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Title: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 09:25:28 AM
I'm not asking for a suit and tie, but showing up in baggy jeans and a t-shirt? This happened thrice. Just a polo would have been nice.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Eric P on July 29, 2008, 09:26:58 AM
I'm not asking for a suit and tie, but showing up in baggy jeans and a t-shirt? This happened thrice. Just a polo would have been nice.

You're paying them minimum wage. Don't expect much professionalism.


Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 09:28:53 AM
A. I'm actually paying them above minimum wage
B. One of the interviews was for a keyholder position
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 09:31:07 AM
C. The economy is so bad that I'm getting canidates w/ degrees. So a polo shirt is a must.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Eric P on July 29, 2008, 09:33:57 AM
in that case you should spit on them and call their mothers whores who haven't taught their kids shit

then as they run crying from your store chase after them screaming "low class shits, you'll never work at Gamestop again!  do you hear me?  I'm Charles Foster Willco!"
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 09:35:43 AM
GAMESTOP: Serious Business!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 09:37:45 AM
Alas, I do not interview in my store but at Starbucks, and gentlemen do create such a scene at that fine establishment!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 09:38:31 AM
really tho - id be happy if the gamestops in my area could hire people that didn't try to take over the store with their own fanboy agenda / propaganda.

Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 09:41:15 AM
GAMESTOP: Serious Business!

This is the problem with youth today. It IS a business and I take hiring seriously so you guys don't get hassled by poor customer service. That's why I'm going to hire the college grads desperate for cash and not dumb kids too stupid to not wear a polo!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 29, 2008, 09:41:45 AM
I've applied at a Gamestop twice in the last 9 months and I can't even get an interview, despite the fact that I have 3 college degrees. Save me Willco
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: GilloD on July 29, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
BUT DUDE ITS GAMESTOP IM GONNA GET A JOB WHERE I CAN PLAY FINAL FANTASY AWESOME
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Eric P on July 29, 2008, 09:52:04 AM
Alas, I do not interview in my store but at Starbucks, and gentlemen do create such a scene at that fine establishment!

then throw your latte at them then have the starbucks store put Dj Donna Summer's Get The Fuck out on full blast
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: demi on July 29, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
I came in to an interview at Toys R Us with some nice pants and a shirt and she brought it up like "why would you come in like that?"

I wasn't hired. Then I got my job working at home for at least 3x what I would have made. Such is life.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 10:13:55 AM
I came in to an interview at Toys R Us with some nice pants and a shirt and she brought it up like "why would you come in like that?"

I wasn't hired. Then I got my job working at home for at least 3x what I would have made. Such is life.

So you are saying that its the kids destiny to work or not to work at gamestop - so no matter what they wear, or what Wilco thinks - if it is their destiny to be there Wilco will hire them?

Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: abrader on July 29, 2008, 10:15:01 AM
GAMESTOP: Serious Business!

This is the problem with youth today. It IS a business and I take hiring seriously so you guys don't get hassled by poor customer service. That's why I'm going to hire the college grads desperate for cash and not dumb kids too stupid to not wear a polo!

Sounds like a better fit.

I always think gamestores will do better hiring people who can do the job and not game fans....

Game fans at a gamestore are annoying..
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: demi on July 29, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
willco is a jew, so of course he will spew crap like "business! business!" and wear a suit and tie
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: GilloD on July 29, 2008, 10:51:03 AM
You need people who are at least somewhat knowledgeable about games, so it would be helpful if the employees actually played them. Or, at least, had a period in their life when they did play games. Just so that they'd be capable of giving actual recommendations.

From a business standpoint, you have to balance this kind of helpful enthusiasm with someone who's going to push the product you need to push. If you want to sell Final Fantasy Horse Adventure, you need someone who's going to sell FFHA without going "Lol FF sux, but Persona insteads"
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Brehvolution on July 29, 2008, 10:59:30 AM
I'd work for you but I live to far away. It could only be nights and weekends as I have a day job. :-\
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 29, 2008, 11:13:40 AM
clearly you know nothing of game retail
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:21:32 AM
I'm not asking for a suit and tie, but showing up in baggy jeans and a t-shirt? This happened thrice. Just a polo would have been nice.

