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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 05:25:12 PM

Title: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 05:25:12 PM
It starts tonight. The stupid name is a messed up acronym for all the games present at the show -

Dissidia
Kingdom Hearts
Σ Harmonics
Parasite Eve: The 3rd Birthday (for mobiles only)
FF7: Advent Children Complete
Final Fantasy 13 (all 3 games, present in video form as always)


Basically it's a NomuraxKitasefest. It starts tonight in America time. I'll post the info in this thread.

- Parasite Eve 3rd Birthday for PSP
- FFXIII demo is bundled with Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete (Blu-ray)
- Versus XIII = still PS3 exclusive
- Agito XIII is also coming to the PSP. Nomura love for PSP continues.
- Dissidia bundle for PSP
- Kingdom Hearts DS is this winter, Kingdom Hearts PSP will be somewhere in 09
- Kefka confirmed for Dissidia
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2008, 05:28:56 PM
I cannot wait to see this not only under deliver, but exceed my expectations on how much it will under deliver!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: demi on August 01, 2008, 05:39:55 PM
Nomura is the greatest Japa ever to make games
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 01, 2008, 06:36:06 PM
From 'boredchan'

(http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1886/1217629060919srv6.jpg)
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: TVC15 on August 01, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
So, what are the odds on any of these games not being complete shit?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 01, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
FF7 Remake

spoiler (click to show/hide)
for Wii
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
actually it's a port
[close]
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 01, 2008, 07:07:54 PM
This is the conference that will cement year of the ps3 forever.

it will no doubt be the crowning glory on all that the year of the PS3 has brought us so far
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 07:16:09 PM
lol, rabid FF7 fanboys
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 01, 2008, 07:17:31 PM
From 'boredchan'

(http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1886/1217629060919srv6.jpg)

the fuck is this supposed to be anyway? lemoke 7?

"remake 7"
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Tucah on August 01, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
Apparently, Parasite Eve 3 is going to PSP.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 01, 2008, 09:52:26 PM
edit: beaten.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jansen on August 01, 2008, 09:55:11 PM
pe2 sucked mega balls so why should anyone be excited?

i never understood why so many felt betrayed that when it was announced as a cell phone game.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:01:40 PM
Now all they need to do is announce Agito's move from mobile to DS/PSP.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 01, 2008, 10:02:37 PM
Square just shot themselves in the foot.  Mobile phone fanboys aren't gonna like this.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 01, 2008, 10:05:05 PM
Square just shot themselves in the foot.  Mobile phone fanboys aren't gonna like this.

You see, Japanese peeople have a sense of HONOR  :japancry
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Mupepe on August 01, 2008, 10:05:49 PM
Square just shot themselves in the foot.  Mobile phone fanboys aren't gonna like this.
I don't know if any of you guys know anything about mobile gaming culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are a huge part.  It's not like console gaming where you can become successful by being an asshole.  Square, publicly apologize for and cancel Parasite Eve 3 on the PSP or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jansen on August 01, 2008, 10:11:55 PM
i'd be moderately happy if they announced agito for psp.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2008, 10:18:53 PM
holy fuck
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 01, 2008, 10:22:45 PM
FF13 demo in FF7ACC blu-ray.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:29:12 PM
i'd be moderately happy if they announced agito for psp.

Wish granted.


<SFAGS SUDDENLY HATE FF7/MASS SUICIDE/"TAKE HALO FROM THEM, OR GEARS... OR SOMETHING">


This seems to be a pretty damn good conference for "sfags" so far.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2008, 10:32:29 PM
this is so fucking awesome.

S-E bringin it.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:33:47 PM
it has started already?


It started a while ago. See first post.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 01, 2008, 10:37:16 PM
PSP gets 2 cellphone ports, that fighting game is out in December, the Kingdom hearts game is out next year, and....I think that is it.
PS3 gets a confirmation that Versus XIII is PS3 only and coming out globally...oh, and a demo of XIII that comes with a blu-ray of a shitty movie (that I will probably buy anyway).

