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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:22:22 PM

Title: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:22:22 PM

+ superior distribution model
+ more attractive pricing model
+ console dev's on board
+ DESTROYS the PSP as a multi-function device - better browser, better music player, etc..
+ traditional console publishers on board..

RPG's - Vay (Sega CD port) $4.99
(http://www.maclife.com/files/u1928/vay.png)

Arcade - Super Monkey Ball (SEGA) - $9.99
(http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/international/games/news/images/190748-1-1.jpg)

Puzzle - Aqua Forrest (Hudson) $7.99
[youtube=425,350]8st_ZianrNU[/youtube]

Not a bad start for the first few weeks.

We also already have;

- DeBlob - THQ

- Bomberman Touch - Hudson

- Tetris - EA

and over 200 other games....

What do you think will become of this?

I think Iphone can move more software than DS/PSP....you can quickly download/install from itunes store or from the app store built into the ipod touch/iphone..

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 23, 2008, 08:23:22 PM

- shitty controls
- shitty development apis
- did i mention the unusably shitty control configurations?

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Crushed on July 23, 2008, 08:23:33 PM

wow tetris and sega cd ports

fantastic

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:25:13 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 08:23:22 PM

- shitty controls
- shitty development apis
- did i mention the unusably shitty control configurations?

Still better than Wii

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 23, 2008, 08:25:33 PM

that's like saying herpes is better than aids

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: The Sceneman on July 23, 2008, 08:25:48 PM

I wouldnt say 'demolish' PSP and DS as they already have sweet sweet game librarys, but yeah looks promising. Also inevitable massive userbase (which may or may not 'game' mind), but the all in one phone, media, browser, game machine is attractive to say the least. I cart around a cellphone DS and ipod wherever I go, one device would be preferable

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:29:43 PM

Also someone could easily make a slim control pad/button shell to clip on and IO using the ipod interface port on the bottom.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:30:05 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 08:25:33 PM

that's like saying herpes is better than aids

Well it is ;)

Lets see what the library looks like in 6 months.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 23, 2008, 08:33:36 PM

no, let's wait for two years -- nobody will make a good psp-grade game in six months with the current iphone/touch sdk, and for its level of hardware complexity

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 08:37:37 PM

Its hard for my PSP to get any play time...

I love it - but its too big, I never carry it on me...and when im at home I just play the consoles or PC....

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Cormacaroni on July 23, 2008, 08:52:03 PM

Stunned that Tetris and Bomberman are available on a phone.  This changes everything. :rolleyes

You do have a solid point about the superior distribution model though. They should certainly sell a lot of Popcap-level stuff via iTunes. I'd be very (pleasantly) surprised to see PS2-level games of any substance on this thing though...they'd be even more hamstrung by the controls than the PSP is.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: JustinP on July 23, 2008, 09:17:28 PM

...maybe if they released some sort of attachment that had buttons

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:24:46 PM

Quote from: JustinP on July 23, 2008, 09:17:28 PM

...maybe if they released some sort of attachment that had buttons

It already has 2 buttons and more tilt than the Wii.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 09:26:07 PM

uh... right

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 23, 2008, 09:27:09 PM

:bow Abrader:perennial winner of EB's worst taste award :bow2

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: JustinP on July 23, 2008, 09:27:46 PM

Quote from: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:24:46 PM

Quote from: JustinP on July 23, 2008, 09:17:28 PM

...maybe if they released some sort of attachment that had buttons

It already has 2 buttons and more tilt than the Wii.

and that isn't enough. 

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:31:03 PM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 23, 2008, 09:27:09 PM

:bow Abrader:perennial winner of EB's worst taste award :bow2

Yes - my tastes are not carrying a portable gaming console around in my pocket thats the size of a womans makeup bag...

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 23, 2008, 09:45:41 PM

You should write for The Onion, abrader.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 23, 2008, 09:46:43 PM

:rofl

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:48:35 PM

How did you guys know that was my site?

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: APF on July 23, 2008, 09:48:55 PM

I love it, but crappy controls + no battery life.

Works for some games (I just bought Bejeweled for like the hundredth time) but not all, and I think it has a potential of further opening-up casual / mainstream gaming, rather than cutting away from Nintendo's sales (PSP has software sales?), since the games are at different price points.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:52:58 PM

I have heard the new 3G iphone has bad battery life unless you disable the 3G options...

I personally use the gen 1 iphone and have no issues with the battery...

I also dont have a problem with the controls. the tilt is more accurate than the wii or the sixaxis...mind you I havent enen tried games that would use the buttons....but for most games where tilt has several degrees of movement, and a touch screen and at least 1 primary button - I think talented developers can do great things....