You're paying them minimum wage. Don't expect much professionalism.



As someone who worked retail for six years, I couldnt agree with this more. There should be limits to insane expectations.

At the very least direct them to a location where they can get hired despite any superficial reasons.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 29, 2008, 11:22:48 AM
clearly you know nothing of game retail

this is a running theme with Shinobi I guess

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

I guess selling games is more serious business than making them!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:23:25 AM
I think I woulda got laughed at if I wore a suit and tie to my last interview lol

but enough with the lolz, Willco, if anyone is looking for a good Roguelike, its all about Izuna 2. Spread the word. Let everyone know how to bring those sons of bitches down.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Eric P on July 29, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
clearly you know nothing of game retail

this is a running theme with Shinobi I guess

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

I guess selling games is more serious business than making them!

get me a job interview

i'll roll up in a bathrobe and slippers
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 29, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
At my last interview I wore a dress shirt with tie, dress pants and dress shoes. Fuckers never even called me back! :(
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:31:25 AM
I dont even own a suit and tie, never have lol
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 29, 2008, 11:38:09 AM
My last interview I wore apple bottom jeans and boats with the fur.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:44:24 AM
BOATS
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: bud on July 29, 2008, 11:48:06 AM
maf, what did you wear at your job interview then? i thought you worked at ms. isn't a suit, like, mandatory for an interview at ms.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:51:17 AM
No its business casual. A nice buttoned down shirt, and under shirt and jeans were what I wore. I think what you 'need to wear' depends on what kind of position youre interviewing for. At the executive level it MAY be different, but even then I doubt it.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: GilloD on July 29, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
It would be far better not to stock more than one or two of all the shit games (except the ones you know are going to sell, like Army of Two). That way the employees are never stuck trying to push a piece of crap title on an unsuspecting customer. You'll lose the customer's trust if you give him too many bad recommendations.

You have never worked at a business in your life.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 11:58:53 AM
I remember when I worked at EB during their 'vendor of the month' bullshit. I cried when Acclaim was VoM
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 29, 2008, 12:01:42 PM
I used to own an Acclaim fansites, which led me to do a few reviews for Ziff Davis back in the day.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 12:03:17 PM
Acclaim had the worst games back then, and I was supposed to push them :( :(
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Fragamemnon on July 29, 2008, 12:05:24 PM

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

oh come now a tucked in polo with a good pair of jeans is just right for a game industry/programming interview. If that's their "high end" in terms of dressing up, then they'll be running around in shorts, threadless tees, and flip flops like the rest of you once hired.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Eric P on July 29, 2008, 12:09:57 PM
Sytnh works in the gaming industry?

he's tommy tellarico
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 12:17:25 PM

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

oh come now a tucked in polo with a good pair of jeans is just right for a game industry/programming interview. If that's their "high end" in terms of dressing up, then they'll be running around in shorts, threadless tees, and flip flops like the rest of you once hired.

No one looks good in a polo. Better to just go for a button downed shirt, nice undershirt. tuck it in, roll up the sleeves, leave the very top button undone. Its like youre running for president.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: DJ_Tet on July 29, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
Sytnh works in the gaming industry?

he's tommy tellarico


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Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 12:25:30 PM
Just use petty cash to buy your employees work slacks and ask them to wear them or something. Dont expect people who make less than you to dress like the president.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 29, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
This is at Gamestop correct? Do you prefer to hire people with experience, and also does education/degrees play a part in the decision?
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: TVC15 on July 29, 2008, 12:41:24 PM

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

oh come now a tucked in polo with a good pair of jeans is just right for a game industry/programming interview. If that's their "high end" in terms of dressing up, then they'll be running around in shorts, threadless tees, and flip flops like the rest of you once hired.