Kind of a lame conference so far.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:39:12 PM
wow - people are still supporting the PSP?
Nomura has been and quite clearly still is supporting the PSP. Right now it's got Kingdom Hearts, Dissidia, Agito XIII, and PE3 in the pipeline.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 01, 2008, 10:41:10 PM
i didn't like crisis core jaggy and "lifeless" graphics, dunno why they are bothering with more psp games.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 01, 2008, 10:41:30 PM
Late 2009 for Japan, but I still think 2010.  2010 or 2011 for NA most likely.

i didn't like crisis core jaggy and "lifeless" graphics, dunno why they are bothering with more psp games.

The graphics were good.  It is a shame the actual game was trash.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jansen on August 01, 2008, 10:48:58 PM
hey i'm happy with the psp support.

if pe3 goes back to being like pe1 gameplay wise it'll rawk.

the ffxiii demo is nice. not too happy about having to buy a shit movie for a second time to play it tho.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:51:34 PM
It seems every system is getting XIII love except the market leaders.  :lol
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 01, 2008, 10:56:03 PM
DS already gets a lot of love from Square.  Wii doesn't exactly deserve it and should keep accepting the chocobo games with open arms.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 01, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
So in order to play the FFXIII demo, I'd have to buy the shit movie on blu-ray?

The demo is bundled with the movie and it's not on the same disc... unless you want to buy the demo on eBay, then yes, you have to buy the shitty movie.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Crushed on August 01, 2008, 11:00:08 PM
I have to wonder when the release date for the movie is going to be if they're going to have an FFXIII demo on it.

I mean, don't they have to start actually making the game first?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 01, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
wow - people are still supporting the PSP?

When is Advent Children out?
next march.  that means christmas '09 at the earliest for ffXiii


who could have seen this coming

except for everyone
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: demi on August 01, 2008, 11:25:26 PM
THIRD BIRTHDAY COMING TO PSP AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

CUM TO ME AYA!!!!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 02, 2008, 12:20:07 AM
Fuck you Square, now I may have a reason to get a PSP.  :'(
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: drohne on August 02, 2008, 12:24:22 AM
Quote
Before getting into the details of his latest creation, Tsuchida gave some insight into his previous work with the Final Fantasy series. Back at the start of Final Fantasy X's development, he was told that he could do whatever he pleased with the game's battle system. He ended up asking if he could do away entirely with the ATB (Active Time Battle) system for which the Final Fantasy series is known. This caused an emergency meeting within Square. The result was that Tsuchida wasn't allowed to completely do away with the ATB system, resulting in that game's CTB (Count Time Battle) system.

being a japanese game designer sounds awesome :-\
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 02, 2008, 01:05:08 AM
yes it does :(
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Crushed on August 02, 2008, 01:16:22 AM
Quote
Before getting into the details of his latest creation, Tsuchida gave some insight into his previous work with the Final Fantasy series. Back at the start of Final Fantasy X's development, he was told that he could do whatever he pleased with the game's battle system. He ended up asking if he could do away entirely with the ATB (Active Time Battle) system for which the Final Fantasy series is known. This caused an emergency meeting within Square. The result was that Tsuchida wasn't allowed to completely do away with the ATB system, resulting in that game's CTB (Count Time Battle) system.

being a japanese game designer sounds awesome :-\

wait so... he can do anything he pleased... as long as it was just freezing the action when the menu came up
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 02, 2008, 03:54:13 AM
???
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 02, 2008, 04:01:32 AM
Hmm... thanks for the info. How does Kefka look, by the way?

Also did you get to play Sigma Harmonics? I've been really curious as to how that plays.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: onsedatives on August 02, 2008, 04:21:42 AM
What a bunch of shit, they should do a tri-Ace even instead of a Nomura event.

 :piss Nomura :piss2

The only thing good announced was Agito PSP and it uses cards, when will they learn that cards are fucking gay?

Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: JustinP on August 02, 2008, 04:27:48 AM
At the end, they had this "secret" video from the dev team, showing in game prototype footage from XIII and Versus. I lol'd.
gameplay?  any comments?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Third on August 02, 2008, 05:52:37 AM
lol Agito FFXIII and PE3 cancelled for the mobile phones.

