the animations. The animations, especially in the cutscenes, are really really good.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 24, 2008, 09:50:44 PM
Wow.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just got to the cutscene where Anna dies. It was always one of my most favorite scenes in the entire game, but now that it's fully voiced and choreographed, it's even more emotional. I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for Edward or call him a pussy. One one hand, his mom and dad died, and his lover died. On the other, he gets owned by a little girl and Cecil bitchslaps him. Also, Tellah is pretty badass in this scene.
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TVC15 on July 24, 2008, 09:59:37 PM
Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Crushed on July 24, 2008, 10:00:44 PM
Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_Software
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 24, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
by the way,

Also, the word is that the US version has cut some of the cutscenes due to Square wanting to fit English/French/Spanish/etc on one cart to speed up international release, but not wanting to pay up for increasing the size of the cart.

Was this ever confirmed/denied? Would be a tragedy if true.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 24, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.

It's like the ultimate fucking knife in the back...

At least they made The World Ends With You... everyone should go replay that.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 10:33:22 PM
Oh I forgot about TWEWY... might have to be my next DS game once I beat Etrian 2
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: y2kev on July 24, 2008, 10:35:35 PM
The random battle difficulty is a bit off, but the boss battles are not too tough if you go in with the right strategy. I'm surprised at how things I thought impossible work when you use a cocktail of buffs and debuffs and time things well.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 24, 2008, 10:43:43 PM
Wait, why is this a bad remake?

I don't understand.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: MCD on July 24, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
Wait, why is this a bad remake?

I don't understand.
and you will never understand.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 24, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
nfags pwned, go stick your copy of Blast Corps up your ass
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 24, 2008, 10:56:22 PM
can someone please answer my question :'(
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 24, 2008, 11:15:31 PM
The random battle difficulty is a bit off, but the boss battles are not too tough if you go in with the right strategy. I'm surprised at how things I thought impossible work when you use a cocktail of buffs and debuffs and time things well.

Still, they should've given us a difficulty option.  I just want to play the game normally and not at some fucktard crazy hard setting.  I don't have the patience anymore for this kind of shit.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 25, 2008, 07:26:04 AM
Good God, I hate the enemies that can singlehandedly wipe out your party in one hit. I just came to the enemy that King Baron turns into and he wiped out 3 of my party members before I could even select an action. I know some of you like difficult games, and I personally don't have a problem with them, but any game that requires you to die in order to develop a decent strategy is bad design, imo.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 25, 2008, 09:01:35 AM
I have just confirmed how shitty the difficulty in this game is. I spent the last hour grinding my party up 3-5 levels to face that fucker Cagnazzo again. Not only that, but I make sure to cast Protect and Shell in the first 2 turns with Porom. The same bullshit happens again the first time I faced him. He spams tsunami and wipes out my entire party. It wouldn't be as bad if he had a cool down for that, but fuck no, he can cast it back to back almost immediately.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
lmao @ the weaksauce pussy gamers complaining about this game

ahahahhahahahaha
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 11:45:36 AM
Wow.

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I just got to the cutscene where Anna dies. It was always one of my most favorite scenes in the entire game, but now that it's fully voiced and choreographed, it's even more emotional. I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for Edward or call him a pussy. One one hand, his mom and dad died, and his lover died. On the other, he gets owned by a little girl and Cecil bitchslaps him. Also, Tellah is pretty badass in this scene.
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that's the only time edward is EVER a pussy though. and he shapes up within 30 seconds.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 11:47:38 AM
cast thunder on cagnazzo when he's getting ready to cast that tsunami spell.

Problem solved.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 25, 2008, 11:52:10 AM
How can you guys go ZOMG over EO2 and then shit on this? Espeically with EO2's useless classes and fucked up bugs.

I'm enjoying it so far. The 3D doesn't always work and I definitely miss the sprites, but one thing: The camera work in the scripted cinemas is pretty great. It feels very cinematic instead of the Kevin Smith-esque "Point the camera at the people who are talking and wait" school of direction. There are some pretty dynamic sequences.

It is fucking hard as hell. I barely have the $$ for Eyedrops and every fucking enemy in that first cave blinds Cecil in like .5 nanoseconds. F that. Also, Blind is upped to like 100% miss.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
How can you guys go ZOMG over EO2 and then shit on this? Espeically with EO2's useless classes and fucked up bugs.