I bet the interviewees at the eastern bloc PC games companies that we oh so love just wear the same potato sack they've been wearing since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 29, 2008, 12:42:40 PM
I never wear an undershirt
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: border on July 29, 2008, 12:45:15 PM
I was watching one of those Too Human production diaries the other day, and the guy demoing the game was wearing a t-shirt and shorts.  It was kind of embarrassing.  This video is what's supposed to sell me on your game, and you're making me look at a guy in his late 30's wearing shorts?
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Bocsius on July 29, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
I was watching one of those Too Human production diaries the other day, and the guy demoing the game was wearing a t-shirt and shorts.  It was kind of embarrassing.  This video is what's supposed to sell me on your game, and you're making me look at a guy in his late 30's wearing shorts?


Were you looking up his shorts? Otherwise, I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 12:50:52 PM
I have to wear an undershirt or I get that 70s chest hair thing goin on :(
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 29, 2008, 12:59:03 PM

also, if you show up in a suit and tie - or even a polo - to interview with my company, then we all laugh about you afterwards and roll our eyes at how little you know about the game industry

oh come now a tucked in polo with a good pair of jeans is just right for a game industry/programming interview. If that's their "high end" in terms of dressing up, then they'll be running around in shorts, threadless tees, and flip flops like the rest of you once hired.

No one looks good in a polo. Better to just go for a button downed shirt, nice undershirt. tuck it in, roll up the sleeves, leave the very top button undone. Its like youre running for president.

this - a button-down shirt or collared shirt is fine. a polo just looks silly, like you're trying too hard to impress your mates at the country club
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 29, 2008, 01:21:56 PM
BOATS

 :lol
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: tiesto on July 29, 2008, 02:56:53 PM
Acclaim had the worst games back then, and I was supposed to push them :( :(

In middle school, my friends all dreamed about working as game testers for Acclaim (their office was located fairly close to us)...  :lol
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 29, 2008, 03:14:04 PM
Sytnh works in the gaming industry?
he's tommy tellarico

Judgment Day on TechTV was awesome
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 04:39:11 PM
http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=1569&SiteId=cbmsnhp41569&sc_extcmp=IV_1569_home1&GT1=23000&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=86a8cf04907e4b5c943db35f60fd9be0-270664539-RD-4

--they forgot the part about 'im wearing a suit'!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2008, 04:45:01 PM
i always dress nice and like never get hired
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 29, 2008, 04:50:34 PM
you're black
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2008, 05:33:37 PM
you're black

it's true
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: laesperanzapaz on July 29, 2008, 05:38:49 PM
Do you prefer to hire people with experience
Indeed. Virgins need not apply
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: BobbyRobby on July 29, 2008, 05:50:57 PM
wilco, question. 

i used to be a keyholder at gamestop, but the location i worked at shut down after the eb merger.  i want to work at gamestop again part time, but i don't know what number to put as a reference.  what should i do?
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 29, 2008, 06:15:19 PM
Just put me down for your reference. PM me the details.

And when I ask for a polo, I really am just asking for ANYTHING with a collar. Some industry work environments might be casual because they're creative but I am in the business of sales. Dress code for GameStop is dress pants and khakis, and collared shirt - that's what I expect for interviews. Its standard in retail.

Also, degrees matter less to me than experience, personality and product knowledge. Product knowledge is a plus and not a requirement. Its easier to teach a sales-oriented person to be excited about games than someone obsessed about games how to sell. They are also more objective and tend to offer better customer service results because they want to close the sale - not peddle fanboyism.

Plus, we have so many resources available to employees to educate them on games (including free rentals), that shouldn't be an issue.