PSP :bow
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jansen on August 02, 2008, 06:12:14 AM
uh well from what duckroll was saying those games wouldn't have come out at all had they not decided to shift development to psp. which is a good thing for those of us that love superior handheld gaming.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: duckroll on August 02, 2008, 09:09:31 AM
Hey Jonnyram, Golbez and Exdeath are the shadows that appeared at the end of the Dissidia trailer from all the accounts I've read. They aren't actually "revealed" in the trailer like Kefka and Sephiroth were, but people are pretty sure they were represented at the end. You sure you didn't miss it?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: duckroll on August 02, 2008, 09:22:13 AM
Ah OK, that's a possibility, but I would say those two chars in particular would be a little hard to guess from shadows. I didn't see the shadows though - I just knew they weren't revealed in the same way as the others.

Well, these Japanese blogger fans are crazy. I saw one photo where a guy have like THREE tickets for the show from the 12PM screening all the way to 8PM. There was an Amano art poster way back in I think TGS or the Party last year which showed all 10 villains with Chaos in the background, so I think most of them are just going by what those designs look like. I wonder why S-E is avoiding Cloud on purpose, it's pretty much a given that he'll be the hero, unless they decide to do something really silly instead.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: duckroll on August 02, 2008, 10:02:32 AM
Could be Zack though, couldn't it?

It could, but that would be very strange. Zack isn't really in FFVII, and they seem to be big on using the root game of each title. Even for FF3, they went with Onion Knight instead of the characters created for the remake. We'll see, it's definitely odd that it's not revealed along with Sephiroth.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: abrader on August 02, 2008, 10:26:14 AM
too many RPG's IMO.

Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 02, 2008, 10:51:26 AM
RPGS?!!?!?!?!?!? FROM SQUARE-ENIX?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  OMG WHAT HOW WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 02, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
A Zero Shift like thing in Versus 13 has me excited.  The moments when you get that in ZoE2 are amazing.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: maxy on August 02, 2008, 02:13:38 PM
So was there any FF13 battle footage shown or maybe transition to battle scenery?From GameInformer interview it seems that the battles will take place in different scenery.

Quote
Q: In Monday’s Q&A you differentiated Final Fantasy XIII’s battle system from XII by saying that it is flashier. Can you elaborate on that a bit more, and explain how you want the combat system to feel for the player?

A: As mentioned during the conference, in Final Fantasy XII the battles are seamless, meaning the monsters are actually on the field, and you run into them to go into battle, and in FFX we used the random encounter, and you would jump into a battle scene when the party ran into a monster. So for XIII, we tried to take the best of both systems. The battlefield will have monsters visible, that you can dodge, but the battle scenery will change to a specific scene for the battle. There will be a good transition between the field and the interactive battle scene. That is what you can expect from XIII.

Q: In the trailer we see the images of Lighting jumping around during battle. Can you talk about how those types of mechanics are going to translate into play? How that kinetic feeling is going to be at the players control?

A: As mentioned earlier, when comparing the game to Versus XIII, this won’t be a completely action based game. So in that sense you won’t have complete control over the character when they are jumping around and such. The basic system here is the command system, but it will be an evolved version of that command system, so we are going to try to add movement as you see in the trailer, and try to create an enhanced version, even though it is command, so that it has action to it.

http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200807/N08.0723.1234.16906.htm?Page=1
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 02, 2008, 05:04:41 PM
lol Agito FFXIII and PE3 cancelled for the mobile phones.

PSP :bow

I'm fairly sure they're still coming to mobile phones, they're just coming to PSP as well now.

edit: On second thought, a lot of people seem to be talking about how the cell phone versions no longer exist at all. Is there any truth to this?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Bocsius on August 02, 2008, 05:06:17 PM
What's the point in having XIII Versus be PS3 exclusive again?

Oh well.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 02, 2008, 06:54:30 PM
What's the point in having XIII Versus be PS3 exclusive again?

Oh well.