PUSSY GAMERS

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 25, 2008, 11:55:52 AM
I think it's the 2D art in EO2. Very classic. It just brings the love back. FF4 is just a big rape scene. The ruin of a classic. The end of an era. You don't want to get involved with that.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on July 25, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
I'd love to try this game out, but the difficulty seems to be like EO2. I just don't have time for that kind of game.

Is the GBA version easier?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 25, 2008, 11:59:23 AM
The GBA version is definitely the one to get.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 25, 2008, 12:00:25 PM
I think it's the 2D art in EO2. Very classic. It just brings the love back. FF4 is just a big rape scene. The ruin of a classic. The end of an era. You don't want to get involved with that.

Classic? It's DS 3D with Animu under-age LOLI party members. The only classic thing is the gameplay.

I understand what you mean, I miss the sprites, but I don't think it's game endingly awful.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 25, 2008, 12:01:37 PM
You forgot the enemies, and the music. Both of which are ugly in FF4.

Final Fantasy is looking to be a lost cause... DQ4 will show you the love, GilloD. I'd hate for you to be wrong twice. FFTA and now this? Poor guy.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 12:04:38 PM
FFIV ds' enemies ARE THE EXACT SAME except they've been transitioned into 3d.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 25, 2008, 12:52:10 PM
You forgot the enemies, and the music. Both of which are ugly in FF4.

Final Fantasy is looking to be a lost cause... DQ4 will show you the love, GilloD. I'd hate for you to be wrong twice. FFTA and now this? Poor guy.

I wore out FFTA pretty fast. I've never seen a game with such a distinguished mentally-challenged progress curve.

I'm so psyched for the DQ remakes I can't believe it. Especially for DQ5, but I never got to play DQ4.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: y2kev on July 25, 2008, 12:59:58 PM
The random battle difficulty is a bit off, but the boss battles are not too tough if you go in with the right strategy. I'm surprised at how things I thought impossible work when you use a cocktail of buffs and debuffs and time things well.

Still, they should've given us a difficulty option.  I just want to play the game normally and not at some fucktard crazy hard setting.  I don't have the patience anymore for this kind of shit.

I knew when I played the Japanese version that most people weren't going to like this. I gave up on it then. It's not really fun early on.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 25, 2008, 01:07:49 PM
The joy of TWEWY (the better game, which it will now be called) is that you can set your own difficulty. Have some sort of chest to thump? Set it to max nut crusher. Want to enjoy the delicious gameplay and awesome art and spritework? Then by all means, set it as such.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Vizzys on July 25, 2008, 01:20:49 PM
hmm I got past that dark elf last night

everyone was dead except cecil who had 63hp

I knew I was pretty much fucked until the last attack with the sword did the trick, amazingly

first boss that has come close to beating my party

amazing luck
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 25, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
I almost lost at the Octomammoth  :lol

Cecil was the only one alive with 6 HP.  6!

I haven't really gotten to a point where the game is super hard though.  I'm at the mountain where Rydia uses Fire for the first time, and the difficulty has ramped up a tad.  I'm gonna try and get my party above 20 and then tackle it.

This is pretty great, I love it.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
The joy of TWEWY (the better game, which it will now be called) is that you can set your own difficulty. Have some sort of chest to thump? Set it to max nut crusher. Want to enjoy the delicious gameplay and awesome art and spritework? Then by all means, set it as such.

TWEWY sucks. Stupid scratch and sniff gameplay. Horrible main character. The works.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Crushed on July 25, 2008, 05:41:32 PM
So, before I get the game, I want to check with you guys.