I will spread the word on Izuna.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Akala on July 29, 2008, 06:55:26 PM
You people's dress code makes me jealous.  :-\

I rock a polo daily, but almost never tuck it in. At least I get to wear comfy doc martens safety boots.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 29, 2008, 07:06:06 PM
Just another example of why poor people suck.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 29, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
Izuna 2 is awesome, i'll forgive the suit zealotry!
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 29, 2008, 08:36:56 PM
If they don't stock crappy games like Catz, what will Drinky buy?
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Candyflip on July 29, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
I was watching one of those Too Human production diaries the other day, and the guy demoing the game was wearing a t-shirt and shorts.  It was kind of embarrassing.  This video is what's supposed to sell me on your game, and you're making me look at a guy in his late 30's wearing shorts?
The guy demoing the game was wearing a t-shirt and shorts. This video is what's supposed to sell me on your game, and you're making me look at a guy in his late 30's wearing shorts?
The guy demoing the game was wearing a t-shirt and shorts. This video is what's supposed to sell me on your game
The guy demoing the game

Which matters more? Besides, he's not making a presentation to the board of directors of a multi-million dollar company. If anything him dressing like your average schlub makes him more accessible to his audience of nerds
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 29, 2008, 09:04:23 PM
I wear either a dress shirt and a tie, dress slacks, and dress shoes when interviewing or that plus a jacket (for the more upscale employers)

I always heard and believed that a guy who knows his shit will probably not be walking around in a T-Shirt and baggy pants with a chain on it.  Unless you count those eccentric geniuses who look like they got stuck in a wind tunnel on the way to the interview.  Dressing well means you are probably more likely to give a shit about your job.  Exception is if the dress code is very lax but you won't know that until after you are hired.

Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: laesperanzapaz on July 29, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
wait wait wait

so basically

Shinobi thinks that "shit games = shit sales"?

Dude

have you even been paying attention?  Why the hell do you think Wii is taking off?  Why do you think we're seeing triple and quadruple sequels of shit Petz/ Horsez/ Training games?

Furthermore, have you heard of the phrase "publisher moneyhatting?"  Like, why do you think certain games always get eye-level retial shelf space?

Like, the world would be a better place if quality corresponded postively with sales, but there's this thing called "reality." 
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Cormacaroni on July 29, 2008, 09:53:40 PM
GAMESTOP: Serious Business!

This is the problem with youth today. It IS a business and I take hiring seriously so you guys don't get hassled by poor customer service. That's why I'm going to hire the college grads desperate for cash and not dumb kids too stupid to not wear a polo!

No, you're going to hire the hot ones that  you think you have a chance to nail.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: cloudwalking on July 30, 2008, 10:44:24 AM
maybe i should apply at my local gamestop. the guys who work there seem a little weird though. it's right around the corner from my house, on the other hand. employee discount would be sweet too the way games are priced here in yurop :-\
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 30, 2008, 11:28:34 AM
yup it seems like a great place to work while in school, but i'll probably have to start at Wal Mart considering I have no work experience
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: Reb on July 30, 2008, 11:40:23 AM
maybe i should apply at my local gamestop. the guys who work there seem a little weird though. it's right around the corner from my house, on the other hand. employee discount would be sweet too the way games are priced here in yurop :-\

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the prices the same as ever, only now that the dollar is weaker, you think you should get more of a discount?

60 euro for a game is ridiculous either way.
Title: Re: Kids these days don't know how to interview
Post by: cloudwalking on July 30, 2008, 12:46:20 PM
maybe i should apply at my local gamestop. the guys who work there seem a little weird though. it's right around the corner from my house, on the other hand. employee discount would be sweet too the way games are priced here in yurop :-\

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the prices the same as ever, only now that the dollar is weaker, you think you should get more of a discount?

60 euro for a game is ridiculous either way.

and in switzerland it's even worse, new titles often sell for 110 swiss francs, which is almost 70 euros, which is the equivalent of 105 usd.

i don't "think" i should get any sort of discount. even when the dollar was strong shit was still way more expensive here. believe me, i've got a U.S. bank account, and i've been taking full advantage of that weak dollar when it comes to gaming. i import almost every game i want, and so do most other people who are serious about gaming. i just wish i could walk into a local game store and not have to drop mad cash every time i want to buy something.