A reason for people to be interested in buying a PS3?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: demi on August 02, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
What's the point in having XIII Versus be PS3 exclusive again?

Oh well.

A reason for people to pretend to be interested in buying a PS3?

FIXED

GOTCHA
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 02, 2008, 07:22:26 PM
What's the point in having XIII Versus be PS3 exclusive again?

Oh well.

Honor.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Rman on August 02, 2008, 08:38:36 PM
Has anyone else lost interest in square too?  Not even their conferences and announcements do anything for me anymore.  FF this, DraQue that, and now their whoring KH.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 02, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
You're not alone, I don't care either.

Give me an FF5 DS remake and I can put them behind me forever.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: BlueTsunami on August 02, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
Has anyone else lost interest in square too?  Not even their conferences and announcements do anything for me anymore.  FF this, DraQue that, and now their whoring KH.

Yeah, this is why tri-Ace = :bow
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Candyflip on August 02, 2008, 09:58:07 PM
You're not alone, I don't care either.

Give me an FF6 DS remake and I can put them behind me forever.
I agree
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 02, 2008, 10:06:24 PM
FF6 already has whoamg graphics, unless it was a straight port like CT it'd be a downgrade.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Jabberwocky on August 02, 2008, 10:32:23 PM
There's clearly not going to be a FFV remake this year, so if SE does one, then I can see them releasing FFV late next year. By 2010 even Nintendo will have to realize that the DS is becoming seriously outdated (tech wise - what with all these new, powerful systems/portables coming out) and they'll have to release another system - perhaps SE will do FFVI for the DS2?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Pharmacy on August 03, 2008, 06:41:24 AM
my prediction about ffxiii was the other way round, i thought versus would go multiplatform
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 03, 2008, 01:09:37 PM
I may have to get a PSP after the news. Damn you Sony!  :-*
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 04, 2008, 09:03:03 AM
So the FFXIII demo on the AC blu-ray is SE swing back to Sony's favor?

I was thinking the same thing. For those of you who didn't have a reason to stop listening to 1up Yours, there you go.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: CurseoftheGods on August 04, 2008, 09:32:12 AM
So the FFXIII demo on the AC blu-ray is SE swing back to Sony's favor?

uhhhhh, ok...

Shane is pathetic. :rofl
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: JustinP on August 04, 2008, 10:12:48 AM
So the FFXIII demo on the AC blu-ray is SE swing back to Sony's favor?

uhhhhh, ok...
shane said it would swing the pendulum back to sony "for good or ill."  which was true--the conference was a lot more about sony.

(http://upload.dfyb.net/uploaded/bore.gif)
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
So the FFXIII demo on the AC blu-ray is SE swing back to Sony's favor?

uhhhhh, ok...

To be fair, Sony does make the PSP as well.  So PE3 and that other A something FF13 game are now both on PSP.  That is something at least.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 11:09:51 AM
So who's gonna import that FF7AC blu ray just for that demo?

I am.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 11:12:37 AM
Maybe.  The import blu-ray is still in English, right?

I don't know actually.  Advent Children is really bad.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 11:22:32 AM
I dled AC when it first came out in Japan. Said I'd never buy it. But this is coming with a demo, so I'm buying it for the demo, not the movie. I always play FF demos. I played FF8 and 10's demos over and over and over. FF10's demo was one of the best demos ever.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 11:27:22 AM
I played the FF10 demo a bunch, but I never payed for that.  I just got it for free with my OPM subscription.  The idea of paying for a demo (I do own GT5p though! har har har) is a bit much.  I am hoping that it makes its way onto PSN soon after.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 11:34:21 AM
I would pay for a demo.

I bought Dragon Quest VIII for Dragon Quest VIII, but it coming with a demo of FFXII made it even sweeter.

FF games are the only games I buy demos for. I bought the Underground demo disc back when it came out with FFX. I got Musashiden when it came out for FFVIII's demo, AND the OPM that came with FFVIII's demo.

I'm such a Final Fantasy slut.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 11:38:18 AM
Maybe.  The import blu-ray is still in English, right?