Who set the Battle Speed to 6?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 25, 2008, 08:26:21 PM
I don't have much free time right now so this is the first time I'm getting in with the game since Wednesday.  I played through the Baron sewer break-in and killed Cagnazzo.  Random battles were really easy down there except for the guards who you only run into on one screen.  Both boss fights were a bit of a pain in the ass as it took me far too long to learn/remember how to win.  On the snake arm guy I killed a couple party members with reflected spells and then it took me a while to get everyone in good shape to use twin spells.  On Cagnazzo I went through about 12 phoenix downs before I started stopping tsunamis and learned to avoid status effects.  It's nice to have boss fights that are more than just using your best attacks/spells 5-10 times.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: FatalT on July 26, 2008, 09:01:05 AM
I don't have much free time right now so this is the first time I'm getting in with the game since Wednesday.  I played through the Baron sewer break-in and killed Cagnazzo.  Random battles were really easy down there except for the guards who you only run into on one screen.  Both boss fights were a bit of a pain in the ass as it took me far too long to learn/remember how to win.  On the snake arm guy I killed a couple party members with reflected spells and then it took me a while to get everyone in good shape to use twin spells.  On Cagnazzo I went through about 12 phoenix downs before I started stopping tsunamis and learned to avoid status effects.  It's nice to have boss fights that are more than just using your best attacks/spells 5-10 times.

Blargh, just fought against him and got annihilated. I need to grind a bit to get my levels up. One problem is that I had no MP or anything before that boss battle in the first place. Silly me. I had no problems with the snake arm guy because I just used 2 twincasts against him and he was goooone.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 26, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
You can sleep in Cecil's room between the two boss fights BTW.

I killed the dark elf last night.  On the first try I got killed by his second form.  On the second I just cast shell right before he went into his second form and then it wasn't too bad.  I went into Zot and the random battles were fairly easy until I ran into the frozen animals.  They cast blizzard (or w/e) back to back and after that only Cecil was left standing so of course my party wiped.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 26, 2008, 11:28:29 AM
I think it's the 2D art in EO2. Very classic. It just brings the love back. FF4 is just a big rape scene. The ruin of a classic. The end of an era. You don't want to get involved with that.

I loled at 'big rape scene'

and there are no fucking bugs in EO2, just no easily abusable broken abilities
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 26, 2008, 12:30:09 PM
The tower of Zot was surprisingly easy.  The delta sisters barely touched me and Barbariccia was the easiest of the fiends so far.  I think I prefer this version to the original.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 26, 2008, 07:54:49 PM
cubicle, what are your levels man?  You've been having a fairly easy time.  What was your levels around the time you got to the mountain after the Antlion cave?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 26, 2008, 08:23:19 PM
i was 23 cecil, 22 rydia, 16 rosa and 16 edward at the mount hobs myself -- haven't had any problem in the game so far, although i'm just getting started. it's definitely harder than the original, but not detrimentally so. as for mount hobs: remember, cure/cura damage undead.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 26, 2008, 09:22:57 PM
Oh fuck, thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot they were undead.  :lol

I'm around the same levels as you, actually.  Just wanted to be sure before I continued.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 26, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
I made it to the moon.  Level range is 51-58.  I haven't done any grinding but I do explore every part of the map so there's often a lot of backtracking.  Random battles are easy (I actually rarely use more the prayer) except for a few combinations (2-3 creatures that do absurdly overpowered aoe's).

You're in for some interesting boss battles.  The doctor in the tower of babel randomly reverses what your abilities do.  It was a pretty frustrating fight because of the switching back and forth.  When reversed he'd do a "healing" attack that would hit everyone for 1200 hp and phoenix downs would resurrect someone only to do 80 dmg to them immediately so they'd fall back over.  So I have characters hitting themselves or other people in the party for healing and then he'd reverse and I'd kill myself (same with queuing a heal right before he happened to reverse).  Also, I solo'd Rubicante with Cecil because even with shell the only people who could survive his main fire attack were Cecil and Kain (because of their ice armor and hp) and I accidently let Kain die.  I tried a couple times to get the group up but realized it was pointless after the second time.  The boss in the sealed cave managed to kill one of my party members before I finished him and I had everyone hasted, all melee berserked, and Rydia casting her best summon the entire time so it would appear I'm not too far ahead of the leveling curve.

Anyway, I'm done for the night.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 26, 2008, 10:56:57 PM
Is the CRYSTAL SWORD in it? I loved earning that. FFIV is the best Final Fantasy, hands down. Shame this version is poop. Must replay.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: CurseoftheGods on July 27, 2008, 09:54:12 AM
I'm playing it with an EXP modifier because I hate grinding in RPG's. I am loving it so far.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 27, 2008, 11:02:53 AM
The joy of TWEWY (the better game, which it will now be called) is that you can set your own difficulty. Have some sort of chest to thump? Set it to max nut crusher. Want to enjoy the delicious gameplay and awesome art and spritework? Then by all means, set it as such.

