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Title: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 28, 2008, 03:59:44 PM
http://blog.livedoor.jp/jin115/archives/51340709.html (http://blog.livedoor.jp/jin115/archives/51340709.html)

That was fast.  Lower price means more sales! Onward to millions of copies sold! YEAR OF PS3!

(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/jin115/imgs/0/8/083b027c.jpg)
(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/jin115/imgs/8/7/87c37d82.jpg)

It's next to the 360 HD-DVD drive :(
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: cool breeze on July 28, 2008, 04:03:27 PM
GG No Re, video games in Japan.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
Year of PS3 discontinued
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: demi on July 28, 2008, 04:08:36 PM
next to the PS3 VF5 too, hua
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Crushed on July 28, 2008, 04:09:46 PM
is there a "BOMBA" thread on gaf yet
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: demi on July 28, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
^ why's that gotta be the first thing out of your mouth... go make an alt account already
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 28, 2008, 05:53:51 PM
Id trade mine in if I didnt buy the first 3 game collection too. It is spared by my OCD
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 05:56:24 PM
I kinda want to sell my copy despite never finishing it...I really don't think I'm ever going to finish it. :/
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 28, 2008, 06:04:33 PM
I still want to play it so bad. I always was a MGS fanboy (didn't beat the acids or PO those...those games suxed) but I loved 1 + 3 and kinda liked 2. But I don't have the money for a PS Triple :( :(
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 28, 2008, 06:20:06 PM
I havent even put mine in the ps3 yet lol
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 28, 2008, 06:38:05 PM
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I kinda want to sell my copy despite never finishing it...I really don't think I'm ever going to finish it.

as long as you've finished the fantastic act 1 and 2, you've seen the best of the game - the other three acts are a slow painful suicide, culminating with Kojima digitally wiping his ass on the disk.

Aren't you a big MGS fan though? I'd have thought that would motivate you through the game? IS it just a matter of finding the time, or are you not liking something about the game?


He's not liking the game.  Not something about it; the whole experience.

And FWIW, Act 4 was my favorite part of the whole game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Starting out from the playable MGS1 flashback and culminating in piloting the partially destroyed Metal Gear Rex , and then being able to totally work Metal Gear Ray in it (which nicely dovetails with my opinion that 1 was great and 2 was vastly inferior)?  Fucking Mega Epic.
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Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
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I kinda want to sell my copy despite never finishing it...I really don't think I'm ever going to finish it.

as long as you've finished the fantastic act 1 and 2, you've seen the best of the game - the other three acts are a slow painful suicide, culminating with Kojima digitally wiping his ass on the disk.

Aren't you a big MGS fan though? I'd have thought that would motivate you through the game? IS it just a matter of finding the time, or are you not liking something about the game?

Yeah, I finished Acts 1 and 2. And I was a huge MGS fan - especially 3. I mean, I was the Sorrow for Halloween one year, ffs.

The pacing is just what killed me. I could find the time to finish the game, I suppose, but I generally only have 2-3 hours of free time by the time I get home from work. I don't want to spend 45 minutes watching some interminable Otacon airplane briefing.

That, and the self-referential fanboy nonsense just got to me after a while. I liked MGS3 because it was a cool and new twist for the series - setting it in the 1960s kept the animu psychosis somewhat grounded in reality, and I liked all the crazy gadgets. None of which were made of nanomachines. But the narrative is like 20 hours of that annoying dorky friend who goes "hey, do you remember when blah blah blah? wasn't that awesome?" and never actually brings up anything new. It's like those people who quote The Simpsons all the time in lieu of actual conversation.

I didn't like the "no place to hide" gameplay. Previous Metal Gears were a series of short, punchy stealth scenarios that were almost puzzle-game like in their interactions; a series of guard patterns and obstacles to overcome, and Snake's items and weapons to make it happen. MGS4 has like 80 guns for some reason, and infinitely respawning guards. In a stealth game.