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Rman on July 23, 2008, 10:18:53 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 08:25:33 PM

that's like saying herpes is better than aids

:rofl

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 23, 2008, 10:26:31 PM

Quote from: abrader on July 23, 2008, 09:52:58 PM

I have heard the new 3G iphone has bad battery life unless you disable the 3G options...

I personally use the gen 1 iphone and have no issues with the battery...

I also dont have a problem with the controls. the tilt is more accurate than the wii or the sixaxis...mind you I havent enen tried games that would use the buttons....but for most games where tilt has several degrees of movement, and a touch screen and at least 1 primary button - I think talented developers can do great things....

it isn't even remotely more accurate. monkey ball's tilt controls are BAD by the standards of the wii or the sixaxis. have those hairspray fumes gone to your head again?

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Akala on July 23, 2008, 10:35:01 PM

Vay on it is pretty cool though. Maybe all those old WD SCD games are on their way. Cosmic Fantasy 2 OMG.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 23, 2008, 10:38:26 PM

vay wasn't a very good rpg, even by the asscrack standards of its day. and those cheapo ff 1/2 remakes for the psp look loads better!

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 10:46:19 PM

You can run Game Boy Advance ROMs on iPOD Touch/Phone for free... and you're bringing up Vay

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Costanza on July 23, 2008, 11:24:19 PM

Super Monkey Ball is so awful. did they even fucking test the game?

I want my money back :(

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Akala on July 23, 2008, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 10:38:26 PM

vay wasn't a very good rpg, even by the asscrack standards of its day. and those cheapo ff 1/2 remakes for the psp look loads better!

It would still be cool to have Vay in your pocket!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Y's would be better tho

[close]

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: demi on July 23, 2008, 11:50:06 PM

Quote from: Costanza on July 23, 2008, 11:24:19 PM

Super Monkey Ball is so awful. did they even fucking test the game?

I want my money back :(

They know the iPod community is dumb as bricks and will buy anything

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: tiesto on July 24, 2008, 09:19:54 AM

Quote from: Akala on July 23, 2008, 11:48:00 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 10:38:26 PM

vay wasn't a very good rpg, even by the asscrack standards of its day. and those cheapo ff 1/2 remakes for the psp look loads better!

It would still be cool to have Vay in your pocket!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Y's would be better tho

[close]

I think they do have Ys for cellphones... would probably control fairly decently, since it's mostly d-pad control. I wanna play Vay on the iPhone though, haha.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 24, 2008, 09:54:51 AM

DeBlob came out on iPod before Wii? :lol

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Crushed on July 24, 2008, 09:17:30 PM

iPhone already fucked, Q Entertainment to develop Peggle DS.
 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6195007.html?part=rss&tag=gs_all_games&subj=6195007)
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/205/Peggle_DS579_screen.jpg)

:bow

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 24, 2008, 09:33:40 PM

Wait, what?

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: bork on July 24, 2008, 10:12:46 PM

Oh, yuck.  Look, I love the internet browser and the media functions on my iPod Touch, but gaming and iPod Touch/Phone do not go together.  Games that rely completely on tilting might be okay, but most games don't work this way.  Even stuff like SCUMM VM is difficult to use with the Touch.  The screen is too small for your finger to accurately point at the right area. 

Hey, Cell phones in Japan "demolish" DS and PSP from a content standpoint too.  And they have a more diverse line-up and even a d-pad/buttons to use-- and they still play like shit!

Enjoy shitty gaming, I'm staying out of it.

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: Jabberwocky on July 24, 2008, 10:15:24 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 23, 2008, 08:23:22 PM

- shitty controls
- shitty development apis
- did i mention the unusably shitty control configurations?

- shitty thread

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: APF on July 24, 2008, 11:08:54 PM

Peggle  :hyper

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: bork on July 24, 2008, 11:31:48 PM

Also isn't "Real Game Talk" together with "iPod Touch" an oxymoron?

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: pilonv1 on July 25, 2008, 12:40:12 AM

Quote from: lyte edge on July 24, 2008, 11:31:48 PM

Also isn't "Real Game Talk" together with "iPod Touch" an oxymoron?

ipod touch & nintendo require their own forum. nothing to do with gaming

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: abrader on July 25, 2008, 01:12:39 AM

why dont you guys go play some crysis

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: pilonv1 on July 25, 2008, 01:49:00 AM

too busy playing titan quest and peggle

Title: Re: REAL GAME talk - ipod touch set to demolish DS/PSP from a content standpoint
Post by: cool breeze on July 25, 2008, 02:15:13 AM

iPod Touch/iPhone gaming is simply the next frontier for shitty mobile based games.  Nothing that will keep your interest past a minute or two at a time and most of the games are overpriced for the garbage you are getting.

Oh, and the regular iPod is a better gaming platform than this.