Where was this attitude when I didn't want to grind in BD hard mode :lol
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 27, 2008, 12:53:56 PM
You're not honestly comparing BD's hard mode to this
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 27, 2008, 03:00:46 PM
It took me awhile to adjust to it but I'm coming around on this game.  I just passed the Tower of Babel and while I'm still running into shit that just seems cheap (like those blue monster dog things in the Tower of Zot that would cast blizzard on you twice in a row) and the low level point of entry for some characters pisses me off 'cause the game is forcing you to grind, I'm having more fun with it now than I did earlier.  I still would've liked a difficulty option at the title menu but whatever.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 27, 2008, 03:20:59 PM
finally died at the lugae fight. reversal gas = TEH SUK
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 27, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
I might have to get this, or FFIV Advance, depending on how cheap it is
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 27, 2008, 09:03:13 PM
I might have to get this, or FFIV Advance, depending on how cheap it is

You have to play the Advance version to enjoy that delicious pixel goodness.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 27, 2008, 09:06:07 PM
Yeah, I was wrong on this being easier than FF3 DS. This is probably the most difficult version of Final Fantasy I've ever played. I spent 1 hour fighting Cagwhateverthefuck because I didn't realize that I could cancel tsunamis until I had used every single Phoenix Down I had. I had my entire party up and I thought things would go smooth from there. Unfortunately he got off one more tsunami; *death* procced on everyone in my party other than Cecil. Honestly I don't even know if an LLG would be possible on this version. I spent 45 minutes with no one but Cecil, attacking for ~200 and healing myself when needed. I thought I might be able to outlast the boss's MP pool and he would stop healing himself when he did his little turtle thing but I don't even think his spells take mana. And if they do, he's got like a billion MP, because by the time he finally managed to chip me down from 900 hp to dead in one paralyze I had gone through 5 Ethers and 14 Hi-Potions.

Of course I walked right through him the next time since I knew what to do, although chain casting slow and countering every physical attack with paralyze seemed a little cheap. I still don't have any complaint with the difficulty though. It keeps me from playing through the entire game in one sitting if anything
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 27, 2008, 09:42:05 PM
There isn't anything else in the game that's as lame as that Dr. Lugae fight in the Tower of Babel, right?  I seem to remember the Demon Wall being a bitch but at least there weren't any status reversal bullshit like there was in that fight with the doctor or did they change that too? 

I swear some of these boss battles in this game were designed by Satan himself. 
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 27, 2008, 10:10:45 PM
yeah, i need to retry the lugae fight -- kinda put a crimp in my hithertofore undefeated stride. his second form just frickin' wiped me.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 28, 2008, 12:43:43 AM
Just beat it after a marathon session.  I was a little worried that I'd fucked myself by saving on the moon because you come back from the moon and go straight into the robot that comes out of the tower of babel and a few of the enemies in there are motherfuckers (the little lasers) and I didn't know if I could even make it to the save point.  Also, the attack node of the CPU fight killed me before I could get a spell off probably 3 times by chain attacking.  The 4th time I got slow off and after that the fight was easy.  I had to grind some on the moon to be able to explore in the final dungeon.  Once I started getting a few levels and upgrades things fell into place, though.  It was just hours of shell/protect and slow/stop.  I only picked up a couple augments because I didn't understand how they worked and skipped some things (the summoner place, for one, so I didn't pick up any summons, Excalibur, didn't get Yang's augments from the Faerie place, etc, so the game could have been a lot easier.  It probably would have taken a bit longer, though, and I wanted to beat the game today.

Crystal sword is now Ragnarok, Demi.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 28, 2008, 12:50:40 AM
worst version - ever
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2008, 04:18:18 AM
I name everything after Ragnarok.

I name my army Ragnarok in Suikoden.

I name my ship Ragnarok in Kingdom Hearts.

I name my guild in EO Ragnarok.

If I have to name an organization or vehicle it is being called fucking Ragnarok.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Bloodwake on July 28, 2008, 05:48:49 AM
I haven't played this hardcore due to work and my need to only play FFIV whenever I'm taking a huge shit, but yeah, this game kicks some ass.

FFIV + Shit = WIN.

