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Title: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: TVC15 on August 06, 2008, 03:15:01 PM
We all know that every effective antidepressant has at least one worrisome side effect, so I do not particularly see why painkillers cannot be prescribed for the purpose of helping with depression.  As an example, the pain medication I am currently taking does not even effectively handle the pain, but what it does do is take away the impulse to go and buy a gun and shoot myself in a head.  In essence, in my case, the painkiller isn't killing pain, but making life worth living while I am experiencing severe pain.

So, really, why not?  Even if only for short term depression (Sorry, sir, your mom just died, have some Vicodin) since tolerance is an issue.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: BobbyRobby on August 06, 2008, 03:49:36 PM
i think benzoates would be better, because like you said, tolerance is an issue.  when you're in a state of self pity, it's very easy to rationalize having just one more dose.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: drew on August 06, 2008, 04:21:40 PM
Vicodin should be OTC, that shit is so good.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Powerslave on August 06, 2008, 04:27:05 PM
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Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 06, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
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Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Candyflip on August 06, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
When tolerance starts becoming an issue is when you change your method of ingestion
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 06, 2008, 09:57:55 PM
Wow, Keith.  :-\

There have been studies that tried to suggest otherwise, but antidepressants typically aren't addictive like narcotics and opiates.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Candyflip on August 06, 2008, 10:05:21 PM
Can't benzos be fairly addictive? I've heard horrible stories about withdrawals, too..
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: BobbyRobby on August 06, 2008, 10:40:05 PM
Can't benzos be fairly addictive? I've heard horrible stories about withdrawals, too..

I think it's very difficult to become addicted, but it does have terrible withdrawal effects, like alcohol.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Fragamemnon on August 06, 2008, 10:56:17 PM
There have been studies that tried to suggest otherwise, but antidepressants typically aren't addictive like narcotics and opiates.

When I weaned myself off of the anti-anxiety/depression meds I was on in college during a week off, it was fucking BRUTAL. All I could do was literally sleep and wake every once and awhile and play heroes of might and magic III.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: TVC15 on August 06, 2008, 11:19:20 PM
Wow, Keith.  :-\

There have been studies that tried to suggest otherwise, but antidepressants typically aren't addictive like narcotics and opiates.


I think most people would, say, rather risk becoming a drug addict (even though I think being functional only via drugs, like many with antidepressants, is just as bad) than risk, well, not being able to cum.

 Opiods as antidepressants: 1,  antidepressants as antidepressants: 0
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: TVC15 on August 06, 2008, 11:23:51 PM
When I got myself off antidepressants, both times, I just started drinking and doing more drugs a lot.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: FatalT on August 07, 2008, 12:00:07 AM
I wish I could be hooked up to an IV every time I went to sleep. Man that was an enjoyable experience. Liquid goodness surging through my veins. Vision getting blurred and delayed. Out like a light.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: TVC15 on August 07, 2008, 12:38:15 AM
Also, while sex problems might only be a problem with a subset of people taking antidepressants, there is one universally negative side effect:  you can't drink while taking them.  What kind of garbage is that?  Antidepressants in general are no good at their intended purpose.

Another benefit of opiod as antidepressant is that they work immediately.  No waiting 1+ weeks for the drugs to take effect.  This is why I think they are suited to short term, emergency antidepressants.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: BobbyRobby on August 07, 2008, 01:57:00 AM
what is the reason they give that you can't drink on antidepressants?  i had a friend who always would, but it seemed like it'd make him twice as miserable than he had been before starting them.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: TVC15 on August 07, 2008, 02:16:20 AM
what is the reason they give that you can't drink on antidepressants?  i had a friend who always would, but it seemed like it'd make him twice as miserable than he had been before starting them.

On most of the popular ones, if you drink, it negates the effects of the antidepressants, so every time you drink, you have to wait 1-2 weeks before they start working again.  If you drink while you take antidepressants, you are basically wasting whatever money you are spending on them.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: Eric P on August 07, 2008, 07:47:04 AM
really?

whoops

Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: lordmaji on August 07, 2008, 08:28:42 AM
The problem w/ Pk's is when you come down from the high, you tend to be either pissy, depressed, or both (not always, but after taking it for awhile this does eventually happen). I've tried to avoid them for awhile now also. Too much bullshit going on in my life right now and coming down from a percocet buzz tends to make things worse, plus it's been turning me into a complete dick. But, the buzz is great and makes the day a hell of a lot more fun. A buzz right now would be fun. :P So not to sound self righteous, if someone gave me one or some, i'd take it. fuck it. (fucking addicts)

Symbiax is expensive as all hell, and it turns you into a complete zombie (no sex drive, incoherent conversations, over sleeping, everything is more like a dream). I stopped taking that shit years ago. ugh. I still have a full bottle of it floating around some place. fuck that stuff.

The only thing that I've found to help w/ depression so far is a xanax before bed. Only take it when you feel down and out, or are having really bad anxiety. Plus the shit will knock you out. My mom is addicted to these, so it's another one of those be careful type deals.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: lordmaji on August 07, 2008, 09:33:58 AM
More than antidepressents, these painkillers REALLY help reduce my anxiety and make me more outgoing and confident when communicating with other people.  They help a ton just before a presentation in class or during meetings.  Outside of their addictive nature and the diminishing returns, they're almost the perfect drug. 

co-sign. Presentations tend to be a breeze when you're floating on a good pk buzz.
Title: Re: No, seriously, why can't they prescribe painkillers as antidepressants?
Post by: muckhole on August 07, 2008, 09:47:20 AM
My friend complained night and day that his brain was shaking, and he was sleeping like 2 hours a day and vomiting constantly.

They call it "the shocks". Pretty strange feeling.

On most of the popular ones, if you drink, it negates the effects of the antidepressants, so every time you drink, you have to wait 1-2 weeks before they start working again.  If you drink while you take antidepressants, you are basically wasting whatever money you are spending on them.

Hoo boy.