I also hated all the new characters that were introduced, and like ... a soldier who poops his pants? A monkey in a diaper? What's with the scatological obsession, Kojima? I couldn't stand the tonal schitzophrenia. I couldn't take anything in the game universe even close to seriously. It was like the fever dream of the last few hours of MGS2 never ended.

The sheer amount of OCD detail also depressed me, instead of impressing me. All I could think of was poor Yosuke working 85 hour weeks for $19k a year, eating instant ramen in Konami's Mori Tower HQ while commuting 90 minutes back and forth to Tachikawa on the rare night he's not sleeping under his desk. The game just encompassed everything wrong with modern game development to me, Japanese game development in particular. It was a very zeitgeisty moment. I really think that MGS4 is the Shenmue of this generation, and probably the death knell of the "traditional" big budget single-player experience.

When Act 4 was accidentally spoiled for me, instead of going "what! really! FUCK YEAH!!" I kind of was aghast and was like "what? really? fuck, yeah?" It was the moment when the series actually did disappear up its own asshole.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've already been to Shadow Moses about 8 times, between replaying the original and Twin Snakes. Once more isn't going to do anything special for me.
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Anyways...that's my thoughts.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Crushed on July 28, 2008, 07:08:08 PM
I also hated all the new characters that were introduced, and like ... a soldier who poops his pants?
That's Johnny Sasaki, the guy who you watched pooping from the airvents in MGS1 and who got beat up and stripped nekkid by Meryl.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: cool breeze on July 28, 2008, 07:09:08 PM
He was also in MGS2
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 07:10:26 PM
I also hated all the new characters that were introduced, and like ... a soldier who poops his pants?
That's Johnny Sasaki, the guy who you watched pooping from the airvents in MGS1 and who got beat up and stripped nekkid by Meryl.

Yeah, I wasn't including him as a "new" character, just sort of segueing from not liking the new characters to the terrible characterization overall. There was certainly an increased focus on his character - he went from two-bit comic relief to front-and-center. MGS1, 2, and 3 also didn't have brown poop stains on his character model. :P
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Crushed on July 28, 2008, 07:10:36 PM
He was also in MGS2

Yeah, he had diarrhea then too, and he tried to hold up Emma.

I also hated all the new characters that were introduced, and like ... a soldier who poops his pants?
That's Johnny Sasaki, the guy who you watched pooping from the airvents in MGS1 and who got beat up and stripped nekkid by Meryl.

Yeah, I wasn't including him as a "new" character, just sort of segueing from not liking the new characters to the terrible characterization overall. There was certainly an increased focus on his character - he went from two-bit comic relief to front-and-center. MGS1, 2, and 3 also didn't have brown poop stains on his character model. :P

That's because it was dad (granddad?)  in MGS3, who probably didn't have IBS.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 28, 2008, 07:10:52 PM
I mean, I was the Sorrow for Halloween one year, ffs.

oh, dude
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 07:11:16 PM
I mean, I was the Sorrow for Halloween one year, ffs.

oh, dude

shut up the costume was awesome
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 28, 2008, 07:11:36 PM
did you wear it to comicon
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 07:13:19 PM
did you wear it to comicon

it doesn't fit anymore, I've gained like 50 pounds since then eating ice cream because I was so depressed by MGS4 sucking
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: cool breeze on July 28, 2008, 07:13:58 PM
Do you really hate Drebin? How can you hate Drebin that much? He's Drebin.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Crushed on July 28, 2008, 07:16:20 PM
Do you really hate Drebin? How can you hate Drebin that much? He's Drebin.