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: The Sceneman on July 28, 2008, 06:51:57 AM
I name everything after Ragnarok.

I name my army Ragnarok in Suikoden.

I name my ship Ragnarok in Kingdom Hearts.

I name my guild in EO Ragnarok.

If I have to name an organization or vehicle it is being called fucking Ragnarok.

lol
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 28, 2008, 09:33:41 AM
Crystal Sword was Ragnarok in the GBA version, too.  And possibly also in the PSX version.

Worst version(s) - ever
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 28, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Just made Cecil a Paladin.  That last boss was tougher than usual, but I still got by fairly easily.  Parom's Fira packs a punch.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 29, 2008, 12:26:12 AM
I don't find this game bad at all. It can be hard but some grinding here and there will do you fine. I'm used to grinding by now so I have no problem with it. This isn't your typical "keep pressing A, win battle" TBRPG either, so battles aren't boring.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 29, 2008, 02:36:21 AM
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I'm about ready to head off to the moon but after all this time,
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I still haven't figured out where all these augments are.  I've got a handfull of them but only used two - counter for Cecil and goblin for Reil...uh...whatever the summoner chick's name is.  Where are these things?  I've seen lists online of augments like Limit Breaks, Double Cast, 50% HP, etc. but I haven't run across any of them.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Vizzys on July 29, 2008, 02:40:07 AM
I'm about ready to head off to the moon but after all this time, I still haven't figured out where all these augments are.  I've got a handfull of them but only used two - counter for Cecil and goblin for Reil...uh...whatever the summoner chick's name is.  Where are these things?  I've seen lists online of augments like Limit Breaks, Double Cast, 50% HP, etc. but I haven't run across any of them.

yeah you get them in strange ways
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like giving augments to people who die gives you more augments

and like when you beat cagnazzo his tsunami augment shows up in B3 of that cavern beneath Baron castle where you sneaked in, dumb stuff like that
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 29, 2008, 02:44:32 AM
Fuck that then.  I hate that kind of bullshit.  It's basically forcing you to use a guide to access them.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Vizzys on July 29, 2008, 02:46:12 AM
yeah I wouldnt bother trying to get them all or anything

they are a helpful bonus that is completely optional
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 29, 2008, 09:24:50 AM
Now that I've put in a couple of hours with this game, let me comment:

-I don't think this game is very hard. I just got Porum and porridge or whatever and I haven't had a single character die yet. Maybe I was too into grind mode, but I sliced through the Octomammoth in about 5 rounds and absolutely devastated the Antlion.

-CAN I KEEP A FUCKING CHARACTER FOR MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

-What's with the game going: "Here, have your 25th party member. And, oh, they're 15 levels lower than you". P&P are level TEN when you get them Cecil is level 25. The enemies are on par with Cecil. What the fuck.

Other than that, WAY better than FF3. I remember reading about this game in Nintendo Power, but never playing it. It attained a kind of mythic status, so it's nice to finally play it. I just haven't found it to be that hard yet. Other than the constant party swapping.

What's with Augments? I've found every treasure and I still only have one. I was supposed to get Counter, but I can't find it in my inventory. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 29, 2008, 09:28:20 AM
You should go back and play the original...
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 29, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
the augments are under "key items"
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 29, 2008, 09:43:57 PM
Now that I've put in a couple of hours with this game, let me comment:

-I don't think this game is very hard. I just got Porum and porridge or whatever and I haven't had a single character die yet. Maybe I was too into grind mode, but I sliced through the Octomammoth in about 5 rounds and absolutely devastated the Antlion.

I said almost the exact same thing up until the fight with Cagnazzo

I really think the FF3 remake was a bit harder than this. I remember consistently being hit for 1/3 and 1/4 of my health. I have yet to grind so far and I haven't had any full party deaths yet.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 29, 2008, 11:06:48 PM
The Golbez fight was the one that made me question my sanity for even playing the game.  That was a ball buster for me.  Having to fight Golbez immediately after Calcobrena and having to do it basically with just one guy (I was able to get Rosa into it for a time or two) and not being able to use an elemental weapon so it forced me to wield some shitty sword that had like 30pt attack differential to my best one..... man talk about a bitch.  I had to spend a few hours of grinding just to be able to live through that by the skin of my teeth.