I don't know actually.  Advent Children is really bad.

Advent Children > Spirits Within by a large margin, but it is still pure fan-service. I enjoy it for the visuals and the insanely good soundtrack.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
I got that Underground disc. It rocked. Had SSX Tricky on it too!

FFX is one of the best ps2 rpgs imo.

I love Final Fantasy!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 11:42:18 AM
I got that Underground disc. It rocked. Had SSX Tricky on it too!

FFX is one of the best ps2 rpgs imo.

I love Final Fantasy!

It was the game that made me hate JRPGS.

The 3rd time I had to fight... whatever the fuck his name is... the last boss, I gave up. I hated all of the characters, except the guy with the sunglasses.

Seymour is not the final boss.

FFX rocks, haters suck;etc.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 04, 2008, 11:50:24 AM
ffx sucked.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
FFX had a great battle system, if they took that battle system, put it in 12, and made the story a bit better, FF12 woulda been FF of the ever.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 04, 2008, 11:59:11 AM
ffx-2 battle system is better.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 12:00:58 PM
haha no
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 04, 2008, 12:03:07 PM
reported.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 12:13:30 PM
haha no

it is though.

FFX-2 has the best gameplay in the series.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 12:15:08 PM
Advent Children > Spirits Within by a large margin, but it is still pure fan-service. I enjoy it for the visuals and the insanely good soundtrack.

I don't even remember what Spirits Within was about anymore.  Advent Children had some good fight scenes, and a lot of it was really cheesy, and I enjoyed parts of it, but I don't know if it is worth importing on blu-ray.  The movie as a whole was stupid.  Maybe the extra content that is being added makes it less bad.

And FFX-2 did have a really good battle system, but not the best in the series or anything.  I still wasn't a big fan of either X or X-2 because of the lame characters, story, and settings.  Yuna is such a horrible character and I wanted to vomit every time she was in a cutscene.  It didn't help that I had this feeling with every character except Jecht, Auron, and Wakka.  I'm sure I am forgetting one or two people.  Blitzball was also pretty fun! I still don't get the hate for it.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 12:25:46 PM
If FFX-2 didn't have the best battle system in the series, what does? ATB before FFX-2 isn't nearly as good and FFXII's battle system sucks. FFI-III's turn based fights aren't nearly as interesting as FFX-2 ATB either!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Probably FFX.  And FFXII is different.  I don't exactly consider it worse or better since it isn't trying to to copy what was set before it.  I enjoyed it for what it was.  FFV is another one of my favorite FF battle systems.

And arguing about Battle Systems is always funny because I still think the pinnacle of RPG battle systems was in 2000 with Grandia 2.  No battle system since has been more enjoyable than that.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MCD on August 04, 2008, 12:46:47 PM
grandia x battle system is even better.

too bad all i can remember from that game is dungeon crawling, hate those.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: JustinP on August 04, 2008, 12:49:01 PM
as someone who doesn't really play many final fantasy games, i enjoyed advent children.  had a lot of nice action and it was relentless with it's action--for me, it was like a predecessor to movies like Shoot'em Up and Wanted. 
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 12:50:55 PM
Advent Children > Spirits Within by a large margin, but it is still pure fan-service. I enjoy it for the visuals and the insanely good soundtrack.

I don't even remember what Spirits Within was about anymore.  Advent Children had some good fight scenes, and a lot of it was really cheesy, and I enjoyed parts of it, but I don't know if it is worth importing on blu-ray.  The movie as a whole was stupid.  Maybe the extra content that is being added makes it less bad.

And FFX-2 did have a really good battle system, but not the best in the series or anything.  I still wasn't a big fan of either X or X-2 because of the lame characters, story, and settings.  Yuna is such a horrible character and I wanted to vomit every time she was in a cutscene.  It didn't help that I had this feeling with every character except Jecht, Auron, and Wakka.  I'm sure I am forgetting one or two people.  Blitzball was also pretty fun! I still don't get the hate for it.