"hello i am badass smooth-talking black man/magical negro"
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 28, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
I really want to read your guys spoiler post but im so scared incase I decide to play it one day.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 28, 2008, 07:21:36 PM
did you wear it to comicon

it doesn't fit anymore, I've gained like 50 pounds since then eating ice cream because I was so depressed by MGS4 sucking

speaking of costume nerdery, i was heath ledger joker before heath ledger

the year before the first batman came out i dressed as the joker by raiding the high school drama department's wardrobe/makeup

wore this long orange courderoy old-timey overcoat over a skull patterned shirt and purple tie

they had this white "mummy" makeup which cracked and flaked when it dried, so i used that, dark circles around eyes, smeared lipstick, etc.

all my comic geek friends told me it was fucking awesome, everyone else kept asking me what was wrong with my joker makeup and "how come you don't look like the guy from the teevee show"  :-\



anyway, wake me up when msg4 hits $20, should be a short nap
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Tabasco on July 28, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/894/894457p1.html?RSSwhen2008-07-28_152600&RSSid=894457

July 28, 2008 - Electronic Arts today confirmed that development of the PlayStation 3 version of Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 has been put on hold. While some reports are stating that the game has been outright canceled for the system, an EA rep has informed us that the game has been put on hold. It's possible that the team may return to the project at a later date and time, but for now, it is focused on completing the game for PC and Xbox 360 to meet its holiday launch.

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Probably don't want to release PS3 version and have it embarrass PC owners who spent $4k on their rigs . . .
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 28, 2008, 07:36:01 PM
that page gave me a Too Human flash ad that quotes Nietsche ;___;

a third translation, too ("Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.")
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: JustinP on July 28, 2008, 09:40:11 PM
interesting.

Act 4 was where i felt the story completely imploded , and the bits you mentioned felt clunky and , IMO, second grade. I can see why it appealed to fans to see those events happen though, but basically the only parts i enjoyed was anything where the Geckos were involved.

you're basically the most boring gamer ever.  what's so great about the geckos?  they were one of the least interactive enemies in the game. 
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Shuri on July 28, 2008, 09:55:11 PM
I was hyped for mgs4. I bought the game, finished it in a week then sold it on ebay right away. It's not worth playing twice
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 28, 2008, 10:54:27 PM
Good Jon everyone
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: JustinP on July 29, 2008, 12:21:26 AM
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you're basically the most boring gamer ever.  what's so great about the geckos?  they were one of the least interactive enemies in the game. 


 ::) oh i wish i was exciting like you. If you get bored, you just PRETEND you played something. I stopped doing that when i was 6. time to grow up passed 20 years ago - come, catch up...

there were several situations where the geckos actually introduced some elements of game play that weren't shite.
The lock down with the MK2 , the blocking of the exit, the split screen gecko onslaught, their appearance as a "oh shit" element on the deck of the ship etc all spring to mind.



they were a nice set piece but all you did was shoot them or run away.  and calling the rest 'shite' is just your typical fanboy shit-shoot spewings. 
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: drohne on July 29, 2008, 12:38:00 AM
I mean, I was the Sorrow for Halloween one year, ffs

i'm guessing you're not a big basketball fan, but there's an excellent nba blog called free darko, on which the posts are interlarded with irrelevant or obscurely relevant images. anyway, they posted this one picture of a guy dressed up as the sorrow, and i was like 'is that...'

and i guess it was!

carry on
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: JustinP on July 29, 2008, 02:00:46 AM
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and calling the rest 'shite' is just your typical fanboy shit-shoot spewings

the majority was shite though. Fact.
what ... you think because mindless sony fans think it is good that actuallly -makes- it good?! Bwahaahhahahaaaaaa

smh @ bronze medalists.

"If i look at it in a certain light, it almost looks like gold!!!"

Japanese returning MGS in droves coupled with further drops in PS3 sales and a strange rise in X360 sales.
The light - it shines in their eyes and hearts. X360 flag will fly over Japan this winter.

it's like i stumbled into gamefaqs :lol
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 29, 2008, 02:16:12 AM
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and calling the rest 'shite' is just your typical fanboy shit-shoot spewings

the majority was shite though. Fact.
what ... you think because mindless sony fans think it is good that actuallly -makes- it good?! Bwahaahhahahaaaaaa

smh @ bronze medalists.

"If i look at it in a certain light, it almost looks like gold!!!"