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But that was then and now I just got FuSoYa and I'm ready for the final push.  Let's do this.
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 29, 2008, 11:19:44 PM
The giant of babel was a real bitch.  The actual boss fights are pretty easy but some of the fucking enemies are absurd and you run into them a lot.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 29, 2008, 11:26:44 PM
But weren't your characters underdeveloped?  You said your party level was hovering in the 50's by the time you
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went to the moon.
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  What were they at when you went into
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the giant?
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 30, 2008, 07:11:45 AM
About the same.  But there are lasers in there that hit the full party for around 1500 (IIRC) and you'll often fight two and another monster at the same time.

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I hit the moon first with Cecil at 58 and Edge at 51, I maybe gained 2 levels inside the giant so I would have gone back to the moon for the assault on the core at 53-60.
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: CurseoftheGods on July 30, 2008, 09:33:07 AM
Guys, use spoiler tags please. It's my first time playing this game. I am sure others are in the same boat too. :(
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 30, 2008, 10:32:56 AM
Arrgh.  Wrong button.

Spoilers done though.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: CurseoftheGods on July 30, 2008, 10:59:08 AM
Arrgh.  Wrong button.

Spoilers done though.

Thanks, HSMP. :D
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 30, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
This game LOVES to load on the spell casters. Can I get another physical broham up in here?

To anyone else who's played the myriad versions, are there a lot of story changes in the DS version?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 30, 2008, 11:13:51 AM
no, no real story changes save a little fleshing out of the cecil/kain history
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 30, 2008, 12:22:01 PM
There's a fairly large piece of story added that happens
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after you kill the CPU in the giant, Golbez/Cecil as children, Kluya and his interaction with the world.
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As for physical fighters
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after you make your way back to Baron there is only one time when you aren't stacked with physical attackers.
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 30, 2008, 02:27:16 PM
Guys, use spoiler tags please. It's my first time playing this game. I am sure others are in the same boat too. :(
I agree. I've played 2 other versions of this game in the past, but I've never beaten it.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TVC15 on July 30, 2008, 03:47:12 PM
Are there any added bonuses, like, say, being able to choose party members at the endgame or anything like that?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: cubicle47b on July 30, 2008, 04:55:08 PM
Are there any added bonuses, like, say, being able to choose party members at the endgame or anything like that?

No, sorry.  There's a new game+ mode where you characters retain their augments but the final party is set.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on July 30, 2008, 10:32:10 PM
Finals are over, so I decided to give it a shot. Seems as if grinding a bit helps the difficulty. Shouldn't be too bad then.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on July 31, 2008, 12:04:42 PM
Finals are over, so I decided to give it a shot. Seems as if grinding a bit helps the difficulty. Shouldn't be too bad then.

Not even grinding for me, just due caution. Like clear 2 rooms of a cavern, warp out, come back and do 2 more, warp out, on and on.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on July 31, 2008, 01:32:55 PM
Thanks...good to know. Didn't get a chance to play it last night (GeoWars2). Hopefully, I can get it started by the end of the weekend.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 01:39:37 PM
I played the game for the first time lastnight.

I must say I am underwhelmed...

I also cant get over how Cecil and the dragoon look like vieutiful Joe characters with the big head/helmets...

I dont really think this game is worth it so far...

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 31, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
I also cant get over how Cecil and the dragoon look like vieutiful Joe characters with the big head/helmets...

Wait 'til you get a load of Yang.  He looks like he just stepped out of a diaper commercial and someone slapped a moustache on him.

Not really how I ever envisioned that character.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 01:46:48 PM
They could have at least remixxed the music...

Right now its the same as the music on my PSOne FF IV

This is most certainly not a must have like it was hyped to be...

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 01:47:52 PM
Honestly this crap just moves me one step further towards exiling Nintendo from my gaming stack again and going all PS3/PC


Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2008, 03:25:55 PM
Jesus why would you say a thing like that

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Nintendo didn't make this game
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Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 31, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
Does anyone else think Yang's design is a little homo or is it just me?
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 31, 2008, 04:07:52 PM
(http://spoonybard.org/fanlisting/dawn/yang.jpg)

He's always been a tad queer looking to me.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 06:26:41 PM
Jesus why would you say a thing like that

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Nintendo didn't make this game
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No nintendo didnt - but im really bored of their software lineup overall...first party, etc..