Oh, its import only? Not sure I liked it THAT much.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 12:51:27 PM
Probably FFX.  And FFXII is different.  I don't exactly consider it worse or better since it isn't trying to to copy what was set before it.  I enjoyed it for what it was.  FFV is another one of my favorite FF battle systems.

And arguing about Battle Systems is always funny because I still think the pinnacle of RPG battle systems was in 2000 with Grandia 2.  No battle system since has been more enjoyable than that.

Valkyrie Profile 2 sez HALLO
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Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 12:54:50 PM
VP2 and other games were very enjoyable, but still nothing has trumped Grandia 2.  Yeah, Grandia Xtreme was very good, maybe in some ways better than Grandia 2, but it was still the same battle system.  It wasn't a big enough leap to where I consider it the pinnacle or anything. 
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Post by: Himu on August 04, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
I think Grandia's battle system is overrated. People say it's still the king when I think games like the ps2 SMT's, VP2, and Dragon Quarter kick any Grandia's ass.

Oh well.
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Post by: Beezy on August 04, 2008, 01:04:19 PM
I've played VP2 (not fully) and Grandia 3. Grandia 3's battle system is better.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:08:48 PM
Grandia 2 is uhhh.

VP2 battle system is badass. Sphere system is ultimate ownage. You can totally manipulate shit to get the upper hand in everything you do.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:29:06 PM
VP2 so good, so very very good.
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Post by: demi on August 04, 2008, 01:30:50 PM
the best PS2 rpg is Okage Shadow King
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 04, 2008, 01:31:50 PM
grandia 2 was a step back -- it was too fuckin' easy. grandia xtreme was the best grandia system by far.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:33:29 PM
Demi: What happened to SH?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: demi on August 04, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
It took a back seat to Ephermeral Fantasia
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:39:54 PM
Understandable
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 04, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
grandia 2 was a step back -- it was too fuckin' easy. grandia xtreme was the best grandia system by far.

I thought Grandia 3's battle system was even better than Xtreme. Too bad the game itself was shit.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:54:48 PM
It got so boring and his mom looked like his sister which weirded me out total
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Post by: siamesedreamer on August 04, 2008, 01:56:26 PM
Quote
- FFXIII demo is bundled with Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete (Blu-ray)

This was the "game changer" Shane Buttenpukin was talking about?
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 04, 2008, 01:57:16 PM
It got so boring and his mom looked like his sister which weirded me out total

Yeah, that whole mom/sister thing was weird.

I actually played all the way to the final boss in Grandia 3 and then stopped.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 01:58:28 PM
I got to some crystal world and got either bored/mad at the enemies there. I forget.
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Post by: cool breeze on August 04, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
I thought Grandia 3's battle system was even better than Xtreme. Too bad the game itself was shit.

Grandia 3 had some cool aspects that it added, but yeah, the game was bad.  I remembering so excited for it, but it got messed up big time.  Grandia 2 or Xtreme should just be ported to the PSP and that will make me happy.
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Post by: MCD on August 04, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
i got that dancer character and quit.

booooring game.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 03:15:54 PM
Xtreme on PSP would be awesome
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 04, 2008, 03:52:37 PM
FFX had a great battle system, if they took that battle system, put it in 12, and made the story a bit better, FF12 woulda been FF of the ever.

Omg yes yes yes :bow2
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Post by: tiesto on August 04, 2008, 06:46:58 PM
FFX had a great battle system, if they took that battle system, put it in 12, and made the story a bit better, FF12 woulda been FF of the ever.

Omg yes yes yes :bow2

Yeah, and redid the loot system so it wasn't random and you didn't have to worry about missing the Zodiac Spear.
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 04, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
FFXII-2!
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: demi on August 04, 2008, 07:20:07 PM
That's already out as Revenant Wings
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 06, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
Vagrant Story 2 is coming, believe
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Post by: Jabberwocky on August 06, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
k
Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 06, 2008, 10:36:50 PM
I think I got here from a search or something, didn't realize it was old

Title: Re: Square Enix DKΣ3713 conference
Post by: muckson on August 06, 2008, 11:19:44 PM
Vagrant Story 2 is coming, believe
don't fuck with my heart like this.