Japanese returning MGS in droves coupled with further drops in PS3 sales and a strange rise in X360 sales.
The light - it shines in their eyes and hearts. X360 flag will fly over Japan this winter.

it's like i stumbled into gamefaqs :lol

Absolutely.  Clearly someone has not seen hardware sales in JP in a long time.

or they are just trolling
that's more likely now that i think about it
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 29, 2008, 02:18:58 AM
I mean, I was the Sorrow for Halloween one year, ffs

i'm guessing you're not a big basketball fan, but there's an excellent nba blog called free darko, on which the posts are interlarded with irrelevant or obscurely relevant images. anyway, they posted this one picture of a guy dressed up as the sorrow, and i was like 'is that...'

and i guess it was!

carry on

found and saved!
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: JustinP on July 29, 2008, 03:57:43 AM
apr-jun quarter results in from sony

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/08q1_sony.pdf

PS3 hardware sells more than double compared to last year.  ps3 software sales up almost 500%. 

gaming division has profit of 51m, despite ps2 hardware and software seeing decreases. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
copy/paste from list:
-"won't last. sony doomed"
-"lol mgs4 sucked but it's also the only reason 360 is selling less than ps3 in 2008"
-"home"
-"year of ps3!  jk, won't last. sony doomed"
-"mgs4 is shite.  360 will outsell ps3 in japan.  just wait."
-"home"
-"qore"
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Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Tieno on July 29, 2008, 04:03:54 AM
home
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Vizzys on July 29, 2008, 04:06:14 AM
qore
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: pilonv1 on July 29, 2008, 04:15:22 AM
emoh
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Cormacaroni on July 29, 2008, 04:38:36 AM
Will someone just tell me if should buy Sony stock, Nintendo stock or Microsoft stock????
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: dark1x on July 29, 2008, 08:13:51 AM
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Japanese returning MGS in droves coupled with further drops in PS3 sales and a strange rise in X360 sales.
Why is this Sony VS MS bullshit still going on?  It's the Wii that's the problem.  The PS3 is already down for the count, it needs no further kicking.  How the fuck can you complain about something like MGS4 when you have the Wii stomping everything into the ground with truly shit software?  You're laughing at MGS4 while Sonic and Mario at the Olympics sells over 10 million copies (across DS and Wii).

I think 360 and PS3 fans need to realize that the two consoles much co-exist if we want to continue playing HD games.  Companies need those two platforms (with the PC also along for the ride) in order to turn a profit on their games.

Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: demi on July 29, 2008, 10:07:18 AM
home
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 10:21:31 AM
I have a question about Qore and Home...

Once Home is launched will I need to walk down to the virtual Qore store to buy my episodes?

Or will Qore deliver?


Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 10:21:49 AM
Pay per Qore?

Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Bocsius on July 29, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
Fear the Wii.

Don't fear the Wii.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: patrickula on July 29, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
Imagine if in home you could walk to the SONY video store and buy the latest episode of Qore right off of a virtual rack with all the episodes in stock!
Then when you walk back to YOUR apartment to watch it on your BRAVIA True HD flat panel, you find a subscription card included with Qore!  You get to fill out the subscription card line by line, and it looks just like a real magazine subscription card, but for videos!   Then you take the card and walk it to your home mailbox.  Don't forget the stamp!
Then, when you're subscribed, your Qore videos come in through the mail slot in YOUR apartment as soon as each episode comes out.  If you wait outside your apartment, you might even see the show delivered by Veronica Belmont herself :omg

This is the potential of home  8)
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 29, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
MGS4 is shite.  360 will outsell ps3 in japan.  Just wait.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: MCD on July 29, 2008, 02:23:09 PM
This is waiting.
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: disgruntled_jojo on July 29, 2008, 06:43:14 PM
MGS4 is shite.  360 will outsell ps3 in japan.  Just wait.

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 06:45:17 PM
I honestly loved what I played if this - but I havent been compelled to stick with it past chapter one so far...

Im thinking im just burnt on the series :(

Title: Re: Year of PS3! First MGS4 remaindering sighting (sofmap)
Post by: patrickula on July 29, 2008, 08:02:37 PM
:omg
Sony's tireless crusade to teach today's ADD gamers the virtue of patience knows no bounds 8)