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: demi on July 31, 2008, 06:36:02 PM
(http://spoonybard.org/fanlisting/dawn/yang.jpg)

He's always been a tad queer looking to me.

Karnov would fuck you in your boyish asshole, I would watch what you say
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 06:36:41 PM
oh man - when is someone gonna remake KArnov>?

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on July 31, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
Karnov was Data East right?

We also need a new BAD DUDES!

Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Candyflip on July 31, 2008, 08:36:29 PM
Does anyone else think Yang's design is a little homo or is it just me?
It's that smear of yellow poop he has above his upper lip
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 31, 2008, 10:48:32 PM
I played the game for the first time lastnight.

I must say I am underwhelmed...

I also cant get over how Cecil and the dragoon look like vieutiful Joe characters with the big head/helmets...

I dont really think this game is worth it so far...



sounds pretty bad.  you should send your copy to me.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 02, 2008, 04:20:58 AM
Gotta say I'm digging it.  I've played through this game a zillion times, and while it is possibly my favorite nostalgia-tinted JRPG ever, it's nice to have it be a lil' different.

My main complaint as of right now is that it's too "true" to the original in regards to camera angle and level layouts.  If they were going to bother modeling all the old shit into 3d, why not do a bit of expanding and redesigning?  Similarly, why emulate the OG battle camera angle rather than going for something FF& inspired, which the DS should have been able to handle.  Heck, even a 3/4ths perspective.

I'm digging the additional difficulty, but so far it's really not so difficult.  It just seems like an enemy in each area has drunk some badass sauce since the last port of the game. 
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on August 02, 2008, 04:23:52 AM
I at least need to play thru a few bosses before I write it off.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 02, 2008, 04:46:06 AM
I at least need to play thru a few bosses before I write it off.

I have to echo something Prole said the other day:  in some areas, it seems like the normal random enemies are worse/cheaper than the bosses are.  I'm not terribly far into the game, but I agree.  It's uneven in that respect.

I'm also not fond of the fact that you can miss augments, but they are optional anyway.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 02, 2008, 11:42:47 AM
TVC, how far have you gotten?

And on your point about the battle camera, they change it up during some key story fights and boss battles.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: GilloD on August 02, 2008, 12:02:09 PM
TVC, how far have you gotten?

And on your point about the battle camera, they change it up during some key story fights and boss battles.


The camera angles during cinemas are great, really interesting. But the battle cam is a snoozer unles syou're fighting a boss.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TVC15 on August 02, 2008, 04:41:27 PM
TVC, how far have you gotten?

And on your point about the battle camera, they change it up during some key story fights and boss battles.

Not too far--just finished Chingchong land and got Palom and Porom.  I quit there for the night because that part is a bit of a slog, even in the original game. 
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 02, 2008, 09:39:28 PM
Yeah, wait till you get back to Baron, it ramps up there.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on August 03, 2008, 11:00:30 AM
Finally started it last night. Just got to the part where you leave Baron.

Are there that many cut scenes throughout the game? I don't remember FFIII having this many so early on.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 03, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
Well, FFIV was the mark in the series where it started getting a bit more story-oriented.  Especially with this remake, which tries to make it as cinematic as possible.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: abrader on August 03, 2008, 12:46:05 PM
I must have played thru ffiv too many times. I just can't get into this......


Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 03, 2008, 01:44:03 PM
Everytime you use an ellipses I think you're about to cry
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 03, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
Just beat Cagnazzo

People thought he was hard?  Man, I actually though Baigan was harder.  He could never get Tsunami off, I raped him with Blizzaga and Blizzara.  And Slow.

Easy.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on August 09, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
Y'all thoroughly skeered me enough so I'm grinding it out more than I usually do in RPGs. I'm only to the part where Anna dies and Cecil is already a level 25. Haven't had any problems yet.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 09, 2008, 08:30:50 PM
That's probably not such a good idea.  Cecil changes classes soon after that and reverts to level 1.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: siamesedreamer on August 09, 2008, 10:51:11 PM
 :lol

Shit...about about to take the pearl back to the chick. He's a 27 now.
Title: Re: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 10, 2008, 01:09:37 AM
And he'll probably be over 30 by the time he changes classes.  :lol

Oh well, at least you're other characters will be high.